@ Tek
You're mistaken on one point. I can switch from Cloak to Primary, and get off one Shotgun blast before my decloak animation completes. The ability to fire while partially cloaked should be corrected.

@ Spectral
I hope they also fix that stun-locking nonsense. Why run Biotics if you're slowed to a crawl every time someone shoots in your direction?

Kb/m uber strafe is a myth.

It's not so much sensitivity or aiming problems. it's all about the hit detection. It only works because CCP cant even imagine what hit detection even means.

I use my controller most of the time, but have access to mouse and keyboard option and PSMove.

I can confirm that reversing direction suddenly and sharply is MUCH easier with keys than analog sticks. Not a myth, provable fact. It doesn't give you a massive edge, but it can be enough to tip from having a few shots missing to literally negating aim assist. People who don't rely on aim assist will find good KB/M strafe dancing to be slightly harder to track than good sixaxis strafe dancing, but circle strafing with either option is viable and effective as well.

It doesn't necessarily make a difference, but it CAN make a difference, and it's not a myth. But it's not as much of an "uber" advantage as I've seen some people claim.

The first Shotgun blast always lands -- because its in the back .
But if you popped a Super Strafer, each and every blast to follow comes down to luck.

At 5 meters and under, KB/M Super Strafing breaks Shotguns.
Ask any Shotgunner.

Comfirmed

Super strafing kbm is a myth. Circle strafing > all. And I'm pretty sure that's done easier on a controller. Could be wrong though

... no, it doesn't "break" Shotguns, but it requires a major change in approach from any other opponent.

A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!!
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down..
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does.

The reason I made the OP..

Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..

There should be no way that could happen!

It doesn't take skills to shake analog left and right, while mashing jump.
That cowardish tactic is mostly successful on everybody due to sensitivity and aiming problems from their speedy circling.

You are not wrong.

On KBM it's an octagon rather than a circle, and it's far easier to do on a controller.

My 800 HP Assault Logi can hack a point in 3 seconds. While standing on a lag bomb of repair hives if I want.
I think a Scout bonus should benefit the lethality or survivability of itself. What good is a hack bonus if you just have to run off the point, or die 1 second later? That hack, your suit went to waste. A hacking bonus is a non-combative skill, and should be left to the non-combative roles (i.e.- Logis)

I wish that HP tanking wasn't seen as the only option in this game. We have tons of modules to use, but just settle for HP every time, because it curves actual gun skill. Because nobody likes dying.

Some scout in front of me with its stupid hit detection coding (which is just implemented projection error randomly executed; not an actual smaller hit box) shouldn't also be able to have over 600HP, plus all the other bonuses they have.

The Caldari Scout has become the biggest FoTM crutch in this game (as evidence by most selling Aurum suit in the game right now) because it has no drawbacks.

You mad bro?

A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!!
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down..
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does.

The reason I made the OP..

Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..

There should be no way that could happen!

All about skill

All about those keyboards.

Someone should try to do the back and forth dance in real life with a air soft AR shooting at them and tell me how many miss you!!

All Scouts need is their HP reduced.
Because as of right now, they have no balance. Nothing is sacrificed.
Scouts are NOT Assault Suits.
However, they are meant to be lethal, but using them on the frontline is not working as intended.

I will say though, the Minmatar hack bonus is stupid, useless, and serves no purpose on a Scout.

A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!!
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down..
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does.

The reason I made the OP..

Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..

There should be no way that could happen!

True in theory, untrue in practice. There is no difference in strafe speed, and virtually no difference in the transition from one direction to another. Both are fallacies.

Signed, someone who tested it.

I use my controller most of the time, but have access to mouse and keyboard option and PSMove.

I can confirm that reversing direction suddenly and sharply is MUCH easier with keys than analog sticks. Not a myth, provable fact. It doesn't give you a massive edge, but it can be enough to tip from having a few shots missing to literally negating aim assist. People who don't rely on aim assist will find good KB/M strafe dancing to be slightly harder to track than good sixaxis strafe dancing, but circle strafing with either option is viable and effective as well.

It doesn't necessarily make a difference, but it CAN make a difference, and it's not a myth. But it's not as much of an "uber" advantage as I've seen some people claim.

I ran a test last night. With M/KB or DS3, I can shift the strafe direction so fast that I just stand in one place and wiggle. Pausing a moment and allowing for movement before changing direction I get the same exact results with both control types. So either your controller is crap, or your thumb is slow.

A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!! / its not
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down.. / they dont. Unless the heavy is a scrub. A single second of HMG spray and pray can kill any proto scout in a matter of a second.
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does. / Learn to shoot SERIOUSLY.

''Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..''

Something does not deserve a NERF just because you lack awareness or skill.

You need less time QQ in the forums and more time playing dust.