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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5256	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:15:00 - [31] - Quote Tuna is gone, faint taste of mustard/relish still in my mouth, that Cotsy dude keeps on labeling scouts and I have a feeling he's not actually talked to any of the veteran scouts on the matter and is just being a Dbag. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 916	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:16:00 - [32] - Quote Tankers(the real ones) see x3 hardeners as a problem. Same with the pre1.8 scouts with cloaks. I started scouts with 1.6, and i love this cloak, gives new tools. Just the same with pre 1.7 tankers and their hatred of x3 hardener particle cannon rails, true scouts hate people abusing scout frames with bricktanks and exploit cloaks. Same with legit snipers and their hatred of redline sniping/headglitches. Same with post-nerf massholes who saw the flooding of Heavy+MD in whatever patch it was. Do you need more examples? I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
mollerz 2985	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:17:00 - [33] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Tuna is gone, faint taste of mustard/relish still in my mouth, that Cotsy dude keeps on labeling scouts and I have a feeling he's not actually talked to any of the veteran scouts on the matter and is just being a Dbag. More like he probably thought he was good until the game changed and he couldn't adapt. He got his win button removed You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 916	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:17:00 - [34] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Tuna is gone, faint taste of mustard/relish still in my mouth, that Cotsy dude keeps on labeling scouts and I have a feeling he's not actually talked to any of the veteran scouts on the matter and is just being a Dbag. Damnit. Now i gotta grab a can of tuna. prays Cat Merc doesn't show up with cloak to steal it I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 114	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:20:00 - [35] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Cotsy8 wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Shotguns alone are fine- i even laugh when my proto scout is killed by a commando shotty. It's when scrubs like you find a way to shoot someone whilst being invisible that pisses me off. Like asshats who use SSD's to load matches 10 seconds early, and to make sure their excessive nano spam doesn't effect them. Stop posting in my thread. You're not being constructive nor critical, only scrub. Once again Its lag. If I, the so called "scrub" can kill cloaked scouts with ease then why cant you? Scouts got a really nice buff in 1.8 without cloaks, you saying you sucked at 1.7 and needed more than an extra slot and equipment slot.. And on top of that more suit options? Its a crutch for your broken leg, i mean broken tactics. Don't have the awareness to hack without checking surroundings, well just cloak. Can't sneak up using positional play on foes, well cloaks will help accomplish your ** play. Don't know when to engage an enemy, well a cloak will help. Want to run across wide distances in the open with a fragile suits, cloak. Just gameplay rewarded. No skill required. No strategy or kill anymore. Just cloak run straight at someone and attack them. No flanking, just run straight to the front lines and enrage foes. Its a joke, any scout from open beta should be embarrassed that a scout has come down to this bullshit. Scouts, some had a difficult time, weren't broken in 1.7 - so scouts got a nice buff, more flexibility, more adaptability, more options (got one hi and one low on suits that were released and 2 new suits with great functionality) ... Why do you need a cloak, scouts would be been plenty good without then. Cloaks are a crutch and scouts are bitches for not seeing that cloaks are junk. If your just going to ignore everything I say then im not going to argue with you. Time to make use of the hide posts feature Did you get those crutches from the CCP hospital? You make no supporting arguments and Haven't disputed any of mine. I played with you a few times and its ridiculous that you can't recognize a problem, i played with you before 1.7... Things are very different and it's not cause you got better all of a sudden. Its cause i cant see you after you've shot me, and not once. You killed me several times in a few matches and i couldn't see you. You shouldn't need a cloak to kill someone or put up good "numbers". You can see cloaked scouts, congrats. Many have a hard time, and many have a hard time seeing you after you've shot gunned them. So you can take your crutch and be oblivious to the lack of skill now required to run a 6 k/d scout. This isn't the intended role, this shouldn't be a slayer Logi 2.0 Its disappointing that scouts are following the denial train of tankers. Cloaks aren't UP or weak, they aren't necessary because they are not needed for a scout to excel. Scouts got their boost and dont need a crutch to excuse their ** gameplay. You're not some hero scout slayer carrying the team x7 scouts all being heroes. It's like deny deny deny so you don't get nerf'd. Its absurd not to see the difference from scout gameplay, scout scores, scout role...etc I get it, scouts love their new toy. I like cloaks too, i just know they are useless and not required for a scout to be good. Which doesn't seem to be the case for many scouts or those former Logi slayers who are now scouts.
mollerz 2985	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:27:00 - [36] - Quote Cotsy8 wrote: Did you get those crutches from the CCP hospital? Were you at the hospital for your extreme butt hurt? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 599	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:36:00 - [37] - Quote CCP has acknowledged that the insta shooting while still being cloaked is a bug. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=150935&find=unread It'll probably be hotfixed SoonGäó. I game over like a boss.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5257	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:38:00 - [38] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cotsy8 wrote: Did you get those crutches from the CCP hospital? Were you at the hospital for your extreme butt hurt? Sorry it's too perfect. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:47:00 - [39] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. There was no reason to put something this stupid in the game Dust is not built on a engine that can handle such a complex thing like a cloak i guess you get what you pay for with this free to play pile of dog poo The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 649	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:50:00 - [40] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing nope, I've been seeing the same thing. CR toting scouts, cloaked logis, and even a cloaked pistoleer commando. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms

Atheor Sindromer Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 72	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:51:00 - [41] - Quote Actually no, cloak is just fine and makes stealth scout fittings viable. I find it pretty funny how almost everyone and their mother complained that the cloak would be useless with the 'glimmer effect' and now that people are getting dropped on by scouts (you know, as was always intended with them), they start crying nerf. There's nothing OP about the cloak. You just need to adapt and be more aware of your surroundings. Love the sinner, hate the Sindromer.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.03.27 06:56:00 - [42] - Quote I actually think that the communities uproar might be something of a worry for scouts. If they are loud enough a nerf will come. Fear the nerf scouts...fear it. Fun > Realism
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4625	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:10:00 - [43] - Quote Considering the fact that if you PAY ATTENTION, you can SEE the cloaked enemies before they can shoot you EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STILL CLOAKED... ...I'd say we're good. Lrn2eyes.
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 342	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:15:00 - [44] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: I actually think that the communities uproar might be something of a worry for scouts. If they are loud enough a nerf will come. Fear the nerf scouts...fear it. Scouts don't need a nerf (well maybe for the brick tanked ones) it's the cloak that needs a nerf/bug fix i will be the first to say that alot of you guys lack complete situational awareness I shouldn't be able to cloak right infront of you and make u guys lose me its ******* sad but yes either fix cloaks or nerf them scout suits are for the most part fine "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 921	Posted - 2014.03.27 07:22:00 - [45] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Considering the fact that if you PAY ATTENTION, you can SEE the cloaked enemies before they can shoot you EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STILL CLOAKED... ...I'd say we're good. Lrn2eyes. It's not the fact that i can't see them, that part's fine. It's the fact that they're bricktanked, taking out my 200hp Ewar scout(which passively scans past their cheapass cloak) is being killed by the person i just found. It goes like this: Cr/Nk scout with a precision mod on, find scout who's sneak sneaking about- release fire on scout, he jumps to te nearest blue thing(wall, streetpost, nanohive, yadda yadda) and stands still. The moment i look 5 degrees off he lunges(albeit slowly) after his shields regen and 1hko's me. That's not skill. That's relying on bad mechanics/brick tanks to kill everything in sight. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2067	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:43:00 - [46] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. No, just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic cause its the only way you can get kills. My situational awareness has nothing to do with the fact you can dump a shotgun magazine before you finish decloaking. Scrub. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2067	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:46:00 - [47] - Quote Atheor Sindromer wrote: Actually no, cloak is just fine and makes stealth scout fittings viable. I find it pretty funny how almost everyone and their mother complained that the cloak would be useless with the 'glimmer effect' and now that people are getting dropped on by scouts (you know, as was always intended with them), they start crying nerf. There's nothing OP about the cloak. You just need to adapt and be more aware of your surroundings. Nothing to do with the fact they can unload a shotgun cloaked. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2067	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:47:00 - [48] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Considering the fact that if you PAY ATTENTION, you can SEE the cloaked enemies before they can shoot you EVEN WHEN THEY'RE STILL CLOAKED... ...I'd say we're good. Lrn2eyes. It's not the fact that i can't see them, that part's fine. It's the fact that they're bricktanked, taking out my 200hp Ewar scout(which passively scans past their cheapass cloak) is being killed by the person i just found. It goes like this: Cr/Nk scout with a precision mod on, find scout who's sneak sneaking about- release fire on scout, he jumps to te nearest blue thing(wall, streetpost, nanohive, yadda yadda) and stands still. The moment i look 5 degrees off he lunges(albeit slowly) after his shields regen and 1hko's me. That's not skill. That's relying on bad mechanics/brick tanks to kill everything in sight. this Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 842	Posted - 2014.03.27 11:56:00 - [49] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. I have On my screen i am decloaked before i can shoot Its possible as you are still partly invisible while the decloak process, but honestly seeing cloaked scouts is already easy. Cloak scout seem to attract way more bullets than uncloaked ones. To OP: Those who have problems with cloaked scout are those who rely completely to their tac net and scanners...no awareness. Before you ask yes I have killed by scouts with shot guns as well but guess what I try to pay more attention and by this I have killed numerous cloaked scouts. And I have been killed quite a few times as I thought the cloak would protect me while crossing an open space. So I can kill cloaked scouts, others can kill them so the question is why can't you?
Scar Scrilla UN1TED NATIONS Caps and Mercs 194	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:04:00 - [50] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: After 3am now, the Forum PvP is still going strong, and the tuna and crackers is running out. Time to switch to dolphin and tortillas.... "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" "Go and hack the letter(s)" - Join our public channel: UN1TE

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1213	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:16:00 - [51] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. No, just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic cause its the only way you can get kills. My situational awareness has nothing to do with the fact you can dump a shotgun magazine before you finish decloaking. Scrub. Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1213	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:20:00 - [52] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing No. Do it yourself- shotgun + cloak. Pull up cloak, activate. Press R2 and within the next .5 seconds press R1, you will shoot before you even decloak. While this may be lag, it's more just the fact the game 'puts away' your cloak wayy to late. Why there needs to be a delay before you can shoot. However this scrublet wants to keep his toy cause its the only way he gets kills with his brick scout. Wow, the QQ coming from you is amazing. I run precision mods, kincats, and range amplifiers on my scout It seems like your upset because you have to have some sort of situational awarness now I can defiently tell your upset and its quite amusing to see players who cant adapt to the evolving state of dust Adapt or die Ive ran scout long before this so dont even bother with any sort of FotM talk. No, just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic cause its the only way you can get kills. My situational awareness has nothing to do with the fact you can dump a shotgun magazine before you finish decloaking. Scrub. Actually it does. Other people including my self can kill cloaked scouts so why can't you? Next time put a bit more focus on your awareness and less on the radar
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2070	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:33:00 - [53] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 265	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:34:00 - [54] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. So you expect to survive a HMG with your anemic scout inside 30 m?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1213	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:38:00 - [55] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. All I can see is QQ from a person who can't adapt, the majority are adjusting to cloaks and are ok with them. Mabey cod would be a better game for you. No cloaks and it's designed around not needing awareness to get kills
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 929	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:49:00 - [56] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. So you expect to survive a HMG with your anemic scout inside 30 m? No, i'm talking of not being able to damage them within 50m without their HMG gibbing me as my magsec does less DPS than them at a range. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2443	Posted - 2014.03.27 12:54:00 - [57] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Obviously your the scrub if your the one getting killed by cloaked players. I kill them with ease, so if you can't then it's your fault I kill plenty of you scrubs to satisfy my appetite. Just sad to see you defend a broken mechanic ago you can pretend you are good. All I can see is QQ from a person who can't adapt, the majority are adjusting to cloaks and are ok with them. Mabey cod would be a better game for you. No cloaks and it's designed around not needing awareness to get kills You... You wouldn't happen to be an alt of Takahiro or Spkr, would you? Your pathetic defense of a broken mechanic is amusing me. And whoever it was who suggested tankers (aside from the aforementioned) are defending triple hardened tanks...? DIAF. ak.0 4 LYFE Guess who's butthurt about light-assaults!? <------This guy!!
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 260	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:05:00 - [58] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: HAHAHAHA SHOTGUN QQ I NEVER THOUGH I WOULD SEE THE DAY Seriously, this is priceless. Overpowered shotguns? Overpowered scouts? I'm living in a parallel universe!
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1884	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:11:00 - [59] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Scouts have cloaks- i like it. Scouts shooting creodron shotties from cloak, before cloak even wears off- get that ** outta here! It's bullshit how as a scout, it doesn't matter that i found a brick tanked cloaky scout, he just jumps left, jukes immediately right and dodges you, shooting you before the cloak even uncloaks. It's not skill. It's not 'gg scout you outsmarted me' it's ' you damned exploiting ***' Either cripple the cloak, or make it so when disabling, you have to press the button first, not this swap weapon and instashoot bullshit. Edit: i love this patch, having tons of fun, except for the times i meet a cloaked assassin who kills my cloaked assassin-ness by simply killing me while cloaked. Why even have the restriction of no shooting while cloaked? It's gamebreaking. Also the HMG should've gotten a nerf, even a 5% one- the killing potential of these is BS, my speed tank scout whok sprints at 10 can't even dodge a basic HMG, from even 30m away. HMG is murderous. I like it that way, but it's even worse than 1.7 with the rail rifle fiasco. Cloak should work like in Eve. Activate, roam freely about the map with no time constraints so long as you stay X meters away from any objective, player or vehicle. If you want to use something other than the cloak whether it is equipment, grenade or a weapon, you should be required to actively swap to the other item though have it delayed by 5-10 or so in responding. The cloak should go away immediately once you swap, though the item swapped to shouldn't be in hand until the delay has passed. I think that would be a much better scenario with much less tears. Personally, IDGAF about them, so what, I got killed by a cloaked scout. However, I have heard and seen more rage over cloaks in the past 2 days than I have over vehicles in the past 2 months. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 294	Posted - 2014.03.27 13:14:00 - [60] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Disagree Its most likely lag your experiencing Says the shotgunning cloaked scout. We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..



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