DUST Search - Scouts dont need Cloaks

Knight Solitaire wrote:

Remove them, or at least change our **** bonus, the only people that NEED that bonus and need the Cloak are the ones who use them for Shotgunning, the ones who rely on them too heavily for combat purposes, Cloaks should NOT be used for Combat, and that is how they're being used.

Cloaks are a nuisance in-game, and are a pain to balance, either remove them, or make them use up more PG/CPU on our Scout suits.

Using a Cloak gives the player too much of an advantage over others, it allows them to assess a situation, plan their attack, and even start an engagement before the enemy even know you're there all for a low PG/CPU cost, because **** balance, right?

Its completely dumbed down Shotgunning, it promotes camping, and it only serves to worsen gameplay.

I hate the Cloak because it can be abused and taken far outside its intended use of safe traversal of a map, and a stealthy option for people who want to play a more passive Scout rather than being Combat Focused.

I also hate the Cloak because for some reason CCP thinks our bonus should rely on one piece of gear that does not suit everyone's playstyle, the Scout's bonus should have something to do with the TacNet, and later on down the road, the Cloak bonus should be applied to a Black Ops suit.

I specced into the Scout suit to Scout and sabotage, not hide in a corner almost completely invisible like a ****.

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Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 548	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:19:00 - [91] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: The only people that whine about cloakers are the noobs with no skill anyway. where have I heard these arguments before? Oh thats right: Prenerf: tanks lasers flaylocks cal-logis melee glitchers overheat glitchers tankers and now cloakers. It is so easy to spot the mechanics that are broken in this game. Look for the stupid people saying "get gud" or some other mouth-breather terminology with fallacious arguments like "I take out 500 tanks a match with milita AV" or "I see everything everywhere on the map and so should you." Yep, spot those arguments and you have yourself tryhards defending a broken mechanic. "We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
Marc Rime 373	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:35:00 - [92] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Cloaks are a nuisance in-game, and are a pain to balance, either remove them, or make them use up more PG/CPU on our Scout suits. Or they could lower the reqs so everyone can equip them, but cut the duration by a factor of 5 and change the scout bonus to +100% duration per level. Or make whatever small tweaks cloaks are needed here and there. "KILL IT WITH FIRE" is not the only solution available to them.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 271	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:41:00 - [93] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Sourdough Muffins wrote: Shotguns already got nerfed in 1.8 and Cloak came to us Pre-Nerfed per CPM. I don't see the problem. The Scout is finally balanced and where it needs to be. If you don't like it don't use it simple as that. If cloaks are pre-nerfed WTF WERE THEY ORIGINALLY? Firing weapons while cloaked; the weapons would drain the battery as they were fired and a bunch of other things. What was the shotgun nerf in 1.8? Proficiency change from ROF to shield damage "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
Eruditus 920 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:51:00 - [94] - Quote "Remove them, or at least change our **** bonus, the only people that NEED that bonus and need the Cloak are the ones who use them for Shotgunning, the ones who rely on them too heavily for combat purposes, Cloaks should NOT be used for Combat, and that is how they're being used."\\ "Regardless of the original intent, everything in war ultimately ends up being used to kill, so weGÇÖre nervous and excited about cloaking and look forward to seeing how itGÇÖll be used to shape the battlefields of New Eden." -CCP Remnant http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 175	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:55:00 - [95] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Remove them, or at least change our ** bonus, the only people that NEED that bonus and need the Cloak are the ones who use them for Shotgunning, the ones who rely on them too heavily for combat purposes, Cloaks should NOT be used for Combat, and that is how they're being used. Cloaks are a nuisance in-game, and are a pain to balance, either remove them, or make them use up more PG/CPU on our Scout suits. Using a Cloak gives the player too much of an advantage over others, it allows them to assess a situation, plan their attack, and even start an engagement before the enemy even know you're there all for a low PG/CPU cost, because balance, right? Its completely dumbed down Shotgunning, it promotes camping, and it only serves to worsen gameplay. I hate the Cloak because it can be abused and taken far outside its intended use of safe traversal of a map, and a stealthy option for people who want to play a more passive Scout rather than being Combat Focused. I also hate the Cloak because for some reason CCP thinks our bonus should rely on one piece of gear that does not suit everyone's playstyle, the Scout's bonus should have something to do with the TacNet, and later on down the road, the Cloak bonus should be applied to a Black Ops suit. I specced into the Scout suit to Scout and sabotage, not hide in a corner almost completely invisible like a **. cloaks are fine. they arent the problem. the problem is how scouts think they need to tank HP. its a scout suit! not a sentinel!! people say 400HP isnt deadly on a scout. i say in combination with the cloak, it is. at least make it so cloaks cannot be used by hp tanking scouts. Every suit Gk.0 <3 Gallente Federation Patriot
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1986	Posted - 2014.04.12 21:12:00 - [96] - Quote I'd say about 10% of my WP's comes from kills in my scouts, and the rest comes from hacking and scanning.I use the cloak. I'm not sure what your bitching about............ click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 475	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:22:00 - [97] - Quote you people bltch about everything, you would think CCP dosnt know how to make their own game why the hell dont you douches suck it up and just deal with how shltcomes, the time for nerf this buff that is over, the cloak is perfect and you could have bricked scout frames before, the shotgun is a marginal weapon on any suit without a cloak and now its finally decently balanced with the addition of cloaking. so i guess the nerf horde gets any suits and weapons they precive as better than their personal set of gear is OP without reguard to prolferation of equipment due to the fact its NEW and maby just maby we dont have that many people actually playing this game for keeps?
Second Cerberus Tested In Production 123	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:45:00 - [98] - Quote After tankbush 1.7 I fully expected the cloak to be game breaking, however I have been pleasantly surprised. Truthfully, I have been killed by a cloaked scout multiple times but I took that as a GG on the shotty scout and moved on. I have killed many more scouts this build as a caldari heavy than have killed me. Like it or not this is one of the better balanced builds we've had so far. The variety of weapons and suits I see on the battlefield appears to be as good as it's ever been. If you want to suggest small tweaks to cloak duration, shimmer, cool down or a delay to weapons, that may be reasonable but the wholesale complaints about the cloak are unfounded. "I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production." - *CCP*
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2757	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:50:00 - [99] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Remove them, or at least change our ** bonus, the only people that NEED that bonus and need the Cloak are the ones who use them for Shotgunning, the ones who rely on them too heavily for combat purposes, Cloaks should NOT be used for Combat, and that is how they're being used. Cloaks are a nuisance in-game, and are a pain to balance, either remove them, or make them use up more PG/CPU on our Scout suits. Using a Cloak gives the player too much of an advantage over others, it allows them to assess a situation, plan their attack, and even start an engagement before the enemy even know you're there all for a low PG/CPU cost, because balance, right? Its completely dumbed down Shotgunning, it promotes camping, and it only serves to worsen gameplay. I hate the Cloak because it can be abused and taken far outside its intended use of safe traversal of a map, and a stealthy option for people who want to play a more passive Scout rather than being Combat Focused. I also hate the Cloak because for some reason CCP thinks our bonus should rely on one piece of gear that does not suit everyone's playstyle, the Scout's bonus should have something to do with the TacNet, and later on down the road, the Cloak bonus should be applied to a Black Ops suit. I specced into the Scout suit to Scout and sabotage, not hide in a corner almost completely invisible like a **. Preach Knight! You know Zatara made a point the other day....why does the cloak have a 25% reduction in scan profile. Cloaks work by reflecting light (courtesy of Blind Spot)...how does that equate to radar? There shouldn't be a scan profile reduction......that needs to be removed. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Sarcastic Dreamkiller BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 93	Posted - 2014.04.13 04:51:00 - [100] - Quote I might get some hate for this but....Scan Precision exists for a reason, start leveling it up.



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