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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
641
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:13:00 -
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We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9187
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:14:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
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Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
317
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:15:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
That sounds like a great idea.
+1 to duna
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
641
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:17:00 -
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New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused.
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Sarus Rambo
Direct Action Resources
118
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
4/10 Troll.
This sums up 75% of the forum posts.
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Dingleburt Bangledack
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
103
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:18:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
This still exists?
My old CEO in Open Beta used this to keep his last few directors after we all started leaving... Obviously, Terrestrial Combat Officers didn't exist, but the same result occured from being promoted to Director then immediately demoted (and I'm sure it would work with any corp role).
Why is this still a thing? |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3275
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him. Duna corp members are taxes damn near the average tax rate, duna corp is set at 11%
It's not right right that people are not allowed to leave the corp but that stuff before it does not really make sense it's duna's corp hey can do anything he wants with the tax ISK if he wants to keep it for his tanks so he can.
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Dingleburt Bangledack
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
105
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:24:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Duna corp members are taxes damn near the average tax rate, duna corp is set at 11%
It's not right right that people are not allowed to leave the corp but that stuff before it does not really make sense it's duna's corp hey can do anything he wants with the tax ISK if he wants to keep it for his tanks so he can.
I highly doubt the taxes are the problem here. If Duna can get away with taking new player taxes for himself, and those new players don't realise it, well... good on him. Welcome to New Eden and all that.
But when those players wise up to Duna's "scam" and try to leave but are kept in the corp against their will, that's when the problem rises. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4810
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:24:00 -
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lolCCP
( ._.) <('.'<)
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
2937
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:25:00 -
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Lol, its bad but good game duna hahahahaha.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
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darkiller240
WarRavens League of Infamy
694
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him. No its not a scam it would be if you were able to leave
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1260
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:29:00 -
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If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. |
Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
297
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:34:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
Send in a petition reporting this. Preventing people from leaving the corp is a clear abuse of game mechanics.
Its really sad to see things like this happen. EVE used to be like this, before the player base wised up and realized they should be doing all they could to help new players. I think the strong support the EVE community gives new players is one of the key reasons why EVE keeps growing year to year. I had hoped that culture would carry over to DUST... Quite the opposite.
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Rusty Shallows
1372
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:38:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. When did that change?
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
316
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:40:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. I bet they only get less than 1 second window per 24h to relinquish their roles so that's kinda tough to do.
Rusty Shallows wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. When did that change? Not sure when but I can confirm this, if you relinquish your roles yourself you don't have to wait, at least my alt didn't have to.
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
654
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:40:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp.
Yes you do. From the moment you relinquish your roles you have a 24 hr grace period. Which duna then promotes you in. Meaning you need to wait another 24 hrs. Rinse and repeat.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
855
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:44:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yes you do. From the moment you relinquish your roles you have a 24 hr grace period. Which duna then promotes you in. Meaning you need to wait another 24 hrs. Rinse and repeat. Tell people to send duna hatemail or tell him to play fw so then can deatroy his tank and quit matchea before they are over to make isk
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Death Shadow117
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
31
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:45:00 -
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or or they could just click leave on theirself to leave the corp
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1260
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:47:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yes you do. From the moment you relinquish your roles you have a 24 hr grace period. Which duna then promotes you in. Meaning you need to wait another 24 hrs. Rinse and repeat.
Are you sure? Many of my current corpmates were able to manually relinquish roles (via the corporation roster, not by applying to another corp) and it allowed them to join a new corp without having to wait.
I think the 24hr grace period only applies if you remove your roles by trying to apply to another corp, and not if you remove your roles manually through the roster. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2648
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:56:00 -
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file a ticket and demand that you are beeing removed from the corperation. Nobody should be forced to stay with that scrub in a corp.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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Denchlad 7
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:03:00 -
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The only thing wrong with this is not being allowed to leave once wised-up to the scam.
That being said, I left a corp a while ago that I was a Territorial Combat Officer in easily, relinquished roles, applied and was accepted immiediatly as a director was online; which contradicts my first statement somewhat. But hey, lolnewedenHTFUnubslel
Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 10 so far
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2564
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:07:00 -
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This happened to a number of people in my corp when we mutinied and left our original one en masse to form UNIT shortly after beta ended. You should be able to manually relinquish your title and get out, most of them didn't have to wait the full 24hrs either.
Either Duna is more diabolical than our old CEO (not inconceiveable but not super likely either) or they are missing a step. Afaik CCP actually improved the dust-side mechanics since it happened to us, so I suspect it's the latter.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14064
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:10:00 -
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I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later.
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO
D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN
55
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:16:00 -
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I believe recruits should be obligated or forced to stay in a corp at least 30 days. I'm sure some people jump from corp to corp and ask or demand for Isk. Very few are loyal these days and newer corps with naive owners are very easy to deceive and manipulate as we'll. I've been in the same corp or clan we'll over a year now and see very few playing Dust.
I'm looking to go to another corp soon if that does not change which I don't believe it will. I don't care how big it is, just want to see some loyalty and unity. Coming from a military family, that is very important to me. It's unfortunate that people have to take advantage of others in a game. Lack of character, integrity or both.
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
664
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:25:00 -
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I believe recruits should be obligated or forced to stay in a corp at least 30 days. I'm sure some people jump from corp to corp and ask or demand for Isk. Very few are loyal these days and newer corps with naive owners are very easy to deceive and manipulate as we'll. I've been in the same corp or clan we'll over a year now and see very few playing Dust.
I'm looking to go to another corp soon if that does not change which I don't believe it will. I don't care how big it is, just want to see some loyalty and unity. Coming from a military family, that is very important to me. It's unfortunate that people have to take advantage of others in a game. Lack of character, integrity or both.
Loyal Merc for Life.
Tech Guard would be happy to take you. We're a social teamwork based corp. I was on of the founders :) 1 year and 17 days and still going strong :)
We got a little community going on in Tech Guard :P
Anyway. This needs sorting. It may be that duna cant give out a role withiin that 24 hour. He may just be promoting straight after that 24 hours is up.
Another point to add. If your new then you wouldnt have a clue how to drop your roles manually and join a corp instantlt like some of you say you can. New people are currently trapped in there with no way of knowing how to get out.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3782
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:[quote=C Saunders]Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
Lol, "nothing they can do"?
Is there an EVE consititution that says they can't?
A scam is when you exploit people, not when you exploit game mechanics. All CCP needs to do is change how the system functions. They already managed it when they made it more difficult to AWOX by changing the PC entry mechanics, and that was far closer to being a legitimate tactic than this Duna exploit is.
No.
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1pawn dust
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:32:00 -
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This isnt a simple scam, a scam is something like a misrepresented transaction.
The Duna problem is really massive exploit that hurts new players, both new to Dust and new to how EvE works.
Academy is bullshit, games are tough when alone or without the training to even make use of the squad finder properly, new players wanna corp up and get good then this ************ traps them in a vice to feed his marauder losses.
Actually as many dickmoves that are in this game, PC lockdown being an obvious burning example, Duna is probably the only one i have a problem with.
I squadded up with a Duna member once with my main and the guy was basically begging me to teach him out to leave a corp, I should him how to do it, told him to get rid of his roles at a good time then bail out, and it left such a bad aftertaste in my mouth I was really so ******* angry.
People who exploit new members like this should just be straight up banned, also its on CCP to get the finger out and get the academy up to speed on properly explain corps and the roles involved with them, not every sad **** in the game checks the forums like us. Duna is a scrub and should be booted off the planet. |
Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1572
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:32:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused.
It's no ones fault except their own that they're duped into that crap. Look at the corp tax, ask yourself why are you in the corp, and realize you've been bamboozled.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3782
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later.
To condone means you approve.
No.
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Brolaire of Asstoria
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
233
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:34:00 -
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I thought u could just remove all roles and drop out...I joined Duna and his band of rogues a while back but I was having the little Isk I was earning at the time taxed out of existence. I took a break and when I came back I'd been kicked
By the way I don't think he's funding his tanks with the money. I've heard he has a vault like Scrooge McDuck and just swims in the Isk all day...
I hear voices all the time...
I just ignore them and keep on killing...
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2566
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:34:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I believe recruits should be obligated or forced to stay in a corp at least 30 days. I'm sure some people jump from corp to corp and ask or demand for Isk. Very few are loyal these days and newer corps with naive owners are very easy to deceive and manipulate as we'll. I've been in the same corp or clan we'll over a year now and see very few playing Dust.
I'm looking to go to another corp soon if that does not change which I don't believe it will. I don't care how big it is, just want to see some loyalty and unity. Coming from a military family, that is very important to me. It's unfortunate that people have to take advantage of others in a game. Lack of character, integrity or both.
Loyal Merc for Life. Tech Guard would be happy to take you. We're a social teamwork based corp. I was on of the founders :) 1 year and 17 days and still going strong :) We got a little community going on in Tech Guard :P .
Hmm.. so this is a recruiting thread now? 2 can play at that game! As I mentioned in my first post in this thread we in UNIT formed our own corp after being dissatisfied with the EvE-based management. We've been together since beta as well. You are welcome to join us as well.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14068
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:35:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:C Saunders wrote:New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused. It's no ones fault except their own that they're duped into that crap. Look at the corp tax, ask yourself why are you in the corp, and realize you've been bamboozled.
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
664
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:35:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:C Saunders wrote:New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused. It's no ones fault except their own that they're duped into that crap. Look at the corp tax, ask yourself why are you in the corp, and realize you've been bamboozled.
Yeah, they realize they've been bamboozled.
AFTER their trapped!
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
167
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:40:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused.
while i think this is wrong, i dont think we need to expand the player-base. Tranquility can hardly hold its 40k+ EVE/Dust players as it is. thats why they have problems with memory leaks.
and instead of putting it here, post this in the technical support/bugs section.
im glad my little brother didnt join duna now. stupid scrub.
he needs to be banned.
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
667
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Posted - 2014.04.02 21:44:00 -
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General12912 wrote:C Saunders wrote:New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused. while i think this is wrong, i dont think we need to expand the player-base. Tranquility can hardly hold its 40k+ EVE/Dust players as it is. thats why they have problems with memory leaks. and instead of putting it here, post this in the technical support/bugs section. im glad my little brother didnt join duna now. stupid scrub. he needs to be banned.
It wont get publicity in Tech & bugs.
Publicitu is in general discussion and this guy needs to be exposef. Think of the new players just giving up on the game due to one guys selfish attitude.
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Knight Solitaire
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
586
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:08:00 -
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How repulsive! How horrible!
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
289
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:15:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp.
Yep.
Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly.
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Sum1ne Else
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1075
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:19:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly.
This works guys..trust me, been there done it. I was a Director- remove all roles then quit corp, you are now a free agent!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14073
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:38:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. To condone means you approve.
looks up definition...
Thanks, SNAFU on my end.
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Samantha Hunyz
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
99
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:40:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. Can you clarify your text as it seems to be misleading. Do you condone a fix for the exploit, or condone exploiting the game?
When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14073
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:46:00 -
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Samantha Hunyz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. Can you clarify your text as it seems to be misleading. Do you condone a fix for the exploit, or condone exploiting the game?
As someone pointed out earlier (I blame TV) to condone is to accept morally questionable behavior.
After being enlightened to my grammatical ignorance I have corrected my statement. I am opposed to any form of force enslavement via use of ingame mechanics.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
689
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:46:00 -
[42] - Quote
Samantha Hunyz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. Can you clarify your text as it seems to be misleading. Do you condone a fix for the exploit, or condone exploiting the game?
I'm pretty sure the word he was going for was "condemn"
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14073
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:50:00 -
[43] - Quote
McFurious wrote:Samantha Hunyz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. Can you clarify your text as it seems to be misleading. Do you condone a fix for the exploit, or condone exploiting the game? I'm pretty sure the word he was going for was "condemn"
Cept that requires a power of mine and the ability to stop it,
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
1098
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Posted - 2014.04.02 22:57:00 -
[44] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:McFurious wrote:Samantha Hunyz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. Can you clarify your text as it seems to be misleading. Do you condone a fix for the exploit, or condone exploiting the game? I'm pretty sure the word he was going for was "condemn" Cept that requires a power of mine and the ability to stop it,
Not necessarily, it's just means to completely disapprove of something.
Anyway, back on topic, how long have they been managing this?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Fiddle McBums
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:20:00 -
[45] - Quote
wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
720
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:28:00 -
[46] - Quote
Promotions to new corp roles shouldn't apply immediately. After the CEO appoints someone for a new role, that person receives a notification and only after accepting the promotion becomes whatever role he's attributed. This should fix this abuse, i think.
em ta kool t'nod
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2549
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
I'd heard about the duna thing... didn't realise it was that entrenched...
Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP
I h8 vwls lso.
dwn wth nlglsh!
ak.0 4 LYFE
CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX
LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
723
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP
You seriously want people to decipher that?
em ta kool t'nod
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2365
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:30:00 -
[49] - Quote
Yagihige wrote:Promotions to new corp roles shouldn't apply immediately. After the CEO appoints someone for a new role, that person receives a notification and only after accepting the promotion becomes whatever role he's attributed. This should fix this abuse, i think.
An option to deny promotion, I like it.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Fiddle McBums
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u |
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
696
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:35:00 -
[51] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP
I think you're missing a few vowels there.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
3885
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:52:00 -
[52] - Quote
LOL! Welcome to New Eden...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Taurion Bruni
D3ATH CARD
217
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:10:00 -
[53] - Quote
considering you can just leave and go into a starter corp without waiting, I don't see an issue
Pilot // Scout
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
462
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:19:00 -
[54] - Quote
You stripped to the skin, but you still can not see beyond their own noses.
...sorry for bad English =)
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2106
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:22:00 -
[55] - Quote
C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
I think it should be enough to go on your name on the corp list and just remove all. Then, they can get out.
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Patrick57
Amarr Empire
6602
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:26:00 -
[56] - Quote
Everything you say is true, except you can just go into Corp > Members > Find your name > Remove all roles > Quit Corp.
This may be wrong, but every time I've used this, when I had roles previously, I didn't have to wait 24 hours.
When I'm depressed I cut myself.... a BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE
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GM Arcade
Game Masters C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:27:00 -
[57] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly.
Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation.
Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
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Patrick57
Amarr Empire
6602
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:27:00 -
[58] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u
When I'm depressed I cut myself.... a BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
405
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:33:00 -
[59] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. quick....catch it |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4747
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:44:00 -
[60] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u
HAHAHAHA , who is this sad illiterate little man?
we are civilized people here, please write correctly.
CLOAKS are Fine, stop the QQ and get your awareness and game , UP.
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
1240
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:49:00 -
[61] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u Somebody please get this kid hooked on phonics QUICK! If he loses any more brain cells he might simply devolve into mashing his meat hooks into the keyboard and then there will be zero chance of deciphering what hes attempting to say.
Translation from English to Fiddle McBums language follows: smbdy plz gt dis kd hkkd on phnx QUK! if he lzzz n e mre brn cls he mgt smply dvlv nto mshng hiz mt hks nto da kbrd n den der be zro chnc of dcyphrng wht hez atmptng to sy...hiojhsdoibgdz jklcxadkls;dfjklsjkadfshjkljjx,.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1209
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Posted - 2014.04.03 01:23:00 -
[62] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u HAHAHAHA , who is this sad illiterate little man?
we are civilized people here, please write correctly. These forums? Civilized?
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
840
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Posted - 2014.04.03 01:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
The Infected One wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u Somebody please get this kid hooked on phonics QUICK! If he loses any more brain cells he might simply devolve into mashing his meat hooks into the keyboard and then there will be zero chance of deciphering what hes attempting to say. Translation from English to Fiddle McBums language follows: smbdy plz gt dis kd hkkd on phnx QUK! if he lzzz n e mre brn cls he mgt smply dvlv nto mshng hiz mt hks nto da kbrd n den der be zro chnc of dcyphrng wht hez atmptng to sy...hiojhsdoibgdz jklcxadkls;dfjklsjkadfshjkljjx,.
I blame twitter, it has a generation of kids thinking it's okay to ignore the squiggly red lines under every word they type.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
139
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Posted - 2014.04.03 01:55:00 -
[64] - Quote
Zahle Undt wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u HAHAHAHA , who is this sad illiterate little man?
we are civilized people here, please write correctly. These forums? Civilized?
SINCE WHEN!?!?!?!?!??
...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it.
i eat babies
forum warrior Lv0
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
4946
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You can't seriously tell me you're unable to type in an extra ******* letter in each word? That's like...what? An extra .2 sec per word?!
**** man..
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 5 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
290
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:17:00 -
[66] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
The stasis period really needs to be removed. It is easily circumvented and only causes problems. Players not knowing the workaround being trapped is only one of the benefits of this horrible feature.
We recently had an unruly member who had been given TCO for a PFC match that could not be removed from the corp chat thanks to this. He was able to cause extensive problems while he sat there shouting profanities and attacking members with nothing to be done on our side due to the fact that someone attempted to remove him without removing his role first. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
36
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:30:00 -
[67] - Quote
Azri Sarum wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Send in a petition reporting this. Preventing people from leaving the corp is a clear abuse of game mechanics. Its really sad to see things like this happen. EVE used to be like this, before the player base wised up and realized they should be doing all they could to help new players. I think the strong support the EVE community gives new players is one of the key reasons why EVE keeps growing year to year. I had hoped that culture would carry over to DUST... Quite the opposite.
It is sadder seeing how many fuktards think this ok and funny.
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
569
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:09:00 -
[68] - Quote
General12912 wrote:C Saunders wrote:New players shouldnt be exploited like this. It will effect the playerbase growth if their just abused. while i think this is wrong, i dont think we need to expand the player-base. Tranquility can hardly hold its 40k+ EVE/Dust players as it is. thats why they have problems with memory leaks. and instead of putting it here, post this in the technical support/bugs section. im glad my little brother didnt join duna now. stupid scrub. he needs to be banned.
Honestly the only time I've seen Dunafish in a Match he was being killed.........& that is rare (Not the "Killed" part.....the seeing in a Match, but I suppose KdR Padding in dead Servers accouns for "LB Cred" nowadays ) I never once saw his name & thought "OH S**T!!!! This is gonna be a real thrilling Tank Battle!!!!!". It happens more like "Oh.....haven't seen that name in a while. I'll expect a Squad of AV Support.", & still come out unscathed (Mind you this was Pre-1.7, b4 Tanking became the "EZ-Bake Oven".......)
I rarely even play anymore so I'm quite "Out of the loop" on this issue, but if that PUBtard is in fact exploiting this "Lemming Farm" I'd have to say that his "Muppets" who sing his praises, like the good 'lil "Fluffers" they are, are quite pathetic in considering his ISK Gen "Legit Net Earnings" gotten through "Skill"...... I've never seen him PC/CB, Solo Q, switch Roles, nor attend any actual Competitive Venue. I honestly have more "Respect" for zdogg or.....*Gasp*.......IWS than this sloppy mess of Clone-Goo.....& that's saying a lot.
FYI he sent me a Recruitment Spamlicitation Mail once.....then on my rarely used Alts..... Sad, pathetic PUBtard is sad |
Espartoi
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:20:00 -
[69] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u HAHAHAHA , who is this sad illiterate little man?
we are civilized people here, please write correctly.
Civilized people my ass he is trolling.
So, one of your vampy boys came out with malfunctions.
Hail to all Winmatars. 07
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
70
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:20:00 -
[70] - Quote
Zahle Undt wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:Yagihige wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP You seriously want people to decipher that? wht? u gt a fckn prblm wit me. ill fck u up btch. fck u HAHAHAHA , who is this sad illiterate little man?
we are civilized people here, please write correctly. These forums? Civilized? can someone let him buy a vowel
Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
103
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP I'll buy a vowel! |
Espartoi
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:34:00 -
[72] - Quote
Venerable Phage wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP I'll buy a vowel!
So you feel pity for him?.
Hail to all Winmatars. 07
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
543
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
I'd throw a pokeball out here but I already have an Iron Wolf Saber.
We can pickle that.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3448
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Venerable Phage wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP I'll buy a vowel! It's the language of poverty. You could probably get a good deal on those vowels toward the end of the month. (He splurges on A's and O's when his check comes in.)
I GÖú Kittens.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1730
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:37:00 -
[75] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
Uh, say what? Not intended. CCP can easily fix this oversight. Nuff said. That is not scam based on mere ignorance. Abusing loopholes in the mechanics is allowing this.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
705
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:54:00 -
[76] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
How are the new players going to know how to get round the 24 hr block? They probably havnt a clue. Also when was the last time you saw a duna corp member on the forums.
You dont because the majority are new players.
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
5
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:22:00 -
[77] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP
u wot m8 |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
1176
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:26:00 -
[78] - Quote
My 2 cents = if u are forced to do something ur automatically a scrub for life J.S
31 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT
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Frost Kitty
Fatal Absolution
79
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:27:00 -
[79] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote: Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation.
Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
My CEO Zatara locked me in his basement and is forcing me to stay and play PC! Plz Help!!
Right Meow!
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SPESHULz
The Southern Legion
103
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:40:00 -
[80] - Quote
WARxion ForDUST wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP u wot m8
i think he wants to fight you bro. glass the cun...
Blood flows. Death comes. War rages
Maths is OP. Those numbers kill you
RedLineLove
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
710
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Posted - 2014.04.03 07:16:00 -
[81] - Quote
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:My 2 cents = if u are forced to do something ur automatically a scrub for life J.S
They dont have a choice. A new plauer wont know what a role is let alone how to quit their roles.
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Kash Tellan
Arrogance.
11
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Posted - 2014.04.03 07:40:00 -
[82] - Quote
Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard.
meh
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
655
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Posted - 2014.04.03 07:42:00 -
[83] - Quote
So duna is being banned correct?
I'd like a gm confirmation.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3092
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Posted - 2014.04.03 07:52:00 -
[84] - Quote
Auris Lionesse wrote:So duna is being banned correct?
I'd like a gm confirmation. GMs cannot discuss bans with other players.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2066
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Posted - 2014.04.03 08:05:00 -
[85] - Quote
This is very bad for the new player environment.
Other than that, I dont mind people scamming others.
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
290
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Posted - 2014.04.03 08:58:00 -
[86] - Quote
Kash Tellan wrote:Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard.
hmmmmmm
Sounds like fun............................ |
1pawn dust
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:16:00 -
[87] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
Where in the game do we find this info about tickets and how to submit them? Not being funny but its been a while since I was in academy and maybe missed it. I am of course refering to the majority of guys who dont use these forums and might not know what your talking about.
Free game, peeps download to see whats it all about, get suckered then cant leave corp because they dont know wtf is going on, think the game is a waste of time, Dust continues to balance its numbers with new alts instead of new blood etc etc.
Is there anything in the actual game that tells you about the actual game? Common GM start breaking some ass |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1149
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:24:00 -
[88] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard. hmmmmmm Sounds like fun............................
Imagine if it was possible (may be?). Imagine if we decided to do that. Just imagine. We all have some kind of sleeper alt characters, right?
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
929
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:31:00 -
[89] - Quote
Repe Susi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard. hmmmmmm Sounds like fun............................ Imagine if it was possible (may be?). Imagine if we decided to do that. Just imagine. We all have some kind of sleeper alt characters, right? No we don't
If God had wanted you to live, he would not have created me!
28
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
293
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:52:00 -
[90] - Quote
Repe Susi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard. hmmmmmm Sounds like fun............................ Imagine if it was possible (may be?). Imagine if we decided to do that. Just imagine. We all have some kind of sleeper alt characters, right?
*cough* may just run into you soon
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3232
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:18:00 -
[91] - Quote
Welcome to New Eden
Intelligence is OP
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ROCKO THE HELLHOUND
Ultramarine Corp
39
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:39:00 -
[92] - Quote
this sounds horrible - the average fresh player has no idea how to handle the options menu.
just imagine how someone like that must feel when they start a Dust courier, have a horrible time of getting stomped anyway - and then they are getting scamed out of who-knows-what-big-percentages of their battle earnings and just don't know how to escape!
that is actively sabotaging CCP's efforts to increase or at least maintain the playerbase's size, and then a GM writes "you can always submit a support ticket" (what is something those fresh players should not know about either - and it is also something that would only count in a PS3-exclusive game if you could do it from the PS3's own Kiddie-Browser out - and i am not sure if it is, CCP cannot be allowed to maintain that lazy, to out-source all issue resolves to "the infinite possibilities the web from a PC out helds available").
anyway - my vote goes for the implementation of a promotion-prohibition-timer as well, would make it impossible to get "promoted" more often than 1 time per 48hours, regardless of title or promoter - and like that the possibility for such Newberry-Murder-Attempts would be just gone... . |
Fiddle McBums
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:41:00 -
[93] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. ar u fckn kidng me? he jst sed tht th gy cldnt jon bcuz he kpt bcmng offcr. dwn wit duna. dwn wit cccp |
C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
720
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:14:00 -
[94] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. ar u fckn kidng me? he jst sed tht th gy cldnt jon bcuz he kpt bcmng offcr. dwn wit duna. dwn wit cccp
Lol. Would you like some vowels sir?
Anyway new players wont even know what a support ticket is. They may not even know their being kept againdt their will because when they apply to a corp they give up their roles BUT they wont know they've been re-promoted and will just think the corp they applied too doesnt want them.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
2943
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
C Saunders wrote:Fiddle McBums wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. ar u fckn kidng me? he jst sed tht th gy cldnt jon bcuz he kpt bcmng offcr. dwn wit duna. dwn wit cccp Lol. Would you like some vowels sir? Anyway new players wont even know what a support ticket is. They may not even know their being kept againdt their will because when they apply to a corp they give up their roles BUT they wont know they've been re-promoted and will just think the corp they applied too doesnt want them.
I couldn't help but think "I'll have a vowel please carol". Lol
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
Dust for over a year, gaming for over 18 and counting.
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THE SHR3DD3R
THE FOOTCLAN
3
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:17:00 -
[96] - Quote
Drop roles , quit corporation , done! |
Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
433
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:21:00 -
[97] - Quote
D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I believe recruits should be obligated or forced to stay in a corp at least 30 days. I'm sure some people jump from corp to corp and ask or demand for Isk. Very few are loyal these days and newer corps with naive owners are very easy to deceive and manipulate as we'll. I've been in the same corp or clan we'll over a year now and see very few playing Dust.
I'm looking to go to another corp soon if that does not change which I don't believe it will. I don't care how big it is, just want to see some loyalty and unity. Coming from a military family, that is very important to me. It's unfortunate that people have to take advantage of others in a game. Lack of character, integrity or both.
Loyal Merc for Life.
Extremely ******** idea. This is a game of free market capitalism. How loyal a MERCENARY wants to be is entirely up to him or her.
Your biased views shouldn't dictate the liberty of others. |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1150
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:25:00 -
[98] - Quote
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Repe Susi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard. hmmmmmm Sounds like fun............................ Imagine if it was possible (may be?). Imagine if we decided to do that. Just imagine. We all have some kind of sleeper alt characters, right? No we don't
Krisse!
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
726
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:30:00 -
[99] - Quote
C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out.
LOL im sorry sad but LOL !!!!!
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
462
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:12:00 -
[100] - Quote
100 nah! )))
...sorry for bad English =)
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
93
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:59:00 -
[101] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
I think you should consider making this clear in the tutorial to prevent future abuse.
"Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
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almighty warior
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:00:00 -
[102] - Quote
i have never heard of this guy and his tanks but they should do something to stop it. Everyone knows it wrong and that it aggravates people. What person would be dumb enough to ruin others game? |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
930
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:02:00 -
[103] - Quote
Repe Susi wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Repe Susi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Kash Tellan wrote:Why not send an email to all duna corp telling them what it really is, and include instructions on how to leave it. In, like, 5 languages. Can you send an email to an entire corp at once? I think you can. I's definitely possible when you're the corp's member, but that part shouldn't be hard. hmmmmmm Sounds like fun............................ Imagine if it was possible (may be?). Imagine if we decided to do that. Just imagine. We all have some kind of sleeper alt characters, right? No we don't *soittaa paranoidin*
If God had wanted you to live, he would not have created me!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2855
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:26:00 -
[104] - Quote
If you relinquish roles, and then go back into your members list, click on your name, and select Leave Corp, you will be instantly dumped into an NPC Corp where no one can give you roles. Then apply to the Corp of your choice from there.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1983
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:28:00 -
[105] - Quote
He lost a few tanks to me in a dom. He's really bad, compounded if he doesn't have the ISK to pay for tanks himself. It's sad he's the kind of person you complain about. All his tanks are built for infantry, not other tanks.
You're making it sound like the tank is to blame, rather than an isolated bug in a game exploited by a bad player.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
142
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:36:00 -
[106] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. My wife locks me in my room. Does that count?
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
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fragmentedhackslash
Krusual Covert Operators
237
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:37:00 -
[107] - Quote
Samantha Hunyz wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later. Can you clarify your text as it seems to be misleading. Do you condone a fix for the exploit, or condone exploiting the game?
Obviously an unintentional error.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
307
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:49:00 -
[108] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
So then CCP should give us an ability to directly attack the players in that corp to "free" his isk slaves! Your logic would be sound if this is included.
FAME
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Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
142
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:58:00 -
[109] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
CCP did not create a system to imprison players in a corp due to a loophole in the corp functions. CCP allows scamming through lies and deceit but always gives the player the option to listen or not listen to these liers. What the op has described is the ability to imprison the character with no way out. That is not a choice. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
743
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:53:00 -
[110] - Quote
Spkr4theDead wrote:He lost a few tanks to me in a dom. He's really bad, compounded if he doesn't have the ISK to pay for tanks himself. It's sad he's the kind of person you complain about. All his tanks are built for infantry, not other tanks.
You're making it sound like the tank is to blame, rather than an isolated bug in a game exploited by a bad player.
Lolwut?
I'm telling people & CCP what duna2002 is doing. I dont care what he runs. How the hell do I sound like I'm saying the tanks are to blame?
Hes trapping people in his corp and taxing them. They have no way of not paying that tax unless they leave the corp.
Which duna is stopping them doing.
He then uses the ISK hes squeezing out of the new players on his tanks.
Thats why you see him in a proto heavy in a fully decked out tank. If you kill him he just roles in another. The reason he can do this is because its not his money his using.
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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Nikka witagun
Inner.Hell
7
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:00:00 -
[111] - Quote
Stop being useless. Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation". |
C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
744
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Posted - 2014.04.03 17:03:00 -
[112] - Quote
Nikka witagun wrote:Stop being useless. Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation".
Its not me you pleb.
Its all the new players. Tell them that.
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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C Saunders
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
745
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:55:00 -
[113] - Quote
So we're not gona get a dev conment on this?
I just wanna know the if the devs are aware.
// Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
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Dingleburt Bangledack
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
156
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:04:00 -
[114] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate.
C Saunders wrote:So we're not gona get a dev conment on this?
I just wanna know the if the devs are aware. Believe me, I'm on your side here but...
Is a red tag not enough?
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Fiddle McBums
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:10:00 -
[115] - Quote
C Saunders wrote:Nikka witagun wrote:Stop being useless. Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation". Its not me you pleb. Its all the new players. Tell them that. I quiet agree with you chap. These new players that don't even know about the eve side or practically anything about the game jump on the first opportunity there is to get an edge to stop the stomping and to feel like part of a group, but little do they know, they are getting the **** taxed out of them with no way to escape. this is wrng nd pnishmnt neds 2 b mde sht, no mre vwls lft 2 spr. G2G bck 2 rtrd spk. |
Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:17:00 -
[116] - Quote
first of all lol
Is there really a bug/glitch preventing players to leave a corp??? If yes i don't you send a ticket or post it on the bug section ???? |
Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
293
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Posted - 2014.04.03 22:33:00 -
[117] - Quote
Fiddle McBums wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. ar u fckn kidng me? he jst sed tht th gy cldnt jon bcuz he kpt bcmng offcr. dwn wit duna. dwn wit cccp
Dude you wasted a "c" in cccp!!! All of that time and effort saving letters for a rainy day and you went and misspent one!!!
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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GM Grave
Game Masters C C P Alliance
358
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:09:00 -
[118] - Quote
GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behaviour aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. Hello Twitter & not entirely accurate News Reports!
Senior GM Arcade is correct in that the current design is intended to allow mercenaries free movement between corporations, should you have roles within a corp simply drop them and hop out should you chose to do so.
In such instances where you feel players are attempting to run the enjoyment of others or are otherwise misbehaving then simply get in touch with CCP via the support system or send an e-mail to [email protected] stating your concerns and we will do all that we can to assist you.
jenza aranda wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:So duna is being banned correct?
I'd like a gm confirmation. GMs cannot discuss bans with other players. Indeed, please be advised that any correspondence, action or inaction between CCP and a customer account is confidential. Therefore CCP are unable to disclose or discuss such information to 3rd parties.
Lead GM Grave | CCP Customer Relations Project Lead | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2373
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:19:00 -
[119] - Quote
I helped a guy out of duna corp with this information, until something is done send an email to every duna corp member you meet and explain how to do it.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Denchlad 7
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:43:00 -
[120] - Quote
I know a guy, Pheezen, hes in a lot of my channels and seems to be quite a nice guy. He plays a lot too, but hes always been in duna corp.
I fear for him.
Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 10 so far
If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2139
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:51:00 -
[121] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
Just inviting people into your corp to tax them heavily is one thing. Making sure they can't leave another. First is New Eden play. Latter is abusement. Because you can't do anything against this. You noticed it's a scam and you want to leave? Yeah, you can't because of an abusement of the game mechanics. That's one step too far.
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SOGZ PANDA
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
62
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:57:00 -
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To join another corp immediately first you drop your roles
Then you quit the corporation so you go back to npc Eg kinsho swords
That's how you beat the 24hr grace period
Whatever Brianna Beach says about me.............It's not true
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
523
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:00:00 -
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Nikka witagun wrote:Stop being useless. Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation". Could take a while to load and scroll through those 1000 members
The whole thing is repulsing, even for EVE standards.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
53
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:52:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Nikka witagun wrote:Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation". Its all the new players. Tell them that. I figured it out. Joined a random corp one day; decided the next it wasn't for me. Did exactly what Nikka said as it was very intuitive. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
414
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Posted - 2014.04.04 02:37:00 -
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I believe recruits should be obligated or forced to stay in a corp at least 30 days. I'm sure some people jump from corp to corp and ask or demand for Isk. Very few are loyal these days and newer corps with naive owners are very easy to deceive and manipulate as we'll. I've been in the same corp or clan we'll over a year now and see very few playing Dust.
I'm looking to go to another corp soon if that does not change which I don't believe it will. I don't care how big it is, just want to see some loyalty and unity. Coming from a military family, that is very important to me. It's unfortunate that people have to take advantage of others in a game. Lack of character, integrity or both.
Loyal Merc for Life.
they don't tell you this anywhere but lying, cheating, scamming and backstabbing are all part if the meta game of Dust and are to be appreciated if not admired.
Because, that's why.
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
569
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Posted - 2014.04.04 03:17:00 -
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LOL @ the amount of Duncecap Award winning Posts from OP Only Readers..........
PS: The vast majority of Newberries don't read the Forums, let alone file a Support Ticket..... 2 GMs just made me lol @ the sheer incompetence on display from an "Authority Figure". Is that how CCP's supposed "Grassroots" approach works? Expect a "Community" of Con Artists & Butchers to "Police" a Corp List, that is normally not obtainable without using means of infiltration.....vs having 1 Dev, who has easy access to both that Corp List & every other thing under the sun, work it out?
It doesn't take a friggin' team of statisticians, researchers, & expert hackers to figure it out..... This is why I'd rather enjoy the monotony of Payday 2, even waaaay after I Plat'd it......'jus sayin' |
Espartoi
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
168
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Posted - 2014.04.04 04:04:00 -
[127] - Quote
I don't understand why this is a concern if you are able to quit whenever you want...
Hail to all Winmatars. 07
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
460
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Posted - 2014.04.04 04:12:00 -
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This game needs more fixes than BF4 and that is saying something. It is in the nature of EVE to scam, but not to impede on a persons choices in game.
As for DUNA - He is just a sad sad man. Truly no words can accurately describe the level of sadness that person has stooped to in this game. |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
460
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Posted - 2014.04.04 04:15:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. I think you should consider making this clear in the tutorial to prevent future abuse.
They really should include information like this in the 'tutorial'. Ha - you can't really call it a tutorial. To be honest if CCP really gives a damn about this game they really should revamp the 'tutorial' into a proper one that actually teaches people the game and its nuances. At least in comparison to other shooters.
As per usual I wont hold my breath and will wait and see if CCP does have anything spectacular to announce at the fanfest. |
Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5425
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Posted - 2014.04.04 05:56:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behaviour aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. Hello Twitter & inaccurate News Reports! Senior GM Arcade is correct in that the current design is intended to allow mercenaries free movement between corporations, should you have roles within a corp simply drop them and hop out should you chose to do so. In such instances where you feel players are attempting to run the enjoyment of others or are otherwise misbehaving then simply get in touch with CCP via the support system or send an e-mail to [email protected] stating your concerns and we will do all that we can to assist you.
Way to call me out yo
Anyway, yes - the news report does need to be updated and I totally would do that if I could but that's up the main site admin
However, it's not exactly obvious that you can quit a corporation during the 24-hour grace period. That information, to my knowledge, isn't included in the tool-tip that is brought up when removing roles and I'd imagine this wouldn't even be a problem if it were obvious to the player that they could do it.
Useful Links
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1169
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:59:00 -
[131] - Quote
Slavery... in new eden!
Assassination is my thing.
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Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
377
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:17:00 -
[132] - Quote
GM Grave wrote:Indeed, please be advised that any correspondence, action or inaction between CCP and a customer account is confidential. Therefore CCP are unable to disclose or discuss such information to 3rd parties.
Not banned in other words. CCP truly have a soft heart for morons ruining the game for all the potential new comers. And as a veteran I cant believe I waited this long to quit.
But hey now I know what it feels like to spend more time at the awesome forums! |
Kelestia Colvolian
Betamax 2.0 INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
0
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:20:00 -
[133] - Quote
Most people don't know about the rules for leaving corps in EVE, let alone DUST.
I'd played EVE for well over a year and run my own corps for 6 months, but I didn't know that you could leave a corp in less than 24 hours until I bought a corp from this bloke. I wanted to move one of my alts, a director in another corp, to the new one and assumed I'd have to wait 24 hours. But unless this bloke had told me about the drop roles/quit corp routine, I'd still think it was impossible.
I think CCP needs to inform everyone (not just new Dust players) that it's the player's choice if he wants to leave a corp (regardless of roles) not the corp's CEO choice. |
Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
527
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:28:00 -
[134] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:GM Grave wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behaviour aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. Hello Twitter & inaccurate News Reports! Senior GM Arcade is correct in that the current design is intended to allow mercenaries free movement between corporations, should you have roles within a corp simply drop them and hop out should you chose to do so. In such instances where you feel players are attempting to run the enjoyment of others or are otherwise misbehaving then simply get in touch with CCP via the support system or send an e-mail to [email protected] stating your concerns and we will do all that we can to assist you. Way to call me out yo Anyway, yes - the news report does need to be updated and I totally would do that if I could but that's up the main site admin However, it's not exactly obvious that you can quit a corporation during the 24-hour grace period. That information, to my knowledge, isn't included in the tool-tip that is brought up when removing roles and I'd imagine this wouldn't even be a problem if it were obvious to the player that they could do it. Don't worry, that's just his way of showing you that he likes us. I got the quote wrong for example, should be GM Arcade and not GM Grave. I'll correct that and I will give you the necessary roles for editing. Anyhow, I am curious if this mechanic will be followed up on, seeing how nothing happened, not even a statement in regards to the clone reprocessing exploit a couple of weeks back.
Duna Corp has nearly 1000 members btw, go ahead and find yourself in that list (after it loaded). I don't expect new players to know all that. Most of them don't read the forums or inaccurate news sites.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
464
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:48:00 -
[135] - Quote
Strange that no one who knows the solution still did not send it to evil empire corpmail ))
...sorry for bad English =)
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Kratek Heshan
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
11
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:52:00 -
[136] - Quote
duna is no more on ambush heheh ^^ no more tanks |
C Saunders
Tech guard RISE of LEGION
873
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:17:00 -
[137] - Quote
Lolbump.
// Fully Specced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guard Director //
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APOPHIS Xxx
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
36
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:02:00 -
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Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP
Damn! Are you not ashamed of yourself? Shut off your PS3 and go back to school! People like you deserve to be scammed! lol
Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I cannot condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later.
Isn't this skimming the waterline and simply a polite way of saying "scamming the game system but since it's not about a combat but..oh wait those never get fixed anyways. But I'll be ever so enlightened and merely say this is DUST and only exists in the EvE universe; Dust514 isn't EvE and vice-versa. One is a sandbox~mmo and the other is an attempt at a FPS~mmo. If they don't mind killing their playerbase on a manipulation of game mechanics, then it says a lot.
And if it does help "Scamming" and "abusing of game mechanics" still share the concept of "cheating to enhance one's prospects". I don't mingle words and call it for what it is. It's a scam based on abuse.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
690
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:34:00 -
[140] - Quote
Kratek Heshan wrote:duna is no more on ambush heheh ^^ no more tanks
? I have seen Duna plenty of times in Ambush.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
156
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:19:00 -
[141] - Quote
Denchlad 7 wrote:I know a guy, Pheezen, hes in a lot of my channels and seems to be quite a nice guy. He plays a lot too, but hes always been in duna corp.
I fear for him. Pheezen is out of duna, thank god...he might be joining GCON here soon :D
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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