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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1185	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote and on screen as well. It makes these super stealthy super fast war machines a little bit easier to dodge as infantry, and is a small step towards full balance Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4900	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:56:00 - [2] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and on screen as well. It makes these super stealthy super fast war machines a little bit easier to dodge as infantry, and is a small step towards full balance TRUE. There is no reason why a TAnk should have lower db than a heavy frame. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1529	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:59:00 - [3] - Quote How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32 Atiim didn't agree with limiting tanks!
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 857	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:00:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and on screen as well. It makes these super stealthy super fast war machines a little bit easier to dodge as infantry, and is a small step towards full balance TRUE. There is no reason why a TAnk should have lower db than a heavy frame. Technically, it doesn't outside of odd bugs when they don't show up at all. They still follow the rules of passive scanning though, and that means you must be in range to pick it up. For most suits that is extremely short range. I think tanks should appear on radar for as far as blasters can reach, so like 150m.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2733	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:01:00 - [5] - Quote Yes for the love of jebus yes, do you no how many times I've been ninja killed by tanks in a dang scout suit? Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4903	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:05:00 - [6] - Quote Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1185	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:06:00 - [7] - Quote Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" the fact that a tank is harder to passively scan than a basic scout destroys your entire argument. You may now leave this thread with your "Im a poor widdle tanker and have to deal with these OP infantry that can't even hurt me get angry whenever i pull out my win-machine that can easily kill each and every one of them" whinings. The whole of scrub tanker kind needs to stop it--it pisses me off. Also, lets just examine the advantages of a tank compared to a drop suit, shall we? Tank is faster Tank regenerates HP faster Tank has more HP Tank has more range and damage Tank has AV and AI capabilities at the same time Tank is invisible to passive scans Tank is invulnerable to all non-tank fire Tank requires less teamwork to win So why exactly are you complaining? Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9285	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:07:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 498	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:09:00 - [9] - Quote And all infantry should be in binds so they cannot run and dropships should have to use water as ballast and be tetherd to a jeep on the ground closed beta Vet "When in doubt, C-4"
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1188	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:09:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. Sure the sound is good, but why are they more dampened than drop suits? that makes no feasible sense. You are one of the few tankers whose opinion i can value, so id like your opinion on my OP. Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1188	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:10:00 - [11] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: And all infantry should be in binds so they cannot run and dropships should have to use water as ballast and be tetherd to a jeep on the ground Ah, the classic tanker troll Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 498	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:11:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. This is true, I use a Sony pulse headset and I can litterly hear scouts sneaking up on my fat ass in city maps (I'm not jokeing) closed beta Vet "When in doubt, C-4"
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4904	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:16:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. my good friend Adamance... That is NOT A REASON why a Tank should have better dampening tahn ANY suit. Your point , is invalid. If i spend MILLIONS of SP in E-WAR, is because i like to see stuff in my radar see? Not only! what happens if my GF is sleeping and i have to turn DOWN the volume? Then im F* just because your solution is to pay more attention to sounds? A REASON, can SOMEONE give me a GOOD reason why a tank has less Db than ANY suit?** Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 363	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:16:00 - [14] - Quote Vehicles have a huge scan profile, like 150db, it's just been bugged forever. As far as picking them up by sound, doesn't really help when there are numerous vehicles on the field with no way to differentiate between friendly and enemy plus sound lag plus they are all stupidly fast plus the fact that the sound doesn't do a great job of helping place them without good phones and/or surround sound. Imo, they should be permanently visible (as they were most likely intended to be) until stealth mods and counters are introduced for vehicles.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 275	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:20:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. my good friend Adamance... That is NOT A REASON why a Tank should have better dampening tahn ANY suit. Your point , is invalid. If i spend MILLIONS of SP in E-WAR, is because i like to see stuff in my radar see? As far as picking them up by sound, doesn't really help when there are 300 Bullets flying around ,explosiones the Chick that says that thanks to my useless blue berries we are loosing ''X'' Objective.... Not only! what happens if my GF is sleeping and i have to turn DOWN the volume? Then im F* just because your solution is to pay more attention to sounds? A REASON, can SOMEONE give me a GOOD reason why a tank has less Db than ANY suit? it has an inbuilt scanning scrambler that prevetns infantry from detecting its precense. Elite Gallenten Soldier**
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4905	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:21:00 - [16] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: it has an inbuilt scanning scrambler that prevetns infantry from detecting its precense. Quote that with a picture or point me to official CCP released info on this RIGHT now and i'll give you 5 million isk funny boy. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1529	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:22:00 - [17] - Quote Perhaps there is a problem with passive scan picking up vehicles within the passive scan radius. If it's a bug, I'm all for it to being fixed. Those who commented on me (you could've been more polite and intelligent by the way), I was saying why vehicles and tanks shouldn't be an exception to passive scan. It's all about earning your information and having situational awareness. Not having situational awareness is not an excuse to moan about tanks sneaking up on you. Even I can hear other tanks when I'm in my own and I'm not even using a headset; I at times stop dead in my tracks to get a better ear on my surroundings. If the constant pulsating sound given off by tanks isn't enough for you, then whenever they fire it should be a dead giveaway that there's a tank nearby. But if you still fail to hear them before they 'sneak' up on you, then it's entirely your fault. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32 Atiim didn't agree with limiting tanks!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1191	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:24:00 - [18] - Quote The Eristic wrote: Vehicles have a huge scan profile, like 150db, it's just been bugged forever. As far as picking them up by sound, doesn't really help when there are numerous vehicles on the field with no way to differentiate between friendly and enemy plus sound lag plus they are all stupidly fast plus the fact that the sound doesn't do a great job of helping place them without good phones and/or surround sound. Imo, they should be permanently visible (as they were most likely intended to be) until stealth mods and counters are introduced for vehicles. This right here. Tell us to fuckin adapt again tankers i dare you. you should learn to adapt yourselves Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4909	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:30:00 - [19] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Perhaps there is a problem with passive scan picking up vehicles within the passive scan radius. If it's a bug, I'm all for it to being fixed. Those who commented on me (you could've been more polite and intelligent by the way), I was saying why vehicles and tanks shouldn't be an exception to passive scan. It's all about earning your information and having situational awareness. Not having situational awareness is not an excuse to moan about tanks sneaking up on you. Even I can hear other tanks when I'm in my own and I'm not even using a headset; I at times stop dead in my tracks to get a better ear on my surroundings. If the constant pulsating sound given off by tanks isn't enough for you, then whenever they fire it should be a dead giveaway that there's a tank nearby. But if you still fail to hear them before they 'sneak' up on you, then it's entirely your fault. What you are saying is that if im a DEAF person, im not allowed to Enjoy Dust514? That if , because im out of work TOO late EVERYDAY ,and i have to play with VERY low volume, then i must just accept my fate, so that tankers can keep being Radar invisible? NEIN. You.are.wrong. You know what, considering the THREAT they are, Tanks should ALWAYS be on every infantry men radar at a MINIMUM range of 50mts, regardless their sp investment on E-war skills.... Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Sev Alcatraz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 499	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:33:00 - [20] - Quote If I sneak up on you in a 85 ton tank and you just completely ignor me you and your ignorance deserve to be blasted into oblivion with a Farris slug, the same goes for the sniper who I drove up behind on manus peak got out of the tank looked at him got back in lined the rail gun up with his head then seperated the top of his head from the lower half of his body. closed beta Vet "When in doubt, C-4"

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14159	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:33:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. I only have stereo and because dust 514's sound engine is terrible at times, its feasible for an HAV to sneak up on me. now... vehicle call downs you cannot hide at least. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 105	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:40:00 - [22] - Quote Really...so I pull up on the blue side of a map, and an enemy tank comes around the corner, with no sound or visual giveaways at all. Now how can I count on reaching any point of the map without being canon fodder?
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1195	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:40:00 - [23] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: If I sneak up on you in a 85 ton tank and you just completely ignor me, you and your ignorance deserve to be blasted into oblivion with a Farris slug, the same goes for the sniper who I drove up behind on manus peak got out of the tank looked at him got back in lined the rail gun up with his head then seperated the top of his body from the lower half. the reason you can sneak up on us isn't due to ignorance but rather severe tunnel vision and the complete invisibility of tankson the radar Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9286	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:44:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. I only have stereo and because dust 514's sound engine is terrible at times, its feasible for an HAV to sneak up on me. now... vehicle call downs you cannot hide at least. Fair call... I don't know if my headphone affect this....additionally I also like to stop and power down my own engines to get a clear listen to what I might be driving into. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 705	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:47:00 - [25] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and on screen as well. It makes these super stealthy super fast war machines a little bit easier to dodge as infantry, and is a small step towards full balance If a tank sneaks up on you because you were not paying attention to the LOUD NOISE, the BRIGHT LIGHTS, and the CLEAR VISIBILITY FROM THE MAP. Then you kind of deserve to be killed by one. Just because you are oblivious to your environment (AKA not paying attention in the least) doesn't warrant a free handout. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1195	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:49:00 - [26] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and on screen as well. It makes these super stealthy super fast war machines a little bit easier to dodge as infantry, and is a small step towards full balance If a tank sneaks up on you because you were not paying attention to the LOUD NOISE, the BRIGHT LIGHTS, and the CLEAR VISIBILITY FROM THE MAP. Then you kind of deserve to be killed by one. Just because you are oblivious to your environment (AKA not paying attention in the least) doesn't warrant a free handout. Arggh this tanker ignorance is killing my brain cells Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9288	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:51:00 - [27] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. my good friend Adamance... That is NOT A REASON why a Tank should have better dampening tahn ANY suit. Your point , is invalid. If i spend MILLIONS of SP in E-WAR, is because i like to see stuff in my radar see? As far as picking them up by sound, doesn't really help when there are 300 Bullets flying around ,explosiones the Chick that says that thanks to my useless blue berries we are loosing ''X'' Objective.... Not only! what happens if my GF is sleeping and i have to turn DOWN the volume? Then im F* just because your solution is to pay more attention to sounds? What if i am DEAF? HUH? Im not mad, just using over dramatic Forum skillz to make my point.... A REASON, can SOMEONE give me a GOOD reason why a tank has less Db than ANY suit?** It not a reason no....I never said it was. Only suggested that it was in fact a way you could identify and acknowledge the presence of enemy HAV units on the battlefield. You think you are the only on who gets blindsided by such tanks? If anything I suffer from that sort of think more.... having a Particle Cannon materialise behind you or next to you sucks ass. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1529	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:52:00 - [28] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: Perhaps there is a problem with passive scan picking up vehicles within the passive scan radius. If it's a bug, I'm all for it to being fixed. Those who commented on me (you could've been more polite and intelligent by the way), I was saying why vehicles and tanks shouldn't be an exception to passive scan. It's all about earning your information and having situational awareness. Not having situational awareness is not an excuse to moan about tanks sneaking up on you. Even I can hear other tanks when I'm in my own and I'm not even using a headset; I at times stop dead in my tracks to get a better ear on my surroundings. If the constant pulsating sound given off by tanks isn't enough for you, then whenever they fire it should be a dead giveaway that there's a tank nearby. But if you still fail to hear them before they 'sneak' up on you, then it's entirely your fault. What you are saying is that if im a DEAF person, im not allowed to Enjoy Dust514? That if , because im out of work TOO late EVERYDAY ,and i have to play with VERY low volume, then i must just accept my fate, so that tankers can keep being Radar invisible? NEIN. You.are.wrong. You know what, considering the THREAT they are, Tanks should ALWAYS be on every infantry men radar at a MINIMUM range of 50mts, regardless their sp investment on E-war skills.... Your personal problems are your own. You can't ask for a game to be catered to you because of your personal problems. I find what you asked to be just plain wrong. Well what if a BLIND person wanted to enjoy Dust? I'm sorry but your comment is unacceptable. What if you were missing your legs but you really wanted to go mountaineering or rock climbing? You probably could, depending on how good you are, but there's no doubt that it will be a lot harder on you than someone that's able. On your last statement, what if I made a counter-argument and said that because of the threat that AV infantry poses to my vehicle, they should always be on my TacNet at a minimum range of 50 meters. It's like asking that no AV grenadier should be able to get within throwing distance of me, simply because I'm in a vehicle with better electronics systems so I should be able to detect you as well no matter what. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32 Atiim didn't agree with limiting tanks!
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 105	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:53:00 - [29] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: and on screen as well. It makes these super stealthy super fast war machines a little bit easier to dodge as infantry, and is a small step towards full balance If a tank sneaks up on you because you were not paying attention to the LOUD NOISE, the BRIGHT LIGHTS, and the CLEAR VISIBILITY FROM THE MAP. Then you kind of deserve to be killed by one. Just because you are oblivious to your environment (AKA not paying attention in the least) doesn't warrant a free handout. Ahem...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14159	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:53:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: True Adamance wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Harpyja wrote: How many times will I have to say this: no. Use your ears and eyes to spot that tank, as you can hear it from far away. You have no excuse if your situational awareness is bad. Information must be earned, not given. Or how about this? Que tears down the face "Those heavies! I hate it when one sneaks up on me from behind and knifes me, especially when I'm in my scout suit! I should be able to hear them from 50 meters away, not when they knife me in the back! I shouldn't have to use my eyes and look at the TacNet to spot them!" Ok crutch boy. Sadly, the Noise of TANKS is not HIGH enough. Constant visaul Contact with enemy tanks is hard and is VERY map dependant. Now, ,if i have 2 Complex Precision enhancers , Scan precision on 5, on a Gal scout with 2 Complex range amplifiers... GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY I CAN DETECT enemy scouts and Med frames 40 mts away but i cant see a tank sneaking behind me. Dude..... you need to pay more attention then. You can hear them from 50m away.... I mean sure I am a Tanker but sound awareness is key to identifying HAV types and locations. Give it a try, an hour or two and you can do it as well. I only have stereo and because dust 514's sound engine is terrible at times, its feasible for an HAV to sneak up on me. now... vehicle call downs you cannot hide at least. Fair call... I don't know if my headphone affect this....additionally I also like to stop and power down my own engines to get a clear listen to what I might be driving into. speaking of which dropship engines need to cut when they land. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked



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