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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3496
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Posted - 2014.04.24 15:43:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:bigolenuts wrote:And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question.
What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone?
Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work.
The participation levels of corps that have participated in PC in the last few months are still too low for anything to really change. In other words it would still just be you guys fighting no matter what.
You say I'm whining, but the facts of the matter are that it really doesn't matter all that much if you guys are aligned or if you guys are mercs. There just isn't enough interest from the playerbase. And as I've also said multiple times it's ridiculous to ask for the elite players of the game to show restraint. This is CCP's fault. Releasing PC without a low risk form of team deploy killed any chance of PC being successful.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3496
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Posted - 2014.04.24 15:45:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well.
And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy.
Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up.
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2014.04.24 15:57:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well.
And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up.
If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel.
HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in.
Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3502
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:40:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well.
And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O
Shoot me a message in game, I don't know if you've got zeros or whatever instead of o's in your name and you are always banned.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
2208
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:31:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:bigolenuts wrote:And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question.
What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone?
Anyone answer it. How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work. Then we are back to fighting each other every night like before while others reap the bigger rewards. Doesn't matter to me but I prefer to make ISK. It won't come easy forever.
I don't make isk either way soo
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2014.04.24 17:45:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well.
And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O Shoot me a message in game, I don't know if you've got zeros or whatever instead of o's in your name and you are always banned.
sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things. |
Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
2209
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Posted - 2014.04.24 18:28:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:The answer is that there won't be any real fun as long as the situation stays the way it is. It won't be fun for anyone outside of the donut and I can only imagine it will get boring inside the donut as well.
And again, I'm not faulting individuals or even individual corps involved. But the proper perspective is necessary. So, boiled down, you just want to finger point and not offer a solution. Continue forward finger pointing guy. Dude, I've offered solutions all over the place. There is some meta involved in my posts for sure. If anything else in the hope that the other 99% of Dust starts to give a damn about the higher levels of Dust play. A good chunk of the playerbase doesn't even want to squad up. If this is truly your passion then we need to talk in game Thor. There is so much a group like you can do to bring people together to get stuff done. You could be working with Top Men, Necromongers, and all the other forces slowly building themselves up from the recent crapfest. You don't need to merge or join alliances - aid can be had in many ways, support and communication is as easy as setting up a channel. HvLP wants to help revitalize the communities will to live. We may still be our group looking out for ourselves in the end - but go look around the groups preparing for war - you'll notice I've already spoken to most, trying to help however I can. Sometimes the best help I can give is bringing the right two people together. And if corps are having a hard time standing on there own - then work together! The talent outside of DNS equals the ones inside here - if not more so!! Some of the recruits HvLP have been picking up that don't even have 10mil SP are just fantastic ******* players who will one day be smashing Regynum and my faces in. Especially this one tanker... we took him to PC and he went nearly 4k WP in his first ever match. :O Shoot me a message in game, I don't know if you've got zeros or whatever instead of o's in your name and you are always banned.
sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things.[/quote]
I'm game
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
939
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Posted - 2014.04.24 18:32:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:
sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things.
SoTa, Thor...
If you guys are serious about looking at ways to get all facets of the community to work towards unified ways to make the game better I would like to help.
It's hard to fight through the meta and "in game" slap fights for folks to see that many of the top tier PC corps genuinely want the game to get better and community to grow just like it's difficult for those guys to see everyone elses position and what they are trying to do to get better.
I'm all about competitive play, meta fun, and all that jazz.... however, at the core though we are all in the game togther and frankly we wouldn't be here if we didn't want (or at least hope) it to get better.
Shoot me a note; we can link up in-game or skype.
"Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
2714
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:49:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:
I'm game
A 4-way perhaps?
Hell get Jaysyn and Xel and we'd have a proper [Explicit] squad
How to Leave PC
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
94
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Posted - 2014.04.24 20:55:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:
sota pop, it's spelt how it looks. When I get on I'll throw ya msg and we'll hook up eventually, possibly with a few others so we can all talk together about what can be done with the current state of things. Mind you, I am only one guy myself, all I can do is try. But we can at least see where we can take things.
SoTa, Thor... If you guys are serious about looking at ways to get all facets of the community to work towards unified ways to make the game better I would like to help. It's hard to fight through the meta and "in game" slap fights for folks to see that many of the top tier PC corps genuinely want the game to get better and community to grow just like it's difficult for those guys to see everyone elses position and what they are trying to do to get better. I'm all about competitive play, meta fun, and all that jazz.... however, at the core though we are all in the game togther and frankly we wouldn't be here if we didn't want (or at least hope) it to get better. Shoot me a note; we can link up in-game or skype.
When I get on later I will shoot both of you a message, as well as a few other choice people. I think if we all had a sit down and discuss next possible moves we could start to see a sunset for once. |
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Everything Dies
Inner.Hell
680
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:21:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work.
In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good.
If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles.
Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players.
Just my two cents.
Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit.
Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
109
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:25:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work.
In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players. Just my two cents.
I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs?
And wish you didn't write the second :D |
noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1309
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:33:00 -
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enjoy we all need a smile
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick.
dem spandex yo
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B1ack ice
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
203
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:41:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:enjoy we all need a smile
*\o/* Thanks Noob! <3
I know I definitely needed to smile.... cuteness overload.
Have you seen "Singin' in the Rain"?
"If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose."
I'm not buying what you're selling.
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noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1313
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:46:00 -
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B1ack ice wrote:noob cavman wrote:enjoy we all need a smile *\o/* Thanks Noob! <3 I know I definitely needed to smile.... cuteness overload. Have you seen "Singing in the Rain"?
Indeed im a sucker for feel good films from time to time *\o/*
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick.
dem spandex yo
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
109
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:47:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:enjoy we all need a smile
... the heck did I just watch... it actually got pretty cool 1:30 in.... |
B1ack ice
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
204
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:50:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:B1ack ice wrote:noob cavman wrote:enjoy we all need a smile *\o/* Thanks Noob! <3 I know I definitely needed to smile.... cuteness overload. Have you seen "Singing in the Rain"? Indeed im a sucker for feel good films from time to time *\o/*
My Favorite part of the movie: Make Em' Laugh
"If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose."
I'm not buying what you're selling.
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
115
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:51:00 -
[168] - Quote
This actually really damn cute. But the ending - she looks lonely. :'( |
noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1314
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:52:00 -
[169] - Quote
Did you watch past the credits?
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick.
dem spandex yo
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
941
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:53:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:Everything Dies wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work.
In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players.Just my two cents. I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D
Ah, but the third paragraph is the trick isn't it?
That little game mechanic feeds a lot of the current problems and if deployment capacity or movement logisitcs mattered more it would change the environment overnight. You could still run a very brisk and profitable merc business but have a lot more folks able to participate in some form or fashion.
"Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
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B1ack ice
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
204
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Posted - 2014.04.24 21:55:00 -
[171] - Quote
noob cavman wrote:Did you watch past the credits?
Yeah Sota... did you watch past the credits?! 
"If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose."
I'm not buying what you're selling.
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
115
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:01:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:Everything Dies wrote:SoTasLost Property wrote:How about both AE and ERA/NF pull out of PC completely and go back to mercing? I must admit - it was way more fun back then. This empire business is both messy and work.
In my honest (and completely unworthy of discussing PC-related matters) opinion, the underlined part is what really doomed the current version of PC. You guys reached the point to where buying your services pretty much guaranteed a victory; naturally, such a setup automatically favored the older/richer corps that could afford you all as opposed to the smaller corps that were looking to make a name for themselves. The moment smaller corps could begin to mount any sort of threat to the older/big corps they could call mercs in and put the problem to bed for good. If PC is going to become anything more than what it currently is, there needs to be some sort of penalty for bringing in outside help--for example, a small loss of clones (in the actual battle) for each ringer brought in (with smaller penalties for bringing in alliance members) to promote the idea of corporations being self-sufficient. I also think that there should be some of limit placed on a player's ability to fight in PC match after PC match to reduce the ability of a corp to rely almost exclusively on their "A" team. It could be something like having a "travel time" that prevents you from fighting in one district and then immediately fighting in another; such a change could make strategy have a much more prominent role in battles as corps would have to decide where to divvy up their best talent if they're facing multiple battles. Last but not least, strength in numbers should actually mean something. A corporation of 2,000 mediocre players should pose an equal--if not greater--threat than a smaller corp of top-tier players.Just my two cents. I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs? And wish you didn't write the second :D Ah, but the third paragraph is the trick isn't it? That little game mechanic feeds a lot of the current problems and if deployment capacity or movement logisitcs mattered more it would change the environment overnight. You could still run a very brisk and profitable merc business but have a lot more folks able to participate in some form or fashion.
It would be to everyones benefit at this point if numbers could matter. It would mean you could field 4-5 games of your 300 guys yourself, and when tough and important games come, hire NF. There'd be a lot more readily available matches for the merc groups - and empires get to train themselves, grow, and enjoy PC.
At first, the vet groups feared such things. Skill > numbers!!!! But now we've hit the point that any change would move us into a positive direction. |
noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1315
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:02:00 -
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Also black yes I do love that part x)
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick.
dem spandex yo
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SoTasLost Property
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
115
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:08:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Also black yes I do love that part x)
Yes, I watched the credits and saw her brimming with happiness.
But she still gave such a sad, "Oh, right, life sucks." look at the end when the shoes stopped working - depressed you a little. :( |
noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
1316
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:10:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:noob cavman wrote:Also black yes I do love that part x) Yes, I watched the credits and saw her brimming with happiness. But she still gave such a sad, "Oh, right, life sucks." look at the end when the shoes stopped working - depressed you a little. :(
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick.
dem spandex yo
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B1ack ice
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
205
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:15:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:noob cavman wrote:Also black yes I do love that part x) Yes, I watched the credits and saw her brimming with happiness. But she still gave such a sad, "Oh, right, life sucks." look at the end when the shoes stopped working - depressed you a little. :(
Well, you know what they say...
There's no place like home.
Ruby slippers... damn you!
"If you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose."
I'm not buying what you're selling.
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The-Beard
182
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Posted - 2014.04.25 09:47:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:And Thor still doesn't answer my question. You answered "at it" but still dodged the question.
What would you like DNS to do so that the game is "fun" for everyone?
Anyone answer it.
Give us blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon. Doesn't really have to be in that order either.
Before you get tiny nuts all twisted and start whatever blah blah rant, you asked anyone to answer what we would like DNS to do for everyone. To be honest, I couldn't care less if it's DNS, CCP, ML, OH or anyone else that gives them to everyone... I just like getting blowjobs, back rubs, and bacon.
Question answered for you?
I laugh at DNS every time someone tells the community to "be competitive". Which corp in DNS is the most competitive? None. How can I say that? Easy, neither of you guys fight the best with something of value on the line. So, next question, which corp in DNS is the best PC corp? Unknown. Now, there will be a lot of talk back and forth about who is the best, but really how will one know if the best only fight each other in FW matches? Nothing of value is on the line. Isk you say? No, because their districts will just replace it.
The only real way to figure out who the best is, is to fight each other in PC, take over the district, and keep it. Then and only then will you find out which of the DNS corps is really the best. Also, by doing just that DNS will actually practice what they preach and "be competitive".
You want the community to "get good"? Sure, but it takes time and isk. Time we have, isk we don't. Unlike DNS, the community doesn't have billions of isk coming in every day to spend. So, unless DNS is going to start giving 10's of millions of isk to the community so that they can spend it on suits and crap packs to attack you guys and "get good", quit crying like a whiny child. Makes you look dumb.
Now what is this prepping you speak of? This next war that is clearly going to be against yourselves. I say that since you already cry about the community not putting out against you, so really, who is gonna fight this next war that has you prepping for it? It has to be each other since I really doubt there is an undercover super duper alliance thats gonna magic missle DNS and give them a run for their isk. Really DNS, quit the crying, quit the lame as* reasoning you guys claim and just STFU and HTFU cause ya'll coming off like a bunch rich kid cry babies that are mad no one wants to play with them.
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bigolenuts wrote:
I'm not calling them anything. I'm just getting my ISK. If someone from DNS sent most of these Corps an invite they would join right up. Now your self-righteous finger points won't, just to save face but run of the mill Corps and single mercs would in a second. Don't believe me, start a recruiting thread offering "X" amount of ISK per week as an incentive.
I been offer'd to join a lot of corps, some with isk salaries, some just starting up and some that are known like VC, Anonymous (which died  ) and NC/NS.. I refused all of them. The NC/NS offer was made 2 or 3 weeks ago.
I can't say I speak for ML, but I will anyways since I'm an as*hole... offer denied. If you delete your main and all your alts via live stream, maybe, just maybe we might consider joining the blue donut. Just hold your breath while you delete them.
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noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 13:44:00 -
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Anonymous has moved to HvLP now
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
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Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick.
dem spandex yo
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Everything Dies
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:28:00 -
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SoTasLost Property wrote:
I actually agree with your first paragraph. It's 100% correct - but this IS a mercenary game - so what can you do to limit them and still allow them to feel like mercs?
And wish you didn't write the second :D
My thinking was this:
A PC battle should, in essence, be a skirmish match with an even amount of clones on each side (let's assume 150.) Bringing in a non-alliance member to ring should deduct 5 clones from your clone count, whereas an alliance member could cost 2 or 3. So a merc corporation (outside of the alliance) that supplied all 16 players for a match would have only 70 clones vs. the opponent's 150. Even that might not be enough of a penalty to stop the uber-deathsquads from securing the win, but it should make things much more interesting for more evenly-matched corps.
Other things:
A clone pack should place the attacker on equal footing with the defender for the battle. So if you had a district with 450 clones or whatever, the actual battle would be between the same number of clones in the clone pack (again, 150 as a hypothetical example.) If the attacking side wins, they can either press the attack with whatever clones they had left from the battle or restock with another clone pack. Pressing the attack would ensure that another corporation couldn't launch an attack on the weakened enemy, whereas using a clone pack resupply could result in a small timer penalty that opens up a window of opportunity for other corps to snipe an attack. Either way, the district isn't lost until the defender's clone count reaches zero. This--combined with relatively cheap prices for a clone pack--would enable the large, lower-quality corporations to wage wars of attrition against stronger opposition.
For the defending side, districts should restock at least one battle's worth of clones each day while providing ISK revenue. I honestly don't know what sort of amounts are currently involved with district ownership, so I'll have to defer to those of you that are currently involved in PC to figure out a reasonable amount of ISK that helps cover losses incurred without becoming ISK farms.
Thoughts?
Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit.
Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
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