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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:

DEZKA DIABLO wrote:

Nocturnal Soul wrote:

DEZKA DIABLO wrote:

Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak.

The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3.

So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless .

So if you ran
2x shields
Sg
Scp/ magsec
Cloak
Alloteck hives
3 reds
Green

BEAST SG FIT

40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy Roll

And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch".

Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO!

It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage!

Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD!

So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive!

You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left!

If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying!

ok Mr.wise guy a min scout wit one complex plate and basic(70+135+85=290 5%+2% speed pen 5.65- 7%=5.25 )will have the samegound speed as amarr scout(5,25) do it mean perhaps a amarr must have a total of 290 armor instead of 170 ?


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DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 364	Posted - 2014.03.14 01:38:00 - [1] - Quote Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak. The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3. So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless . So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green BEAST SG FIT Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 364	Posted - 2014.03.14 02:34:00 - [2] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak. The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3. So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless . So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 364	Posted - 2014.03.14 03:19:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak. The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3. So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless . So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses t set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus dude look at it, indirectly that's the bonus, think about it. It's way more versatile than most people see, you can armor tank, range tank, speed tank, all doing so and having good stamina and decent HP . A caldari can't do this, neither can a min because they lose all HP doing this, the gal is the best hands down cuz it basically has 3 bonuses, but amar has 300 HP without using a single slot, if you guys don't see the benifits in this than you obviously haven't been a full time scout, plus 400 stamina will get you from home base to center map without stopping, that means 1 complex green , 3reds , 2 shields and a cloak an uplinks will get you to a enemy home point frm your base with almost 500 HP without stoping! Sorry but versatility is your bonus Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 365	Posted - 2014.03.14 03:44:00 - [4] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Idk sounds like a lot of qq, minmatar have been shyt since birth, I mean awesome suit but it totally deserves its bonuses, and as long as your running it biotic based for speed or hacking an not dual assault armor shield tank than its still weak. The amar to me is going to be a nasty sg fit or ghost rifle assault fit, either way you don't need a green jar, I personally think the stamina bonus should put it above 400 but 350 is better than under 3. So yea it might be slower but it has more base HP than any scout, an thats without an real speed penalty so basically with armor upgrades five you only need 2 shields, an you also won't waste a green slot, so basically you have 4 free low slots for speed mods, range and damps, and your armor rep can either be a low or equip an your damp can be a cloak so tbh it's actually a really good suit especially since damage mods will be basically pointless . So if you ran 2x shields Sg Scp/ magsec Cloak Alloteck hives 3 reds Green BEAST SG FIT 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses to set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch". Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's a total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying! ok Mr.wise guy a min scout wit one complex plate and basic(70+135+85=290 5%+2% speed pen 5.65- 7%=5.25 )will have the samegound speed as amarr scout(5,25) do it mean perhaps a amarr must have a total of 290 armor instead of 170 ? What's your point mr math?! As is right now a gal can outrun a min and have 450 stamina cuz of slots, I'm trying to help you see the glass half full but if you wanna argue just to argue then troll away, but in reality a real scout would see the positive in its base HP, stamina, an versatility . Is it my first choice , no but I will still get it, since I ll have 3 in 1.8 at proto, it's not horrible especially that you can do so much with it just in a different way than the rest, the cal will see everyone but it's damp and speed andstamina possibilities are worse than amar, so pick the suit that fits your play style , don't gimp yourself just to be a amar scout then complain when you knew it wasn't the suit that was best for you Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 366	Posted - 2014.03.14 07:00:00 - [5] - Quote [ote] 40 more hp woopdie freaking do thats one bullet buddy And dude your basically talking about its slots we know it has that covered it just fails terribly when it comes to bonuses t set apart from the others and tbh and I speak for most people with common sense here "She looks pretty but she's a dumb b*tch".[/quote] Look you don't gotta be a pecker about it, would I get it? FAKNO! It is the weakest IMO , BUT it saves slots sure the cal is a walking proto scanner, but it has two lows and trust me after being min for a year an then having proto gal, two low is garbage! Least it has 4 low, and ya 40 is ok cuz with 170 armor an armor upgrades to 5 that's 212 base armor and with shields to 5 that s 100 base, that's aI total 312WITHOUT A SINGLE MOD! So if your actually planning on scouting it frees up ALL your slots, shyt man for the past yr a min prot had only 343 shields and 88 armor if you ran biotics with your lows, an thats using all your slots and missing a grenade an maybe a proto an basic gun an a compact hive! You can beat that with one slot, not need a stamina jar, use a cloak as damps, and either run no form of rep an have 5 slots to spare or run a rep or compact an have 4 slots left! If your so butthurt bout it go gallente an quit crying just for the novelty of your race, if theirs better suits pick one an stop crying![/quote] Again dude your talking about slots and the thread is about its bonus[/quote] dude look at it, indirectly that's the bonus, think about it. It's way more versatile than most people see, you can armor tank, range tank, speed tank, all doing so and having good stamina and decent HP . A caldari can't do this, neither can a min because they lose all HP doing this, the gal is the best hands down cuz it basically has 3 bonuses, but amar has 300 HP without using a single slot, if you guys don't see the benifits in this than you obviously haven't been a full time scout, plus 400 stamina will get you from home base to center map without stopping, that means 1 complex green , 3reds , 2 shields and a cloak an uplinks will get you to a enemy home point frm your base with almost 500 HP without stoping! Sorry but versatility is your bonus[/quote] Face to palm over 9000 No that's not indirectly the bonus and if it is then its STUPID. Please for the love of my sanity dont reply because I'll pop a vessel. [/quote] Your going on like it needs to be equal or the best, least it hasn't been released yet an you didn't spend 8 months in a horrid suit like I did with minmatar then grind out to get galenete! You wanna talk stupid, your not even a full time scout, an your flipping over a suitYOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEC INTO! Why cuz it's amar? That's stupid! Why don't you wait until its changed, least your getting a suit with 6 slots, a cloak an two equipments when the rest of us had the worst suit for 8 months and it never got fixed till now! Damn dude at least you have the option to get all your sp back and not waste it on something that sucks! What do you think it should have? It's supposed to have more HP and be slower we all knew this, what do you want 22 shots in scp? 800 stamina? Tell us what should it have? Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 367	Posted - 2014.03.14 08:49:00 - [6] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Your going on like it needs to be equal or the best, least it hasn't been released yet an you didn't spend 8 months in a horrid suit like I did with minmatar then grind out to get galenete! You wanna talk stupid, your not even a full time scout, an your flipping over a suitYOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEC INTO! Why cuz it's amar? That's stupid! Why don't you wait until its changed, least your getting a suit with 6 slots, a cloak an two equipments when the rest of us had the worst suit for 8 months and it never got fixed till now! Damn dude at least you have the option to get all your sp back and not waste it on something that sucks! What do you think it should have? It's supposed to have more HP and be slower we all knew this, what do you want 22 shots in scp? 800 stamina? Tell us what should it have? A reason to exist. EDIT: fixed that horrible thing you called formatting Yea thanks my phone screwed it up, can't do 5 quotes , love the punctuation sticklers Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 368	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:47:00 - [7] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: TheD1CK wrote: My Minmatar Scout is usually below 300 HP after buffing it As someone pointed out the Amarr will start with 312 HP provided skills are maxed out in shield/armour Yet the Amarr still complain because they want the OPness The Minmatar Scout is the fastest Scout while being the weakest The Amarr Scout will be the toughest while being the slowest To those you are QQing for no good reason other than If you HP tank your Amarr Scout, it will be a medium frame Which is more than fair as you need to play to the suits strengths Which is simply Distance traveled, as a Scout that is important If you are not willing to adapt to a role of Amarr Scout Here's some advice, don't spec into it Those lows leave options for some awesome fittings Which the Minja has lacked for some time... Now both suits have 6 module slots making both quite useful Edit: Amarr Assault has owned the Matari Assault quite easily Due to the Matari shield tank, Amarr ScR.... Look at the QQ now our scouts will kick your ass Bro why the hell do you'll keep talking about base stats like I'm calling to nerf stamina regain on all suit but the Amarr? The Amarr scout gets a bonus to stamina regain and max if it cant be the best at its "defined role" (what ever the hell that is) its role either needs to be buffed or changed completely. Huh does that make sense does it? Why the hell do you keep talking ? Not one of your posts has explain your ideal solution, not once have you stated what the amar scout should have, only that you don't like what it has, so maybe start there! Plus your not even a scout, your a tourist med frame with scr that has no clue what a scout needs anyway lol. LOOK: sure you don't want stamina or whatever but if you have your suit maxed your gonna start with 312 ehp , add two shields that's 290+312 = 602 And you STILL HAVE6 SLOTS! So b!tch all you want but that suits gonna be a beast with a ton of HP that can run forever, as a scout there's nothing wrong with that Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 381	Posted - 2014.03.15 20:00:00 - [8] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: TheD1CK wrote: My Minmatar Scout is usually below 300 HP after buffing it As someone pointed out the Amarr will start with 312 HP provided skills are maxed out in shield/armour Yet the Amarr still complain because they want the OPness The Minmatar Scout is the fastest Scout while being the weakest The Amarr Scout will be the toughest while being the slowest To those you are QQing for no good reason other than If you HP tank your Amarr Scout, it will be a medium frame Which is more than fair as you need to play to the suits strengths Which is simply Distance traveled, as a Scout that is important If you are not willing to adapt to a role of Amarr Scout Here's some advice, don't spec into it Those lows leave options for some awesome fittings Which the Minja has lacked for some time... Now both suits have 6 module slots making both quite useful Edit: Amarr Assault has owned the Matari Assault quite easily Due to the Matari shield tank, Amarr ScR.... Look at the QQ now our scouts will kick your ass Bro why the hell do you'll keep talking about base stats like I'm calling to nerf stamina regain on all suit but the Amarr? The Amarr scout gets a bonus to stamina regain and max if it cant be the best at its "defined role" (what ever the hell that is) its role either needs to be buffed or changed completely. Huh does that make sense does it? Why the hell do you keep talking ? Not one of your posts has explain your ideal solution, not once have you stated what the amar scout should have, only that you don't like what it has, so maybe start there! Plus your not even a scout, your a tourist med frame with scr that has no clue what a scout needs anyway lol. LOOK: sure you don't want stamina or whatever but if you have your suit maxed your gonna start with 312 ehp , add two shields that's 290+312 = 602 And you STILL HAVE6 SLOTS! So b!tch all you want but that suits gonna be a beast with a ton of HP that can run forever, as a scout there's nothing wrong with that I actually do have ideas just re read the thread. And ive been running the Advance gallente scout for the past month and a half so your false statement is null. At lvl 5 skills the A-scout will have a 100 shields plus two complex SE equals 244 maxium shields IDK were you got your info from but 312 thats the ehp of the suit at max skills. But ill give credit were credit is due, we sure do have 6 slots Edit: Welp you were right gave no ideas in this thread, let me re type something I put in another thread Either a increase to its current bonus or another bonus completely http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65540/1/Stats.xlsx Ok amars shields is 60 I thought it was 80 but whatever. 60x.25=75 shields 170x.25=212.5 armor =287.5 base HP My proto gallente shotgun fit 87 shields/212 armor= 299 HP Comp percision Creo sg Viziam scp M1 F45 re Comp reactive plate Enh damp 2x comp range Played 6 matches last night every match was between 20/30 kills Now imagine the A scout with this fit, drop the range use a red and you have a sprint and longer endurance plus a shield and a cloak and more armor because of armor upgrade will increase its % once you put that plate on. Sorry dude but a month an a half doesn't make you a scout that's just a med frame preparing for 1.8 If you can't see how awesome this is than maybe you shouldn't scout Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 381	Posted - 2014.03.15 20:13:00 - [9] - Quote Your not bright are you Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 381	Posted - 2014.03.15 22:25:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Speed Tankers like the bonus... Slayers don't ..... Who should CCP try to please with a Scout suit, Slayers/Scouts No, speed tankers go minmatar. Amarr suit is still the slowest in every way, it can just be slower for longer. Some other guy did the calculations and even with the boost, the amarr scout can't outrun anything. Everyone knew it was going to be the slowest scout then they give it a biotic bonus and you moan, if it got a kinetic bonus it wouldn't be the slowest now would it! If you scrapped that bonus you would screw yourself cuz it would always need a low slot reserved for stamina, your gonna need reds on it to level out armor penalties, so if it had any other bonus you would lose versatility and slot options. If you wanted it fast you would need two reds, and a green, if you wanted it stealth it would lose two slots for one range and a profile damp, then you would need speed, endurance armor or reps. This is the best bonus it could have trust me, after all it is a scout! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!

DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 381	Posted - 2014.03.15 23:06:00 - [11] - Quote Neither one of you guys have been rocking a full time scout since beta like the other scouts that approve of the bonus, yet you expect some different bonus that you haven't event stated, and post no alternate suggestions, just a moaning thread with no justification from mercs that aren't even full blown scouts from game opening. You haven't delt with the 1 yr punishment of being the WEAKEST scout in the game, the minmatar scout, ccp hands you a killing machine , an you don't like it's bonus and versatility and you want to gimp it with some new bonus you haven't even bloody suggested or played the suit yet, do you shotgun bro? NO you run a viziam scr in a amar assault and you probably want some stupid lazer weapon damage bonus, the min gets a knife bonus but in order to use it it's at high risk by being that close and all low slots will be consumed by either stealth or biotic mods, so it's only gonna have 343 shields an 87 armor = 430 The amar has a better slot layout and never needs a green jar which all scouts need, there's no point in being fast if you run out of breath! The amar will be able to chase down ANY suit in the game slow or not with one complex green, two reds and a plate two shields and drag them into a dark alley and do dirty things to them. I wish the minmatar or caldari had a bonus like this, the caldari has so few options it's unreal, sure it can see everything but those two low slots hurt it severely , they get shields and percision, there lows take away from all the options all the other scouts have. You complain about this bonus all you want until you see how effective it'll be in game when a amar scout scans you down from a 100 m out with a active scanner , stalks you , kills you and runs away all without stopping, it's gonna be one of the best because it's bonus frees up a slot for more useful mods, all other scouts will still use mods that compliment their bonuses and still need a green mod. Caldaris will stil use percision mods and effectively be reduced to a 3/2 setup Gallentes will still use armor reps, range or profile damps an possibly lose shield slots for percision mods because range means nothing without them, highly reducing their ehp And the min will be using biotics or hack mods and possibly percision mods in their highs so they can se other scouts reducing their proto suits to possibly under 270 shields an under 90 armor, and we all know how fast shields drop. Yet the amar will be rocking a base HP of what most suits are left with after equipping mods, if you can't see this as a advantage then don't even bother to defend your opinion on the topic when you haven't even stated what you want the suits bonus to be. Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!