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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:43:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Spartykins wrote:Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault.
What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo
You're just making **** up. This is your argument for cloaks remaining as they are? Pretending my TV and internet suck? Enjoy your nerf, it'll come don't you worry.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1132
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:47:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Spartykins wrote:Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault.
What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo
So your argument is "cloaks are fine because you can see them easily if you don't have crappy internet or TV" correct? If cloaked scouts are so easy to see then why are you defending them so furiously? I think the rest of the thread posters have you pegged you FotM chasing, crutch needing, scruffy looking, nerf herder!
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1231
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:48:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Spartykins wrote:Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault.
What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo You're just making **** up. This is your argument for cloaks remaining as they are? Pretending my TV and internet suck? Enjoy your nerf, it'll come don't you worry. Your the one who said you had "inferior equipment" |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1236
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Posted - 2014.03.27 23:49:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Spartykins wrote:Dexter307 wrote: If your playing on a 5 inch tv where your internet is a mobile hotspot you made with your phone then yes its your fault.
What? He has no real argument so he's spouting nonsense in denial of the obvious. You say that because you have a bad tv and internet that the game should be balenced around you Thats the nonsence here imo So your argument is "cloaks are fine because you can see them easily if you don't have crappy internet or TV" correct? If cloaked scouts are so easy to see then why are you defending them so furiously? I think the rest of the thread posters have you pegged you FotM chasing, crutch needing, scruffy looking, nerf herder! Because theres no reason to nerf them The only people who want them nerfed are people who were used to being able to use constant scanner spam If other people and i can see cloaked scouts why cant you? |
Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
83
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:02:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. I can attest to this myself. My Nova Knives remain invisible for about a second. So the same probably apples to any other gun. |
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:05:00 -
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As a shotgun/NK scout, i agree. The cloak should not be abused like its being right now. It seriously needs a hotifix so that people can't shoot while no one can see them except for that tiny shimmer
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1238
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:08:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:As a shotgun/NK scout, i agree. The cloak should not be abused like its being right now. It seriously needs a hotifix so that people can't shoot while no one can see them except for that tiny shimmer If the decloak delay is really that long in 3rd person then it should be changed |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
813
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:14:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote: Your the one who said you had "inferior equipment"
Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD So now it's everyone else's inferior equipment anything but your crutch. Maybe just maybe your making too many excuses rather then seeing the obvious.
Now where did I say I had inferior equipment? All I did was point out yet another excuse you used to defend cloaks allowing you to fire before uncloaked.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
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DISGRUNTLEDev
335
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:15:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:As a shotgun/NK scout, i agree. The cloak should not be abused like its being right now. It seriously needs a hotifix so that people can't shoot while no one can see them except for that tiny shimmer But even a 2 second delay after decloaking makes it fairly worthless. I don't need the cloak to cross most open ground, I've been hiding from LoLogis with FOTM weapons for over a year, I need it to sneak past the gate guards in the city, or sneak past the heavy to kill his logi so my squad can clean up. 5 seconds, which someone proposed, or heaven forbid, 10 seconds, would make it utterly garbage.
That said, as a crusty scout, it's handy, but sticking with the old skills is a far better battle plan, nerf or not. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1239
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:18:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Your the one who said you had "inferior equipment"
Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:No it's his internet connection that never experiences lag and his eyes that can see invisible scouts in the heat of battle. He hears that de-cloaking sound a can always turn in time to drop them, his awesomeness is what makes cloaks not a problem for the rest of us. Everyone can see scouts who are cloaked and moving, sometimes while standing still as well. If you cant mabey its time to upgrade to a tv bigger than 5 inchs And yes, ive turned around and shot scouts who tried to sneak up on my its not that hard to do If a scout can "Empty his whole mag" before decloaking then your connections failing. Mabey dial up internet and using your cell phone as a mobile hotspot isnt the best idea XD So now it's everyone else's inferior equipment anything but your crutch. Maybe just maybe your making too many excuses rather then seeing the obvious. Now where did I say I had inferior equipment? All I did was point out yet another excuse you used to defend cloaks allowing you to fire before uncloaked. You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you. |
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
1023
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:25:00 -
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I'm still invisible while I pull my shotty out. But I don't decloak instablap, I decloak outta sight, with enough time to flank and stay out of his line of sight. The spot at the ends where the screen ends? That's your safe haven as a scout, or his back. I only instablap if I happen to be near-by and they instablapped me. I'll admit I like my crutch but its not fair to everyone else. And Dexter if they get 'situational awareness' you'll be complaining about aware people cause you cant rely on your crutch anymore. So just leave it alone. That might work.
I am the shadow, and the ghost in your eyes, I am the scout, that hunts in the night
-Shadow Scout
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
813
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:
You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you.
How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it?
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1242
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:40:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you.
How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? I like how you continue to ignore the fact that you can see cloaked scouts |
Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:47:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:After 3am now, the Forum PvP is still going strong, and the tuna and crackers is running out. Sometimes I wished the forums were less interesting. It really detracts from my play time.
Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
813
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:49:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you.
How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? I like how you continue to ignore the fact that you can see cloaked scouts
Never said you couldn't... My beef is being able to fire before being de-cloaked. Seeing as I am not the only one seeing it, or able to do it that means it's not lag or my TV. CCP said you wouldn't be able to fire while cloaked so it's a fair complaint, even if it's due to the crappy animation, invisible is invisible.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1242
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:58:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:
You implied it in the post you quoted Your also ignoring the fact that you can see cloaked scouts If you want a shooter where all you have to worry about is mindlessly running around maybe COD is the game for you.
How did I imply it? I make fun of your superhuman senses, then you claim its my TV and internet, and I sarcastically reply to that. You are the one who brought five inch TV and dial up into it. Reading comprehension isn't really your thing is it? I like how you continue to ignore the fact that you can see cloaked scouts Never said you couldn't... My beef is being able to fire before being de-cloaked. Seeing as I am not the only one seeing it, or able to do it that means it's not lag or my TV. CCP said you wouldn't be able to fire while cloaked so it's a fair complaint, even if it's due to the crappy animation, invisible is invisible. Ive never supported that animation bug And it is a bug/bad 3rd person animation as the cloak goes away as soon as my 1st shot is fired |
Cosgar
ParagonX
9154
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:59:00 -
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Either you're blind to a shimmering predator like thing running past you or you're dealing with camping scouts that actually use the cloak wisely. The former is pretty easy to spot while the latter might take some getting used to. The only change I would make (if any) is to make the decloaking sound as loud for everyone in direct proximity as it is for the person using it. That way, if you're say hacking a supply depot and hear that sound, you at least warn teammates that there's a cloaked in that area.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5362
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Posted - 2014.03.28 01:25:00 -
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closing in on two days from creation, tryhards still arguing, cooking steak, almost burned myself from laughing too hard.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
852
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Posted - 2014.03.28 08:37:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times
I don't understand the hassle. I sneak killed before the cloak, and I do it now. Funny its harder now that the cloak is out as mots people suddenly recognize that sitiuational awareness is important.
Pre 1.8 I could stand beneath to redberries without them noticing me just because I didn't not appear on their Tac Net it was hilarious. Now everyone is on the watch for cloaked scouts making my job a lot harder.
To the OP the only thing that needs to be fixed is the bug where you can switch to your weapon without decloaking. Apart from that the cloak is fine.
1. it's not hard to see cloaked scout if you pay attention
2. a cloaked scout is helpless when you start shooting at him he can't shoot back, he fist need to switch to his weapon and this gives you always the edge.
3. there is still a noise when cloaking/decloaking
4. most scouts can still be scanned
5. If you do not pay to attention to your surroundings any one would be able to kill you... |
Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
443
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Posted - 2014.03.28 09:31:00 -
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Love the cloak but it's need some work
I have a suggestion.
Make the timer before you can use weapons longer like 1-2 seconds But if we do this take away the shimmer while walking and have it light upp when sprinting
Makes the cloak a defensive scout thing not a slayer outfit thing
Regards
War never changes
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
313
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:52:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times I don't understand the hassle. I sneak killed before the cloak, and I do it now. Funny its harder now that the cloak is out as mots people suddenly recognize that sitiuational awareness is important. Pre 1.8 I could stand beneath to redberries without them noticing me just because I didn't not appear on their Tac Net it was hilarious. Now everyone is on the watch for cloaked scouts making my job a lot harder.
Pre 1.8 you could do the same with a gal proto logi (or any other medium suit) if you were willing to sacrifice 1 or your plates for a complex damp (2 if someone turned up with a proto scanner)
I was surprised (considering the scanner QQ) that only (what seemed like) a handful of people ever bothered doing it.
I guess it's easier to come to the forums and cry about something than it is to up your game?? |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
853
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Posted - 2014.03.28 12:40:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Hey guys, remember how all the scouts were demanding cloaks but didnt have them Good times, good times I don't understand the hassle. I sneak killed before the cloak, and I do it now. Funny its harder now that the cloak is out as mots people suddenly recognize that sitiuational awareness is important. Pre 1.8 I could stand beneath to redberries without them noticing me just because I didn't not appear on their Tac Net it was hilarious. Now everyone is on the watch for cloaked scouts making my job a lot harder. Pre 1.8 you could do the same with a gal proto logi (or any other medium suit) if you were willing to sacrifice 1 or your plates for a complex damp (2 if someone turned up with a proto scanner) I was surprised (considering the scanner QQ) that only (what seemed like) a handful of people ever bothered doing it. I guess it's easier to come to the forums and cry about something than it is to up your game??
In 9 out of 10 games I never encountered someone with a protoscanner, but yeah I ran a dampener on anything above std in my suits...so being sneaky was never a problem |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2280
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:18:00 -
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In honesty that's the only problem with cloak.
CCP said we will allow you to shoot while cloaked, but a single round will use ALL your charge. We said we would rather them not fire from the cloak AT ALL CCP said as soon you change from cloak you will decloak We said great (thinking by the time you pulled out the shotgun, you would be fully uncloaked) CCP gives us this.
It's not lag, it is repeatable, all you do is use your quick switch to change to your primary, you get about 3 secs before you decloak to shoot the living **** out of that guy infront of you.
Soultions:
1) Decloak faster, decloak louder, by the time the cortex is put away you should be fully uncloaked. Simple 2) Weapons take longer to switch to while cloaked, so you change to fthe shotgu n with your quick switch the shotgun won't be up until you finish decloaking. 3) Weapons fired before the cloak is fully uncloaked will expend its energy, that way you have a small window to shoot while invisible, but doing so results in you not being able to cloak for a very long time.
Pick One CCP easy peasy.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5428
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:22:00 -
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two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2285
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:08:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast.
Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would.
That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
5499
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:03:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Read around I've been trying to fix cloaks as well.
These are just little trolling quips made to poke fun, don't take them too seriously, making assumptions of my character and even worse comparing me to spkr is uncalled for.
Also, complain about what, you lost me...
TLDR: it's just a joke, calm yo ****.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Storm Shelton
0uter.Heaven
189
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Posted - 2014.03.29 04:35:00 -
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I don't call them cloaks. I call them Suit Sparklers.
O_O They make your suit so shiney.....
Tanker alt -- Quasar Storm
Director of PAND3M0N1UM
Medical Vending Machine^^Nanite Delight
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Fyra Yacile
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:47:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Then you're a bad shot.
Seriously if you hit R1 before the shotty is fully 'pulled out' you can shoot it. Just like sprinting to save 25% off that last bar on your reload.
Just like pressing R1 before the reloading animation is completed on the shotgun. Sure The instant the R2 button is pressed the cloak is turned off No way to shot anymore that 1 shot even with lag. Dexter, seriously stop. I know you're defending your crutch, we all do. The only one defending this is you. GG newb scrub GTFO.
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Fyra Yacile
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:49:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance.
Jump back in your Tank .. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2298
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:31:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:two and a half days now, tryhards still complaining, about to eat a nice egg/sausage breakfast, perhaps with toast. Dude you spent how long complaining? All we want is that cloak works the way CCP told us it would. That you aren't cloaked when you fire rounds, other than that their is little quible. The fact you still go on like absolutely nothing wrong reaches near Spkr levels of arrogance. Read around I've been trying to fix cloaks as well. These are just little trolling quips made to poke fun, don't take them too seriously, making assumptions of my character and even worse comparing me to spkr is uncalled for. Also, complain about what, you lost me... TLDR: it's just a joke, calm yo ****.
My apologies, you were the unlucky 100,000th customer to my vault of understanding.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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