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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:16:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Yes ive gotton alot of kills too but 6 deaths as a proto heavy, shield amount btw? But I was saying alot of the times its weak...
Shield is 935 ish. And six deaths is acceptable for a slow bulky suit. I was pushing the point. Heavies push well. Scares people when a heavy rushes them.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:21:00 -
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Seems like my buddy has taken pity on you and sent you his fitting myself, totally independent of me :)
But seriously, it's a very different playstyle to the other heavies. It strafes more quickly than most heavies do, owing to the lack of plates, and its rep makes it horrifying to fight in a cover-rich environment.
It does suffer at CQC with other heavies, but that's to be expected given it's not got the enormous movement speed of the Min (relative to the other heavies, of course) or the sheer durability of the massive armour tanks that Amarr and Gallente can stack.
Essentially, try strafing in and out of cover. Ten seconds to full from 1 shield cannot be scoffed at.
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Give me a reason to dampen my Assault, CCP!
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Nelo Angel0
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:21:00 -
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Riddle me this guys. the Gal sent has a movement speed of 3.85 the Cal sent has a movement speed of 3.85..... why? |
Nelo Angel0
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:27:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Seems like my buddy has taken pity on you and sent you his fting myself, totally independent of me :)
But seriously, it's a very different playstyle to the other heavies. It strafes more quickly than most heavies do, owing to the lack of plates, and its rep makes it horrifying to fight in a cover-rich environment.
It does suffer at CQC with other heavies, but that's to be expected given it's not got the enormous movement speed of the Min (relative to the other heavies, of course) or the sheer durability of the massive armour tanks that Amarr and Gallente can stack.
Essentially, try strafing in and out of cover. Ten seconds to full from 1 shield cannot be scoffed at.
the assault HMG and the Cal heavy could probably work really well together. Make it a long distance heavy with 2 shield extenders ( complex derp ) 2 complex energizers and a complex regulator. Stick your long distance HMG of choice and a flux and watch as you outrange other heavies. Problem with the build though is that everything else, mag sec too, can still kill you and you'll probably die trying to fight back.
But in that case this is why your running the regulator and energizers for. As soon as your shield goes down you hide behind cover and get all your shields back. armor is just there to make you last 1sec longer after your shields are gone so you can run and get them back. |
WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:49:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:calisk galern wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Get good?
Seriously though, cal sent isn't UP. it's average, he's not wrong though scouts are far mroe survivable then the cal sentinel atm, but that's due to cloaking speed, and just being all around amazing. My fit has 626 shields, now im not going to be hugging cover 24/7, but ccp needs to look at buffing the shields of it somehow, hp, or passive regen....idk
And there is your problem! The Caldari Sentinel is awesome, with 0.8 depleted recharge delay and 80+HP/s recharge it's a beast. Yes, the Amarr and Gallente has more Armor HP but they will never recover like you do if you manage to get to cover. You NEED to use cover, oh my... it's such a basic tactic. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:00:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Riddle me this guys. the Gal sent has a movement speed of 3.85 the Cal sent has a movement speed of 3.85..... why?
uhhh, because its Gallente?
Seriously people need to be better educated in this game.
In order from fastest to slowest:
Minmitar, Gallente, Caldari, Amarr.
Armor doesnt mean slow, at least not in EVE. It seems Ccp is now recovering from the omni purpose Caldari era.
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Nestil
uptown456
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:16:00 -
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see see-pee wrote:
I run min sentinel, lowest HP sentinel with no tanking mods, still go 30+ kills with it, get good scrub
your full of sh!t like baby diapers...
that min hev suit is garbage.. I have proto cal,gal,& amarr... but no min...
in reality .. min is the worst race in the game.. they absolutely SUCK...
so those 30 kills u claim .. must of been a days worth accumulated ... cuz there no one who could get 30 kills with a min .. not when 2 scout shotgun shots can kill it.. or 2 6kin bursts can melt it away..
did u go back to the academy ? that's the only place a min hev could get over 15 kills ...
sorry...
fuccking liar![/quote]
yesterday I saw a militia min heavy go 19/1 and next game 26/5...sooo it's possible. but he was probably smart enough not to go against other heavies head on! and he was freaking fast too....and he used a Std hmg.... |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:23:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies?
Gtfo you fucken scrub you went 19-0 last night with it and your team STILL lost in ambush.
We won't follow the deceiver.
You let this be your warning.
The path of the wretched is burning..
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:49:00 -
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After using it for the first day , I'm starting to like it and I'm only level two .
Those who speak of cover are right . It should be a little faster though seeing as how you can not armor tank .
I haven't gotten into any toe to toe matches as how I looked at the advice given in this post and used that .
Thanks to all who had given pointers on using this role .
I still believe that Caldari's should automatically get shield efficacy as their bonus for obvious ( since they are forced to shield tank ) reasons .
If that was the case then all would be better but I'm still working on it . Like I said , you really can't tell about a role bonus until you get to advanced in a role so theirs still more work for me to do .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:27:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Exwpt I cant if im slow or the stunlocks slow me down or you know, a rail rifle...
I've never really had a problem with that.
Try to stay near cover at all times. Only maneuver out of cover when it's clear or you have no other option. You will have ample time to react and get into cover if you stay near it, unlike most other shield suits.
"Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:50:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:I get more kills and die less in my scout suit with a basic magsec....man ccp when will you buff shield heavies? Gtfo you fucken scrub you went 19-0 last night with it and your team STILL lost in ambush.
Hmm? Was it that one match where our blues kept dying and wouldnt stop?
Closed beta vet
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