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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
2596
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Posted - 2014.03.09 21:43:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZILONI45U&list=UU3GKUr_1HWTLqNnQZRhOhkw
Take a bit of your time and watch this all the way through. Forget the sub-par graphics and the occasional frame-drop, and just look at things like how the character moves, the way the HUD responds to movement, and how the weapons look as they fire.
Also take some time to listen to the sound of your character's movement, and the sound of the weapons and other aspects of the environment.
In the case of these elements, the love we profess is NOT just nostalgia. Look at this footage and tell me that many aspects of it aren't better than what we have now.
The bugs were clearly there but I don't think guys want Skirmish 1.0 with the bugs. We just want the mode with the current mechanics.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
RND's recruitment official phrase
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CeCo Macino
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.03.09 21:50:00 -
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Just imagine that boyos, finaly a map where you can use more strategy thinking. Now we broke CCPs dreams about great fanfest, by these threads
Support - Tactician/Support
Sebiestor - Tinker
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4418
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Posted - 2014.03.09 21:50:00 -
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I didn't know it was possible to make a game WORSE over time...
That HUD Tho! Why the hell do we not have that! That's like infinitely better than now lol.
Annnnnnnnnnddddddd..... DAT TTK!!! I want that
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Outer Raven
WarRavens League of Infamy
191
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Posted - 2014.03.09 21:55:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I didn't know it was possible to make a game WORSE over time...
That HUD Tho! Why the hell do we not have that! That's like infinitely better than now lol.
Annnnnnnnnnddddddd..... DAT TTK!!! I want that TTK was that way due to bad hit detection issues that aside we may have that back in 1.8 without the glitches. In a different thread a dev posted that they will update the minimap at some point to take into account terrain. Maybe the future of Dust lays in its past.
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
2602
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Posted - 2014.03.09 23:38:00 -
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Hellstorm Inc., Executive Director
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2054
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Posted - 2014.03.09 23:57:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Announcer female voice is so much better. Rectangular minimap alligns better with HUD Wobbling HUD is more immersive Reload noises The plasma muzzleflash of the AR looks much better The battle music is just plain better The console screen filled a bar as you hacked it, instead of being a static image; much more immersive. Map had more interesting geography The models for large turrets was better We had small turret installations We had an actual multi-stage attack/defend mode.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2054
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Posted - 2014.03.09 23:59:00 -
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nring it back
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3031
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Posted - 2014.03.10 00:28:00 -
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Yup, this game has gone downhill with each update, all the way back to the first iteration. They just keep adding more deck chairs and colorful umbrellas while blasting holes in the hull. |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
212
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Posted - 2014.03.10 01:11:00 -
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.things i liked in this video...
1. much longer ttk
2. shorter shield delay
3. dumbfire swarms
Less QQ more PewPew
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3227
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Posted - 2014.03.10 01:16:00 -
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The old models were really glossy, but it was kinda sexy tbh.
They put a lot less strain on the PS3 as well. |
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Captain Crutches
Nexus Marines
59
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Posted - 2014.03.10 01:27:00 -
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I never played Skirmish 1.0, but I want it back now.
I also lol'd when Dennie showed up.
Anti-Respec | Anti-Protostomp | Anti-"Slayer Logi" | Pro-Tiericide | Pro-EVE/Dust Link | Pro-CCP
Fun > Winning > KDR
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1020
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Posted - 2014.03.10 01:39:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZILONI45U&list=UU3GKUr_1HWTLqNnQZRhOhkw
Take a bit of your time and watch this all the way through. Forget the sub-par graphics and the occasional frame-drop, and just look at things like how the character moves, the way the HUD responds to movement, and how the weapons look as they fire.
Also take some time to listen to the sound of your character's movement, and the sound of the weapons and other aspects of the environment.
In the case of these elements, the love we profess is NOT just nostalgia. Look at this footage and tell me that many aspects of it aren't better than what we have now. those Swarm launcher are so op, now with over multiple nerf patch , their are useless and weak why ccp dont give them back the dumb fire ability again (maybe a new weapon for the cal heavy ). Swarms were the FOTM when they were dumbfire. As such, that ability was promptly removed.
Fun fact: CCP handled the swarm launcher room clearing issue by removing BOTH the dumb fire AND the swarm missiles ability hurt infantry.
Why the both? No one can tell a good reason.
(EDIT: may be true that dumb fire was removed later on, I have vague memory of dumb firing tanks between Line Harvest warehouses.)
Sad and AFK from Dust for unforeseen time.
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
213
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Posted - 2014.03.10 01:50:00 -
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same reason they double nerf everything else i guess... i miss shooting vehicles with rifles too.
Less QQ more PewPew
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
88
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Posted - 2014.03.10 01:55:00 -
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i still cant believe people actually like the old announcer. i like the echo-y sounds of the new one.
i really think CCP should at least add a 'classic' mode that adds a gamemode that is exactly the same as the old skirmish demonstrated in this video.
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Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4740
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:05:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZILONI45U&list=UU3GKUr_1HWTLqNnQZRhOhkw
Take a bit of your time and watch this all the way through. Forget the sub-par graphics and the occasional frame-drop, and just look at things like how the character moves, the way the HUD responds to movement, and how the weapons look as they fire.
Also take some time to listen to the sound of your character's movement, and the sound of the weapons and other aspects of the environment.
In the case of these elements, the love we profess is NOT just nostalgia. Look at this footage and tell me that many aspects of it aren't better than what we have now. The bugs were clearly there but I don't think guys want Skirmish 1.0 with the bugs. We just want the mode with the current mechanics. Precisely.
Personally, I'd love to see the old gunsights come back as well. Far more open and less limiting of your situational awareness. As well, they fit the theme of something you'd find that far in the future a LOT better than the sights we have now, which look like something you'd buy from your local pawn shop.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Scheneighnay McBob
Hammerhead i Eagle Thrust
4297
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:07:00 -
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low genius wrote: and only the attacking team has an mcc... the way it should be.
While there definitely should be a 1-MCC game mode again, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have 2 MCCs fighting. It would be stupid to try fighting a piece of equipment like that without having at least 1 of your own docked at the district to fight it.
Just gave me an idea for another game mode: although it could be simply a stage in an actual battle, it would take place after the attacking MCC docks: the attackers have the goal of capturing the command node (command nodes are supposed to effect district sovereignty, right?) while the defenders must attempt to board and hijack the enemy MCC. Stripped to the basics, it's a game mode where each team has 1 objective and whoever fully captures theirs first wins.
Hell, it could even be a new final stage to skirmish 1.0
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4740
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:low genius wrote: and only the attacking team has an mcc... the way it should be.
While there definitely should be a 1-MCC game mode again, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have 2 MCCs fighting. It would be stupid to try fighting a piece of equipment like that without having at least 1 of your own docked at the district to fight it. Just gave me an idea for another game mode: although it could be simply a stage in an actual battle, it would take place after the attacking MCC docks: the attackers have the goal of capturing the command node (command nodes are supposed to effect district sovereignty, right?) while the defenders must attempt to board and hijack the enemy MCC. Stripped to the basics, it's a game mode where each team has 1 objective and whoever fully captures theirs first wins. Hell, it could even be a new final stage to skirmish 1.0 1 or 2 MCCs should be situational wherever possible. Since the idea of an MCC is to be a mobile base, if you already own the ground base, why would you need one?
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V.
805
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:21:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Announcer female voice is so much better. Rectangular minimap alligns better with HUD Wobbling HUD is more immersive Reload noises The plasma muzzleflash of the AR looks much better The battle music is just plain better The console screen filled a bar as you hacked it, instead of being a static image; much more immersive. Map had more interesting geography The models for large turrets was better We had small turret installations We had an actual multi-stage attack/defend mode.
I wish we could get all those things back, but on the current Dust.
I know many people like the old AR noises, but I did not like them; they sounded like they were trying to sound like projectiles (and not very good projectile noises either). +1 is not enough for this post !
BALACSES ??? MY PRECIOUS HAS BALACSES ???
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
455
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:32:00 -
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Wow!!! What game is that?
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4743
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:44:00 -
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I really hope part of what they deliver at FanFest is a more immersive experience, like that early build. When you move, you actually feel like you're moving.
Playing the game now, you feel like you're using a pair of thumsticks to control a camera mounted in the head of a character model holding a gun.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
641
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Posted - 2014.03.10 02:56:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZILONI45U&list=UU3GKUr_1HWTLqNnQZRhOhkw
Take a bit of your time and watch this all the way through. Forget the sub-par graphics and the occasional frame-drop, and just look at things like how the character moves, the way the HUD responds to movement, and how the weapons look as they fire.
Also take some time to listen to the sound of your character's movement, and the sound of the weapons and other aspects of the environment.
In the case of these elements, the love we profess is NOT just nostalgia. Look at this footage and tell me that many aspects of it aren't better than what we have now.
What is this game..... This is a game I would play.. I'd even pay for it.
Newb
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4746
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:03:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZILONI45U&list=UU3GKUr_1HWTLqNnQZRhOhkw
Take a bit of your time and watch this all the way through. Forget the sub-par graphics and the occasional frame-drop, and just look at things like how the character moves, the way the HUD responds to movement, and how the weapons look as they fire.
Also take some time to listen to the sound of your character's movement, and the sound of the weapons and other aspects of the environment.
In the case of these elements, the love we profess is NOT just nostalgia. Look at this footage and tell me that many aspects of it aren't better than what we have now. What is this game..... This is a game I would play.. I'd even pay for it. The visuals are trash, but the mechanics were pretty cool.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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ads alt
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:08:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZILONI45U&list=UU3GKUr_1HWTLqNnQZRhOhkw
Take a bit of your time and watch this all the way through. Forget the sub-par graphics and the occasional frame-drop, and just look at things like how the character moves, the way the HUD responds to movement, and how the weapons look as they fire.
Also take some time to listen to the sound of your character's movement, and the sound of the weapons and other aspects of the environment.
In the case of these elements, the love we profess is NOT just nostalgia. Look at this footage and tell me that many aspects of it aren't better than what we have now. What is this game..... This is a game I would play.. I'd even pay for it. The visuals are trash, but the mechanics were pretty cool. Hey mobius I am gt543da I love haing a scout when im not insta kill, so many noobs wno cant hit this
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Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
1982
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:24:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Music sounds amazingly better than our no music currently.
I was so, so sad when CCP got rid of that battle music.
Yeah, it had a bit of a cheesy scifi twang to it. But it was great, dammit.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
2597
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:27:00 -
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Long TTK in this video looks frustrating
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
RND's recruitment official phrase
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4746
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:42:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Long TTK in this video looks frustrating Hit detection was so incredibly bad back then.
I actually thought I sucked ass when Codex first came out with that new lag-compensation system they set up on their servers, because I'd been leading my targets for so long I didn't realize that I had to lead them because of lag. I thought the game had ballistic calculations.
However bad the hit detection might seem at times in Uprising, it could never compare to how awful Replication was.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
280
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:14:00 -
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Man, Skirm 1.0 was so much fun. Cliffs, crevices, plateaus, all kinds of terrain, then the map ended with an open valley that had to be crossed to enter the facility. That map had a bit of everything.
It was cool being able to destroy the first two objectives. I was in a squad with some players who all started after closed beta and we were talking about all of the weird stuff that happens around null cannons. Blew their minds when I said the reason objectives have hit detection is that you used to destroy them.
The thing I miss the most is the old radar. I'm tired of having a plain blue circle with blinking dots, there's no reference point if you aren't within 100m of an objective. You can know they're there, but have no idea if they are in front of or behind cover, because there's no way to judge a difference of 1-5m. With the old version with the map, you could get an idea of where an enemy was at in relation to the terrain.
Hopefully, they've been working on bringing this back. The reason it was removed initially was because 1.0 was hard coded into that one map, and our current version was much easier to implement properly. Yet another issue with Dust that is the result of shoddy programming and implementation (others include: chat channels sorting by ASCII value rather than actual alphabetical, mic bubble glitch, Scotty, etc.) |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
101
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:28:00 -
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There is a lot that is better now. I really miss the music and HUD though. That level looked awesome though. Face it, we will never has a perfect game here. It is constantly one step forward, one step back. It they could nail the balancing, I wouldn't have an issue with anything else. |
Beck Weathers
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
725
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:34:00 -
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I miss the AIs voice and phrases, that video reminded me how much better they where "manual overide required" "terminal rebot faild"
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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DootDoot
Da Short Buss
219
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:45:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Announcer female voice is so much better. Rectangular minimap alligns better with HUD Wobbling HUD is more immersive Reload noises The plasma muzzleflash of the AR looks much better The battle music is just plain better The console screen filled a bar as you hacked it, instead of being a static image; much more immersive. Map had more interesting geography The models for large turrets was better We had small turret installations We had an actual multi-stage attack/defend mode.
I wish we could get all those things back, but on the current Dust.
I know many people like the old AR noises, but I did not like them; they sounded like they were trying to sound like projectiles (and not very good projectile noises either).
Battlefield is well known during the sound process to go out and field test every gun... Every explosion and reccord the sounds... Why most say they have the best sound in the Genre..
If DUST's developers where to go to gun and demolition ranges and actually test weapons and explosives.. see how they actually work and their functionality... along with setting up sound recording equipment... They could get a lot of very real explosions and gun sounds that every human would register as real... They then could do what the average beat mixer with a laptop does... And tweak and chop the sound so it's more unique for DUST's atmosphere.
But until those real life recordings are made the weapon sounds in DUST will always be lacking...
Heres an example of an Audio team looking to make the game as immersive as possible... Even half of this effort would yield massive results in DUST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c0J2S2pgmAs |
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