A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!! / its not
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down.. / they dont. Unless the heavy is a scrub. A single second of HMG spray and pray can kill any proto scout in a matter of a second.
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does. / Learn to shoot SERIOUSLY.

''Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..''

Something does not deserve a NERF just because you lack awareness or skill.

You need less time QQ in the forums and more time playing dust.

Yeah M+KB is the problem.

Doesn't know what circle strafing is.

On a controller, hold left stick in one direction and right stick in the other.
On keyboard and mouse, hold one of the strafe buttons and turn in the opposite direction with the mouse.

With the right sensitivity/tilt on the right stick, or the right speed of mouse turning with a mouse, you'll move in a circle around the opponent while facing them. It's easier to make a perfect circle with a controller, it's easier to keep your aim on the target with slight adjustments to turn speed with a mouse.

My bad.

You know what I mean though right?

Moving in a tight circle is FAR better than the Left-Right strafe. Which is why I believe controller is actually the better thing to use. Sure kbm MIGHT be able to change directions faster than a controller, but the controller has something better than the left-right.. It's the circle! (or whatever the correct term would be)

Super strafers = controller users who have mastered the art. Look at soul's strafe

Something does not deserve a NERF just because you lack awareness or skill.

You need less time QQ in the forums and more time playing dust.

When you're moving in one direction with the sixaxis controller, then instantly flick to the opposite direction, there is a slight momentum which takes a moment to compensate for before you reverse direction.

When you're moving in one direction with the keyboard then switch to the opposite movement key, you're instantly going at full strafe speed in the opposite direction with zero delay.

I've tested it multiple times and confirmed it every time.

If you're mashing the controller back and forth and having your character "wiggle" then you're doing what you SHOULD be doing with the keyboard - transitioning near-instantly from an input in one direction to an input for the opposite direction. If you're getting the same "wiggle" movement on a keyboard, you aren't transitioning sharply enough between the two movement keys and are giving yourself a moment with both keys pressed, making your directional shift sluggish. So either your keyboard is crap or you're doing it wrong.

There are two ways to mash directional strafing with the keyboard. One works, the other makes you look like an idiot.

1. Hold A.
2. Release A
3. As you're releasing A, press and hold D.

This results in an instant shift from full speed left to full speed right. When done fast, this lets you bounce back and forth rapidly.

1. Hold A.
2. Press and hold D.
3. Release A.

This results in a momentary pause, leaving you extremely vulnerable as you shift directions. When done fast, this results in a wiggling movement that looks like what you get when you mash the left stick back and forth on the sixaxis controller.

If you have a bad keyboard, it may not disconnect the key input the instant the key is released. Get a better keyboard.

lrn2keebored.

You obviously read the only the first sentence of her post.

A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!!
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down..
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does.

The reason I made the OP..

Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..

There should be no way that could happen!

A cloaky scout with a shot gun should not be the go to guy in a war!!
A scout should not be able to go toe to toe against a heavy and win hands down..
And that super human back and forth side step dance people do to avoide gun fire sould cost stamina like jumping does.

The reason I made the OP..

Last nite I was standing at A in a game of Dom with a advanced heavy sentinel with full proto equipment and HMG and a scout runs up to me cloaked, I start shooting he uncloked right in front of me danced back and forth in my 450 rounds of gun fire and shot me five times with his shot gun killed me and hacked the letter..

There should be no way that could happen!

I don't want to be the "Get gud scrub!" guy, because I suck at this game. However, if you can't kill a scout running at you with a HMG. He must really be some sort of strafer, there is some sort of lag involved, or you are really, really, really bad at this game. When I run shotgun scout if I attack the heavy from behind I win probably about 80% of the time. If I am playing like a dumbass and charge the guy head on cloaked I lose 90% of the time and that is how it should be.