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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:07:00 -
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Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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KaoticKrusader
0uter.Heaven
71
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord
I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that.
Regards But I like holding hands it makes me feel warm inside.
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KaoticKrusader
0uter.Heaven
71
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:12:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?.
Just fish and rice Hi Tech o/ |
SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:13:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Fried Chicken, mmmm... KFC <3
I actually eat a lot of Taco Bell / Chinese these days. |
Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2168
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:18:00 -
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KaoticKrusader wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:What did you expect when the best players in the game dont PLAY the game but are gathering round a camp fire holding hands avd singing combaya my lord
I have no personal beef against any in DNS but you guys don't want good games and good fights. The fact that you guys buy any one of that possesses any remote threat kind of prowes that.
Regards But I like holding hands it makes me feel warm inside. I can make you feel warm inside .......... By complimenting you on a job well done I haven't seen you in a long time o/
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2169
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:21:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Fried Chicken, mmmm... KFC <3 I actually eat a lot of Taco Bell / Chinese these days. Never had KFC.. But Kowloons is an amazing Chinese restaurant, in Oregon anyways. And I might eat more than my share of tacos...
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:22:00 -
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I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side?
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3117
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:25:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Fried Chicken, mmmm... KFC <3 I actually eat a lot of Taco Bell / Chinese these days.
I happen to stereotypically drink a sht load of tea but my teeth are fine. Tally ho old chap.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:26:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Again dont have any beef against any one on DNS in fact I play with a bunch of them on regular basis every day.
You have your opinion and you are in your own right to have that. However I don't agree to one word you are saying/stating If you guys want epic fights and and a good game it's hippo critical to do what DNS is doing , al you want is a no risk game saying anything else is pathetic.
I have ran across you guys qsinking in FW as a example.
16 guys full proto/ads/tanks you name it against 16 randoms. Again nothing wrong with it but I lack to c the fun game in that.
Before you go al bonkers I actually don't have a problem that you own everything you are that good period, however your perception about a fun game is some what flawed in my mind.
Regards
Did me saying that DNS has epic fights in FW come off wrong? Did my comment saying nothings changed from letting you guys PC or fighting in FW not hit home on my point? You weren't giving epic fights. They were always between FA/AE/ERA. And now we sync against each other in FW which opens up several maps and modes for us to play against each other in organized manners. This offers us much more variety then the same 3 maps and game mode vs the same people over and over again... for 6 months. And best part? No annoying ass timers. And on a side note - I find it hard to swallow comments from people representing corps who can't even win mid-tier games. Don't talk about fights when your corp wouldn't ever field you if they did have land, instead buys ringers. - Man I keep coming off jerky, but I am tired of these propagandous statements. If WTF or OH were to say we're just being pussies and not wanted good fights I'd take it, they fight hard, so when they talk mad crap bout DNS on the forums all I can really do smile out of respect. But the rest of you do not hold any position to judge us.
I hadn't read this one yet when I posted my comment.
This pretty much wraps up why Dust will never be able to get where we want it to go. You guys have ALL the talent outside of WTF and OH and you **** all over us for not being able to compete. **** YOU.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2169
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:26:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:26:00 -
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KaoticKrusader wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Do you eat lots of fried chicken and grits?. Just fish and rice Hi Tech o/
o7.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:30:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs
There's no doubt. What do you think we want? The only avenue we have to do that is to attack one of you guys. Then we get our faces raped off and lose a couple more dudes to you.
It's ****** up. Then to rub noses in it. I guess good luck. I hope it's fun.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
2172
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:37:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Idk bout anyone else but I just expect fights.. Train the guys in our corp. get some chemistry going. Way more fun than pubs There's no doubt. What do you think we want? The only avenue we have to do that is to attack one of you guys. Then we get our faces raped off and lose a couple more dudes to you. It's ****** up. Then to rub noses in it. I guess good luck. I hope it's fun. You're taking it out on the wrong group.. We're Angels. Well the rest are I'm a god.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1545
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:38:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:Sota, listen to the podcast. Don't do it because its informative, do it because it's so much fun to share the schadenfreude about dns 'join my alliance or else' black I listened to it. I was as upset as the rest of you. All of us in the same alliance or we can't participate? I might already be in DNS - but I was not at all cool with forcing people to leave there respective homes in order to compete or participate. Wasn't cool at all with him thinking he knows what 'vets' think or want, either. He seems to think DNS is 90% of the vet community - couldn't be further from the truth. DNS is 90% of the tryhards of the community, the actual vets are people of all sorts, many of whom don't and haven't ever given a **** about PC. But I've had more communication with him since - he's not at all what he appears to be on the show.
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.04.23 16:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Do you seriously believe this non-sense? How many times did you guys pay me off to hold your crap for you? If you wanted fights why didn't you concentrate spending your ISK getting talent instead of paying us off to win for you? It seems way too convenient for you guys to run your mouths off about this when you did nothing to prepare yourselves to compete.
I mean no offense, but your comments... aren't justified. Please, justify them to me so I can better comprehend your point of view, because it seems VERY sketchy right now. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:06:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Do you seriously believe this non-sense? How many times did you guys pay me off to hold your crap for you? If you wanted fights why didn't you concentrate spending your ISK getting talent instead of paying us off to win for you? It seems way too convenient for you guys to run your mouths off about this when you did nothing to prepare yourselves to compete. I mean no offense, but your comments... aren't justified. Please, justify them to me so I can better comprehend your point of view, because it seems VERY sketchy right now.
So when all the talent that was in Eon, ANON, Pro Hic, Seraphim, and all the others who abandoned PC go to the corps that were better than them or kicked their ass and caused them to disband it's not going to cause a pretty significant barrier to compete for other teams?
Back when there was a larger number of corps participating in PC we fielded our own teams. We even had marginal success. But the pool of participants kept shrinking. It got to the point that it didn't matter if it was corp A vs corp B, you were going to see the same A list names from ringing groups. That's when we started hiring ringers and ultimately when we started locking. Should we have kept fighting instead of locking? Perhaps, but as history shows that probably wouldn't have turned out well. People don't handle losing well in this game, you should know that because most of the talent that is in your alliance is there after their original corp got destroyed by AE or TP.
Take Molon Labe out of it. Let's discuss some other names of corps who stuck out despite the odds. Name some names of corps who stuck it out. It'll be a short list.
Where do you see the competition coming from? How do you propose those corps prepare?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:08:00 -
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And for the record I am 90% certain that Sota has NEVER been hired by Molon Labe. And to be honest there are only a handful of times we've ever hired ringers. We did use alliance people, but if we are going to get **** on for that then take a look in the mirror.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1431
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:19:00 -
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I think what Sota is trying to say is that if we wanted to recruit some of the top talented players in the game, we should have payed for them. If I am not mistaken, a good number of the top players get paid handsomely for participating and doing well in PC. Some of the better corps paid their players weekly salaries, or several million isk per PC battle.
Perhaps ML should have had a tax, and paid for the talent... tho that wasn't really our "thing" the result is staying in the mid tier. It is what it is. But in theory, paying for ringers outside of alliance/corp, or paying top tier players to join the corp and play PC, is kinda the same ****. Its just the tags ... Nothing will keep a greed driven player in the corp if we aren't getting the W's, and lets face it the people with the strongest thumbs will want to be paid to play. |
SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:19:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I really have a hard time understanding how it's the community's fault for not providing fights when for 2 years 90% of the best players have slowly all ended up in a few corps.
My corp has taken a big hit since this all took place and I'm not so sure I blame some of the guys who have left. You either have to speak French or join OH/IH to have a chance. I was a founding member of Molon Labe and I even left for a couple of days before feeling the need to go back home.
Honestly, it's like the MLB all star team going on an ass kicking tour of AAA farm teams and calling them out for not being able to compete. I can't wrap my head around it. I know there is some trolling involved, but it appears that many inside DNS believe that by studying a map a bit more we'll be able to compete.
Do people inside DNS honestly believe that any form of competitive game play in Dust is possible with such a concentration of talent on one side? Do you seriously believe this non-sense? How many times did you guys pay me off to hold your crap for you? If you wanted fights why didn't you concentrate spending your ISK getting talent instead of paying us off to win for you? It seems way too convenient for you guys to run your mouths off about this when you did nothing to prepare yourselves to compete. I mean no offense, but your comments... aren't justified. Please, justify them to me so I can better comprehend your point of view, because it seems VERY sketchy right now. So when all the talent that was in Eon, ANON, Pro Hic, Seraphim, and all the others who abandoned PC go to the corps that were better than them or kicked their ass and caused them to disband it's not going to cause a pretty significant barrier to compete for other teams? Back when there was a larger number of corps participating in PC we fielded our own teams. We even had marginal success. But the pool of participants kept shrinking. It got to the point that it didn't matter if it was corp A vs corp B, you were going to see the same A list names from ringing groups. That's when we started hiring ringers and ultimately when we started locking. Should we have kept fighting instead of locking? Perhaps, but as history shows that probably wouldn't have turned out well. People don't handle losing well in this game, you should know that because most of the talent that is in your alliance is there after their original corp got destroyed by AE or TP. Take Molon Labe out of it. Let's discuss some other names of corps who stuck out despite the odds. Name some names of corps who stuck it out. It'll be a short list. Where do you see the competition coming from? How do you propose those corps prepare? The barrier you are talking about is US using our EARNED ISK to get more talent to increase what timers we can take and the flexibility of our teams. We are constantly growing and preparing the next war, even now when there's no one to fight. That is what it means to be a PC corp. And that is what you have failed to understand and prepare for yourself. Complaining because we did exactly as I'm telling you you should of done instead of hiring us out is absurd.
And let's not take ML out of this conversation - as it's the perfect corp that exemplifies why just being in PC doesn't make you a PC corp. All forum posts, no victories in game. I do not understand where you guys get off complaining about DNS - have you read some of the ML posts in GD? You guys seriously **** me off sometimes, calling DNS scum for blueing up and not wanting fights - when you never fought in the first place and tried to create your own super-alliance in the past??
Now let's take a look at this list you want me to see that's 'small' - OH, PX1, ToP, WTF, Ghosts of Dawn, MiB, and surprisingly we get hit by other corps I've never heard of too. Guess what they're doing? Preparing for the future. As a good PC corp should. And instead of crying about the blue donut - they're trolling us over there victories. They're not hiring OH and WTF each game so there clone packs stand a chance - these are full corp/alliance teams learning and asking questions in mail. In which a lot of us in NF are more then happy to answer to help that corp grow.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1431
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:24:00 -
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Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well. |
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:26:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Oh and by the way, trying to have a conversation with this fagg0t with your current "tags" is not going to go well. If you can't speak with logic and only tears and biased opinion then there's no need to continue this anyways. Your post highlights ML never wanted to be real competition to begin with - so why the tears Thor????? |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1431
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:27:00 -
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:27:00 -
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What war and with who? Do you have imaginary friends in some parallel server?
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:32:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:What war and with who? Do you have imaginary friends in some parallel server?
... you need to re-read what I wrote. Try not to spill your stupidity so openly in your next post, please.
SoTasLost Property wrote: We are constantly growing and preparing the next war, even now when there's no one to fight. That is what it means to be a PC corp.
If you want to continue this, I don't mind. I might be looking like a jerk picking on your cryhards, but you're not even bothering to try to think. It's just biased tears of, "waaaah, it's too hard to try now." I can't feel sympathy right now for such responses and approaches to conversation. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:32:00 -
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Sota, it's not about tears. It's about reality. The fact that you are justifying blueing up ALL of the capable corps in PC outside of WTF (who had taken off what 8 months?) and OH and shitting all over the rest of Dust is enough in my book.
There is no reason to continue talking to you. You are delusional.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3480
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:37:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:What war and with who? Do you have imaginary friends in some parallel server?
... you need to re-read what I wrote. Try not to spill your stupidity so openly in your next post, please. SoTasLost Property wrote: We are constantly growing and preparing the next war, even now when there's no one to fight. That is what it means to be a PC corp.
If you want to continue this, I don't mind. I might be looking like a jerk picking on your cryhards, but you're not even bothering to try to think. It's just biased tears of, "waaaah, it's too hard to try now." I can't feel sympathy right now for such responses and approaches to conversation.
I don't want sympathy. It's just reality dude. You can keep trying to insult me but it doesn't change the reality of this situation. I've said before that I don't blame people for joining DNS given the current situation, but the trash talking that goes along with it is hard to stomach. Just enjoy your ISK dude. But you don't have to trash the other 99% of Dust.
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Moorian Flav
210
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:37:00 -
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Did you miss out on the KEQQ from DNS, Sota. Even the (in)famous Spero got involved: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155862 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155850 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155866&p=1 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155849&p=1 Anyway, how DNS decided to handle this (through multiple accusing threads) wasn't the best for DNS' rep. It's funny how fast this discussion died once KEQ lost their district.
I don't troll; I tell the truth.
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:38:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Sota, it's not about tears. It's about reality. The fact that you are justifying blueing up ALL of the capable corps in PC outside of WTF (who had taken off what 8 months?) and OH and shitting all over the rest of Dust is enough in my book.
There is no reason to continue talking to you. You are delusional. You're not ever going to stop with the propaganda, are you? I guess when you can't win in game that's the only tool left for you.
Please, link me where I justified bluing up the competition.
Reality is - your here crying while others are out working and preparing. How is that healthier for the community?? How is that even helping YOUR corp?
Get off the forums and get in game and start doing something. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1431
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:39:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote: I can't feel sympathy right now.
In your time playing this game, have you ever been in either of our shoes? Deciding not to hop on the d1ck of the winning team because it is easy and profitable? Sticking with a corp despite constant losses showing up to fight knowing the odds are stacked against you? Training newer players... Taking losses after losses and keep coming back for more.. just to see your allies ditch you... and the strongest of your enemies blueing up nstead of duking it out with eachother like true competition should be? All in the name of "showing CCP how ****** up their game is" or whatever?...
If the answer is no (and this is a rhetorical question, don't feel obligated to answer) then that is why you don't have sympathy for situation. And we don't blame you... but don't be surprised when we spit at you fagg0ts. Yes you, everyone who is like you in this f ucked up community, and CCP, f uck all of ya's.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2022
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Posted - 2014.04.23 17:42:00 -
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[open door]
"What's happening here?!"
[takes a few steps back -closes door carefully and leave]
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity, DeadlyAztec11 and Sinboto Simmons.
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