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Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 909	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:27:00 - [1] - Quote Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:33:00 - [2] - Quote Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing
LT Dans Legs Bullet Cluster 323	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:36:00 - [3] - Quote This game is complete udder crap now. I can't believe how bad it is now. To Live Is To Die
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2058	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:36:00 - [4] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Loves his crutch too much to do anything healthy for the game. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 5	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:37:00 - [5] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Well then te decloak is lagging cause my friend can get out a entire shotgun clip before he is visible As I great Minmitar soldier once said to me "Murder murder" Inspiration merc. slogan
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 911	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:37:00 - [6] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5249	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:39:00 - [7] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Works with the Mass driver as well. Edit: but not the NKs, WTF? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2060	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:40:00 - [8] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 912	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:41:00 - [9] - Quote Well yeah, i works with everything. But itms most notable with shotties as they deal 500-800 alpha before the engagement even starts. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:42:00 - [10] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. I have On my screen i am decloaked before i can shoot

COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 781	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:43:00 - [11] - Quote I have been excited for cloak and am an advocate for a more diverse battlefield but even I was like 'errrmm...I can basically shoot from cloak' when I tried it out. You can arm up and start unloading way too easily out of cloak. This has to be fixed for it to be a fair piece of equipment. The other drawbacks are good; you can't hear much, you shimmer and can only hack, but in under a second I can start shooting and it's not cool. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 912	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:44:00 - [12] - Quote Then you're a bad shot. Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload. Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:45:00 - [13] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:47:00 - [14] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Then you're a bad shot. Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload. Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. Sure The instant the R2 button is pressed the cloak is turned off No way to shot anymore that 1 shot even with lag.
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 62	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:49:00 - [15] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. Quit being a wuss and take off the shotty. Touch my BPO Gear, and you shall perish in the thrusters of a AMARR TITAN!!!!!!! AMARRIAN4LYFE!
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 914	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:49:00 - [16] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Then you're a bad shot. Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload. Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. Sure The instant the R2 button is pressed the cloak is turned off No way to shot anymore that 1 shot even with lag. Dexter, seriously stop. I know you're defending your crutch, we all do. The only one defending this is you. GG newb scrub GTFO. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1037	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:50:00 - [17] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: I have been excited for cloak and am an advocate for a more diverse battlefield but even I was like 'errrmm...I can basically shoot from cloak' when I tried it out. You can arm up and start unloading way too easily out of cloak. This has to be fixed for it to be a fair piece of equipment. The other drawbacks are good; you can't hear much, you shimmer and can only hack, but in under a second I can start shooting and it's not cool. Agreed
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:50:00 - [18] - Quote tander09 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. Quit being a wuss and take off the shotty. HAHAHAHA SHOTGUN QQ I NEVER THOUGH I WOULD SEE THE DAY
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 914	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:53:00 - [19] - Quote Shotguns alone are fine- i even laugh when my proto scout is killed by a commando shotty. It's when scrubs like you find a way to shoot someone whilst being invisible that pisses me off. Like asshats who use SSD's to load matches 10 seconds early, and to make sure their excessive nano spam doesn't effect them. Stop posting in my thread. You're not being constructive nor critical, only scrub. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:53:00 - [20] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Then you're a bad shot. Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload. Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. Sure The instant the R2 button is pressed the cloak is turned off No way to shot anymore that 1 shot even with lag. Dexter, seriously stop. I know you're defending your crutch, we all do. The only one defending this is you. GG newb scrub GTFO. Its so funny seeing this QQ If you cant see cloak scouts then your blind Moving scouts are just as visible as non cloaked scouts Still scouts can be difficult to see if not paying attention but if you know theres a scout nearby its epnot hard to find them. Also the load noise when uncloaking makes it very easy to know there is a scout near by Ive killed many cloaked shotgun scouts simply by turning around after hearing this noise

Boot Booter Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 332	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:54:00 - [21] - Quote Yup just got knifed by a guy in cloak... he had time to swipe at me twice. I thought it was ok, its not.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5249	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:55:00 - [22] - Quote Just sitting here watching the pissing match while eating tuna and crackers. (at near 3 in the morn) Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1207	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:56:00 - [23] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Shotguns alone are fine- i even laugh when my proto scout is killed by a commando shotty. It's when scrubs like you find a way to shoot someone whilst being invisible that pisses me off. Like asshats who use SSD's to load matches 10 seconds early, and to make sure their excessive nano spam doesn't effect them. Stop posting in my thread. You're not being constructive nor critical, only scrub. Once again Its lag. If I, the so called "scrub" can kill cloaked scouts with ease then why cant you?
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 113	Posted - 2014.03.27 05:57:00 - [24] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Loves his crutch too much to do anything healthy for the game. LMFAO @Dexter. You shot gunned me four times in a match and never de-cloaked. Capes are useless, they are not required, not needed.. They are garbage and just a crutch and an excuse for scouts who have no skill and want a massive advantage. Nothing but a bunch of next generation Logi slayers who can't play a true scouts role and want to slay all. Its same people calling for the nerf of heavies cause they can't take them head on 1v1 and kill them. Cloaks are a joke.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1209	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:02:00 - [25] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Loves his crutch too much to do anything healthy for the game. LMFAO @Dexter. You shot gunned me four times in a match and never de-cloaked. Capes are useless, they are not required, not needed.. They are garbage and just a crutch and an excuse for scouts who have no skill and want a massive advantage. Nothing but a bunch of next generation Logi slayers who can't play a true scouts role and want to slay all. Its same people calling for the nerf of heavies cause they can't take them head on 1v1 and kill them. Cloaks are a joke. Scouts are the ones saying heavies DONT need a nerf Ill say it again, if you cant see cloaked scouts your blind. I can see them perfectly fine Its more likely that its the assult logis+ 360 scanner spammers are the ones QQing as the majority seems ok with cloaks.
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 113	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:04:00 - [26] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Shotguns alone are fine- i even laugh when my proto scout is killed by a commando shotty. It's when scrubs like you find a way to shoot someone whilst being invisible that pisses me off. Like asshats who use SSD's to load matches 10 seconds early, and to make sure their excessive nano spam doesn't effect them. Stop posting in my thread. You're not being constructive nor critical, only scrub. Once again Its lag. If I, the so called "scrub" can kill cloaked scouts with ease then why cant you? Scouts got a really nice buff in 1.8 without cloaks, you saying you sucked at 1.7 and needed more than an extra slot and equipment slot.. And on top of that more suit options? Its a crutch for your broken leg, i mean broken tactics. Don't have the awareness to hack without checking surroundings, well just cloak. Can't sneak up using positional play on foes, well cloaks will help accomplish your ** play. Don't know when to engage an enemy, well a cloak will help. Want to run across wide distances in the open with a fragile suits, cloak. Just ** gameplay rewarded. No skill required. No strategy or kill anymore. Just cloak run straight at someone and attack them. No flanking, just run straight to the front lines and enrage foes. Its a joke, any scout from open beta should be embarrassed that a scout has come down to this bullshit. Scouts, some had a difficult time, weren't broken in 1.7 - so scouts got a nice buff, more flexibility, more adaptability, more options (got one hi and one low on suits that were released and 2 new suits with great functionality) ... Why do you need a cloak, scouts would be been plenty good without then. Cloaks are a crutch and scouts are bitches for not seeing that cloaks are junk.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5252	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:07:00 - [27] - Quote After 3am now, the Forum PvP is still going strong, and the tuna and crackers is running out. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1211	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:09:00 - [28] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Shotguns alone are fine- i even laugh when my proto scout is killed by a commando shotty. It's when scrubs like you find a way to shoot someone whilst being invisible that pisses me off. Like asshats who use SSD's to load matches 10 seconds early, and to make sure their excessive nano spam doesn't effect them. Stop posting in my thread. You're not being constructive nor critical, only scrub. Once again Its lag. If I, the so called "scrub" can kill cloaked scouts with ease then why cant you? Scouts got a really nice buff in 1.8 without cloaks, you saying you sucked at 1.7 and needed more than an extra slot and equipment slot.. And on top of that more suit options? Its a crutch for your broken leg, i mean broken tactics. Don't have the awareness to hack without checking surroundings, well just cloak. Can't sneak up using positional play on foes, well cloaks will help accomplish your ** play. Don't know when to engage an enemy, well a cloak will help. Want to run across wide distances in the open with a fragile suits, cloak. Just ** gameplay rewarded. No skill required. No strategy or kill anymore. Just cloak run straight at someone and attack them. No flanking, just run straight to the front lines and enrage foes. Its a joke, any scout from open beta should be embarrassed that a scout has come down to this bullshit. Scouts, some had a difficult time, weren't broken in 1.7 - so scouts got a nice buff, more flexibility, more adaptability, more options (got one hi and one low on suits that were released and 2 new suits with great functionality) ... Why do you need a cloak, scouts would be been plenty good without then. Cloaks are a crutch and scouts are bitches for not seeing that cloaks are junk. If your just going to ignore everything I say then im not going to argue with you. Time to make use of the hide posts feature
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 113	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:10:00 - [29] - Quote Tanks don't see x3 hardeners as a problem,it's just like scouts. They don't want to acknowledge a problem and have it nerf' because it's the first time they are doing well. They haven't changed anything, their skill is the same, they still take poor routes, and lack awareness to check before hacking... No problem just cloak. It removes all negatives to the scouts while giving them the single most viable offensive weapon to a class who doesn't need it. Scouts were going to excel with new 1.8 boosts, we didnt need a cloak. Its garbage, it's not necessary to excel.
mollerz 2985	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:13:00 - [30] - Quote wow.. shotgun QQ? scout QQ no less! haha.. too funny. The cloak was already pre-Nerfed. This is the cloak that was negotiated. H T F U You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5256	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:15:00 - [31] - Quote Tuna is gone, faint taste of mustard/relish still in my mouth, that Cotsy dude keeps on labeling scouts and I have a feeling he's not actually talked to any of the veteran scouts on the matter and is just being a Dbag. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 916	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:16:00 - [32] - Quote Tankers(the real ones) see x3 hardeners as a problem. Same with the pre1.8 scouts with cloaks. I started scouts with 1.6, and i love this cloak, gives new tools. Just the same with pre 1.7 tankers and their hatred of x3 hardener particle cannon rails, true scouts hate people abusing scout frames with bricktanks and exploit cloaks. Same with legit snipers and their hatred of redline sniping/headglitches. Same with post-nerf massholes who saw the flooding of Heavy+MD in whatever patch it was. Do you need more examples? I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
mollerz 2985	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:17:00 - [33] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Tuna is gone, faint taste of mustard/relish still in my mouth, that Cotsy dude keeps on labeling scouts and I have a feeling he's not actually talked to any of the veteran scouts on the matter and is just being a Dbag. More like he probably thought he was good until the game changed and he couldn't adapt. He got his win button removed You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 916	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:17:00 - [34] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Tuna is gone, faint taste of mustard/relish still in my mouth, that Cotsy dude keeps on labeling scouts and I have a feeling he's not actually talked to any of the veteran scouts on the matter and is just being a Dbag. Damnit. Now i gotta grab a can of tuna. prays Cat Merc doesn't show up with cloak to steal it I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 114	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:20:00 - [35] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Cotsy8 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Shotguns alone are fine- i even laugh when my proto scout is killed by a commando shotty. It's when scrubs like you find a way to shoot someone whilst being invisible that pisses me off. Like asshats who use SSD's to load matches 10 seconds early, and to make sure their excessive nano spam doesn't effect them. Stop posting in my thread. You're not being constructive nor critical, only scrub. Once again Its lag. If I, the so called "scrub" can kill cloaked scouts with ease then why cant you? Scouts got a really nice buff in 1.8 without cloaks, you saying you sucked at 1.7 and needed more than an extra slot and equipment slot.. And on top of that more suit options? Its a crutch for your broken leg, i mean broken tactics. Don't have the awareness to hack without checking surroundings, well just cloak. Can't sneak up using positional play on foes, well cloaks will help accomplish your ** play. Don't know when to engage an enemy, well a cloak will help. Want to run across wide distances in the open with a fragile suits, cloak. Just gameplay rewarded. No skill required. No strategy or kill anymore. Just cloak run straight at someone and attack them. No flanking, just run straight to the front lines and enrage foes. Its a joke, any scout from open beta should be embarrassed that a scout has come down to this bullshit. Scouts, some had a difficult time, weren't broken in 1.7 - so scouts got a nice buff, more flexibility, more adaptability, more options (got one hi and one low on suits that were released and 2 new suits with great functionality) ... Why do you need a cloak, scouts would be been plenty good without then. Cloaks are a crutch and scouts are bitches for not seeing that cloaks are junk. If your just going to ignore everything I say then im not going to argue with you. Time to make use of the hide posts feature Did you get those crutches from the CCP hospital? You make no supporting arguments and Haven't disputed any of mine. I played with you a few times and its ridiculous that you can't recognize a problem, i played with you before 1.7... Things are very different and it's not cause you got better all of a sudden. Its cause i cant see you after you've shot me, and not once. You killed me several times in a few matches and i couldn't see you. You shouldn't need a cloak to kill someone or put up good "numbers". You can see cloaked scouts, congrats. Many have a hard time, and many have a hard time seeing you after you've shot gunned them. So you can take your crutch and be oblivious to the lack of skill now required to run a 6 k/d scout. This isn't the intended role, this shouldn't be a slayer Logi 2.0 Its disappointing that scouts are following the denial train of tankers. Cloaks aren't UP or weak, they aren't necessary because they are not needed for a scout to excel. Scouts got their boost and dont need a crutch to excuse their ** gameplay. You're not some hero scout slayer carrying the team x7 scouts all being heroes. It's like deny deny deny so you don't get nerf'd. Its absurd not to see the difference from scout gameplay, scout scores, scout role...etc I get it, scouts love their new toy. I like cloaks too, i just know they are useless and not required for a scout to be good. Which doesn't seem to be the case for many scouts or those former Logi slayers who are now scouts.
mollerz 2985	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:27:00 - [36] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Did you get those crutches from the CCP hospital? Were you at the hospital for your extreme butt hurt? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 599	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:36:00 - [37] - Quote CCP has acknowledged that the insta shooting while still being cloaked is a bug. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150935&find=unread It'll probably be hotfixed SoonGäó. I game over like a boss.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5257	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:38:00 - [38] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cotsy8 wrote: Did you get those crutches from the CCP hospital? Were you at the hospital for your extreme butt hurt? Sorry it's too perfect. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:47:00 - [39] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. There was no reason to put something this stupid in the game Dust is not built on a engine that can handle such a complex thing like a cloak i guess you get what you pay for with this free to play pile of dog poo The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 649	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:50:00 - [40] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing nope, I've been seeing the same thing. CR toting scouts, cloaked logis, and even a cloaked pistoleer commando. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms

Atheor Sindromer Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 72	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:51:00 - [41] - Quote Actually no, cloak is just fine and makes stealth scout fittings viable. I find it pretty funny how almost everyone and their mother complained that the cloak would be useless with the 'glimmer effect' and now that people are getting dropped on by scouts (you know, as was always intended with them), they start crying nerf. There's nothing OP about the cloak. You just need to adapt and be more aware of your surroundings. Love the sinner, hate the Sindromer.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:56:00 - [42] - Quote I actually think that the communities uproar might be something of a worry for scouts. If they are loud enough a nerf will come. Fear the nerf scouts...fear it. Fun > Realism
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4625	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:10:00 - [43] - Quote Considering the fact that if you PAY ATTENTION, you can SEE the cloaked enemies before they can shoot you EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STILL CLOAKED... ...I'd say we're good. Lrn2eyes.
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 342	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:15:00 - [44] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: I actually think that the communities uproar might be something of a worry for scouts. If they are loud enough a nerf will come. Fear the nerf scouts...fear it. Scouts don't need a nerf (well maybe for the brick tanked ones) it's the cloak that needs a nerf/bug fix i will be the first to say that alot of you guys lack complete situational awareness I shouldn't be able to cloak right infront of you and make u guys lose me its ******* sad but yes either fix cloaks or nerf them scout suits are for the most part fine "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 921	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:22:00 - [45] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Considering the fact that if you PAY ATTENTION, you can SEE the cloaked enemies before they can shoot you EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STILL CLOAKED... ...I'd say we're good. Lrn2eyes. It's not the fact that i can't see them, that part's fine. It's the fact that they're bricktanked, taking out my 200hp Ewar scout(which passively scans past their cheapass cloak) is being killed by the person i just found. It goes like this: Cr/Nk scout with a precision mod on, find scout who's sneak sneaking about- release fire on scout, he jumps to te nearest blue thing(wall, streetpost, nanohive, yadda yadda) and stands still. The moment i look 5 degrees off he lunges(albeit slowly) after his shields regen and 1hko's me. That's not skill. That's relying on bad mechanics/brick tanks to kill everything in sight. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2067	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:43:00 - [46] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. No, just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic cause its the only way you can get kills. My situational awareness has nothing to do with the fact you can dump a shotgun magazine before you finish decloaking. Scrub. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2067	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:46:00 - [47] - Quote Atheor Sindromer wrote: Actually no, cloak is just fine and makes stealth scout fittings viable. I find it pretty funny how almost everyone and their mother complained that the cloak would be useless with the 'glimmer effect' and now that people are getting dropped on by scouts (you know, as was always intended with them), they start crying nerf. There's nothing OP about the cloak. You just need to adapt and be more aware of your surroundings. Nothing to do with the fact they can unload a shotgun cloaked. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2067	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:47:00 - [48] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Considering the fact that if you PAY ATTENTION, you can SEE the cloaked enemies before they can shoot you EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STILL CLOAKED... ...I'd say we're good. Lrn2eyes. It's not the fact that i can't see them, that part's fine. It's the fact that they're bricktanked, taking out my 200hp Ewar scout(which passively scans past their cheapass cloak) is being killed by the person i just found. It goes like this: Cr/Nk scout with a precision mod on, find scout who's sneak sneaking about- release fire on scout, he jumps to te nearest blue thing(wall, streetpost, nanohive, yadda yadda) and stands still. The moment i look 5 degrees off he lunges(albeit slowly) after his shields regen and 1hko's me. That's not skill. That's relying on bad mechanics/brick tanks to kill everything in sight. this Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 842	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:56:00 - [49] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. I have On my screen i am decloaked before i can shoot Its possible as you are still partly invisible while the decloak process, but honestly seeing cloaked scouts is already easy. Cloak scout seem to attract way more bullets than uncloaked ones. To OP: Those who have problems with cloaked scout are those who rely completely to their tac net and scanners...no awareness. Before you ask yes I have killed by scouts with shot guns as well but guess what I try to pay more attention and by this I have killed numerous cloaked scouts. And I have been killed quite a few times as I thought the cloak would protect me while crossing an open space. So I can kill cloaked scouts, others can kill them so the question is why can't you?
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Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1213	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:16:00 - [51] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. No, just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic cause its the only way you can get kills. My situational awareness has nothing to do with the fact you can dump a shotgun magazine before you finish decloaking. Scrub. Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1213	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:20:00 - [52] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. No, just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic cause its the only way you can get kills. My situational awareness has nothing to do with the fact you can dump a shotgun magazine before you finish decloaking. Scrub. Actually it does. Other people including my self can kill cloaked scouts so why can't you? Next time put a bit more focus on your awareness and less on the radar
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2070	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:33:00 - [53] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 265	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:34:00 - [54] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. So you expect to survive a HMG with your anemic scout inside 30 m?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1213	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:38:00 - [55] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. All I can see is QQ from a person who can't adapt, the majority are adjusting to cloaks and are ok with them. Mabey cod would be a better game for you. No cloaks and it's designed around not needing awareness to get kills
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 929	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:49:00 - [56] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. So you expect to survive a HMG with your anemic scout inside 30 m? No, i'm talking of not being able to damage them within 50m without their HMG gibbing me as my magsec does less DPS than them at a range. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2443	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:54:00 - [57] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. All I can see is QQ from a person who can't adapt, the majority are adjusting to cloaks and are ok with them. Mabey cod would be a better game for you. No cloaks and it's designed around not needing awareness to get kills You... You wouldn't happen to be an alt of Takahiro or Spkr, would you? Your pathetic defense of a broken mechanic is amusing me. And whoever it was who suggested tankers (aside from the aforementioned) are defending triple hardened tanks...? DIAF. ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 260	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:05:00 - [58] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: HAHAHAHA SHOTGUN QQ I NEVER THOUGH I WOULD SEE THE DAY Seriously, this is priceless. Overpowered shotguns? Overpowered scouts? I'm living in a parallel universe!
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1884	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:11:00 - [59] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. Cloak should work like in Eve. Activate, roam freely about the map with no time constraints so long as you stay X meters away from any objective, player or vehicle. If you want to use something other than the cloak whether it is equipment, grenade or a weapon, you should be required to actively swap to the other item though have it delayed by 5-10 or so in responding. The cloak should go away immediately once you swap, though the item swapped to shouldn't be in hand until the delay has passed. I think that would be a much better scenario with much less tears. Personally, IDGAF about them, so what, I got killed by a cloaked scout. However, I have heard and seen more rage over cloaks in the past 2 days than I have over vehicles in the past 2 months. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 294	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:14:00 - [60] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1217	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:52:00 - [61] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. All I can see is QQ from a person who can't adapt, the majority are adjusting to cloaks and are ok with them. Mabey cod would be a better game for you. No cloaks and it's designed around not needing awareness to get kills You... You wouldn't happen to be an alt of Takahiro or Spkr, would you? Your pathetic defense of a broken mechanic is amusing me. And whoever it was who suggested tankers (aside from the aforementioned) are defending triple hardened tanks...? DIAF. Your QQing towards a working mechanic is amusing to me.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1217	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:53:00 - [62] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. Running shotguns and or cloaks doesn't allow me to give people lag
Laurade Eve D3LTA FORC3 C0VEN 3	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:59:00 - [63] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. all day on my scout alt. its cloak, find paraniod merc, uncloak and spam that mothaflukin R2 with shotty
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2447	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:00:00 - [64] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. Running shotguns and or cloaks doesn't allow me to give people lag But it does let you exploit a BS mechanic. EDIT: I bet you liked to RE people after you died, too. ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1217	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:01:00 - [65] - Quote Laurade Eve wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. all day on my scout alt. its cloak, find paraniod merc, uncloak and spam that mothaflukin R2 with shotty You don't spam R2, that would rapidly switch weapons
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1217	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:02:00 - [66] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Dexter307 wrote: axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. Running shotguns and or cloaks doesn't allow me to give people lag But it does let you exploit a BS mechanic. If on your screen your getting shot by cloaked mercs then the animation/lag should be fixed but the cloak itself is working fine.
Thorin Avarice NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 12	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:30:00 - [67] - Quote It takes 3 cloaked scouts to rush my heavy to kill me but I like that fact. I do feel there should be like a 0.5 time dely from the time they uncloaked to start shooting. But it is what it is if fail seeing that one scout running at me and he kills me its my falt for not catching him. But back on to topic? The dely from declaok to the time they can be seen fully is alittle to long but not by much.
Moorian Flav 159	Posted - 2014.03.27 14:50:00 - [68] - Quote Saw several players yesterday fire shots at me while still cloaked. I even put my back into a corner to see barely visible players run at me and shoot at me while cloaked. I am pretty sure this is the "fun" some players are talking about. FUN MORE FUN Surprising how many think it is fun they can shoot enemies when their enemies can't exactly tell where to return fire. I don't troll; I tell the truth.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 810	Posted - 2014.03.27 15:25:00 - [69] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1228	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:30:00 - [70] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3840	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:32:00 - [71] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Works with the Mass driver as well. Edit: but not the NKs, WTF? It does, but it swtiches to your Light Slot weapon when you decloak with R2 Put the knives in you Light slot and run a sidearm I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Derrith Erador Arrogance. 1394	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:36:00 - [72] - Quote So I'm not really a scout but I can honestly say that the whole whipping out a shotgun instantly is a little stupid. I do agree scouts needed some love from CCP, but being able to shoot me just before I turn around and knock my health out is a little retarded. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:41:00 - [73] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD So now it's everyone else's inferior equipment anything but your crutch. Maybe just maybe your making too many excuses rather then seeing the obvious. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2023	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:44:00 - [74] - Quote Can't you see them moving towards you? Protip: if you have high precision, you can see cloaked scouts (unless it's a glitch I'm experiencing).
SgtDoughnut DUST University Ivy League 546	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:45:00 - [75] - Quote The decloak animation needs to be fixed, and you should not be able to fire until you are fully visable. In TF2 if spys could shoot before cloak wore off the only pistol they would ever use would be ambassador, since its a mini sniper rifle. In PS2 if infiltrators could shoot before decloaking nobody would play anything else, smg's just rip people appart in that game and infils can use them for cqc.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2764	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:46:00 - [76] - Quote Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 94	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:50:00 - [77] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Actually I disagree. Logically it should be the weapon discharge that shreds the cloak not carrying the weapon in your hands or ADS.
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 94	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:53:00 - [78] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Can't you see them moving towards you? Protip: if you have high precision, you can see cloaked scouts (unless it's a glitch I'm experiencing). Cloak reduces scan profile by 25%. So it gives back what a proto mini lost in profile reduction between 1.7 & 1.8. I have yet to see a scout though myself. Wish I had went Cal scout first.
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 94	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:55:00 - [79] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: So I'm not really a scout but I can honestly say that the whole whipping out a shotgun instantly is a little stupid. I do agree scouts needed some love from CCP, but being able to shoot me just before I turn around and knock my health out is a little retarded. I was doing that in 1.7 and am still doing that with REs and shotguns without using cloak.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 406	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:56:00 - [80] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Then you're a bad shot. Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload. Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. Sure The instant the R2 button is pressed the cloak is turned off No way to shot anymore that 1 shot even with lag. Dexter, seriously stop. I know you're defending your crutch, we all do. The only one defending this is you. GG newb scrub GTFO. Its so funny seeing this QQ If you cant see cloak scouts then your blind Moving scouts are just as visible as non cloaked scouts Still scouts can be difficult to see if not paying attention but if you know theres a scout nearby its epnot hard to find them. Also the load noise when uncloaking makes it very easy to know there is a scout near by Ive killed many cloaked shotgun scouts simply by turning around after hearing this noise 'Tis true. Not hard to see cloaks if you pay attention. To me, cloaks are kinda like active scanners pre 1.8. People trut that they won't be seen, so the scrubs take the ******** ass route, make them obvious and easy to spot. You got a squad, if someone sees a cloak scout, say something. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. There is no them, only us. [Q] <-- Drink Moar Quafe

toten thing KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:57:00 - [81] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. WHAT! You canGÇÖt dodge a huge bullet hose gun! Well I can say without even knowing you that you sir are probably the panicle of players. Without a doubt you are a badass. So since you are so badass and you canGÇÖt dodge the bullet hose that is a HMG we should nerf it. In fact we should rid of HMGs completely. Heavies should run around with a huge rubber wangs to smack you with instead and if thatGÇÖs too much maybe we can just get rid of heavies all together. Well that might not be enough. LetGÇÖs get rid of everything except scouts with shotguns. Games pretty close to that right now. Or instead you STFU and jump around a bunch in your twig man armor. Just cuz you canGÇÖt solo a heavy doesnGÇÖt mean itGÇÖs broken. Just like paper isnGÇÖt broken cuz it beats rock. Paper < Rock dust 514 forum We need to nerf paper its OP.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5351	Posted - 2014.03.27 22:56:00 - [82] - Quote near two days now, they're still at it, hungry again, perhaps for steak. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 367	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:00:00 - [83] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. I made a thread about scout cloak feedback, and this was the "only" thing i could see as a potential issue .. glad it is now confirmed, but praying to god nobody mentions the word "nerf" or "buff" in this thread else its going to break the selling point of 1.8 guaranteed. The ability to switch weapon using a cloak simply needs to be increased (Just enough to uncloak before unsheathing your weapon). It cannot be a scout specific fix, as most suits can use cloaks. and it cant be too severe, or everybody will hate cloaks. EDIT : If you can see this effecting a different area of the game in a negative or positive way, please share! all perspectives must be visualized. Just read the damn thread
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1230	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:09:00 - [84] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: axis alpha wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD So now it's everyone else's inferior equipment anything but your crutch. Maybe just maybe your making too many excuses rather then seeing the obvious. If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:13:00 - [85] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. Anything but you needing a crutch got it. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Spartykins NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 53	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:13:00 - [86] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? (Insert witty phrase here)
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:19:00 - [87] - Quote Spartykins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1130	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:30:00 - [88] - Quote The cloak can go away as far as I'm concerned. I didn't need the cloak to be effective as a scout before and I'm not a big fan of the cloak now. Before being a scout (for me at least) was using your better scanning and some situational awareness to put yourself in the best situation to kill someone, from leading them into an RE, or flanking around them to shoot them in the back. Now scouting is down to who best uses the cloak that has no counter. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1230	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:33:00 - [89] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. Anything but you needing a crutch got it. Wow, so your saying gane devs should have to balence around people who basicly dont have internet Fail logic right here
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1230	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:34:00 - [90] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Spartykins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and i ter net that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo

Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:43:00 - [91] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Spartykins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo You're just making **** up. This is your argument for cloaks remaining as they are? Pretending my TV and internet suck? Enjoy your nerf, it'll come don't you worry. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1132	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:47:00 - [92] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Spartykins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo So your argument is "cloaks are fine because you can see them easily if you don't have crappy internet or TV" correct? If cloaked scouts are so easy to see then why are you defending them so furiously? I think the rest of the thread posters have you pegged you FotM chasing, crutch needing, scruffy looking, nerf herder! Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1231	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:48:00 - [93] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Spartykins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo You're just making **** up. This is your argument for cloaks remaining as they are? Pretending my TV and internet suck? Enjoy your nerf, it'll come don't you worry. Your the one who said you had "inferior equipment"
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1236	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:49:00 - [94] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Spartykins wrote: Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault. What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo So your argument is "cloaks are fine because you can see them easily if you don't have crappy internet or TV" correct? If cloaked scouts are so easy to see then why are you defending them so furiously? I think the rest of the thread posters have you pegged you FotM chasing, crutch needing, scruffy looking, nerf herder! Because theres no reason to nerf them The only people who want them nerfed are people who were used to being able to use constant scanner spam If other people and i can see cloaked scouts why cant you?
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 83	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:02:00 - [95] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. I can attest to this myself. My Nova Knives remain invisible for about a second. So the same probably apples to any other gun.
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 329	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:05:00 - [96] - Quote As a shotgun/NK scout, i agree. The cloak should not be abused like its being right now. It seriously needs a hotifix so that people can't shoot while no one can see them except for that tiny shimmer Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1238	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:08:00 - [97] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: As a shotgun/NK scout, i agree. The cloak should not be abused like its being right now. It seriously needs a hotifix so that people can't shoot while no one can see them except for that tiny shimmer If the decloak delay is really that long in 3rd person then it should be changed
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:14:00 - [98] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Your the one who said you had "inferior equipment" Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD So now it's everyone else's inferior equipment anything but your crutch. Maybe just maybe your making too many excuses rather then seeing the obvious. Now where did I say I had inferior equipment? All I did was point out yet another excuse you used to defend cloaks allowing you to fire before uncloaked. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
DISGRUNTLEDev 335	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:15:00 - [99] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: As a shotgun/NK scout, i agree. The cloak should not be abused like its being right now. It seriously needs a hotifix so that people can't shoot while no one can see them except for that tiny shimmer But even a 2 second delay after decloaking makes it fairly worthless. I don't need the cloak to cross most open ground, I've been hiding from LoLogis with FOTM weapons for over a year, I need it to sneak past the gate guards in the city, or sneak past the heavy to kill his logi so my squad can clean up. 5 seconds, which someone proposed, or heaven forbid, 10 seconds, would make it utterly garbage. That said, as a crusty scout, it's handy, but sticking with the old skills is a far better battle plan, nerf or not.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1239	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:18:00 - [100] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Your the one who said you had "inferior equipment" Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD So now it's everyone else's inferior equipment anything but your crutch. Maybe just maybe your making too many excuses rather then seeing the obvious. Now where did I say I had inferior equipment? All I did was point out yet another excuse you used to defend cloaks allowing you to fire before uncloaked. You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you.

PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 1023	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:25:00 - [101] - Quote I'm still invisible while I pull my shotty out. But I don't decloak instablap, I decloak outta sight, with enough time to flank and stay out of his line of sight. The spot at the ends where the screen ends? That's your safe haven as a scout, or his back. I only instablap if I happen to be near-by and they instablapped me. I'll admit I like my crutch but its not fair to everyone else. And Dexter if they get 'situational awareness' you'll be complaining about aware people cause you cant rely on your crutch anymore. So just leave it alone. That might work. I am the shadow, and the ghost in your eyes, I am the scout, that hunts in the night -Shadow Scout Sits on Perch
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:36:00 - [102] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you. How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1242	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:40:00 - [103] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you. How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? I like how you continue to ignore the fact that you can see cloaked scouts
Rusty Shallows 1278	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:47:00 - [104] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: After 3am now, the Forum PvP is still going strong, and the tuna and crackers is running out. Sometimes I wished the forums were less interesting. It really detracts from my play time. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 813	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:49:00 - [105] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you. How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? I like how you continue to ignore the fact that you can see cloaked scouts Never said you couldn't... My beef is being able to fire before being de-cloaked. Seeing as I am not the only one seeing it, or able to do it that means it's not lag or my TV. CCP said you wouldn't be able to fire while cloaked so it's a fair complaint, even if it's due to the crappy animation, invisible is invisible. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1242	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:58:00 - [106] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you. How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? I like how you continue to ignore the fact that you can see cloaked scouts Never said you couldn't... My beef is being able to fire before being de-cloaked. Seeing as I am not the only one seeing it, or able to do it that means it's not lag or my TV. CCP said you wouldn't be able to fire while cloaked so it's a fair complaint, even if it's due to the crappy animation, invisible is invisible. Ive never supported that animation bug And it is a bug/bad 3rd person animation as the cloak goes away as soon as my 1st shot is fired
Cosgar ParagonX 9154	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:59:00 - [107] - Quote Either you're blind to a shimmering predator like thing running past you or you're dealing with camping scouts that actually use the cloak wisely. The former is pretty easy to spot while the latter might take some getting used to. The only change I would make (if any) is to make the decloaking sound as loud for everyone in direct proximity as it is for the person using it. That way, if you're say hacking a supply depot and hear that sound, you at least warn teammates that there's a cloaked in that area. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5362	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:25:00 - [108] - Quote closing in on two days from creation, tryhards still arguing, cooking steak, almost burned myself from laughing too hard. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 852	Posted - 2014.03.28 08:37:00 - [109] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times I don't understand the hassle. I sneak killed before the cloak, and I do it now. Funny its harder now that the cloak is out as mots people suddenly recognize that sitiuational awareness is important. Pre 1.8 I could stand beneath to redberries without them noticing me just because I didn't not appear on their Tac Net it was hilarious. Now everyone is on the watch for cloaked scouts making my job a lot harder. To the OP the only thing that needs to be fixed is the bug where you can switch to your weapon without decloaking. Apart from that the cloak is fine. 1. it's not hard to see cloaked scout if you pay attention 2. a cloaked scout is helpless when you start shooting at him he can't shoot back, he fist need to switch to his weapon and this gives you always the edge. 3. there is still a noise when cloaking/decloaking 4. most scouts can still be scanned 5. If you do not pay to attention to your surroundings any one would be able to kill you...
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 443	Posted - 2014.03.28 09:31:00 - [110] - Quote Love the cloak but it's need some work I have a suggestion. Make the timer before you can use weapons longer like 1-2 seconds But if we do this take away the shimmer while walking and have it light upp when sprinting Makes the cloak a defensive scout thing not a slayer outfit thing Regards War never changes

Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 313	Posted - 2014.03.28 10:52:00 - [111] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times I don't understand the hassle. I sneak killed before the cloak, and I do it now. Funny its harder now that the cloak is out as mots people suddenly recognize that sitiuational awareness is important. Pre 1.8 I could stand beneath to redberries without them noticing me just because I didn't not appear on their Tac Net it was hilarious. Now everyone is on the watch for cloaked scouts making my job a lot harder. Pre 1.8 you could do the same with a gal proto logi (or any other medium suit) if you were willing to sacrifice 1 or your plates for a complex damp (2 if someone turned up with a proto scanner) I was surprised (considering the scanner QQ) that only (what seemed like) a handful of people ever bothered doing it. I guess it's easier to come to the forums and cry about something than it is to up your game??
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 853	Posted - 2014.03.28 12:40:00 - [112] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times I don't understand the hassle. I sneak killed before the cloak, and I do it now. Funny its harder now that the cloak is out as mots people suddenly recognize that sitiuational awareness is important. Pre 1.8 I could stand beneath to redberries without them noticing me just because I didn't not appear on their Tac Net it was hilarious. Now everyone is on the watch for cloaked scouts making my job a lot harder. Pre 1.8 you could do the same with a gal proto logi (or any other medium suit) if you were willing to sacrifice 1 or your plates for a complex damp (2 if someone turned up with a proto scanner) I was surprised (considering the scanner QQ) that only (what seemed like) a handful of people ever bothered doing it. I guess it's easier to come to the forums and cry about something than it is to up your game?? In 9 out of 10 games I never encountered someone with a protoscanner, but yeah I ran a dampener on anything above std in my suits...so being sneaky was never a problem
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2280	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:18:00 - [113] - Quote In honesty that's the only problem with cloak. CCP said we will allow you to shoot while cloaked, but a single round will use ALL your charge. We said we would rather them not fire from the cloak AT ALL CCP said as soon you change from cloak you will decloak We said great (thinking by the time you pulled out the shotgun, you would be fully uncloaked) CCP gives us this. It's not lag, it is repeatable, all you do is use your quick switch to change to your primary, you get about 3 secs before you decloak to shoot the living **** out of that guy infront of you. Soultions: 1) Decloak faster, decloak louder, by the time the cortex is put away you should be fully uncloaked. Simple 2) Weapons take longer to switch to while cloaked, so you change to fthe shotgu n with your quick switch the shotgun won't be up until you finish decloaking. 3) Weapons fired before the cloak is fully uncloaked will expend its energy, that way you have a small window to shoot while invisible, but doing so results in you not being able to cloak for a very long time. Pick One CCP easy peasy. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5428	Posted - 2014.03.28 13:22:00 - [114] - Quote two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2285	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:08:00 - [115] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5499	Posted - 2014.03.29 04:03:00 - [116] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Read around I've been trying to fix cloaks as well. These are just little trolling quips made to poke fun, don't take them too seriously, making assumptions of my character and even worse comparing me to spkr is uncalled for. Also, complain about what, you lost me... TLDR: it's just a joke, calm yo ***. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja* Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Storm Shelton 0uter.Heaven 189	Posted - 2014.03.29 04:35:00 - [117] - Quote I don't call them cloaks. I call them Suit Sparklers. O_O They make your suit so shiney..... Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm Director of PAND3M0N1UM Medical Vending Machine^^Nanite Delight
Fyra Yacile Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:47:00 - [118] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Then you're a bad shot. Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload. Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. Sure The instant the R2 button is pressed the cloak is turned off No way to shot anymore that 1 shot even with lag. Dexter, seriously stop. I know you're defending your crutch, we all do. The only one defending this is you. GG newb scrub GTFO. Used a Logi suit as a slayer logi ... complains at others running FoTM .... Ironic isn't it
Fyra Yacile Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:49:00 - [119] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Jump back in your Tank ..
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2298	Posted - 2014.03.29 11:31:00 - [120] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Read around I've been trying to fix cloaks as well. These are just little trolling quips made to poke fun, don't take them too seriously, making assumptions of my character and even worse comparing me to spkr is uncalled for. Also, complain about what, you lost me... TLDR: it's just a joke, calm yo ****. My apologies, you were the unlucky 100,000th customer to my vault of understanding. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2298	Posted - 2014.03.29 11:34:00 - [121] - Quote Fyra Yacile wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Jump back in your Tank .. Mentions a tanker who wants invincible tanks as insult. Tells me Im a tanker, fantastic. That's a good one, look me up, see how pointless that insult actually was! Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 349	Posted - 2014.03.29 12:21:00 - [122] - Quote Its funny how that people thought with the nerf to rof with the shotgun, their now the most abundant weapon on the field most of the time. See sentinels with shotguns, commandos with them, and a lot of scouts with them... Im running plasma cannon and magsec. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Sidearms are terribly underestimated.


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