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ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2395	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:41:00 - [61] - Quote I was someone who was vehemently against pve in dust, as it would take away development of the pvp aspect. I just started playing eve about a week ago. I know understand and see the light. We need pve in dust and we need it badly.
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 2	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:42:00 - [62] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: I do not understand how someone can possibly go negative ISK in a match... Do you die more than 20 times or something? Die two times with a proto suit & you ll go negative in a pub match. You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1887	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:44:00 - [63] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . so hold on a second....... 1% of people are wealthy, while the other 99% of people aren't, yet MOST people run Proto....... That's a bit of a paradox isn't it? Most people cant afford to play yet most people run proto....... Or maybe, cheap 20k isk suits are just too hard to work with? Oh wait, i went 25-2 with one last night, and repeatedly got results like that with a suit that only cost that much. The paradox only exists because the playerbase is small enough to give that impression. Those "protostompers" play for hours on end when few others can stomach it for more than a couple. This causes it to appear that everyone is running proto since you get thrown up against them nearly every match unless you are lucky enough to break the queue cycle. The only point to Isk wealth currently is to hoard it so that you can break the market when we get it, aside from that (and to stroke your raging epeener over having a lot of digits in your virtual wallet) there is no point to it. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 588	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:44:00 - [64] - Quote I haven't played PC outside of ringing for well over 5 months and I, myself hardly profited anyways. However I still manage to run some form of proto in pretty much every match while still keeping my wallet positive. Don't use it if you know you'll loose it very quickly. If my wallet is under my preset amount that I want to keep I just run cheaper suits and once I get over my amount I run better gear. Seriously, learn to either be better than your enemy or better manage your funds. Who cares if some scrubs have hundreds of millions ISK it still doesn't prevent you from killing them, the barrier is mostly skill anyways. tl;dr They'd roll you regardless of the suits, learn to manage your funds Mmmm Scout ak.0 Projects: TDBS \| SDETool
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12699	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:44:00 - [65] - Quote rithu wrote: Rasatsu wrote: I do not understand how someone can possibly go negative ISK in a match... Do you die more than 20 times or something? Die two times with a proto suit & you ll go negative in a pub match. Die once in an ADS and youll go negative for two My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3718	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:45:00 - [66] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . Starter fits exist for a reason. No.
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 354	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:46:00 - [67] - Quote Mr Retsof VI wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Mr Retsof VI wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Think about it this way: scarcity of a resource is what gives it value. If the average player struggles to fund themselves then that means the economy is working and that both decisions and ISK have weight to them. Honestly it's the main thing that makes this games economy work. I LIKE struggling for money. I love knowing most other players are doing the same. It's the aspect of the game that is the most exciting and keeps it from being JUST "a lobby shooter ." It's added persistence and it's what makes things count. If everyone made enough to run what they wanted all the time then ISK would be worthless. Enjoy the grind, it's what's keeping things interesting. I like this guys attitude... Ander Thedas, would like some isk ? Well, I'd never ask, but I'd never so no, either! But really I think the scarcity is in the spirit of the game. The fact that people are on the forums complaining that they can't run the fits they want to adds to the robustness of both the game play and the meta, which feeds right back into the mood of the game and, consequently, the lore of it as well. It does have drawbacks, however. The other day my friend straight up rage quit because of ISK loss and refuses to sign back on until some changes are made (but to be honest it's mostly his Rambo play style that gets him in trouble), but there is a very beautiful and delicate balance there to be preserved. Sometime in the next 10 hours you will receive some isk into your account. Share with your friend. Dust needs more "Rambo" types, they're good for laughs.... Really?? I'm going to probably give all of it to him, then. He needs it more than I do and any incentive to get him back in the game is worth the price. Cheers :) FW lvl10 reward Mobile Redlines Default FWRace
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2249	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:46:00 - [68] - Quote I have 300,000,000 at any given time BC I run cheap suits. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Rusty Shallows 1294	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:47:00 - [69] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I'm not wealthy, but I'm not poor, either. My corp mates barely ever reach 1 mil isk and they can run their best suits plenty of times. ISK accumulation in of itself is unimportant. How it is spent to enjoy the game is. So it sounds like they are doing it right. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:48:00 - [70] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: There are so many people that are playing Dust 514 with very little Isk . Is there going to be any different modes in the future that we can make Isk like that drone mode where we can fight drones all night and make Isk .if you are broke let them know.and I don't want to here run free suits or anything like that because in theory running free suits is good but In the game of dust it is pointless when pretty much everyone is running proto.please leave a comment if you are having troubles playing dust because of the lack of Isk and if you have a lot of money or if you are in a wealthy corp PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE A COMMENT . Starter fits exist for a reason. Like I said meet me in dom on the Europe server and prove that to me only people with money say starter fits are good because they never use them.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12700	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:50:00 - [71] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: I have 300,000,000 at any given time BC I run cheap suits. I envy you people who can still play in dropsuits haha. That **** got old last year >_< My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 224	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:52:00 - [72] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff So stop grinding just to blow it all on proto, mess with your loadouts until you find a good balance between cost/battle effectiveness. It takes some puttering around to work it out but once you find it you're set. Welcome to you're "DOOM"
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:55:00 - [73] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff So stop grinding just to blow it all on proto, mess with your loadouts until you find a good balance between cost/battle effectiveness. It takes some puttering around to work it out but once you find it you're set. I will do that it's just frustrating when it seems that everyone says run cheaper fits but when I'm playing all I see is proto.
Kaughst Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 374	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:57:00 - [74] - Quote We are the 3.5 percent. "He said he has a alt in STB." "Everyone has a alt in STB."
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 392	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:57:00 - [75] - Quote If you can't effectively run free then get remotes and play smart. Or get a scout suit and play smart. Or both. If you want to be a guns-a-blazing kind of guy, go sentinel. I've made 200mil running mostly cheap heavy fits. Making money is easy and fun. :D "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 34	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:57:00 - [76] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff So stop grinding just to blow it all on proto, mess with your loadouts until you find a good balance between cost/battle effectiveness. It takes some puttering around to work it out but once you find it you're set. I will do that it's just frustrating when it seems that everyone says run cheaper fits but when I'm playing all I see is proto. So you are going to conform with society? A great person you are. What happened to individualism? For me it took 19 million SP to finally realize what I was good at--sniping. Find what you're good at and stick there. Don't let no fakget tell you otherwise bro. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3885	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:58:00 - [77] - Quote rithu wrote: Rasatsu wrote: I do not understand how someone can possibly go negative ISK in a match... Do you die more than 20 times or something? Die two times with a proto suit & you ll go negative in a pub match. That only matters if you don't have extra pay on the side. I generally don't die in Proto too much, but I pull enough profit from PC to run it ISK negative a few times. Then again, my fav suit only costs me around 100k I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2249	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:59:00 - [78] - Quote Mlt scout suit. Re's. Nothing will survive. Who cares if you lose 20 suits!? They're only 5950 isk each. Lol Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 357	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:59:00 - [79] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff So stop grinding just to blow it all on proto, mess with your loadouts until you find a good balance between cost/battle effectiveness. It takes some puttering around to work it out but once you find it you're set. I will do that it's just frustrating when it seems that everyone says run cheaper fits but when I'm playing all I see is proto. I can understand that. I run standard 95% of the time, and rarely swap to ADV just to make sure I can turn a profit almost all the time. I find that when I play smarter, run from fights I know I can't win and re-position myself to be more useful then my kills stay about the same (even though I'm in less fights) and my deaths go way down. Suddenly I'm saving more money than I thought just from a quick little play style adjustment. Plus it makes taking out proto suits all the more satisfying. FW lvl10 reward Mobile Redlines Default FWRace
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:01:00 - [80] - Quote Kaughst wrote: We are the 3.5 percent. With your corp it is probably one of the richest corps in dust do you pay for your Mercs guns ,suits, equipment .for all or just some

axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 34	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:01:00 - [81] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff So stop grinding just to blow it all on proto, mess with your loadouts until you find a good balance between cost/battle effectiveness. It takes some puttering around to work it out but once you find it you're set. I will do that it's just frustrating when it seems that everyone says run cheaper fits but when I'm playing all I see is proto. I can understand that. I run standard 95% of the time, and rarely swap to ADV just to make sure I can turn a profit almost all the time. I find that when I play smarter, run from fights I know I can't win and re-position myself to be more useful then my kills stay about the same (even though I'm in less fights) and my deaths go way down. Suddenly I'm saving more money than I thought just from a quick little play style adjustment. Plus it makes taking out proto suits all the more satisfying. YES. You see, the most OP weapon is up in our head. No one seems to use it, though. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 370	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:02:00 - [82] - Quote Like in life the OP has been answered but doesn't like the answer so rejects it. It's simple, don't spend more than you make. How you do that is a big part of the fun and challenge of Dust. On this alt I am running strictly free starter fits, with good passive skills it actually performs pretty well and since it can't do much I only have to concentrate on a limited role, it's kind of relaxing, and it is all profit. I don't need ISK so I can transfer it to my other characters. Because, that's why.
zzZaXxx G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION 267	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:03:00 - [83] - Quote Cool! DUST reflects real life!
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:06:00 - [84] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Like in life the OP has been answered but doesn't like the answer so rejects it. It's simple, don't spend more than you make. How you do that is a big part of the fun and challenge of Dust. On this alt I am running strictly free starter fits, with good passive skills it actually performs pretty well and since it can't do much I only have to concentrate on a limited role, it's kind of relaxing, and it is all profit. I don't need ISK so I can transfer it to my other characters. Like I said come and prove your words are true Dom European server every day I still say it's all talk unless your hiding in a corner the whole match and what's the fun in that.
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1300	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:07:00 - [85] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff So stop grinding just to blow it all on proto, mess with your loadouts until you find a good balance between cost/battle effectiveness. It takes some puttering around to work it out but once you find it you're set. I will do that it's just frustrating when it seems that everyone says run cheaper fits but when I'm playing all I see is proto. I can understand that. I run standard 95% of the time, and rarely swap to ADV just to make sure I can turn a profit almost all the time. I find that when I play smarter, run from fights I know I can't win and re-position myself to be more useful then my kills stay about the same (even though I'm in less fights) and my deaths go way down. Suddenly I'm saving more money than I thought just from a quick little play style adjustment. Plus it makes taking out proto suits all the more satisfying. This. Knowing when not to engage will save you more ISK than anything else in this game and improve your K/D in the process. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 224	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:08:00 - [86] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: I will do that it's just frustrating when it seems that everyone says run cheaper fits but when I'm playing all I see is proto. How are your core skills? getting that **** maxed is a huge advantage and lets you run cheap stuff more effectively. Honestly 99% of the loadouts I run are under 10k isk, at that price I need to die 20+ times per match to go negative. It's no get rich quick scheme but it builds up over time. Welcome to you're "DOOM"
Kaughst Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 374	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:10:00 - [87] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Kaughst wrote: We are the 3.5 percent. With your corp it is probably one of the richest corps in dust do you pay for your Mercs guns ,suits, equipment .for all or just some I don't manage finances, nor do I speak Japanese. "He said he has a alt in STB." "Everyone has a alt in STB."
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:12:00 - [88] - Quote I'm going to start a chat room on dust called Big Talk and if you think you can run starter or militia anything join me or play against me and prove you are correct I'm not a **** that just wants to argue I just think there is no way Mercs are doing anything with that kind of fits and playing the game. Unless they are hiding the whole match.
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 942	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:12:00 - [89] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Ander Thedas wrote: Think about it this way: scarcity of a resource is what gives it value. If the average player struggles to fund themselves then that means the economy is working and that both decisions and ISK have weight to them. Honestly it's the main thing that makes this games economy work. I LIKE struggling for money. I love knowing most other players are doing the same. It's the aspect of the game that is the most exciting and keeps it from being JUST "a lobby shooter ." It's added persistence and it's what makes things count. If everyone made enough to run what they wanted all the time then ISK would be worthless. Enjoy the grind, it's what's keeping things interesting. Why should we grind and die for a week with starter fits just so we can play for a day with proto stuff having no Isk sucks and all of you out there that say its great are lying or you must have a lot of money like I said if you have money or are in a rich corp do not comment because we don't care. You grind for a week in starter fits so you can play for a day in proto? WTF? You do realize that for the price of one day of proto you could run advanced all week? And that the gap between advanced and proto is tiny compared to the gap between starter fits and advanced? smh
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:13:00 - [90] - Quote Kaughst wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Kaughst wrote: We are the 3.5 percent. With your corp it is probably one of the richest corps in dust do you pay for your Mercs guns ,suits, equipment .for all or just some I don't manage finances, nor do I speak Japanese. Thanks just wondering.



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