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jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:40:00 - [1] - Quote I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1116	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:41:00 - [2] - Quote Get good? Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1448	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:42:00 - [3] - Quote ...until you come at them with a rail rifle. Then they giggle, reach into my stomach via my mouth, and break my spine. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:43:00 - [4] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Get good? Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. Yes it is I kill mire with a basic magsec scout, the cal sent is too big for little shields it has, sure it has regen but its so big unless you are already shooting from cover or something, goodluck Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:44:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: ...until you come at them with a rail rifle. Then they giggle, reach into my stomach via my mouth, and break my spine. Umm, what? Btw I used a hmg and a rail rifke to test this. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2302	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:47:00 - [6] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Get good? Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. it's average, he's not wrong though scouts are far mroe survivable then the cal sentinel atm, but that's due to cloaking speed, and just being all around amazing.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:49:00 - [7] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Get good? Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. it's average, he's not wrong though scouts are far mroe survivable then the cal sentinel atm, but that's due to cloaking speed, and just being all around amazing. My fit has 626 shields, now im not going to be hugging cover 24/7, but ccp needs to look at buffing the shields of it somehow, hp, or passive regen....idk Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution 376	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:51:00 - [8] - Quote If anything that just proves you are a terrible heavy. The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 999	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:51:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 498	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:52:00 - [10] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? They won't . The Basic series still don't have their stats corrected . It should have two low slots and I know that people are about to spaz out about shield tanking and their massive amount ( ) of shields and the rest of that bla .. bla but , it's a freaking heavy and heavies should tank and shields are in such a weak state right now and pushing the , " but Caldari's are suppose to shield tank " and all but ... that's not helping them . I miss the way that I felt wearing my pre-1.8 assault suits . That shield efficacy really helped to make me feel confident and secure . I just upgraded to the Sentinel today to I will find out but you really don't notice role bonuses until you go advanced so If your right I will tell you but having only one low slots on their heavies make them weak and even worse with the shield condition . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .

Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 293	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:53:00 - [11] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: calisk galern wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Get good? Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. it's average, he's not wrong though scouts are far mroe survivable then the cal sentinel atm, but that's due to cloaking speed, and just being all around amazing. My fit has 626 shields, now im not going to be hugging cover 24/7, but ccp needs to look at buffing the shields of it somehow, hp, or passive regen....idk Take more armor and give shields. Yer dead already if they breach your shields, less armor wont matter. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Horizen Kenpachi Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 281	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:54:00 - [12] - Quote Just sounds like ur a better scout than heavy i have both and its not about ehp its about recharge. Amarr wait years to get bk into the fight a cal seconds. I wear the enermy down they cant do that with me try altering ur fit or use it for situationaly cover/suppresion is our friend. I hope u find peace with ur dropsuit. Hit me with your nerf bat.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:55:00 - [13] - Quote Horizen Kenpachi wrote: Just sounds like ur a better scout than heavy i have both and its not about ehp its about recharge. Amarr wait years to get bk into the fight a cal seconds. I wear the enermy down they cant do that with me try altering ur fit or use it for situationaly cover/suppresion is our friend. I hope u find peace with ur dropsuit. No I did better in 1.7 The cal heavy has 0 tank And the cal sent is meant to tank not be a long range *****, as it has an hmg and resistances.... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2176	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:57:00 - [14] - Quote Caldari Sentinel is hands-down the best Forge Gun sniper. It's also good at guerilla style engagements, but it seems too slow to me to truly be great at it. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:58:00 - [15] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? Um, no, its a cqc, its a damm sentinel with resistance bonuses, 1 type of tank, and an hmf... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6367	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:01:00 - [16] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? This evidence isn't permissible, as it is an anecdote. It's far more likely that your performing better with the Caldari Scout because it better suits your playstyle. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
jerrmy12 kahoalii 862	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:03:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? This evidence isn't permissible, as it is an anecdote. It's far more likely that your performing better with the Caldari Scout because it better suits your playstyle. Nono, in 1.7 I did better as a heavy than the cal heavy now, ita too slow to get in cover in time and you must have a rr to use cover properly and its just too squishy, double the shields of my scour, alot slower and easy to hit, barely is the regen usefull because mkst people use either rr or hmg Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1117	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:06:00 - [18] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? Um, no, its a cqc, its a damm sentinel with resistance bonuses, 1 type of tank, and an hmf... Forge gun, the long range weapon, is caldari, use it. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1117	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:08:00 - [19] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atiim wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? This evidence isn't permissible, as it is an anecdote. It's far more likely that your performing better with the Caldari Scout because it better suits your playstyle. Nono, in 1.7 I did better as a heavy than the cal heavy now, ita too slow to get in cover in time and you must have a rr to use cover properly and its just too squishy, double the shields of my scour, alot slower and easy to hit, barely is the regen usefull because mkst people use either rr or hmg Let me guess..you're running extenders? Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
jerrmy12 kahoalii 864	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:09:00 - [20] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? Um, no, its a cqc, its a damm sentinel with resistance bonuses, 1 type of tank, and an hmf... Forge gun, the long range weapon, is caldari, use it. I disnt soec SENTINEL for 1 tank tyoe for fucken av, so no, so suit like this shoukd be designed around pure long range Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears

jerrmy12 kahoalii 864	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:10:00 - [21] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Atiim wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? This evidence isn't permissible, as it is an anecdote. It's far more likely that your performing better with the Caldari Scout because it better suits your playstyle. Nono, in 1.7 I did better as a heavy than the cal heavy now, ita too slow to get in cover in time and you must have a rr to use cover properly and its just too squishy, double the shields of my scour, alot slower and easy to hit, barely is the regen usefull because mkst people use either rr or hmg Let me guess..you're running extenders? 2 extenders 2 energizers Or 1 extender 2 energizers Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1612	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:10:00 - [22] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? Here, have your thousandth like. Ding! Also nice corp name. Nerdier than thou
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1117	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:12:00 - [23] - Quote Forge gun is only AV for **** players, I use it for AP. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
jerrmy12 kahoalii 864	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:13:00 - [24] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? Oh and So basically I cant play any objective mode because you people think its a long range suit...nope Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 864	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:14:00 - [25] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for **** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1117	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:16:00 - [26] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for ** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much You're just **. Get good Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
jerrmy12 kahoalii 864	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:18:00 - [27] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for ** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much You're just **. Get good Your just an idiot Get good Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1658	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:18:00 - [28] - Quote If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:21:00 - [29] - Quote Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
see see-pee A.O.D. VP Gaming Alliance 11	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:23:00 - [30] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? JUST GIVE CAL HEV 50-75 MORE CPU... IT WILL BE A KILLER LIKE IT SHOULD THEN See See-Pee On U Fools~ see see-pee or not to pee ... that's the question

Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1118	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:26:00 - [31] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2176	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:27:00 - [32] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for ** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much You're just . Get good This. Anti-infantry blapping works great if you can aim. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord** CCP Logibro]
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:29:00 - [33] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub Yea, so can I The problem is its patheticly weak tank, kid. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1121	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:31:00 - [34] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub Yea, so can I The problem is its patheticly weak tank, kid. Tank isn't everything, you're ****, get good, stop QQing Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
LittleCuteBunny 389	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:31:00 - [35] - Quote Caldari Sentinel trades brick tanking for repair tool independence and mobility. If you used an armor brick heavy you will understand the importance and freedom that the Caldari Sentinel possesses. Retired.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:32:00 - [36] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for ** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much You're just **. Get good This. Anti-infantry blapping works great if you can aim. Exept its way too slow and boring and its done better by a rail rifle, 3 sec charge time+lag+boring=no Plus this suit isnt based off 1 weapon. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:33:00 - [37] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub Yea, so can I The problem is its patheticly weak tank, kid. Tank isn't everything, you're ****, get good, stop QQing Oh nice comeback kid, when its very skow and any suit can so it better, something wrong Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1658	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:37:00 - [38] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub Yea, so can I The problem is its patheticly weak tank, kid. Shields in CCP games have NEVER yielded large values... The mere assumption is hilarious.... If you can't figure out the HMG is left with the general Damage it deals until we release the Heavy weapon Variants that are sitting in DUST's source code right now? and you have closed beta vet in your Signature? Your a poser.. Even worse claiming Min sentinel has a weak tank.... Like it's supposed to tank like a gal.... Even worse it seems a large part of this game escapes you. This is becoming a thinking mans shooter... And it's scary to have to use thought... instead of just rushing in not thinking or... giving a **** CoD stylez. Worse is you told Mossellia to get good.... He is... Who the hell are you? A forum warrior?
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 738	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:38:00 - [39] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Yeh well I make it op so their's that. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:42:00 - [40] - Quote Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped. Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong. People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault... People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it... You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed... Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors... Which is how CCP builds balance. Yea um thats not the problem And no because of my gear I ahouldnt have auto lose gear, and projectiles are anti ARMOR nit shield My god this game is broken I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub Yea, so can I The problem is its patheticly weak tank, kid. Shields in CCP games have NEVER yielded large values... The mere assumption is hilarious.... If you can't figure out the HMG is left with the general Damage it deals until we release the Heavy weapon Variants that are sitting in DUST's source code right now? and you have closed beta vet in your Signature? Your a poser.. Even worse claiming Min sentinel has a weak tank.... Like it's supposed to tank like a gal.... Even worse it seems a large part of this game escapes you. This is becoming a thinking mans shooter... And it's scary to have to use thought... instead of just rushing in not thinking or... giving a **** CoD stylez. Worse is you told Mossellia to get good.... He is... Who the hell are you? A forum warrior? :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears

Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 93	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:44:00 - [41] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Are you crazy? I ******* love the Caldari Sentinel. I run it with a scrambler rifle even. "Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:46:00 - [42] - Quote Hoover Damn wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Are you crazy? I ******* love the Caldari Sentinel. I run it with a scrambler rifle even. Its weak is the problem, for a slow ass heavy sentinek its weak and barely stronger than my scout, its good sometimes but most if the time, insta death by rail rifles and the sorts... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 81	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:47:00 - [43] - Quote I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1663	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:49:00 - [44] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoal wrote: :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine... And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution. They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out... Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel. I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does...
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:50:00 - [45] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:51:00 - [46] - Quote Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoal wrote: :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine... And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution. They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out... Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel. I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does... :ultra facepalm: Im not talking heavy vs heavy here, damm people learn to read Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 370	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:54:00 - [47] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for **** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much \ Yup you are a bad heavy.......stick with scout . No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 342	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:54:00 - [48] - Quote Forge Gun wasn't always focused on AV.. Forum QQ turned into a shell of what it once was. Come on CCP give us damn number stats on why the forge gun was nerfed so hard! Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 157	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:55:00 - [49] - Quote Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health. I'm a logi now! :D
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:56:00 - [50] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for **** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much \ Yup you are a bad heavy.......stick with scout . Exept im nit, did much better with amarr sentinel in a competitive environment than the cal heavy, low hp slow speed....regen but negated by speed and hitbox, or the fact that I play skirmish and dom and dont play cal heavy all day. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears

CLONE117 True Pros Forever 743	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:56:00 - [51] - Quote sounds to me someone didnt bother speccing out core skills for shields.. im pretty sure cal sentinal base has alot more shields than that at base with shield upgrades maxed. plus its faster than amarr heavy and armor tanked gal heavies. unless u decided to put armor plates onto it. it should technically be the second fastest heavy.if not brick tanked.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1663	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:56:00 - [52] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoal wrote: :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine... And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution. They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out... Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel. I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does... :ultra facepalm: Im not talking heavy vs heavy here, damm people learn to read Your pretty thick eh? like my god... If you don't even wanna talk about how it's balanced within its own class... then somehow its to weak versus other classes? And we just had the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors talk? And it's the Heavy class we are talking about? Just stop. And remove your Closed beta vet out of your signature... It's a joke.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:57:00 - [53] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health. Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:58:00 - [54] - Quote Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoal wrote: :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine... And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution. They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out... Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel. I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does... :ultra facepalm: Im not talking heavy vs heavy here, damm people learn to read Your pretty thick eh? like my god... If you don't even wanna talk about how it's balanced within its own class... then somehow its to weak versus other classes? And we just had the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors talk? And it's the Heavy class we are talking about? Just stop. And remove your Closed beta vet out of your signature... It's a joke. Oh im sorry, the fact that every other auit u wear does my cal heavies job better means its fine, please, go on. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1664	Posted - 2014.04.03 20:59:00 - [55] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoal wrote: :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine... And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution. They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out... Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel. I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does... :ultra facepalm: Im not talking heavy vs heavy here, damm people learn to read Your pretty thick eh? like my god... If you don't even wanna talk about how it's balanced within its own class... then somehow its to weak versus other classes? And we just had the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors talk? And it's the Heavy class we are talking about? Just stop. And remove your Closed beta vet out of your signature... It's a joke. Oh im sorry, the fact that every other auit u wear does my cal heavies job better means its fine, please, go on. Your full of SH!T. Go preach your utter bullshit somewhere else.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 157	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:00:00 - [56] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health. Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle... Don't blame the stunlock for your poor positioning, don't stand in the middle of gun fire, you can't possibly try to run the armor heavies the same as the shield heavies. I know a guy in my corp (Ace Boone) he flanks with his Min heavy! It works brilliantly. I'm a logi now! :D
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:00:00 - [57] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: sounds to me someone didnt bother speccing out core skills for shields.. im pretty sure cal sentinal base has alot more shields than that at base with shield upgrades maxed. plus its faster than amarr heavy and armor tanked gal heavies. unless u decided to put armor plates onto it. it should technically be the second fastest heavy.if not brick tanked. 1 extender 2 complex energizers for my adv fit Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
NEO Arbiter Red Hand Syndicate 92	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:01:00 - [58] - Quote Caldari Sentinel is BEAST with a burst HMG, rush in, annihilate, retreat, recover shields, repeat. Don't try to "Stand and deliver" instead do bursts of destruction + cover and shield management. Tears4Life
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:01:00 - [59] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health. Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle... Don't blame the stunlock for your poor positioning, don't stand in the middle of gun fire, you can't possibly try to run the armor heavies the same as the shield heavies. I know a guy in my corp (Ace Boone) he flanks with his Min heavy! It works brilliantly. yawn im tired of people assuming im standing way out in the open like a ****** Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:03:00 - [60] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Bethhy wrote: jerrmy12 kahoal wrote: :super facepalm: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine... And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution. They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out... Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel. I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does... :ultra facepalm: Im not talking heavy vs heavy here, damm people learn to read Your pretty thick eh? like my god... If you don't even wanna talk about how it's balanced within its own class... then somehow its to weak versus other classes? And we just had the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors talk? And it's the Heavy class we are talking about? Just stop. And remove your Closed beta vet out of your signature... It's a joke. Oh im sorry, the fact that every other suit I wear does my cal heavies job better means its fine, please, go on. Your full of SH!T. Go preach your utter bullshit somewhere else. [/quote] Typo's, typo's everywhere Fixed Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears

emtbraincase RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 92	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:05:00 - [61] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak You do realize that all the things you specifically mentioned (highlighted for emphasis) are all items listed a week in advance by the devs before you even had a chance to put SP into that suit. So please explain to me how this is anything but your fault for picking a a suit that doesn't fit your playstyle. I hear this: 1) CCP releases stats showing CalSent was going to be slow, with VERY limited tanking ability due to slot layout and module cost/penalties. 2) you want a tank, so you spec into, after a week of examining the racial abilites, a ..........CalSent. 3) Suit doesn't do what you want, but does EXACTLY what it says it will. 4) Complain on forums that the suit isn't good, simply because you can't use it correctly. Suit variety often leads to misconceptions. Just cause you CAN put anything together on a suit, doesn't mean it will actually BE as effective as putting those same items on ANOTHER suit.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:06:00 - [62] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Im talking CALDARI here The problem I have is its slow, low hp, weak tank, and the hmg or hugging cover is the only thing going for it Equip rr? Heavies Equip hmg? You better hope you can shoot people first, as your too slow to get to cover and regen or you go down to say, a rr because its hih damage basically ignores shield penalty The problem is at lvl 5 it feels really weak You do realize that all the things you specifically mentioned (highlighted for emphasis) are all items listed a week in advance by the devs before you even had a chance to put SP into that suit. So please explain to me how this is anything but your fault for picking a a suit that doesn't fit your playstyle. I hear this: 1) CCP releases stats showing CalSent was going to be slow, with VERY limited tanking ability due to slot layout and module cost/penalties. 2) you want a tank, so you spec into, after a week of examining the racial abilites, a ..........CalSent. 3) Suit doesn't do what you want, but does EXACTLY what it says it will. 4) Complain on forums that the suit isn't good, simply because you can't use it correctly. Suit variety often leads to misconceptions. Just cause you CAN put anything together on a suit, doesn't mean it will actually BE as effective as putting those same items on ANOTHER suit. People keep saying "Herp derp long range forge herp derp" Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 81	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:07:00 - [63] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:09:00 - [64] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel. Exept I dont like small rails And that lav thing, heavy is so weak I usualy have to hop in riht after I get out but whatever that part is fine Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
emtbraincase RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 92	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:09:00 - [65] - Quote Sorry, but all I said was you made a poor suit choice and are blaming the suit. If you try to Logi with a scout it is possible, but you will never be as effective as using a logi suit. You want to play a certain way, but the suit is not designed to do that. Better example, you don't drag race with a tractor, unless everyone else is in a tractor.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 157	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:10:00 - [66] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health. Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle... Don't blame the stunlock for your poor positioning, don't stand in the middle of gun fire, you can't possibly try to run the armor heavies the same as the shield heavies. I know a guy in my corp (Ace Boone) he flanks with his Min heavy! It works brilliantly. yawn im tired of people assuming im standing way out in the open like a ****** If you would be using cover as you're supposed to you would not be having this problem. Also... I'm rather curious as to what curse word that needs to be *'d out means standing out in the open. I'm a logi now! :D
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5467	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:10:00 - [67] - Quote Maybe your playstyle just isn't meant for the Caldari Sentinel? *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:11:00 - [68] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health. Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle... Don't blame the stunlock for your poor positioning, don't stand in the middle of gun fire, you can't possibly try to run the armor heavies the same as the shield heavies. I know a guy in my corp (Ace Boone) he flanks with his Min heavy! It works brilliantly. yawn im tired of people assuming im standing way out in the open like a ****** If you would be using cover as you're supposed to you would not be having this problem. Also... I'm rather curious as to what curse word that needs to be *'d out means standing out in the open. The blanked out word was re ta r d Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:12:00 - [69] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Maybe your playstyle just isn't meant for the Caldari Sentinel? It is, im all caldari, but I will try the burst hmg now Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 157	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:14:00 - [70] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: The blanked out word was re ta r d Huh, I had no idea that was a curse word rather than a serious disability. I'm a logi now! :D

jerrmy12 kahoalii 865	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:16:00 - [71] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: The blanked out word was re ta r d Huh, I had no idea that was a curse word rather than a serious disability. I was saying im not a ****** Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
see see-pee A.O.D. VP Gaming Alliance 12	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:17:00 - [72] - Quote I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub[/quote] your full of sh!t like baby diapers... that min hev suit is garbage.. I have proto cal,gal,& amarr... but no min... in reality .. min is the worst race in the game.. they absolutely SUCK... so those 30 kills u claim .. must of been a days worth accumulated ... cuz there no one who could get 30 kills with a min .. not when 2 scout shotgun shots can kill it.. or 2 6kin bursts can melt it away.. did u go back to the academy ? that's the only place a min hev could get over 15 kills ... sorry... fuccking liar! See See-Pee On U Fools~ see see-pee or not to pee ... that's the question
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 157	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:18:00 - [73] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: The blanked out word was re ta r d Huh, I had no idea that was a curse word rather than a serious disability. I was saying im not a ****** Profanity is usually what is behind the *s. I'm a logi now! :D
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 81	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:24:00 - [74] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel. Exept I dont like small rails And that lav thing, heavy is so weak I usualy have to hop in riht after I get out but whatever that part is fine Do you even shield bruh? Babby aint maxed his shields? Maybe babby needs to lift some rails get buff.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 866	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:25:00 - [75] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel. Exept I dont like small rails And that lav thing, heavy is so weak I usualy have to hop in riht after I get out but whatever that part is fine Do you even shield bruh? Babby aint maxed his shields? Maybe babby needs to lift some rails get buff. I have complex everything shiekd related... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 81	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:36:00 - [76] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I have complex everything shield related... Brother, you should be postin' up at least 721.5 shield brother. You feel me brother? You're not posin' are ya brother? Brother?
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1678	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:43:00 - [77] - Quote it's interesting that you use a scout as a point of comparison. scout and heavy playstyles are so different that you might just be a better scout than you are a heavy. the heavies seem to be adamant in their statement that the cal heavy isn't up. I'm not heavy and suck horribly with them so i really can't pass judgement on you or any non light suit but but it seems that you are in the minority with your opinion. how does the cal heavy compare to other heavy frames? the sentiment seems to be that it isn't spectacular but it's still acceptable. from the glance i took at the cal heavy it looks like an active tank would fit it nicely. using the 1 second recharge delay max out it's recharge amount and speed it could be nasty to deal with. if you gave up the stand and deliver mentality of armor tanking and instead focused on staying close to cover and using the cover to pull fast regen that might be a very good tactic with the suit. it wouldn't have the ehp to go toe to toe with tanky med frames or armor heavies but it would regen it's ehp faster giving it a leg up. but then me fitting heavies is like me picking race horses, I have no idea what I'm doing. GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1678	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:45:00 - [78] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I have complex everything shield related... Brother, you should be postin' up at least 721.5 shield brother. You feel me brother? You're not posin' are ya brother? Brother? HEY BROTHER! GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 170	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:48:00 - [79] - Quote Do you remember the fact that the Sentinel and the scout have two completely different roles? Do you remember that shield builds are better for hit and hide? Do you use cover often? Do you run medium-long range weapons? Do you even caldari? If the answer to any of these questions is no, please proceed to another area. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:56:00 - [80] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: Do you remember the fact that the Sentinel and the scout have two completely different roles? Do you remember that shield builds are better for hit and hide? Do you use cover often? Do you run medium-long range weapons? Do you even caldari? If the answer to any of these questions is no, please proceed to another area. Yes to all Burst hmg niw Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears

Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 82	Posted - 2014.04.03 21:57:00 - [81] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: Do you remember the fact that the Sentinel and the scout have two completely different roles? Do you remember that shield builds are better for hit and hide? Do you use cover often? Do you run medium-long range weapons? Do you even caldari? If the answer to any of these questions is no, please proceed to another area. Slow Clap
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 170	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:00:00 - [82] - Quote well, HMG is a short range weapon. If you run a Cal sentinel, Try running a Scrambler rifle and use super speedy fingers to fire quickly and you'll probably still annihilate people. Or run a Rail Rifle. Heavy is a very particular class. If anything I'd recommend an armor repairer/plates combo for your low slots, And Extenders on your high slots for a sentinel. Sentinels are best built for Brick/Recovery combos. Don't run regulators those probably still stink. Also, LOL ace Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:06:00 - [83] - Quote Soldier Sorajord wrote: well, HMG is a short range weapon. If you run a Cal sentinel, Try running a Scrambler rifle and use super speedy fingers to fire quickly and you'll probably still annihilate people. Or run a Rail Rifle. Heavy is a very particular class. If anything I'd recommend an armor repairer/plates combo for your low slots, And Extenders on your high slots for a sentinel. Sentinels are best built for Brick/Recovery combos. Don't run regulators those probably still stink. Also, LOL ace Regs are necessary on it And lol scr, its the insta lose weapon vs heavies Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 170	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:08:00 - [84] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Soldier Sorajord wrote: well, HMG is a short range weapon. If you run a Cal sentinel, Try running a Scrambler rifle and use super speedy fingers to fire quickly and you'll probably still annihilate people. Or run a Rail Rifle. Heavy is a very particular class. If anything I'd recommend an armor repairer/plates combo for your low slots, And Extenders on your high slots for a sentinel. Sentinels are best built for Brick/Recovery combos. Don't run regulators those probably still stink. Also, LOL ace Regs are necessary on it And lol scr, its the insta lose weapon vs heavies Lol, You probably haven't used a ScR xD ScR is amazing ;) I remember 1.7 Nyain san. Boy, did they love their scrambler rifles. And they spam shoot, not charge shots. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 499	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:34:00 - [85] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel. Exept I dont like small rails And that lav thing, heavy is so weak I usualy have to hop in riht after I get out but whatever that part is fine Do you even shield bruh? Babby aint maxed his shields? Maybe babby needs to lift some rails get buff. That's no excuse . I max my shields and without efficacy , shields are garbage . You can talk tactic's all day but shields in this game are in a horrible state right now . Point blank ... since Gal's have armor rep , Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy ... hell players are lobbing for Minmatar's to have a higher shield regen and anyone who has played with the pre 1.8 Caldari assault knows what people are talking about as far as Caldari's and the present state . Shield regen is nothing if the regenerated shields are garbage = more of the same garbage . Few hit and there gone , no matter how many HP's shield's are at . Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy as a bonus . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Soldier Sorajord Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 171	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:36:00 - [86] - Quote If anything, Implement the same system that vehicles employ with their shield regen. That'd make them much more effective. Armor shouldn't have this, but the fact that they have lower rep/sec should make the difference. Click Here to set up a Character that will get an AR, SMG, and a Caldari BPO
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:38:00 - [87] - Quote Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ace Starburst wrote: I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity. Raik truck? And im not talking heavy vs heavy here, even thouh ive kiloed so many heavues with it, the problem is even at level 5, 626 shields or 702 feel weak even though its a sentinel. Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel. Exept I dont like small rails And that lav thing, heavy is so weak I usualy have to hop in riht after I get out but whatever that part is fine Do you even shield bruh? Babby aint maxed his shields? Maybe babby needs to lift some rails get buff. That's no excuse . I max my shields and without efficacy , shields are garbage . You can talk tactic's all day but shields in this game are in a horrible state right now . Point blank ... since Gal's have armor rep , Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy ... hell players are lobbing for Minmatar's to have a higher shield regen and anyone who has played with the pre 1.8 Caldari assault knows what people are talking about as far as Caldari's and the present state . Shield regen is nothing if the regenerated shields are garbage = more of the same garbage . Few hit and there gone , no matter how many HP's shield's are at . Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy as a bonus .[/quote] What exactly does that mean? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
SOGZ PANDA Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 61	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:44:00 - [88] - Quote The predominant problem with the cal Sentinel is purely because shields are absolute trash I'm still being taken out by basic rail rifles with 400/500 shields on a cal logi Whatever Brianna Beach says about me.............It's not true
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:48:00 - [89] - Quote SOGZ PANDA wrote: The predominant problem with the cal Sentinel is purely because shields are absolute trash I'm still being taken out by basic rail rifles with 400/500 shields on a cal logi And my cal heavy has 626 shields... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 500	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:49:00 - [90] - Quote I mean it's true and if you look at it like those who keep calling for them to " shield tank " , then efficacy is needed and that's a no brainer . Taking away a low slot so they can't " duel tank " did nothing but give them a shorter life sentence , take the medium frames for instance . If CCP would have removed that third slot from them , they understood that would have caused the suits to be imbalanced and NO ONE would have used them , ( And all I ask is for two low slots ) but it's alright for the heavies ??? They should be able to " stand and deliver " , even so if not as effective as most but without a extra low slot and no efficacy that means nothing . That suit shouldn't be designed to just one role , i.e. rail sniping ... it's a freaking heavy and making it a long distance heavy suits just sounds stupid . A long distance heavy ????? Quit making Caldari's seem like cowards and let us fight and brawl as well . Not some 1500 HP sniper . Hell I snipe and that just pisses me off to se someone sniping in a fat suit ( unless it's a commando ) it's just cowardly . They should have an efficacy bonus automatically . Efficacy + Shields = Caldari . Edit : What the hell is a Sentinel that can't even guard ??? You guard by being close to what you are guarding and since your big and slow , you should be somewhat of an obstacle . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .

jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:51:00 - [91] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I mean it's true and if you look at it like those who keep calling for them to " shield tank " , then efficacy is needed and that's a no brainer . Taking away a low slot so they can't " duel tank " did nothing but give them a shorter life sentence , take the medium frames for instance . If CCP would have removed that third slot from them , they understood that would have caused the suits to be imbalanced and NO ONE would have used them , ( And all I ask is for two low slots ) but it's alright for the heavies ??? They should be able to " stand and deliver " , even so if not as effective as most but without a extra low slot and no efficacy that means nothing . That suit shouldn't be designed to just one role , i.e. rail sniping ... it's a freaking heavy and making it a long distance heavy suits just sounds stupid . A long distance heavy ????? Quit making Caldari's seem like cowards and let us fight and brawl as well . Not some 1500 HP sniper . Hell I snipe and that just pisses me off to se someone sniping in a fat suit ( unless it's a commando ) it's just cowardly . They should have an efficacy bonus automatically . Efficacy + Shields = Caldari . Explain what you mean by efficacy please. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4603	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:54:00 - [92] - Quote IMO, caldari sentinels are the best if you know what you're doing. For forge gunning, at least. I'm from the weird side of the internet
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:55:00 - [93] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: IMO, caldari sentinels are the best if you know what you're doing. For forge gunning, at least. For forging or sniping, yes, but the hmg or rr one its weak, but im using a burst hmg now Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 500	Posted - 2014.04.03 22:58:00 - [94] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I mean it's true and if you look at it like those who keep calling for them to " shield tank " , then efficacy is needed and that's a no brainer . Taking away a low slot so they can't " duel tank " did nothing but give them a shorter life sentence , take the medium frames for instance . If CCP would have removed that third slot from them , they understood that would have caused the suits to be imbalanced and NO ONE would have used them , ( And all I ask is for two low slots ) but it's alright for the heavies ??? They should be able to " stand and deliver " , even so if not as effective as most but without a extra low slot and no efficacy that means nothing . That suit shouldn't be designed to just one role , i.e. rail sniping ... it's a freaking heavy and making it a long distance heavy suits just sounds stupid . A long distance heavy ????? Quit making Caldari's seem like cowards and let us fight and brawl as well . Not some 1500 HP sniper . Hell I snipe and that just pisses me off to se someone sniping in a fat suit ( unless it's a commando ) it's just cowardly . They should have an efficacy bonus automatically . Efficacy + Shields = Caldari . Explain what you mean by efficacy please. How on the previous pre 1.8 Caldari assault . The role bonus gave x amount of shield efficacy ( strengthening of shields threw the functionality working better ) and rounds fought to penetrate your shields since the boost made them stronger . I use to stand sometimes and take rounds , knowing that my shields were strengthen by that boost . I had no fear and that made me want to fight even more because of the functionality and the confidence that it gave . Now you get it a few time's and your shield's just drop . Yeah you have a regen rate but if they are weak them your reaping weakness to fight against strength , i.e. being attacked . Shield's are suppose to be the Caldari's strength but shields are weak and without efficacy they are garbage and to have a ton of garbage doesn't help in a battle unless your fighting " junk lords " but this is Dust and New Eden . That crap doesn't fly there . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:08:00 - [95] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I mean it's true and if you look at it like those who keep calling for them to " shield tank " , then efficacy is needed and that's a no brainer . Taking away a low slot so they can't " duel tank " did nothing but give them a shorter life sentence , take the medium frames for instance . If CCP would have removed that third slot from them , they understood that would have caused the suits to be imbalanced and NO ONE would have used them , ( And all I ask is for two low slots ) but it's alright for the heavies ??? They should be able to " stand and deliver " , even so if not as effective as most but without a extra low slot and no efficacy that means nothing . That suit shouldn't be designed to just one role , i.e. rail sniping ... it's a freaking heavy and making it a long distance heavy suits just sounds stupid . A long distance heavy ????? Quit making Caldari's seem like cowards and let us fight and brawl as well . Not some 1500 HP sniper . Hell I snipe and that just pisses me off to se someone sniping in a fat suit ( unless it's a commando ) it's just cowardly . They should have an efficacy bonus automatically . Efficacy + Shields = Caldari . Explain what you mean by efficacy please. How on the previous pre 1.8 Caldari assault . The role bonus gave x amount of shield efficacy ( strengthening of shields threw the functionality working better ) and rounds fought to penetrate your shields since the boost made them stronger . I use to stand sometimes and take rounds , knowing that my shields were strengthen by that boost . I had no fear and that made me want to fight even more because of the functionality and the confidence that it gave . Now you get hit a few time's and your shield's just drop . Yeah you have a regen rate but if they are weak then your reaping weakness to fight against strength , i.e. being attacked . Shield's are suppose to be the Caldari's strength but shields are weak and without efficacy they are garbage and to have a ton of garbage doesn't help in a battle unless your fighting " junk lords " but this is Dust and New Eden . That crap doesn't fly there . So basically damage reduction? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 501	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:15:00 - [96] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: I mean it's true and if you look at it like those who keep calling for them to " shield tank " , then efficacy is needed and that's a no brainer . Taking away a low slot so they can't " duel tank " did nothing but give them a shorter life sentence , take the medium frames for instance . If CCP would have removed that third slot from them , they understood that would have caused the suits to be imbalanced and NO ONE would have used them , ( And all I ask is for two low slots ) but it's alright for the heavies ??? They should be able to " stand and deliver " , even so if not as effective as most but without a extra low slot and no efficacy that means nothing . That suit shouldn't be designed to just one role , i.e. rail sniping ... it's a freaking heavy and making it a long distance heavy suits just sounds stupid . A long distance heavy ????? Quit making Caldari's seem like cowards and let us fight and brawl as well . Not some 1500 HP sniper . Hell I snipe and that just pisses me off to se someone sniping in a fat suit ( unless it's a commando ) it's just cowardly . They should have an efficacy bonus automatically . Efficacy + Shields = Caldari . Explain what you mean by efficacy please. How on the previous pre 1.8 Caldari assault . The role bonus gave x amount of shield efficacy ( strengthening of shields threw the functionality working better ) and rounds fought to penetrate your shields since the boost made them stronger . I use to stand sometimes and take rounds , knowing that my shields were strengthen by that boost . I had no fear and that made me want to fight even more because of the functionality and the confidence that it gave . Now you get hit a few time's and your shield's just drop . Yeah you have a regen rate but if they are weak then your reaping weakness to fight against strength , i.e. being attacked . Shield's are suppose to be the Caldari's strength but shields are weak and without efficacy they are garbage and to have a ton of garbage doesn't help in a battle unless your fighting " junk lords " but this is Dust and New Eden . That crap doesn't fly there . So basically damage reduction? I don't know if that's how you would want to term it . Efficacy made the shields function better , which made them more effective ... stronger so if that's how you would want to put it , then yes ... but Sentinel's get damage reduction and if your level five and still it doesn't have an effect then it's something wrong with that picture . Efficacy help the shield's function better which makes them stronger . It didn't matter .. like now with what kind of damage that one took .. it just help's the shield's to become stronger because they function better . Over all shield strength . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3915	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:17:00 - [97] - Quote You said this before. I disagreed with you then and still do. The CalSen plus a repper is a monster. Even if you don't have a repper, throw a armor rep on that bad boy and you can do some serious work on the battlefield. My CEO, Trenix, gets down and dirty with the CalSen Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2564	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:17:00 - [98] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: That's no excuse . I max my shields and without efficacy , shields are garbage . You can talk tactic's all day but shields in this game are in a horrible state right now . Point blank ... since Gal's have armor rep , Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy ... hell players are lobbing for Minmatar's to have a higher shield regen and anyone who has played with the pre 1.8 Caldari assault knows what people are talking about as far as Caldari's and the present state . Shield regen is nothing if the regenerated shields are garbage = more of the same garbage . Few hit and there gone , no matter how many HP's shield's are at . Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy as a bonus . Yep, because a Gal suit gets 50hp/s recharge on top of their armour regen - oh wait! Shield suits do shields far better than armour suits could ever hope! Why do people think for some reason that 500 shields =/= 500 armour? Arguably the 500 armour is less useful. And OP, you're a scrub. I've got a buddy who wrecks face with his CalSent. With HMG. I once saw him 2v1 a couple of other proto heavies (Amarr and Gal). I am reasonably certain that he only has HMG to four. ak.0 4 LYFE CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:23:00 - [99] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: That's no excuse . I max my shields and without efficacy , shields are garbage . You can talk tactic's all day but shields in this game are in a horrible state right now . Point blank ... since Gal's have armor rep , Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy ... hell players are lobbing for Minmatar's to have a higher shield regen and anyone who has played with the pre 1.8 Caldari assault knows what people are talking about as far as Caldari's and the present state . Shield regen is nothing if the regenerated shields are garbage = more of the same garbage . Few hit and there gone , no matter how many HP's shield's are at . Caldari should automatically get shield efficacy as a bonus . Yep, because a Gal suit gets 50hp/s recharge on top of their armour regen - oh wait! Shield suits do shields far better than armour suits could ever hope! Why do people think for some reason that 500 shields =/= 500 armour? Arguably the 500 armour is less useful. And OP, you're a scrub. I've got a buddy who wrecks face with his CalSent. With HMG. I once saw him 2v1 a couple of other proto heavies (Amarr and Gal). I am reasonably certain that he only has HMG to four. Because they're bad and lol better than armor 400 shields or more, 800 armor 19 hp/s or 900 armor 19/s for proto Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Vaux Karn The Mercenary Collective 47	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:24:00 - [100] - Quote Advanced Caldari Sentinel with 1 recharger and 2 energizers...that is how you set up for hit and run or cover to cover combat. That said, there is NO way to make a good tanked fitting at current, shields are just too weak...they need some kind of a buff, but that's tricky to do. Too little and it would be worthless, too much and then armor is screwed. Honestly, the best idea I have seen is still the suggestion that armor and shield mods should operate on percentages rather than fixed values, this would also bring scouts back in line which was the original reason for the suggestion. That's a bit off topic though, at current, the Caldari Sentinel is designed for short engagements (such as cover to cover or hit and run) or long range engagements (such as forge or sniper fits). If you build and use it for those types of engagements, it is pretty effective.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 502	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:25:00 - [101] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: You said this before. I disagreed with you then and still do. The CalSen plus a repper is a monster. Even if you don't have a repper, throw a armor rep on that bad boy and you can do some serious work on the battlefield. My CEO, Trenix, gets down and dirty with the CalSen Why do you people keep calling it a reaper monster ??? Where are the logi's to reap you . I rarely see medic's anymore . Players need to think about who they are talking to because sometimes the people that you are addressing do not run in a squad or strong corp but people talk like they should be able to relate but there are different levels . If it's dead before it can get reaped then what good is that doing ??? It doesn't have any sustainability on the battle field unless you do have a medic around and still that cut's into it's functionality . Heavies should be able to function on their own and be somewhat independent of logi's because they are not always around and are often the first targets on the battlefield . You can argue that one all you like . This one can't and no one can say otherwise . Not with just one low slot and no efficacy . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3917	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:28:00 - [102] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You said this before. I disagreed with you then and still do. The CalSen plus a repper is a monster. Even if you don't have a repper, throw a armor rep on that bad boy and you can do some serious work on the battlefield. My CEO, Trenix, gets down and dirty with the CalSen Why do you people keep calling it a reaper monster ??? Where are the logi's to reap you . I rarely see medic's anymore . Players need to think about who they are talking to because sometimes the people that you are addressing do not run in a squad or strong corp but people talk like they should be able to relate but there are different levels . If it's dead before it can get reaped then what good is that doing ??? It doesn't have any sustainability on the battle field unless you do have a medic around and still that cut's into it's functionality . Heavies should be able to function on their own and be somewhat independent of logi's because they are not always around and are often the first targets on the battlefield . You can argue that one all you like . This one can't and no one can say otherwise . Not with just one low slot and no efficacy . And maybe you should digest information instead of responding to trigger words that you don't like when someone has a difference of opinion. And if you read my post and digested it properly, you would find an answer to your "some people run solo, you know" response. That's why I said throw a Armor repper on it. With the shield delay recharge, plus a repper, you can do some serious damage. Unless finding cover and smart play is not your thing... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
NEO Arbiter Red Hand Syndicate 97	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:29:00 - [103] - Quote Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven Tears4Life
jerrmy12 kahoalii 867	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:31:00 - [104] - Quote NEO Arbiter wrote: Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven What about heavy vs heavy, it feels awful Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3917	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:35:00 - [105] - Quote NEO Arbiter wrote: Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven Tell that to the guy who made assumptions about my post without reading and comprehending it properly. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
NEO Arbiter Red Hand Syndicate 97	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:36:00 - [106] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: NEO Arbiter wrote: Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven What about heavy vs heavy, it feels awful Burst, take cover, burst again. Or if your feeling the pain, retreat, come back in 5 seconds when you have ALL your health back and waste em. Plus a direct burst fired at the upper chest of an enemy drop-suit will kill it outright, will do something in the ballpark of 1000-1200 damage in 1/2 second (due to most hits being headshots) Tears4Life
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 502	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:38:00 - [107] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: NEO Arbiter wrote: Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven Tell that to the guy who made assumptions about my post without reading and comprehending it properly. If I misunderstood you then I apologize for that but you were not the first person who made such a comment . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3917	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:49:00 - [108] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Michael Arck wrote: NEO Arbiter wrote: Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven Tell that to the guy who made assumptions about my post without reading and comprehending it properly. If I misunderstood you then I apologize for that but you were not the first person who made such a comment . You're right, I'm not. Does it mean its wrong? Does it mean we are just posting automatically generated replies akin to "HTFU" or "can I haz ISK"? No. Guys are sharing this knowledge due to experience. It's something worth considering. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1005	Posted - 2014.04.04 01:48:00 - [109] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could? Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage. Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER. Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight. Also... Git Gud? Um, no, its a cqc, its a damm sentinel with resistance bonuses, 1 type of tank, and an hmf... You do realise the CALDARI sentinel is not that well suited for using a MINMATAR weapon right? Caldari = long range, high alpha, relies on the constant knowledge of enemies' locations. Minmatar= mainly CQC race who rely on speed, high RoF weaponry and simply brutally murdering your enemy with blitz tactics.(note that they also utilize EWAR, and long range weaponry, but their forte is Autocannons) I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:39:00 - [110] - Quote What about heavy shield extenders! Btw hit and run doesn't work if you can't run lol G0DS AM0NG MEN Director 1.8 is going to be Heavy 514 they said... Looking around all I see are twig men

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5490	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:59:00 - [111] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: NEO Arbiter wrote: Guys, guys, GUYS! Enough with the bickering! If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant. They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats! It is a match made in heaven What about heavy vs heavy, it feels awful Stay at Range *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Cogadh Draco WarRavens League of Infamy 6	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:00:00 - [112] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Hoover Damn wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Are you crazy? I ******* love the Caldari Sentinel. I run it with a scrambler rifle even. Its weak is the problem, for a slow ass heavy sentinek its weak and barely stronger than my scout, its good sometimes but most if the time, insta death by rail rifles and the sorts... Every fatty suit is different. Caldari fatties are seldom seen because not many people know how to use 'em, or just brushed 'em away for Amarr or Gallante. The suit isn't the problem, it's the wearer. I've been bested by Caldari heavies because they stack on shields, not to mention they have natural HMG resistance and the HMG doesn't start shining until it gets to the armor part. Also if you try getting shield regulator mods and regen mods, you can hug cover long enough if you run outta shields, and in seconds be ready for another fight while your opponent is closing the gap thinking your gonna be an easy kill. Each fatty suit has it's strengths/weaknesses, I'd say Caldari is a good choice, if you know how to use it to it's full potential.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2575	Posted - 2014.04.04 07:11:00 - [113] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Because they're bad and lol better than armor 400 shields or more, 800 armor 19 hp/s or 900 armor 19/s for proto wut wut is dis evn I want you to build me a suit that has 900 armor and even 3 reps. I ran GalLogi from 1.0-1.7 and I guarantee that you cannot get 19hp/s using less than three slots. I could pull 17.5 on two slots and have about 500 armour, and hypothetically I could have gimped my fitting by stacking three complex plates for about 650 armour at the cost of moving as slow as a heavy. Now? It's literally impossible. I repeat, build me a fitting. I want to see a protofits link in your next post. Hell, I'll see if I can get my friend's fitting to emphasize your scrubbery. ak.0 4 LYFE CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
jerrmy12 kahoalii 871	Posted - 2014.04.04 07:16:00 - [114] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Because they're bad and lol better than armor 400 shields or more, 800 armor 19 hp/s or 900 armor 19/s for proto wut wut is dis evn I want you to build me a suit that has 900 armor and even 3 reps. I ran GalLogi from 1.0-1.7 and I guarantee that you cannot get 19hp/s using less than three slots. I could pull 17.5 on two slots and have about 500 armour, and hypothetically I could have gimped my fitting by stacking three complex plates for about 650 armour at the cost of moving as slow as a heavy. Now? It's literally impossible. I repeat, build me a fitting. I want to see a protofits link in your next post. Hell, I'll see if I can get my friend's fitting to emphasize your scrubbery. Proto gallente heavy....im talking heavies Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 359	Posted - 2014.04.04 07:17:00 - [115] - Quote Cal Sentinel is no UP. This is what a proper Cal Sentinel does. Follow me on Youtube
jerrmy12 kahoalii 871	Posted - 2014.04.04 07:27:00 - [116] - Quote Jade Dragonis wrote: Cal Sentinel is no UP. This is what a proper Cal Sentinel does. Yes ive gotton alot of kills too but 6 deaths as a proto heavy, shield amount btw? But I was saying alot of the times its weak... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 187	Posted - 2014.04.04 08:34:00 - [117] - Quote Cal sentinel is up and the Min is pretty laughable I applaud those of you who are half way decent with it. G0DS AM0NG MEN Director 1.8 is going to be Heavy 514 they said... Looking around all I see are twig men
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 738	Posted - 2014.04.04 08:40:00 - [118] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: ...until you come at them with a rail rifle. Then they giggle, reach into my stomach via my mouth, and break my spine. +1 for that imagery alone. Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 653	Posted - 2014.04.04 09:16:00 - [119] - Quote Truly hilarious OP. You don't know the strength and weakness of each race. Hell, you seemingly weren't even aware that there are differences. You aren't aware this is a rock/paper/scissors game. You believe the Heavy suit is a "tank" because it has the word "heavy" in it. You refuse to change your play style to match the suit, then complain it's the suits fault. I seriously doubt you are a closed beta vet.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 881	Posted - 2014.04.04 10:02:00 - [120] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Gelan Corbaine wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Forge gun is only AV for **** players, I use it for AP. Yea no im not gunna waste my 2.4 mil sp to LOLav Using the forge vs infantry is suicide, forge was nerfed too much \ Yup you are a bad heavy.......stick with scout . Exept im nit, did much better with amarr sentinel in a competitive environment than the cal heavy, low hp slow speed....regen but negated by speed and hitbox, or the fact that I play skirmish and dom and dont play cal heavy all day. Have you EVER thought that maybe the would be the better Heavy for you, If you like HP or have the feeling you can't survive with 1500+ ehP on the battlefield go and take and armor heavy and move like a turtle through the battlefield. Shield work different compared to armor. Every single shield stat cries this "Don't Use me like armor" As most have already teached you use your advantages decent tank with very fast innate repair. Deal damage go to cover rinse and repeat. The heavy is NOT an assault suit they are more point defense suits so stay close to cover that way you can take advantage of your fast regen...

Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 359	Posted - 2014.04.04 10:16:00 - [121] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Jade Dragonis wrote: Cal Sentinel is no UP. This is what a proper Cal Sentinel does. Yes ive gotton alot of kills too but 6 deaths as a proto heavy, shield amount btw? But I was saying alot of the times its weak... Shield is 935 ish. And six deaths is acceptable for a slow bulky suit. I was pushing the point. Heavies push well. Scares people when a heavy rushes them. Follow me on Youtube
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2577	Posted - 2014.04.04 10:21:00 - [122] - Quote Seems like my buddy has taken pity on you and sent you his fitting myself, totally independent of me :) But seriously, it's a very different playstyle to the other heavies. It strafes more quickly than most heavies do, owing to the lack of plates, and its rep makes it horrifying to fight in a cover-rich environment. It does suffer at CQC with other heavies, but that's to be expected given it's not got the enormous movement speed of the Min (relative to the other heavies, of course) or the sheer durability of the massive armour tanks that Amarr and Gallente can stack. Essentially, try strafing in and out of cover. Ten seconds to full from 1 shield cannot be scoffed at. ak.0 4 LYFE Give me a reason to dampen my Assault, CCP!
Nelo Angel0 RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 197	Posted - 2014.04.04 10:21:00 - [123] - Quote Riddle me this guys. the Gal sent has a movement speed of 3.85 the Cal sent has a movement speed of 3.85..... why?
Nelo Angel0 RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 197	Posted - 2014.04.04 10:27:00 - [124] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Seems like my buddy has taken pity on you and sent you his fting myself, totally independent of me :) But seriously, it's a very different playstyle to the other heavies. It strafes more quickly than most heavies do, owing to the lack of plates, and its rep makes it horrifying to fight in a cover-rich environment. It does suffer at CQC with other heavies, but that's to be expected given it's not got the enormous movement speed of the Min (relative to the other heavies, of course) or the sheer durability of the massive armour tanks that Amarr and Gallente can stack. Essentially, try strafing in and out of cover. Ten seconds to full from 1 shield cannot be scoffed at. the assault HMG and the Cal heavy could probably work really well together. Make it a long distance heavy with 2 shield extenders ( complex derp ) 2 complex energizers and a complex regulator. Stick your long distance HMG of choice and a flux and watch as you outrange other heavies. Problem with the build though is that everything else, mag sec too, can still kill you and you'll probably die trying to fight back. But in that case this is why your running the regulator and energizers for. As soon as your shield goes down you hide behind cover and get all your shields back. armor is just there to make you last 1sec longer after your shields are gone so you can run and get them back.
WARxion ForDUST Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 6	Posted - 2014.04.04 10:49:00 - [125] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: calisk galern wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Get good? Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. it's average, he's not wrong though scouts are far mroe survivable then the cal sentinel atm, but that's due to cloaking speed, and just being all around amazing. My fit has 626 shields, now im not going to be hugging cover 24/7, but ccp needs to look at buffing the shields of it somehow, hp, or passive regen....idk And there is your problem! The Caldari Sentinel is awesome, with 0.8 depleted recharge delay and 80+HP/s recharge it's a beast. Yes, the Amarr and Gallente has more Armor HP but they will never recover like you do if you manage to get to cover. You NEED to use cover, oh my... it's such a basic tactic.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5497	Posted - 2014.04.04 11:00:00 - [126] - Quote Nelo Angel0 wrote: Riddle me this guys. the Gal sent has a movement speed of 3.85 the Cal sent has a movement speed of 3.85..... why? uhhh, because its Gallente? Seriously people need to be better educated in this game. In order from fastest to slowest: Minmitar, Gallente, Caldari, Amarr. Armor doesnt mean slow, at least not in EVE. It seems Ccp is now recovering from the omni purpose Caldari era. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Nestil uptown456 Proficiency V. 134	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:16:00 - [127] - Quote see see-pee wrote: I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub your full of sh!t like baby diapers... that min hev suit is garbage.. I have proto cal,gal,& amarr... but no min... in reality .. min is the worst race in the game.. they absolutely SUCK... so those 30 kills u claim .. must of been a days worth accumulated ... cuz there no one who could get 30 kills with a min .. not when 2 scout shotgun shots can kill it.. or 2 6kin bursts can melt it away.. did u go back to the academy ? that's the only place a min hev could get over 15 kills ... sorry... fuccking liar![/quote] yesterday I saw a militia min heavy go 19/1 and next game 26/5...sooo it's possible. but he was probably smart enough not to go against other heavies head on! and he was freaking fast too....and he used a Std hmg....
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 301	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:23:00 - [128] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Gtfo you fucken scrub you went 19-0 last night with it and your team STILL lost in ambush. We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 504	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:49:00 - [129] - Quote After using it for the first day , I'm starting to like it and I'm only level two . Those who speak of cover are right . It should be a little faster though seeing as how you can not armor tank . I haven't gotten into any toe to toe matches as how I looked at the advice given in this post and used that . Thanks to all who had given pointers on using this role . I still believe that Caldari's should automatically get shield efficacy as their bonus for obvious ( since they are forced to shield tank ) reasons . If that was the case then all would be better but I'm still working on it . Like I said , you really can't tell about a role bonus until you get to advanced in a role so theirs still more work for me to do . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. 94	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:27:00 - [130] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle... I've never really had a problem with that. Try to stay near cover at all times. Only maneuver out of cover when it's clear or you have no other option. You will have ample time to react and get into cover if you stay near it, unlike most other shield suits. "Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown

jerrmy12 kahoalii 875	Posted - 2014.04.04 17:50:00 - [131] - Quote axis alpha wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Gtfo you fucken scrub you went 19-0 last night with it and your team STILL lost in ambush. Hmm? Was it that one match where our blues kept dying and wouldnt stop? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears


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