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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:02:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Poor CCP...they've really backed themselves into a corner, haven't they? Although it makes sense that each suit should have a racial variant, it must be incredibly difficult to try and balance everything out along the lines previously established (i.e. Caldari = shields, Gallente = armor, etc.) Compounding the issue is the fact that the base EHP values weren't too different between the medium and scout suits (or speed, for that matter.) So while the Minny suit becomes more and more "scout-like," the Amarr version (less speed) pushes it closer towards a medium frame suit. CCP needs to ask itself, "Why would I, as a player, choose a supposedly weaker Amarr scout suit if I can get similar performance from a (race x) medium suit?"
Given the EHP monsters that heavy suits will become, I think it's time that the medium suits--particularly the assault class--receive an EHP buff to further separate them from the scout class. In my opinion, it should go (from least EHP to most) Scout->Medium->Logi->Assault->Heavy->Sentinel.
I am more of a fan of the varients straddling the basic version.
This means it would go
Logi < Medium < assault
or something along those lines.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.03.14 03:35:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.
The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.
So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .
So if you ran
2x shields
Sg
Scp/ magsec
Cloak
Alloteck hives
3 reds
Green
BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy  And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses t set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus  dude look at it, indirectly that's the bonus, think about it. It's way more versatile than most people see, you can armor tank, range tank, speed tank, all doing so and having good stamina and decent HP . A caldari can't do this, neither can a min because they lose all HP doing this, the gal is the best hands down cuz it basically has 3 bonuses, but amar has 300 HP without using a single slot, if you guys don't see the benifits in this than you obviously haven't been a full time scout, plus 400 stamina will get you from home base to center map without stopping, that means 1 complex green , 3reds , 2 shields and a cloak an uplinks will get you to a enemy home point frm your base with almost 500 HP without stoping! Sorry but versatility is your bonus
You just don't get it. being good at absolutely nothing does not make you versitile, it just makes you ****. The amarrian scout has 30 more eHP than the baseline... 30. For that 30 eHP, it is SLOWER than an assault suit.
Traversing distances? Minnie suit will be better for than thanks to the stamina regen, and being 1 complex kincat faster. There is literally no reason at all to use an amarr scout. It fills no role, and it is worth less than the other scouts in the other scouts roles.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:17:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Your not bright are you I am, you just fail to see that the point is it's not about the mods nor the slots but the bonus itself.
Don't engage the ******. He has proven time and again that he would have a hard time reading a children's book, let alone this thread.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:19:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Speed Tankers like the bonus... Slayers don't .....
Who should CCP try to please with a Scout suit, Slayers/Scouts
No, speed tankers go minmatar. Amarr suit is still the slowest in every way, it can just be slower for longer. Some other guy did the calculations and even with the boost, the amarr scout can't outrun anything.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
501
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:29:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Your not bright are you I am, you just fail to see that the point is it's not about the mods nor the slots but the bonus itself. Don't engage the ******. He has proven time and again that he would have a hard time reading a children's book, let alone this thread. Ya now words hurt too. 
I meant the other guy is the ******, not you. You are ok.
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