DUST Search - 1% of Mercs are extremely wealthy and 99% of Mercs can barely play.

Marston VC wrote:

Enki Kalgarian wrote:

There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT .

so hold on a second....... 1% of people are wealthy, while the other 99% of people aren't, yet MOST people run Proto....... That's a bit of a paradox isn't it? Most people cant afford to play yet most people run proto.......

Or maybe, cheap 20k isk suits are just too hard to work with? Oh wait, i went 25-2 with one last night, and repeatedly got results like that with a suit that only cost that much.

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Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 22	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:10:00 - [1] - Quote There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT .
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 943	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:12:00 - [2] - Quote I am in a wealthy corp, although not as wealthy as some and we do not pay our players -- and, FWIW, I agree with your perspective. That said, and I know you don't want to hear it, but there's nothing stopping you (or anyone else broke) from running starter/BPO suits to accumulate ISK. Just be prepared to die more often. You're only as broke as your need to run expensive suits and build your (meaningless) KDR. Respectfully...Leadfoot
Virtual Riot Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 250	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:13:00 - [3] - Quote if isk was too easy to make for the average joe, ccp wouldn't have a business model
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 22	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:16:00 - [4] - Quote Virtual Riot wrote: if isk was too easy to make for the average joe, ccp wouldn't have a business model Sad thing is if things don't change ccp isn't going to have a game that is only my opinion.
Grit Breather Cannonfodder PMC 1093	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:17:00 - [5] - Quote You just described the USA. "Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." GÇò Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1158	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:19:00 - [6] - Quote If I can make money flying proto pythons (even pre-1.7), no one has an excuse. Me in my ADS: 1,2
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 22	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:21:00 - [7] - Quote Grit Breather wrote: You just described the USA. And like the 1% in America they have so many excuses why the 99% are broke and don't care at all. all that matters to them "ccp"is making money.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 351	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:23:00 - [8] - Quote Think about it this way: scarcity of a resource is what gives it value. If the average player struggles to fund themselves then that means the economy is working and that both decisions and ISK have weight to them. Honestly it's the main thing that makes this games economy work. I LIKE struggling for money. I love knowing most other players are doing the same. It's the aspect of the game that is the most exciting and keeps it from being JUST "a lobby shooter ." It's added persistence and it's what makes things count. If everyone made enough to run what they wanted all the time then ISK would be worthless. Enjoy the grind, it's what's keeping things interesting. FW lvl10 reward Mobile Redlines Default FWRace
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1182	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:24:00 - [9] - Quote I do not understand how someone can possibly go negative ISK in a match... Do you die more than 20 times or something?
Marston VC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1649	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:25:00 - [10] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . so hold on a second....... 1% of people are wealthy, while the other 99% of people aren't, yet MOST people run Proto....... That's a bit of a paradox isn't it? Most people cant afford to play yet most people run proto....... Or maybe, cheap 20k isk suits are just too hard to work with? Oh wait, i went 25-2 with one last night, and repeatedly got results like that with a suit that only cost that much. Marston VC, STB Director

Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 148	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:25:00 - [11] - Quote Spent over 20 million this update and its only been like 3 days into the update.... Im at 34 mill, gotta run basics for a while, seeing as how i dont have any BPOs
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1411	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:27:00 - [12] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . so 1% save their money and 99% spend it on proto suits? big surprise.
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2096	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:28:00 - [13] - Quote DOWN WITH THE 1% FAT CATS! OCCUPY JITA! I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:29:00 - [14] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Think about it this way: scarcity of a resource is what gives it value. If the average player struggles to fund themselves then that means the economy is working and that both decisions and ISK have weight to them. Honestly it's the main thing that makes this games economy work. I LIKE struggling for money. I love knowing most other players are doing the same. It's the aspect of the game that is the most exciting and keeps it from being JUST "a lobby shooter ." It's added persistence and it's what makes things count. If everyone made enough to run what they wanted all the time then ISK would be worthless. Enjoy the grind, it's what's keeping things interesting. Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff having no Isk sucks and all of you out there that say its great are lying or you must have a lot of money like I said if you have money or are in a rich corp do not comment because we don't care.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12696	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:29:00 - [15] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: I do not understand how someone can possibly go negative ISK in a match... Do you die more than 20 times or something? Losing 2 million isk in pubs is far from uncommon for me. The more stuff trying to shoot down my Incubus, the more likely I am to deploy again and attempt to overcome the wall of death closing in around me. #stubbornaf My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:31:00 - [16] - Quote low genius wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . so 1% save their money and 99% spend it on proto suits? big surprise. How can you play other wise put on a starter suit and hide for the game that's not fun everyone is running proto and if people say other wise I don't think your playing the game
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:33:00 - [17] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . so hold on a second....... 1% of people are wealthy, while the other 99% of people aren't, yet MOST people run Proto....... That's a bit of a paradox isn't it? Most people cant afford to play yet most people run proto....... Or maybe, cheap 20k isk suits are just too hard to work with? Oh wait, i went 25-2 with one last night, and repeatedly got results like that with a suit that only cost that much. Hey good for you man
Marston VC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1650	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:34:00 - [18] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: low genius wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . so 1% save their money and 99% spend it on proto suits? big surprise. How can you play other wise put on a starter suit and hide for the game that's not fun everyone is running proto and if people say other wise I don't think your playing the game Everyone is poor but everyone can run proto. I think YOU SIR aren't playing the game if that line makes sense to you...... Marston VC, STB Director
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 490	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:34:00 - [19] - Quote your a bit off there. if 99% are so poor why can they all run proto. personally the only really pricy thing i ever run is my all advanced maddie. i have protofits in the 100's but i can count on one hand the ammount of times ive used them. simply because i dont see it as a viable investment to use proto in pubs and its a bit ******. actully turns out i have more than 1k full proto fits sat doing nothing. id love to see some pve. i have a lot of friends who would return to the game with pve being brought in and the player market would also help. ccp you broke the forge. skills are not being applied till 30 secs after spawn fixes before nerfs thank you.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 355	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:34:00 - [20] - Quote I'd consider myself fairly wealthy (254mil ISK) but what I have pales in comparison to other folk's cash reserves. Viktor Hadah Jr has around a Billion if the rumors are true. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust

Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:36:00 - [21] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: your a bit off there. if 99% are so poor why can they all run proto. personally the only really pricy thing i ever run is my all advanced maddie. i have protofits in the 100's but i can count on one hand the ammount of times ive used them. simply because i dont see it as a viable investment to use proto in pubs and its a bit ******. actully turns out i have more than 1k full proto fits sat doing nothing. id love to see some pve. i have a lot of friends who would return to the game with pve being brought in and the player market would also help. I just pulled that number out of my ass but the wealthy out way the poor no matter the right percentage.
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5249	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:41:00 - [22] - Quote Damn peasants, x up and I'll send you 1ISK when I log on. Heuheuheuheu. fuckign casuls
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:41:00 - [23] - Quote I run my advanced heavy suit and die to a proto heavy I put on my proto heavy and I run through most heavies.so you can't say running cheaper suits are better like I said in theory it's perfect in reality it's not so good no matter what any of you rich players say.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5400	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:41:00 - [24] - Quote I spent 70 million ISK on 1.8s arrival to buy 180,000 dropsuit fittings (not lying, 800 standard, 600 Advanced, 400 Prototype suits w/ fittings. and I still have 520,000,000 ISK to burn. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 193	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:41:00 - [25] - Quote How do you have your fits organized and do you have a number of intermediate options for those that you use most commonly? If I'm running by myself I've found that I'm isk neutral at about 50-60k a suit (an ADV suit with some proto modules). I can play all week with suits in this price range and not lose money. Because of this, I normally run ADV fits in the 40K isk range. This subsidizes bringing out proto stuff when I'm against good players in proto suits and nets me a small profit each day. Some simple math can help you find your optimal level of spending given your skill level and play style. -Aramis
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:45:00 - [26] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I spent 70 million ISK on 1.8s arrival to buy 180,000 dropsuit fittings (not lying, 800 standard, 600 Advanced, 400 Prototype suits w/ fittings. and I still have 520,000,000 ISK to burn. Wow that's insane thanks for proving my point how can the average player compete with that no matter how much I ***** I got to say good going man wish we were dust buddies.
axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 29	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:46:00 - [27] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . Comrade, that is where you are wrong. I run militia fits and still roflstomping proto scrubs. Very fun, if you ask me. OR, I say, go into tanking. Learn to drive. Learn to shoot. Learn to appreciate the hatemail you receive afterwords with a bunch of QQ'ers whining about their 150k suits. Then you will enjoy proto stomping )) I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
M1tch Rapp Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:47:00 - [28] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Virtual Riot wrote: if isk was too easy to make for the average joe, ccp wouldn't have a business model Sad thing is if things don't change ccp isn't going to have a game that is only my opinion. I agree, it's neat that we have this model that makes you think about your economic choices. The problem is that the current model allows for a 4 KDR person to come close to profiting in ADV suits. 20-5, lose 210K ISK and make 260K ISK I think the current model makes pubs boring.
axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 29	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:48:00 - [29] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I spent 70 million ISK on 1.8s arrival to buy 180,000 dropsuit fittings (not lying, 800 standard, 600 Advanced, 400 Prototype suits w/ fittings. and I still have 520,000,000 ISK to burn. Wow that's insane thanks for proving my point how can the average player compete with that no matter how much I ***** I got to say good going man wish we were dust buddies. Btw Enki, I think Sgt. Kirk earned this through selling TEMPLAR BPO's, Sgt. Kirk correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen your names several times throughout the trade forums. That means he's paid real money. Maybe you should do that too; saves you time grinding hour after hour with little reward, eh? I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Mr Retsof VI Swiss Bank of New Eden 44	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:48:00 - [30] - Quote 1%er "War is money...if you have it, you win."



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