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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:40:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote: I would too, and so would lots of people. The issue I think lies with the contract with Sony, which is why there also can't be a test server. So until that contract is up, there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Kind of a ****** situation, eh?
Sony won't let them construct a test environment out of self preservation.
Would you let a group of 12 year old special ed kids with hammers play in your house?
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:41:00 -
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Delanus Turgias wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Delanus Turgias wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:You are correct. When you spawn in with less displayed armor/shield, NONE of your skill bonuses are applying. IF you are an Amarr logi, and you see your shield/armor lower, then your uplinks do not spawn with the logi bonuses.
*snip* I cannot see how a QA tester didn't see this. *snip* >implying there are QA testers If they give us a test server I will gladly slave away hours on end trying to screen for bugs and perform rigorous testing I would too, and so would lots of people. The issue I think lies with the contract with Sony, which is why there also can't be a test server. So until that contract is up, there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Kind of a ****** situation, eh?
Idk man I'd be happy as a clam at high tide if they would identify, diagnose and hotfix issues like this very quickly, and by very quickly I mean under a week or so.
If you cant have a QA/bug testing team; fine. If you don't have the ability to put out a test server; fine. But at the very least figure out a different way to address the issues.
I haven't raged this hard ever since I read a particularly amazing post from days old (Interestingly enough Delanus, it was on the Subdreddit subreddit at the time) that talked about raging and psychological warfare in dust, but my god when I pull out a 200k ISK suit who's only highlighting characteristic is its bonus and I die because for some reason these bonuses don't apply then well... sigh
Being a Medium frame in a Light and Heavy frame world sure is tough, but thats a separate issue.
The Sinwarden
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:57:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:This is all easily explained by 3 words. Made in China. It's actually really not. China makes your precious iPhones, and everyone seems to think they're the most quality thing since machine-sliced bread. Actually Shanghai is part of China so it is. Odds are everyone's posts in this thread are from electronic devices made in China. Singling out Apple makes you look petty Awry. I don't think you completely understood his point bud The part you underlined is worded incorrectly. It reads as refuting the claim Dust 514 is developed in China. What Awry should have said is, "The quality of the game has nothing to do with being made in China. [insert example here]."
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:59:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:This is all easily explained by 3 words. Made in China. It's actually really not. China makes your precious iPhones, and everyone seems to think they're the most quality thing since machine-sliced bread. Actually Shanghai is part of China so it is. Odds are everyone's posts in this thread are from electronic devices made in China. Singling out Apple makes you look petty Awry. I don't think you completely understood his point bud The part you underlined is worded incorrectly. It reads as refuting the claim Dust 514 is developed in China. What Awry should have said is, "The quality of the game has nothing to do with being made in China. [insert example here]."
Now you're nitpicking lol
Just kidding. Yes I think we all understand this now.
But it's off topic. Find a way to fix this glitch CCP. Please
The Sinwarden
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:02:00 -
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You know, if they pay for my plane ticket, I'll do the fixing and optimization for free. Or I would do it for 500 mil isk and 20mil SP ;) |
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:09:00 -
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I also feel I should add that the PS3 dev kit is expensive and often devs only have one to work on at a time. There is some chance that there is a bottle neck on the PS3 dev kit in addition to complexities with using the Unreal Engine on it. |
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:18:00 -
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Has anyone managed to figure out how to work around the glitch or is it completely random? Sometimes I find my skills apply as soon as I spawn, albeit rarely, and other times it can take up to 2 minutes, which again is rare for it to take that long.
But I find that the load in times are different, anyone got an answer for this one?
The Sinwarden
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SAI-DAC THORNE
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:19:00 -
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I have refrained and have never posted negative replies on any forum format. I can see the vision CCP has to make a connection to EvE and have one massive virtual world where the possibilities are endless. I do hope that vision comes to fruition someday.
If someone asked for my opinion, and they didn't. I would say, go back to 1.6 and collectively fix as many bugs, lags and glitch issues as you possibly could. 1.6 was pretty damn close to being balanced. I love the new toys as much as anybody else. But let's face it. Not a one of them work as their intended.
Slow down and don't worry about these guys wanting a fresh pair of panties in every update. What we, the serious, long time players want is a stable platform. A character that fits our play style and persona. Not an update that forces you to become something your not.
1.7 was a Tank Spam sandwich with a slice of Rail Gun with a cool Combat Rifle to drink.
1.8 seems to be the rise of the Scout with cloaking.
Some may rail on my post and some will surely have something ignorant to say because he/she was abused by their father. The facts are serious though. 75% of my corporation do not log on anymore and each update drives more away. Most were veterans and some scrubs but any player that turns away from DUST hurts us all. |
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:29:00 -
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SAI-DAC THORNE wrote:I have refrained and have never posted negative replies on any forum format. I can see the vision CCP has to make a connection to EvE and have one massive virtual world where the possibilities are endless. I do hope that vision comes to fruition someday.
If someone asked for my opinion, and they didn't. I would say, go back to 1.6 and collectively fix as many bugs, lags and glitch issues as you possibly could. 1.6 was pretty damn close to being balanced. I love the new toys as much as anybody else. But let's face it. Not a one of them work as their intended.
Slow down and don't worry about these guys wanting a fresh pair of panties in every update. What we, the serious, long time players want is a stable platform. A character that fits our play style and persona. Not an update that forces you to become something your not.
1.7 was a Tank Spam sandwich with a slice of Rail Gun with a cool Combat Rifle to drink.
1.8 seems to be the rise of the Scout with cloaking.
Some may rail on my post and some will surely have something ignorant to say because he/she was abused by their father. The facts are serious though. 75% of my corporation do not log on anymore and each update drives more away. Most were veterans and some scrubs but any player that turns away from DUST hurts us all.
TBH I'm inclined to agree with you but the same way you believe in CCPs vision for Dust and EVE I think you must believe in the number one saying for this game; Adapt or Die
The new meta is now high SP players who have more than 1 role (I have 3) that they are able to switch to and dominate in, being specialized will get you far but having multiple specializations will get you way farther.
I've been raging and complaining mostly because I've been forcing the Amarr Assault into every situation because the Amarr Assault is my specialization, it has been my generalist suit ever since 1.0 came out but now with the newly buffed Scouts and Heavies and the nerf to the ScR (proficiency changes) situations and circumstances where my Amarr Assault would excel in become rarer and rarer.
I could easily switch to my scout suit and counter the opponent's counter to my assault suit but I guess I'm just stubborn and slightly (very) masochistic.
Point being, you can't let the game beat you, constantly adapt and figure out how you can beat your opponent because were not only fighting each other, were kinda also fighting the game.
But, with that said, glitches like this are not acceptable. I would be all fine and dandy dying countless times in my Amarr Assault if my bonuses worked properly and I was dying due to my own stupidity but no, the game is literally hindering my ability, making it hard for me to excel in my chosen role and absolutely screwing with my muscle memory; something I've gained from supporting and playing this game of yours for over a year now CCP.
The Sinwarden
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:42:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:If they knew what the problem was and how to fix it it would have been done by now.
100% this.
Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:46:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Everytime there is an update something new gets broken. It is so predictable. Yes, this usually applies to every coding project in companies not even related to gaming. Coding is complicated. I know zilch about coding but I expect someone to be able to do something they are trained in. A lot of the problems are clearly simple mistakes, the bonuses not applying upon spawn for example.
How can you know that it is a simple mistake when you, by your own admission, know nothing about coding?
Coding is incredibly complex...I don't know what coding language CCP uses but I've written enough code in my time (Raptor, C++, html, Java) to have a very, very large appreciation for anyone that writes computer code for a living.
Because I sure as hell could never do it.
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:50:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Everytime there is an update something new gets broken. It is so predictable. Yes, this usually applies to every coding project in companies not even related to gaming. Coding is complicated. I know zilch about coding but I expect someone to be able to do something they are trained in. A lot of the problems are clearly simple mistakes, the bonuses not applying upon spawn for example. How can you know that it is a simple mistake when you, by your own admission, know nothing about coding? Coding is incredibly complex...I don't know what coding language CCP uses but I've written enough code in my time (Raptor, C++, html, Java) to have a very, very large appreciation for anyone that writes computer code for a living. Because I sure as hell could never do it.
They don't really write code like that. The engine does most of the work. I believe they don't actually code the engine directly, they pay someone else (likely Unreal) for low level support. considering the mechanics it is likely a majority db related code if anything.
I have to agree that there is a degree of incompetency in the execution of some of these things that CCP does. That being said, don't spend money on aurum. I think I am officially done doing that. I am sick of seeing my money go to waste over there. They don't deserve it right now. I like this game but they have some serious bugs to work on. There should be a version 1.8.9 before 1.9 where 1.8 is bug free before loading new content. |
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R F Gyro
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:57:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:That causes us to spawn in without or bonuses and skills applying? Can someone explain this to me? Because frankly this is quite a game breaking bug/glitch, at least for me. CCP Shanghai built up a mountain of technical debt back in 2011/12 by rushing to add features and ignoring quality. This brought their productivity down to almost zero in the middle of last year, and it is still causing them problems now. There's presumably a bunch of code that is poorly understood and that interacts in "interesting" ways with other poorly understood code to create this kind of situation.
CCP recognised this and started to fix it in the second half of last year. This is why we didn't see 6 monthly "expansions" as we were expecting, we saw monthly releases of low-risk (from a code management perspective) changes. They are taking the right steps, but it takes time. If we are patient we'll start to see the benefits over the next few months.
All this is just speculation on my part, of course, but it fits all the facts as I see them.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Duke Noobiam
Nyain Chan
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:08:00 -
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It's not a bug, it's a feature...
How do you kill that which has no life?
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