Did you really have to go there , I'm surprised that Atiim didn't jump on that bandwagon too .

You've always got to expect flame when proposing a 'Nerf' to the Scouts, those guys always want something but are not willing to give up anything for it.

The removal of the Sidearm would've been the perfect way to introduce Scouts in this build and a perfect way for CCP to passively say "Hey, Scouts! Your suit isn't intended for Combat Purposes, so deal with it!"

Remove them, or at least change our **** bonus, the only people that NEED that bonus and need the Cloak are the ones who use them for Shotgunning, the ones who rely on them too heavily for combat purposes, Cloaks should NOT be used for Combat, and that is how they're being used.

Cloaks are a nuisance in-game, and are a pain to balance, either remove them, or make them use up more PG/CPU on our Scout suits.

Using a Cloak gives the player too much of an advantage over others, it allows them to assess a situation, plan their attack, and even start an engagement before the enemy even know you're there all for a low PG/CPU cost, because **** balance, right?

Its completely dumbed down Shotgunning, it promotes camping, and it only serves to worsen gameplay.

I hate the Cloak because it can be abused and taken far outside its intended use of safe traversal of a map, and a stealthy option for people who want to play a more passive Scout rather than being Combat Focused.

I also hate the Cloak because for some reason CCP thinks our bonus should rely on one piece of gear that does not suit everyone's playstyle, the Scout's bonus should have something to do with the TacNet, and later on down the road, the Cloak bonus should be applied to a Black Ops suit.

I specced into the Scout suit to Scout and sabotage, not hide in a corner almost completely invisible like a ****.

Shotguns already got nerfed in 1.8 and Cloak came to us Pre-Nerfed per CPM. I don't see the problem. The Scout is finally balanced and where it needs to be. If you don't like it don't use it simple as that.

If cloaks are pre-nerfed WTF WERE THEY ORIGINALLY?

Are you high? have you tried fitting 3 shields and 3 kinetics on a minmatar scouts with proto weapons and LVL 5 core skills?

I specced into the Scout suit to Scout and sabotage, not hide in a corner almost completely invisible like a ****.

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The removal of the Sidearm would've been the perfect way to introduce Scouts in this build and a perfect way for CCP to passively say "Hey, Scouts! Your suit isn't intended for Combat Purposes, so deal with it!"

It probably took the same amount of time that your own "intelligent" mind did to decide that the best way to achieve balance would be to remove them.

If cloaks are pre-nerfed WTF WERE THEY ORIGINALLY?

Firing weapons while cloaked; the weapons would drain the battery as they were fired and a bunch of other things.

Firing weapons while cloaked; the weapons would drain the battery as they were fired and a bunch of other things.

What was the shotgun nerf in 1.8?

Proficiency used to increase the RoF of the SG now it does more damage to shields, resulting in less damage overall against armour.

There are far more heavies on the field than scouts. I think things are fairly balanced at the moment, at least between scouts heavies and logis.

That said. I understand people's frustration about assault suits. They do seem a bit lacking compared to a scout suit kitted out for the assault role (a rifle and armor).

Firstly I think std/adv/proto assault suit module slot progression should go 5,6,7 not 4,5,7. This would fit nicely with 1.8 scout suit module progression of 4,5,6.

Secondly I think, in order to stop scouts treading on assault suit's shoes, either:

assault suit base hp should be slightly increased,
Or
scout suit cloak fitting bonus should be slightly reduced but cpu/pg requirements for biotic and scanning modules should be reduced as well to balance the reduced available cpu/pg. This would encourage scouts to fit more modules other than hp preventing them from taking the role away from assault suits, without nerfing scouts.

Most importantly though, scouts should not be nerfed! If you nerf scouts, heavies and logis will be OP.

To be honest, the game is more balanced now than it has been in ages. Further balancing changes would be more likely to mess things up than help.

Yeah, it is. The game played well before them, it will play well after. It's a garbage cheat for garbage cheaters.


Just like tanks.

Remove them, or at least change our **** bonus, the only people that NEED that bonus and need the Cloak are the ones who use them for Shotgunning, the ones who rely on them too heavily for combat purposes, Cloaks should NOT be used for Combat, and that is how they're being used.

Cloaks are a nuisance in-game, and are a pain to balance, either remove them, or make them use up more PG/CPU on our Scout suits.

Using a Cloak gives the player too much of an advantage over others, it allows them to assess a situation, plan their attack, and even start an engagement before the enemy even know you're there all for a low PG/CPU cost, because **** balance, right?

Its completely dumbed down Shotgunning, it promotes camping, and it only serves to worsen gameplay.

I hate the Cloak because it can be abused and taken far outside its intended use of safe traversal of a map, and a stealthy option for people who want to play a more passive Scout rather than being Combat Focused.

I also hate the Cloak because for some reason CCP thinks our bonus should rely on one piece of gear that does not suit everyone's playstyle, the Scout's bonus should have something to do with the TacNet, and later on down the road, the Cloak bonus should be applied to a Black Ops suit.

I specced into the Scout suit to Scout and sabotage, not hide in a corner almost completely invisible like a ****.