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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:26:00 -
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do not worry my amarr fellows iron wolf saber will come up with a good idea
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2264
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:28:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote: do not worry my amarr fellows iron wolf saber will come up with a good idea Ideas? See were that got us last time.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
273
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:40:00 -
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lolcpm
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Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
588
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:48:00 -
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Poor CCP...they've really backed themselves into a corner, haven't they? Although it makes sense that each suit should have a racial variant, it must be incredibly difficult to try and balance everything out along the lines previously established (i.e. Caldari = shields, Gallente = armor, etc.) Compounding the issue is the fact that the base EHP values weren't too different between the medium and scout suits (or speed, for that matter.) So while the Minny suit becomes more and more "scout-like," the Amarr version (less speed) pushes it closer towards a medium frame suit. CCP needs to ask itself, "Why would I, as a player, choose a supposedly weaker Amarr scout suit if I can get similar performance from a (race x) medium suit?"
Given the EHP monsters that heavy suits will become, I think it's time that the medium suits--particularly the assault class--receive an EHP buff to further separate them from the scout class. In my opinion, it should go (from least EHP to most) Scout->Medium->Logi->Assault->Heavy->Sentinel.
"Trust and you'll be trusted," says the liar to the fool.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1455
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:51:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote: ... If you fit the Amarr Scout poorly then thats what it will be A Poor Scout, but in the hands of Marauder this suit Will be one of the toughest opponents out there.
FTFY |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix
478
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:02:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Poor CCP...they've really backed themselves into a corner, haven't they? Although it makes sense that each suit should have a racial variant, it must be incredibly difficult to try and balance everything out along the lines previously established (i.e. Caldari = shields, Gallente = armor, etc.) Compounding the issue is the fact that the base EHP values weren't too different between the medium and scout suits (or speed, for that matter.) So while the Minny suit becomes more and more "scout-like," the Amarr version (less speed) pushes it closer towards a medium frame suit. CCP needs to ask itself, "Why would I, as a player, choose a supposedly weaker Amarr scout suit if I can get similar performance from a (race x) medium suit?"
Given the EHP monsters that heavy suits will become, I think it's time that the medium suits--particularly the assault class--receive an EHP buff to further separate them from the scout class. In my opinion, it should go (from least EHP to most) Scout->Medium->Logi->Assault->Heavy->Sentinel.
I am more of a fan of the varients straddling the basic version.
This means it would go
Logi < Medium < assault
or something along those lines.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
364
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:38:00 -
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Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
274
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:51:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT -1 :dumb
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
274
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:53:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:TheD1CK wrote: ... If you fit the Amarr Scout poorly then thats what it will be A Poor Scout, but in the hands of Marauder this suit Will be one of the toughest opponents out there.
FTFY agreed : +1
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2266
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:05:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch".
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
417
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:13:00 -
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Not really. Your point is that each suit has a defined role, yet all the Amarr scout got is the stamina of a pron star, and the ability to run for days. It's nice, but certainly useless in the current build of Dust.
The Amarr scout only has 10 less eHP than the Min Logi, can carry 2 equips, and has almost the same PG and CPU as most Logis.
I think the Amarr scout bonus will be huge once the TTK goes up, scout scan profile goes down, and you start stacking complex kincats, complex profile dampeners and such.
My point was that whining about the only perk of the weakest suits in the game does nothing to help your cause.
If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
104
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:15:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Also, for some unknown reason they get 368 CPU/62PG completely breaking away from 1 PG =2.5 CPU paradigm of the other suits.
Where is the downside to this amazing suit?
Try fitting something with 62PG |
Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:21:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Not really. Your point is that each suit has a defined role, yet all the Amarr scout got is the stamina of a pron star, and the ability to run for days. It's nice, but certainly useless in the current build of Dust. The Amarr scout only has 10 less eHP than the Min Logi, can carry 2 equips, and has almost the same PG and CPU as most Logis. I think the Amarr scout bonus will be huge once the TTK goes up, scout scan profile goes down, and you start stacking complex kincats, complex profile dampeners and such. My point was that whining about the only perk of the weakest suits in the game does nothing to help your cause. fail arguments : -1
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:22:00 -
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icdedppul wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Also, for some unknown reason they get 368 CPU/62PG completely breaking away from 1 PG =2.5 CPU paradigm of the other suits.
Where is the downside to this amazing suit?
Try fitting something with 62PG gay :-1
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
364
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:34:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO!
It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage!
Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD!
So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive!
You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left!
If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying!
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2270
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:38:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
417
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:38:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Not really. Your point is that each suit has a defined role, yet all the Amarr scout got is the stamina of a pron star, and the ability to run for days. It's nice, but certainly useless in the current build of Dust. The Amarr scout only has 10 less eHP than the Min Logi, can carry 2 equips, and has almost the same PG and CPU as most Logis. I think the Amarr scout bonus will be huge once the TTK goes up, scout scan profile goes down, and you start stacking complex kincats, complex profile dampeners and such. My point was that whining about the only perk of the weakest suits in the game does nothing to help your cause. fail arguments : -1 I made no arguments. Just stated a few points. I forgot that reading comprehension and logic are frowned upon on these forums. Oh well, back to E.D.F.
If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2270
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:41:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Not really. Your point is that each suit has a defined role, yet all the Amarr scout got is the stamina of a pron star, and the ability to run for days. It's nice, but certainly useless in the current build of Dust. The Amarr scout only has 10 less eHP than the Min Logi, can carry 2 equips, and has almost the same PG and CPU as most Logis. I think the Amarr scout bonus will be huge once the TTK goes up, scout scan profile goes down, and you start stacking complex kincats, complex profile dampeners and such. My point was that whining about the only perk of the weakest suits in the game does nothing to help your cause. fail arguments : -1 I made no arguments. Just stated a few points. I forgot that reading comprehension and logic are frowned upon on these forums. Oh well, back to E.D.F. Dude theres like 4-6 perks that comes with that weakest suit and one of them just treeds too far into another scouts woods.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
259
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP bonuses are amazing. Why, just look at that RR reload bonus! My plasma cannon will also greatly benefit from tighter hipfire!
The hipfire bonus should delay onset of projectile arc for the PlC or some such.
That reload bonus might actually be useful if they knocked it up a couple percent per level. |
Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:50:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! ok Mr.wise guy a min scout wit one complex plate and basic(70+135+85=290 5%+2% speed pen 5.65- 7%=5.25 )will have the samegound speed as amarr scout(5,25) do it mean perhaps a amarr must have a total of 290 armor instead of 170 ?
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
200
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:52:00 -
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I read this entire thing and all I can say is.......
For the love of GOD you're....you're...YOU'RE!!! |
Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2271
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:55:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:I read this entire thing and all I can say is.......
For the love of GOD you're....you're...YOU'RE!!! Ahhhh Es ist ein Grammatik-****-Lauf, w+ñhrend Sie alle noch k+¦nnen
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3477
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:58:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Reign Omega wrote:I read this entire thing and all I can say is.......
For the love of GOD you're....you're...YOU'RE!!! Ahhhh Es ist ein Grammatik-****-Lauf, w+ñhrend Sie alle noch k+¦nnen L'allemands sont tres stricts sur le grammaire
68 inches above sea level...
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2271
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:01:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Reign Omega wrote:I read this entire thing and all I can say is.......
For the love of GOD you're....you're...YOU'RE!!! Ahhhh Es ist ein Grammatik-****-Lauf, w+ñhrend Sie alle noch k+¦nnen L'allemands sont tres stricts sur le grammaire Oui oui, ils sont maintenant chut avant l'un d'eux lit ce
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:12:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Reign Omega wrote:I read this entire thing and all I can say is.......
For the love of GOD you're....you're...YOU'RE!!! Ahhhh Es ist ein Grammatik-****-Lauf, w+ñhrend Sie alle noch k+¦nnen Les allemands sont tr+¿s stricts sur la grammaire
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
364
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:19:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses t set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus dude look at it, indirectly that's the bonus, think about it. It's way more versatile than most people see, you can armor tank, range tank, speed tank, all doing so and having good stamina and decent HP . A caldari can't do this, neither can a min because they lose all HP doing this, the gal is the best hands down cuz it basically has 3 bonuses, but amar has 300 HP without using a single slot, if you guys don't see the benifits in this than you obviously haven't been a full time scout, plus 400 stamina will get you from home base to center map without stopping, that means 1 complex green , 3reds , 2 shields and a cloak an uplinks will get you to a enemy home point frm your base with almost 500 HP without stoping!
Sorry but versatility is your bonus
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2272
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:27:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses t set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus dude look at it, indirectly that's the bonus, think about it. It's way more versatile than most people see, you can armor tank, range tank, speed tank, all doing so and having good stamina and decent HP . A caldari can't do this, neither can a min because they lose all HP doing this, the gal is the best hands down cuz it basically has 3 bonuses, but amar has 300 HP without using a single slot, if you guys don't see the benifits in this than you obviously haven't been a full time scout, plus 400 stamina will get you from home base to center map without stopping, that means 1 complex green , 3reds , 2 shields and a cloak an uplinks will get you to a enemy home point frm your base with almost 500 HP without stoping! Sorry but versatility is your bonus Face to palm over 9000 No that's not indirectly the bonus and if it is then its STUPID. Please for the love of my sanity dont reply because I'll pop a vessel.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Not really. Your point is that each suit has a defined role, yet all the Amarr scout got is the stamina of a pron star, and the ability to run for days. It's nice, but certainly useless in the current build of Dust. The Amarr scout only has 10 less eHP than the Min Logi, can carry 2 equips, and has almost the same PG and CPU as most Logis. I think the Amarr scout bonus will be huge once the TTK goes up, scout scan profile goes down, and you start stacking complex kincats, complex profile dampeners and such. My point was that whining about the only perk of the weakest suits in the game does nothing to help your cause. Dude Magnus didnt say that I did.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:32:00 -
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There isn't a more deserving race for this honor.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:35:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses t set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus dude look at it, indirectly that's the bonus, think about it. It's way more versatile than most people see, you can armor tank, range tank, speed tank, all doing so and having good stamina and decent HP . A caldari can't do this, neither can a min because they lose all HP doing this, the gal is the best hands down cuz it basically has 3 bonuses, but amar has 300 HP without using a single slot, if you guys don't see the benifits in this than you obviously haven't been a full time scout, plus 400 stamina will get you from home base to center map without stopping, that means 1 complex green , 3reds , 2 shields and a cloak an uplinks will get you to a enemy home point frm your base with almost 500 HP without stoping! Sorry but versatility is your bonus
You just don't get it. being good at absolutely nothing does not make you versitile, it just makes you ****. The amarrian scout has 30 more eHP than the baseline... 30. For that 30 eHP, it is SLOWER than an assault suit.
Traversing distances? Minnie suit will be better for than thanks to the stamina regen, and being 1 complex kincat faster. There is literally no reason at all to use an amarr scout. It fills no role, and it is worth less than the other scouts in the other scouts roles.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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