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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:C Saunders wrote:We all know about Duna and his tanks.
Duna corp is abusing the corp system. This is how.
Duna2002 spams messages to all 31 other players in the games he enters, inviting them to his corp. The new players who are new to the game, join his corp. The new players are taxed heavily to fund duna2002s tanks. Everyone made a terrestial combat officer so it takes 24 hours for them too leave. During that 24 hours they are re-made a terrestrial combat officer so they are eternaly trapped to fund dunas tanks.
We have an application from duna corp who cannot join us as he keeps getting promoted to terrestial combat officer. We also had a guy join us from duna corp a long time ago that says it wasnt a good corp they were just there to fund duna.
CCP, I think you need to look into this a bit. Its worrying what this could do to new players trying the game out. Sure its wrong....but thats his prerogative to scam....its New Eden. No matter how repulsive the action is there is nothing CCP can do to stop him.
Just inviting people into your corp to tax them heavily is one thing. Making sure they can't leave another. First is New Eden play. Latter is abusement. Because you can't do anything against this. You noticed it's a scam and you want to leave? Yeah, you can't because of an abusement of the game mechanics. That's one step too far.
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SOGZ PANDA
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
62
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:57:00 -
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To join another corp immediately first you drop your roles
Then you quit the corporation so you go back to npc Eg kinsho swords
That's how you beat the 24hr grace period
Whatever Brianna Beach says about me.............It's not true
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
523
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:00:00 -
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Nikka witagun wrote:Stop being useless. Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation". Could take a while to load and scroll through those 1000 members
The whole thing is repulsing, even for EVE standards.
Mercenary Log
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
53
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:52:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Nikka witagun wrote:Open up "my corporation", click "members" find your name, and select "quit corporation". Its all the new players. Tell them that. I figured it out. Joined a random corp one day; decided the next it wasn't for me. Did exactly what Nikka said as it was very intuitive. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
414
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Posted - 2014.04.04 02:37:00 -
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D3LTA ARM3GGIDDO wrote:I believe recruits should be obligated or forced to stay in a corp at least 30 days. I'm sure some people jump from corp to corp and ask or demand for Isk. Very few are loyal these days and newer corps with naive owners are very easy to deceive and manipulate as we'll. I've been in the same corp or clan we'll over a year now and see very few playing Dust.
I'm looking to go to another corp soon if that does not change which I don't believe it will. I don't care how big it is, just want to see some loyalty and unity. Coming from a military family, that is very important to me. It's unfortunate that people have to take advantage of others in a game. Lack of character, integrity or both.
Loyal Merc for Life.
they don't tell you this anywhere but lying, cheating, scamming and backstabbing are all part if the meta game of Dust and are to be appreciated if not admired.
Because, that's why.
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
569
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Posted - 2014.04.04 03:17:00 -
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LOL @ the amount of Duncecap Award winning Posts from OP Only Readers..........
PS: The vast majority of Newberries don't read the Forums, let alone file a Support Ticket..... 2 GMs just made me lol @ the sheer incompetence on display from an "Authority Figure". Is that how CCP's supposed "Grassroots" approach works? Expect a "Community" of Con Artists & Butchers to "Police" a Corp List, that is normally not obtainable without using means of infiltration.....vs having 1 Dev, who has easy access to both that Corp List & every other thing under the sun, work it out?
It doesn't take a friggin' team of statisticians, researchers, & expert hackers to figure it out..... This is why I'd rather enjoy the monotony of Payday 2, even waaaay after I Plat'd it......'jus sayin' |
Espartoi
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
168
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Posted - 2014.04.04 04:04:00 -
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I don't understand why this is a concern if you are able to quit whenever you want...
Hail to all Winmatars. 07
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
460
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Posted - 2014.04.04 04:12:00 -
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This game needs more fixes than BF4 and that is saying something. It is in the nature of EVE to scam, but not to impede on a persons choices in game.
As for DUNA - He is just a sad sad man. Truly no words can accurately describe the level of sadness that person has stooped to in this game. |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
460
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Posted - 2014.04.04 04:15:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behavior aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. I think you should consider making this clear in the tutorial to prevent future abuse.
They really should include information like this in the 'tutorial'. Ha - you can't really call it a tutorial. To be honest if CCP really gives a damn about this game they really should revamp the 'tutorial' into a proper one that actually teaches people the game and its nuances. At least in comparison to other shooters.
As per usual I wont hold my breath and will wait and see if CCP does have anything spectacular to announce at the fanfest. |
Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5425
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Posted - 2014.04.04 05:56:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behaviour aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. Hello Twitter & inaccurate News Reports! Senior GM Arcade is correct in that the current design is intended to allow mercenaries free movement between corporations, should you have roles within a corp simply drop them and hop out should you chose to do so. In such instances where you feel players are attempting to run the enjoyment of others or are otherwise misbehaving then simply get in touch with CCP via the support system or send an e-mail to [email protected] stating your concerns and we will do all that we can to assist you.
Way to call me out yo
Anyway, yes - the news report does need to be updated and I totally would do that if I could but that's up the main site admin
However, it's not exactly obvious that you can quit a corporation during the 24-hour grace period. That information, to my knowledge, isn't included in the tool-tip that is brought up when removing roles and I'd imagine this wouldn't even be a problem if it were obvious to the player that they could do it.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
1169
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:59:00 -
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Slavery... in new eden!
Assassination is my thing.
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Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
377
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:17:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:Indeed, please be advised that any correspondence, action or inaction between CCP and a customer account is confidential. Therefore CCP are unable to disclose or discuss such information to 3rd parties.
Not banned in other words. CCP truly have a soft heart for morons ruining the game for all the potential new comers. And as a veteran I cant believe I waited this long to quit.
But hey now I know what it feels like to spend more time at the awesome forums! |
Kelestia Colvolian
Betamax 2.0 INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
0
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:20:00 -
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Most people don't know about the rules for leaving corps in EVE, let alone DUST.
I'd played EVE for well over a year and run my own corps for 6 months, but I didn't know that you could leave a corp in less than 24 hours until I bought a corp from this bloke. I wanted to move one of my alts, a director in another corp, to the new one and assumed I'd have to wait 24 hours. But unless this bloke had told me about the drop roles/quit corp routine, I'd still think it was impossible.
I think CCP needs to inform everyone (not just new Dust players) that it's the player's choice if he wants to leave a corp (regardless of roles) not the corp's CEO choice. |
Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
527
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:GM Grave wrote:GM Arcade wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:If you relinquish your roles you don't have to wait 24 hrs to join a new corp. Yep. Select your name in members, drop all roles, select your name again, leave corporation, and you are free to go where you want instantly. Just to confirm that what is said above is correct. There is no need to wait 24 hours after dropping roles before you are able to leave a corporation. Debate about this behaviour aside, if any player feels they are being held in a corporation against their will then they are free to submit a ticket and we can investigate. Hello Twitter & inaccurate News Reports! Senior GM Arcade is correct in that the current design is intended to allow mercenaries free movement between corporations, should you have roles within a corp simply drop them and hop out should you chose to do so. In such instances where you feel players are attempting to run the enjoyment of others or are otherwise misbehaving then simply get in touch with CCP via the support system or send an e-mail to [email protected] stating your concerns and we will do all that we can to assist you. Way to call me out yo Anyway, yes - the news report does need to be updated and I totally would do that if I could but that's up the main site admin However, it's not exactly obvious that you can quit a corporation during the 24-hour grace period. That information, to my knowledge, isn't included in the tool-tip that is brought up when removing roles and I'd imagine this wouldn't even be a problem if it were obvious to the player that they could do it. Don't worry, that's just his way of showing you that he likes us. I got the quote wrong for example, should be GM Arcade and not GM Grave. I'll correct that and I will give you the necessary roles for editing. Anyhow, I am curious if this mechanic will be followed up on, seeing how nothing happened, not even a statement in regards to the clone reprocessing exploit a couple of weeks back.
Duna Corp has nearly 1000 members btw, go ahead and find yourself in that list (after it loaded). I don't expect new players to know all that. Most of them don't read the forums or inaccurate news sites.
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
464
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:48:00 -
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Strange that no one who knows the solution still did not send it to evil empire corpmail ))
...sorry for bad English =)
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Kratek Heshan
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
11
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:52:00 -
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duna is no more on ambush heheh ^^ no more tanks |
C Saunders
Tech guard RISE of LEGION
873
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Posted - 2014.04.21 18:17:00 -
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Lolbump.
// Fully Specced Mass Driver Expert // Proto Min Scout // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guard Director //
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APOPHIS Xxx
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
36
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:02:00 -
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Fiddle McBums wrote:wow, ths scm s vry i opning. nw plyrs shldnt be scmed out f thr mny. thy wrkd hrd fr dat mny nd duna keps tkng frm thm. dwn wit duna, up wit CCP
Damn! Are you not ashamed of yourself? Shut off your PS3 and go back to school! People like you deserve to be scammed! lol
Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2014.04.21 19:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I cannot condone this.
There is scamming
And there is abusing game mechanics.
This is the later.
Isn't this skimming the waterline and simply a polite way of saying "scamming the game system but since it's not about a combat but..oh wait those never get fixed anyways. But I'll be ever so enlightened and merely say this is DUST and only exists in the EvE universe; Dust514 isn't EvE and vice-versa. One is a sandbox~mmo and the other is an attempt at a FPS~mmo. If they don't mind killing their playerbase on a manipulation of game mechanics, then it says a lot.
And if it does help "Scamming" and "abusing of game mechanics" still share the concept of "cheating to enhance one's prospects". I don't mingle words and call it for what it is. It's a scam based on abuse.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
690
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:34:00 -
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Kratek Heshan wrote:duna is no more on ambush heheh ^^ no more tanks
? I have seen Duna plenty of times in Ambush.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
156
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:19:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:I know a guy, Pheezen, hes in a lot of my channels and seems to be quite a nice guy. He plays a lot too, but hes always been in duna corp.
I fear for him. Pheezen is out of duna, thank god...he might be joining GCON here soon :D
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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