Get good?

Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP.

...until you come at them with a rail rifle. Then they giggle, reach into my stomach via my mouth, and break my spine.

it's average, he's not wrong though scouts are far mroe survivable then the cal sentinel atm, but that's due to cloaking speed, and just being all around amazing.

Just sounds like ur a better scout than heavy i have both and its not about ehp its about recharge. Amarr wait years to get bk into the fight a cal seconds. I wear the enermy down they cant do that with me try altering ur fit or use it for situationaly cover/suppresion is our friend. I hope u find peace with ur dropsuit.

Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could?

Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage.
Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER.
Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight.

Also... Git Gud?

This evidence isn't permissible, as it is an anecdote.

It's far more likely that your performing better with the Caldari Scout because it better suits your playstyle.

Forge gun, the long range weapon, is caldari, use it.

Let me guess..you're running extenders?

Maybe you caldari shouldn't be trying to CQC own like you thunk you could?

Caldari specialize into LONG RANGE damage.
Calsent needs to either have a RR or SNIPER.
Don't try pulling that BS CalAssault **** where you circle strafe and 360 wallshoot killing everything in sight.

Also... Git Gud?

Forge gun is only AV for **** players, I use it for AP.

You're just ****. Get good

If your trying to go toe to toe with a Gallente or Amarr heavy with a Caldari Heavy... You kinda deserve to get face stomped.


Learn the strengths and weaknesses of the suits.. Because Caldari Sentinel is really strong used right.... Just like the Gallente Sentinel is weak if used wrong.


People say the Assault suits are UP... Yet Kalante runs a Gal Assault...

People say the Min commando is UP... But Alldin runs it...



You guys ..... Are just confused... And frankly immensely un informed...

Or generally Dont understand the concept of Rock, Paper, Scissors...

Which is how CCP builds balance.

I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub

This. Anti-infantry blapping works great if you can aim.

Tank isn't everything, you're ****, get good, stop QQing

Shields in CCP games have NEVER yielded large values... The mere assumption is hilarious....

If you can't figure out the HMG is left with the general Damage it deals until we release the Heavy weapon Variants that are sitting in DUST's source code right now? and you have closed beta vet in your Signature?

Your a poser.. Even worse claiming Min sentinel has a weak tank.... Like it's supposed to tank like a gal....

Even worse it seems a large part of this game escapes you.

This is becoming a thinking mans shooter... And it's scary to have to use thought... instead of just rushing in not thinking or... giving a **** CoD stylez.

Worse is you told Mossellia to get good.... He is...


Who the hell are you? A forum warrior?

Are you crazy? I ******* love the Caldari Sentinel. I run it with a scrambler rifle even.

I usually don't engage other heavies if I'm not in a good position to wear them down. In addition, it makes a particularly excellent hit and run platform with a decent rail truck as long as you don't overstep your capacity.

Then we get away fro you "feelings" and get to reality... Where people are running them in competitive environments just fine...

And clowning people who think they are weak with proper strategy and execution.

They have a big strength heavies don't get, Fast health regen... They also have a weakness.... Figure it out...


Everyone that has replied has pretty much told you this... And you keep arguing that they should be able to stand toe to toe with a Gallente sentinel.

I know it's a hard concept... But it works like that in EVE too... Caldari don't sit toe to toe with Gallente and slug it out... No race does...

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Yup you are a bad heavy.......stick with scout .

Bro, you had all the info in front of your face, but you decided to skill into the Cal Sent. Oh, and by the way, it's not UP, it's just VERY different than the armor heavy. With Cal Sent you DO have to duck and cover, cause as soon as you wait about eight seconds behind cover you're back to full health.

Your pretty thick eh? like my god... If you don't even wanna talk about how it's balanced within its own class... then somehow its to weak versus other classes?

And we just had the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors talk?

And it's the Heavy class we are talking about?

Just stop. And remove your Closed beta vet out of your signature... It's a joke.

sounds to me someone didnt bother speccing out core skills for shields..

im pretty sure cal sentinal base has alot more shields than that at base with shield upgrades maxed.


plus its faster than amarr heavy and armor tanked gal heavies. unless u decided to put armor plates onto it. it should technically be the second fastest heavy.if not brick tanked.

Don't blame the stunlock for your poor positioning, don't stand in the middle of gun fire, you can't possibly try to run the armor heavies the same as the shield heavies. I know a guy in my corp (Ace Boone) he flanks with his Min heavy! It works brilliantly.

Oh im sorry, the fact that every other suit I wear does my cal heavies job better means its fine, please, go on.

You do realize that all the things you specifically mentioned (highlighted for emphasis) are all items listed a week in advance by the devs before you even had a chance to put SP into that suit.

So please explain to me how this is anything but your fault for picking a a suit that doesn't fit your playstyle. I hear this:
1) CCP releases stats showing CalSent was going to be slow, with VERY limited tanking ability due to slot layout and module cost/penalties.
2) you want a tank, so you spec into, after a week of examining the racial abilites, a ..........CalSent.
3) Suit doesn't do what you want, but does EXACTLY what it says it will.
4) Complain on forums that the suit isn't good, simply because you can't use it correctly.

Suit variety often leads to misconceptions. Just cause you CAN put anything together on a suit, doesn't mean it will actually BE as effective as putting those same items on ANOTHER suit.

Stick a small rail turret on an LAV and go to town. You can take out or pin down small groups, plus you get to positions faster than a scout. Works best with Caldari sentinel.

If you would be using cover as you're supposed to you would not be having this problem. Also... I'm rather curious as to what curse word that needs to be *'d out means standing out in the open.

Maybe your playstyle just isn't meant for the Caldari Sentinel?

Huh, I had no idea that was a curse word rather than a serious disability.

Do you even shield bruh? Babby aint maxed his shields? Maybe babby needs to lift some rails get buff.

Do you remember the fact that the Sentinel and the scout have two completely different roles?

Do you remember that shield builds are better for hit and hide?

Do you use cover often?

Do you run medium-long range weapons?

Do you even caldari?

If the answer to any of these questions is no, please proceed to another area.

well, HMG is a short range weapon. If you run a Cal sentinel, Try running a Scrambler rifle and use super speedy fingers to fire quickly and you'll probably still annihilate people. Or run a Rail Rifle.

Heavy is a very particular class.

If anything I'd recommend an armor repairer/plates combo for your low slots, And Extenders on your high slots for a sentinel. Sentinels are best built for Brick/Recovery combos.

Don't run regulators those probably still stink.


Also, LOL ace

Do you even shield bruh? Babby aint maxed his shields? Maybe babby needs to lift some rails get buff.

The predominant problem with the cal Sentinel is purely because shields are absolute trash

I'm still being taken out by basic rail rifles with 400/500 shields on a cal logi

I mean it's true and if you look at it like those who keep calling for them to " shield tank " , then efficacy is needed and that's a no brainer .

Taking away a low slot so they can't " duel tank " did nothing but give them a shorter life sentence , take the medium frames for instance . If CCP would have removed that third slot from them , they understood that would have caused the suits to be imbalanced and NO ONE would have used them , ( And all I ask is for two low slots ) but it's alright for the heavies ??? They should be able to " stand and deliver " , even so if not as effective as most but without a extra low slot and no efficacy that means nothing .

That suit shouldn't be designed to just one role , i.e. rail sniping ... it's a freaking heavy and making it a long distance heavy suits just sounds stupid . A long distance heavy ????? Quit making Caldari's seem like cowards and let us fight and brawl as well . Not some 1500 HP sniper .

Hell I snipe and that just pisses me off to se someone sniping in a fat suit ( unless it's a commando ) it's just cowardly .

They should have an efficacy bonus automatically .

Efficacy + Shields = Caldari .

IMO, caldari sentinels are the best if you know what you're doing.

For forge gunning, at least.

How on the previous pre 1.8 Caldari assault .

The role bonus gave x amount of shield efficacy ( strengthening of shields threw the functionality working better ) and rounds fought to penetrate your shields since the boost made them stronger .

I use to stand sometimes and take rounds , knowing that my shields were strengthen by that boost . I had no fear and that made me want to fight even more because of the functionality and the confidence that it gave . Now you get hit a few time's and your shield's just drop . Yeah you have a regen rate but if they are weak then your reaping weakness to fight against strength , i.e. being attacked .

Shield's are suppose to be the Caldari's strength but shields are weak and without efficacy they are garbage and to have a ton of garbage doesn't help in a battle unless your fighting " junk lords " but this is Dust and New Eden .

That crap doesn't fly there .

Yep, because a Gal suit gets 50hp/s recharge on top of their armour regen - oh wait! Shield suits do shields far better than armour suits could ever hope!

Why do people think for some reason that 500 shields =/= 500 armour? Arguably the 500 armour is less useful.




And OP, you're a scrub.

I've got a buddy who wrecks face with his CalSent.
With HMG. I once saw him 2v1 a couple of other proto heavies (Amarr and Gal).

I am reasonably certain that he only has HMG to four.

Guys, guys, GUYS!

Enough with the bickering!

If you made the decision to run a Cal sentinel with an HMG, at least do yourself a favor and use the BURST variant.

They lend themselves perfectly to hit and run + cover to cover tactics.... Which is the whole IDEA behind the Cal sentinels stats!

It is a match made in heaven

wut

wut is dis evn

I want you to build me a suit that has 900 armor and even 3 reps.

I ran GalLogi from 1.0-1.7 and I guarantee that you cannot get 19hp/s using less than three slots.

I could pull 17.5 on two slots and have about 500 armour, and hypothetically I could have gimped my fitting by stacking three complex plates for about 650 armour at the cost of moving as slow as a heavy.

Now? It's literally impossible.

I repeat, build me a fitting. I want to see a protofits link in your next post.

Hell, I'll see if I can get my friend's fitting to emphasize your scrubbery.

Cal Sentinel is no UP.

This is what a proper Cal Sentinel does.

Gtfo you fucken scrub you went 19-0 last night with it and your team STILL lost in ambush.