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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6924
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:37:00 -
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You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
322
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:41:00 -
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I'm cry all day and night for heavy .. with normal bonuses. In 1.8 at last I get some.
Now where is my 10kk ISK? |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6925
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:42:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:I'm cry all day and night for heavy .. with normal bonuses. In 1.8 at last I get some.
Now where is my 10kk ISK? Oh hey Mr. Heavy with Assault rifle.
Did you upgrade to RR yet? Or did you move to HMG now that it became ludicrously powerful?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Scout Hunter II
0uter.Heaven Academy
10
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:42:00 -
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i liked the powerful heavy in chrome dayz :O
they were so expensive tho, so it was balanced :P
how bout that scout buff in 1.8 OP |
mollerz
2494
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:56:00 -
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How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1554
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:57:00 -
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I've had my Heavy for well over a year, but surprisingly, I haven't used it even once during this event. I find it odd, really.
However, I've been having loads of fun making games out of killing all the nub Heavies in matches with TAC SRs on MLT fittings, Frontline MLT Rail Tanks, and my new favorite, LogiScout Shotties.
Don't be mad. Not taking this game seriously makes everything 1000x more fun. Just be happy HMGs don't have the range of Chrome's maxed sharpshooter skill... (I actually miss that.)
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever Shotgun scouts that are cloak fixes everything.
Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
323
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Posted - 2014.03.01 09:59:00 -
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Just RR. CR is to OP and HMG have to short range for me (but yes it is powerfull - as it have to be). Ar need be almost less powerful then HMG in cqc but now its CR ore to short and mid. RR is more for my playstyle. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6925
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:00:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I've had my Heavy for well over a year, but surprisingly, I haven't used it even once during this event. I find it odd, really.
However, I've been having loads of fun making games out of killing all the nub Heavies in matches with TAC SRs on MLT fittings, Frontline MLT Rail Tanks, and my new favorite, LogiScout Shotties.
Don't be mad. Not taking this game seriously makes everything 1000x more fun. Just be happy HMGs don't have the range of Chrome's maxed sharpshooter skill... (I actually miss that.)
I miss chromo heavies actually.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6925
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:01:00 -
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mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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CamClarke
0uter.Heaven
29
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:06:00 -
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Can't say I blame you Cat Merc, I've broken two controllers this build when I've never done so before in my life. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
579
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:07:00 -
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Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
635
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:11:00 -
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Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6925
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:11:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead There was a scout event. Was I pissed?
No.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6925
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:12:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. So what? You were underpowered once, great.
All the way through 1.2 to 1.7 heavies have been buffed time and time again.
There was one buff too many.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1790
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:13:00 -
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Lol.
1.8 is all about Scouts though, so meh.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
635
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. So what? You were underpowered once, great. All the way through 1.2 to 1.7 heavies have been buffed time and time again. There was one buff too many. and what pray tell were these "buffs" you speak of. Only buffs I know of are the turn speed cap removal and the hp buff please do not include the HMG fix as a buff because it isn't. That was a fix.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1445
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:17:00 -
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EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff
Drop it like its hat.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
637
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:20:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Once again, the HMG fix was not a buff it was never intended to have laser rifle hip fire. The reticle was huge for a reason
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
320
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead There was a scout event. Was I pissed? No. Lol well it was a knife event, you got money for killing 300 ehp suits, so no I can't see you getting mad. Did you get knifed over a 100 times? Probably not, very few skilled knifers , yet anyone can hmg, not a valid rebuttal.
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
320
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:25:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
527
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:25:00 -
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I feel your pain Cat
I haven't failed 10,000 times, i've successfully found 10,000 ways that won't work.
Thomas Edison
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
637
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:34:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Kaylee Veloc
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
64
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:41:00 -
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Dust is a bigger waiting game than EVE, only we're not waiting for SP training. I'm sure all the basic content will be released along with bug fixes and some kind of balance Soon tm right? |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2110
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:47:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy.
I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is?
Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear
The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
321
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:48:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME!
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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ALT2 acc
184
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:49:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME! Gallente have 525 armor not 600 base...
Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2744
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:52:00 -
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OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now
Intelligence is OP
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
637
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:53:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME! A) complex armor plates give 148.5 HP due to efficiency bonus from skill B) almost none of my Heavy fits use plates as reppers allow me to survive more than one fight and biotics mitigate my vulnerability to open spaces
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6932
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:55:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame
The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
637
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6932
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Shotguns? Really? The HMG shreds any shotgunner while that shotgunner tries to put 3 shots in. Yeah, it takes 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun to take down a heavy.
Laser Rifle? Good luck using it inside complexes.
Remote explosives? -25% explosive damage. Heavies ALREADY survive RE's.
Plasma Cannons cannot kill a heavy anymore without some serious damage modding and PROF.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10211
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:59:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Once again, the HMG fix was not a buff it was never intended to have laser rifle hip fire. The reticle was huge for a reason
It was also a buff when they increased the RoF by 20%.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6933
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Posted - 2014.03.01 10:59:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
425
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:02:00 -
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My Captains of Crush hand grippers have saved my controller the few times I get a lil rage. Nothing like crushing 140lbs and imagening it was a red dots throat.
Haven't needed em in this event though, I done gone n keeled me a whole heap o dem heavies.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:03:00 -
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\o/ I got 5 ISK that says he isn't going anywhere |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
637
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
425
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:08:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:\o/ I got 5 ISK that says he isn't going anywhere
Make it 20 ISK and it's a deal. He'll be back at 1.8 or tomorrow.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6933
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:08:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die. By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
638
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:09:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:My Captains of Crush hand grippers have saved my controller the few times I get a lil rage. Nothing like crushing 140lbs and imagening it was a red dots throat. Haven't needed em in this event though, I done gone n keeled me a whole heap o dem heavies. There ya go cat... scouts have no problems killing heavies. If you would step out of your med suit literbox you might see this but i doubt you can see anything besides... ZOMG that non med suit is competitive NERF IT
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Chuckles Brown
190
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:12:00 -
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Cat, did you forget how the HMG once was?
The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial
Do you pub, brah?
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
638
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
You can't apply full dps past 20 meters with out crouching and opening your self to a hail of lol headsots.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6933
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:17:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote: By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
You can't apply full dps past 20 meters with out crouching and opening your self to a hail of lol headsots. You don't need full DPS to kill someone do you?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6933
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:18:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:Cat, did you forget how the HMG once was?
No, I even said it needed it a buff more than once.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6933
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:19:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:My Captains of Crush hand grippers have saved my controller the few times I get a lil rage. Nothing like crushing 140lbs and imagening it was a red dots throat. Haven't needed em in this event though, I done gone n keeled me a whole heap o dem heavies. There ya go cat... scouts have no problems killing heavies. If you would step out of your med suit literbox you might see this but i doubt you can see anything besides... ZOMG that non med suit is competitive NERF IT Well, considering 1.8 scouts are going to be better than assaults, it might as well be a medium frame.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
638
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote: By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
You can't apply full dps past 20 meters with out crouching and opening your self to a hail of lol headsots. You don't need full DPS to kill someone do you? Have you used the HMG at all since the hotfix the only thing you are doing by shooting someone past 20 meters is: A)letting them know where you are B)giving them a free kill
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6933
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:22:00 -
[47] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote: By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
You can't apply full dps past 20 meters with out crouching and opening your self to a hail of lol headsots. You don't need full DPS to kill someone do you? Have you used the HMG at all since the hotfix the only thing you are doing by shooting someone past 20 meters is: A)letting them know where you are B)giving them a free kill Uhhh... I logged in as soon as the downtime ended to try the HMG out.
I also ran the HMG today.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
638
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:23:00 -
[48] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:My Captains of Crush hand grippers have saved my controller the few times I get a lil rage. Nothing like crushing 140lbs and imagening it was a red dots throat. Haven't needed em in this event though, I done gone n keeled me a whole heap o dem heavies. There ya go cat... scouts have no problems killing heavies. If you would step out of your med suit literbox you might see this but i doubt you can see anything besides... ZOMG that non med suit is competitive NERF IT Well, considering 1.8 scouts are going to be better than assaults, it might as well be a medium frame. They haven't even released the med stats for 1.8 the only thing we kinda know is the slot layout.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
638
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:24:00 -
[49] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote: By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
You can't apply full dps past 20 meters with out crouching and opening your self to a hail of lol headsots. You don't need full DPS to kill someone do you? Have you used the HMG at all since the hotfix the only thing you are doing by shooting someone past 20 meters is: A)letting them know where you are B)giving them a free kill Uhhh... I logged in as soon as the downtime ended to try the HMG out. I also ran the HMG today. so tell me what was you farthest kill? and was it just you killing them or did you kill steal?
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3061
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:26:00 -
[50] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much.
Your priorities are backwards.
Heavies actually have weaknesses.
The hell is a tanks weakness? Sudden cardiac arrest? |
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
638
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much. Your priorities are backwards. Heavies actually have weaknesses. The hell is a tanks weakness? Sudden cardiac arrest? its weakness is dieing of bordom xD
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6934
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much. Your priorities are backwards. Heavies actually have weaknesses. The hell is a tanks weakness? Sudden cardiac arrest? I can hide from a tank.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6934
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:32:00 -
[53] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote: so tell me what was you farthest kill? and was it just you killing them or did you kill steal?
42 meters. From full to zero.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2111
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:33:00 -
[54] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Shotguns? Really? The HMG shreds any shotgunner while that shotgunner tries to put 3 shots in. Yeah, it takes 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun to take down a heavy. Laser Rifle? Good luck using it inside complexes. Remote explosives? -25% explosive damage. Heavies ALREADY survive RE's. Plasma Cannons cannot kill a heavy anymore without some serious damage modding and PROF.
The HMG shreds a shotgunner from the front, but you sneak around him with say a cloaked unit, and your laughing. I take my AmarrbMedic fit and regularly hand a heavy his larynx.
You wouldn't use it in a complex anyway although CCP are uping effeciency across the range profile.
I have yet to meet a heavy survive explosives, however I do expect to have to use 2.
Why wouldn't you damage mod a Plc?
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3062
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:33:00 -
[55] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much. Your priorities are backwards. Heavies actually have weaknesses. The hell is a tanks weakness? Sudden cardiac arrest? I can hide from a tank.
Hiding from a tank wont result in the tank suddenly exploding.
Taking a few steps back and kiting the heavy will, however, kill the hell out of him. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
639
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:35:00 -
[56] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much. Your priorities are backwards. Heavies actually have weaknesses. The hell is a tanks weakness? Sudden cardiac arrest? I can hide from a tank. Wanna hide from a HMG? Stay in YOUR OPTIMAL not mine...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
639
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:37:00 -
[57] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote: so tell me what was you farthest kill? and was it just you killing them or did you kill steal?
42 meters. From full to zero. Lemme guess either a scout or a fresh outta academy newberry...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
840
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:37:00 -
[58] - Quote
I'm sure I'll see you in 1.8 |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
639
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:39:00 -
[59] - Quote
Pvt Numnutz wrote:I'm sure I'll see you in 1.8 Can't wait to get a functional bonus :3
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6935
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:45:00 -
[60] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Not even that angered me this much. Your priorities are backwards. Heavies actually have weaknesses. The hell is a tanks weakness? Sudden cardiac arrest? I can hide from a tank. Wanna hide from a HMG? Stay in YOUR OPTIMAL not mine... Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6937
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Monkey MAC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Shotguns? Really? The HMG shreds any shotgunner while that shotgunner tries to put 3 shots in. Yeah, it takes 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun to take down a heavy. Laser Rifle? Good luck using it inside complexes. Remote explosives? -25% explosive damage. Heavies ALREADY survive RE's. Plasma Cannons cannot kill a heavy anymore without some serious damage modding and PROF. The HMG shreds a shotgunner from the front, but you sneak around him with say a cloaked unit, and your laughing. I take my AmarrbMedic fit and regularly hand a heavy his larynx. You wouldn't use it in a complex anyway although CCP are uping effeciency across the range profile. I have yet to meet a heavy survive explosives, however I do expect to have to use 2. Why wouldn't you damage mod a Plc? I'm saying that it takes a lot of damage modding. Didn't say it's a bad idea.
And sorry, but 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun?
You have ALL the time in the world to turn around and obliderate him.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
649
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:49:00 -
[62] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote: Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Even with an assault rifle i would have to crouch to apply even a quarter of my DPS to you while you get to bunny hop like a mad man and strafe and sink everyone of your bullets into my squishy stationary head...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
649
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:55:00 -
[63] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote: I'm saying that it takes a lot of damage modding. Didn't say it's a bad idea.
And sorry, but 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun?
You have ALL the time in the world to turn around and obliderate him.
I take it that you haven't actually fought someone who has skilled into shotguns
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
893
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
lol! This game is pretty broken eh?
Join our public channel -
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
200
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:17:00 -
[65] - Quote
Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here.
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Level 262 Forum Troll
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
609
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:23:00 -
[66] - Quote
DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME! Base health for a heavy is 480/480. It only rises to 600 after armor upgrades (which only effects base health). These are basic understandings of the game mechanics.
Anyways, I wish I was running into all the heavies you are, Cat Merc. I've been using the 125 Mauler sentinel suits I have (25 free from newsletter, 100 from $5 tactical pack sale) to run this event (as I would never sully my hands with Minmatar tech) and only about 15% of the kills I've gotten have been heavies.
Now is the winter of our non-content.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3064
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote: Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Well then stop using a horrible weapon.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
556
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:28:00 -
[68] - Quote
Why don't you just fit out a militia heavy suit? put 1 point into HMG operation and make a crappy suit, it's actually alot of fun, makes ya feel powerful, like driving in a big truck after years of being in a compact car.
Until now heavies have been pretty ****, I could out gun them with a basic combat rifle, I'm glad the HMG got the buff it needed to actually be better than light weapons. But seriously a bunch of heavies running around is not that big of a deal, cloaks are coming out and scouts are getting a huge buff and THIS is what you're worried about? lulz, take a break and come back in a few days when heavy week is over.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6939
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:29:00 -
[69] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote: I'm saying that it takes a lot of damage modding. Didn't say it's a bad idea.
And sorry, but 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun?
You have ALL the time in the world to turn around and obliderate him.
I take it that you haven't actually fought someone who has skilled into shotguns I have, multiple times.
Situational awareness is lovely.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6939
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:30:00 -
[70] - Quote
Komodo Jones wrote:Why don't you just fit out a militia heavy suit? put 1 point into HMG operation and make a crappy suit, it's actually alot of fun, makes ya feel powerful, like driving in a big truck after years of being in a compact car.
Until now heavies have been pretty ****, I could out gun them with a basic combat rifle, I'm glad the HMG got the buff it needed to actually be better than light weapons. But seriously a bunch of heavies running around is not that big of a deal, cloaks are coming out and scouts are getting a huge buff and THIS is what you're worried about? lulz, take a break and come back in a few days when heavy week is over. I have proto heavy and HMG prof III.
So yeah.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6939
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:34:00 -
[71] - Quote
Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here. First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me.
Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement.
Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics. I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi). I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to.
Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing. I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
556
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Why don't you just fit out a militia heavy suit? put 1 point into HMG operation and make a crappy suit, it's actually alot of fun, makes ya feel powerful, like driving in a big truck after years of being in a compact car.
Until now heavies have been pretty ****, I could out gun them with a basic combat rifle, I'm glad the HMG got the buff it needed to actually be better than light weapons. But seriously a bunch of heavies running around is not that big of a deal, cloaks are coming out and scouts are getting a huge buff and THIS is what you're worried about? lulz, take a break and come back in a few days when heavy week is over. I have proto heavy and HMG prof III. So yeah. So why are you complaining and rage quitting? Asking sincerely because it just doesn't make sense to me, I'm having fun with basic ****, why aren't you?
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TheDarthMa94
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
124
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:39:00 -
[73] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
You mad bro?
Sith Apprentice and Director of NAO
"What skills? Its the connection bro!"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6941
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:40:00 -
[74] - Quote
TheDarthMa94 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever You mad bro? Yes yes I am.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
200
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:53:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:[quote=Cat Merc]. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die. By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective. My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6943
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:10:00 -
[76] - Quote
Echoist wrote: My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
It's the endless waves that annoy me.
By the time you kill one or two with much effort, 10 already spawned. There is no stopping those waves, they can perpetually defend a point forever.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
1951
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:15:00 -
[77] - Quote
What took you so long? I quit months ago.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
227
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Jack Boost wrote:I'm cry all day and night for heavy .. with normal bonuses. In 1.8 at last I get some.
Now where is my 10kk ISK? Oh hey Mr. Heavy with Assault rifle. Did you upgrade to RR yet? Or did you move to HMG now that it became ludicrously powerful?
Ha ha according to Cat Merc every weapon except the one it uses is OP - Seriously, just consider for the moment that's its you being a bad player *nod* |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
716
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:18:00 -
[79] - Quote
Heavies are perfectly fine. You're just mad that you can't 1 shot them with an Imperial Sc.
Market PvP for the win.
Decreases price by 1 ISK*
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1048
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:21:00 -
[80] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever Ferocious Feline Friend, you're doing something wrong. I'm having a great time slaying these guys that have no idea how to run heavy. They can have all the stats they want but without knowing how to play the suit, they go down pretty easy. Guys that have been heavy since the beginning, that's a different story. FOTM users go down like butter.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:22:00 -
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Can't blame you. Tanks, ADS, Heavies, RR's, CR's, RE's, Scanners, other stuff im probably forgetting. It's like this build was designed for maximum rage.
Half Irish. Often angry.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
1192
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Calm down, Cat.
*Offers some Catnip*
Heavies will face their nemesis in 1.8 when we get mass drivers and laser rifle buffs.
All dat tank on them suits doesn't make them invincible. It's just annoying as ****. Although I really hate the heavies with rifles, I'm hoping the assault bonuses and the rifle nerfs take away from their viability... Five Heavies hitting you with RRs from a distance... Bleh. Anyways just check it out first before you take your catnap from the game.
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
204
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead There was a scout event. Was I pissed? No.
the scouts had to use knives to get the bonuses the heavies can use anything not really a fair comparison
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1048
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:33:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Even with an assault rifle i would have to crouch to apply even a quarter of my DPS to you while you get to bunny hop like a mad man and strafe and sink everyone of your bullets into my squishy stationary head... Don't sit still, prof 5, sharpshooter 5, you're doing it wrong.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
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Cmdr Wolfe
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
85
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:36:00 -
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6945
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:37:00 -
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McFurious wrote:Can't blame you. Tanks, ADS, Heavies, RR's, CR's, RE's, Scanners, other stuff im probably forgetting. It's like this build was designed for maximum rage. Have to admit, it's probably a combination of all the annoying things that made me finally rage. The heavies were just the most recent thing.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
173
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Gimme dat ISK boi!
Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6945
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:38:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Jack Boost wrote:I'm cry all day and night for heavy .. with normal bonuses. In 1.8 at last I get some.
Now where is my 10kk ISK? Oh hey Mr. Heavy with Assault rifle. Did you upgrade to RR yet? Or did you move to HMG now that it became ludicrously powerful? Ha ha according to Cat Merc every weapon except the one it uses is OP - Seriously, just consider for the moment that's its you being a bad player *nod* Uhh... I don't say a weapon is OP until I try it.
Every single weapon I complained about I invested SP into to test it out.
My HMG is at prof III, I also have a proto heavy.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
147
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:48:00 -
[89] - Quote
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6949
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:50:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:There is nothing but a bunch of cry babies thay play this game Well then, you're a crybaby too I guess?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
897
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:53:00 -
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Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6949
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:56:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit.
I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
899
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:01:00 -
[93] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match.
Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t.
I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge!
Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out!
Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s?
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:03:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match. Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t. I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge! Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out! Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s? An smg should out dps a rifle But the hmg is too strong
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6950
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:03:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match. Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t. I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge! Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out! Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s? I was fighting to win.
They had a point that we HAD to take. They had endless spawns, as each time we killed a wave the next has spawned. (Takes a lot of time to chew through 1500 eHP)
I was forced into CQC.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6950
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:04:00 -
[96] - Quote
ALT2 acc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match. Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t. I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge! Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out! Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s? An smg should out dps a rifle But the hmg is too strong No it shouldn't. SMG is a sidearm, there's a reason for that.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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ALT2 acc
187
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match. Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t. I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge! Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out! Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s? I was fighting to win. They had a point that we HAD to take. They had endless spawns, as each time we killed a wave the next has spawned. (Takes a lot of time to chew through 1500 eHP) I was forced into CQC. Atm the hmg is basicly insta win in the right hands
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ALT2 acc
187
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match. Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t. I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge! Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out! Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s? An smg should out dps a rifle But the hmg is too strong No it shouldn't. SMG is a sidearm, there's a reason for that. Smg, best dps for cqc Quit going by its a sidearm...
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6950
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:08:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote: Smg, best dps for cqc Quit going by its a sidearm...
But it is. If it out DPS'd the rifles, while having that huge mag and quick reload, it would need to be a light weapon.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
193
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:10:00 -
[100] - Quote
Dust is just another carbon copy of COD right now, except with shiny new toys and mercs on steroids who never die( psychologically speaking). With no purpose in this game (other than shooting in endless pubs, which COD is besides the zombie game mode) there's no reason to keep playing other than to get passive SP and hangout with the few players on this game that don't troll you lol. And no reason to play only brings us closer to whether Dust turns the corner or literally collects dust from it's floundered potential.
Loyal Amarr and Caldari supporter
Tanks....shut up.
Raise TTK!! Or we'll go on strike....doing strike....things.....
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
899
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:10:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Yo man I saw this cat dude the other day, he was quite happy when he was trashing all us noobies in our milita heavy suits with basic HMG, with his expensive boundless proto fits.
We all get p*ssed off when we lose. I also understand this game is in need of a lot of fixes and tweaks. But hell the gameplay can be really good sometimes. That's what keeps me coming back.
I can agree in a sense though, that broken promises will **** us all off eventually and there will be a time when we wont keep coming back. 1.8 is make or brake time I think. That's because I was sick of your militia heavy suits with basic HMG's beating the CRAP out of my proto assault suit. I switched to a heavy suit to calm my anger. And no, I wasn't happy doing this, this wasn't enough to calm me down. I quit after that match. Dude come on! I suck with a HMG! If a proto suit gets that close to a crap player like me with a basic hmg and he dies..... he must be s**t. I am only using the HMG and heavy suit for the event. I cant stand how one dimensional HMG`s are. I much prefer my militia forge! Can't wait to get my Caldari Heavy and then put some sp into forges and max that sucker out! Or wait, are you saying that rifles should out CQC HMG`s? I was fighting to win. They had a point that we HAD to take. They had endless spawns, as each time we killed a wave the next has spawned. (Takes a lot of time to chew through 1500 eHP) I was forced into CQC. Atm the hmg is basicly insta win in the right hands
You know as soon as that heavy suit is out in the open its just a nice big juicy target. The fact that it is powerful in close range is because that is its intended role.
TBH I didnt even think the HMG needed buffing but you know the forums were rife with "My HMG is UP we need buffs!"
So we got buffs and now - here we are.
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Cat Merc
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6952
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:12:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote: You know as soon as that heavy suit is out in the open its just a nice big juicy target. The fact that it is powerful in close range is because that is its intended role.
TBH I didnt even think the HMG needed buffing but you know the forums were rife with "My HMG is UP we need buffs!"
So we got buffs and now - here we are.
It needed a buff.
And oh look at that, an LAV with three heavies inside it.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: You know as soon as that heavy suit is out in the open its just a nice big juicy target. The fact that it is powerful in close range is because that is its intended role.
TBH I didnt even think the HMG needed buffing but you know the forums were rife with "My HMG is UP we need buffs!"
So we got buffs and now - here we are.
It needed a buff. And oh look at that, an LAV with three heavies inside it.
Ok now you are confusing me. You agree the HMG needed a buff but then you are complaining that it does its job in CQC?
If your complaint is there are too many heavies - its a heavy event! I mean dude you are confusing me now lol? Like I said, dont take the game seriosuly, run around in the cheapest fits you can possibly make and have fun! Who cares if we die.
My only goal right now is making iskies! Yeaa beautiful isk!
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:21:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CommanderBolt wrote: You know as soon as that heavy suit is out in the open its just a nice big juicy target. The fact that it is powerful in close range is because that is its intended role.
TBH I didnt even think the HMG needed buffing but you know the forums were rife with "My HMG is UP we need buffs!"
So we got buffs and now - here we are.
It needed a buff. And oh look at that, an LAV with three heavies inside it. Ok now you are confusing me. You agree the HMG needed a buff but then you are complaining that it does its job in CQC? If your complaint is there are too many heavies - its a heavy event! I mean dude you are confusing me now lol? Like I said, dont take the game seriosuly, run around in the cheapest fits you can possibly make and have fun! Who cares if we die. My only goal right now is making iskies! Yeaa beautiful isk! There's such a thing as an overbuff.
And it doesn't matter that there's so many heavies, it's how powerful this tactic is. I have always found so way to counter a tactic, doom taxis, heavy RR's, everything, I had an answer to.
Heavy spam? I can only think of temporary bandaids that will lose me the match.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
197
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:27:00 -
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This game is all about adapting. Us heavies had to adapt on May 14th. Other suits will have to adapt at some point too. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6953
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:31:00 -
[106] - Quote
Kam Elto wrote:This game is all about adapting. Us heavies had to adapt on May 14th. Other suits will have to adapt at some point too. Doesn't mean nothing is wrong.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
202
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Echoist wrote: My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
It's the endless waves that annoy me. By the time you kill one or two with much effort, 10 already spawned. There is no stopping those waves, they can perpetually defend a point forever. Then just wait out the event it does end in like four days right? If you really can't wait four days gor the event to end then you might need to find another hobby in the mean time.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6954
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:43:00 -
[108] - Quote
Echoist wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Echoist wrote: My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
It's the endless waves that annoy me. By the time you kill one or two with much effort, 10 already spawned. There is no stopping those waves, they can perpetually defend a point forever. Then just wait out the event it does end in like four days right? If you really can't wait four days gor the event to end then you might need to find another hobby in the mean time. Sigh... How many times do I need to say this? It doesn't matter!
The tactic has been discovered, there's no stopping it.
It exists, it's nearly impossible to break, and it's easy to do. Ding ding ding, instant win tactic detected.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
9
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:45:00 -
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Im probably one of those people you hate. I have a heavy suit with a RR.
I didnt always roll that way. but thing is, i got no choice. im constantly up against people in full proto gear. I get 3hk with whatever fancy special gun they have. I got tired of losing a 20k-50k suit in 3 hits everytime.
Atleast this way, when I get jumped, I can turn around and make the proto guy earn his kill.
My primary job is logistics. Real ones. Im driving around delivering supplies, setting anti tank traps, ect. When I get killed doing that, the heavy suit with advanced RR comes out and i go hunting.
And to be fair, when I was new to this game and stuck with a Milita assault rifle, you people had no problem stomping me with Duvoille rifles all day long. So why should i suddenly be nice and give people a chance? Am i given a chance when im locked in my red line? Am i given a chance when i step out of the jeep for 1 min to place a drop link? |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6955
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:48:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Im probably one of those people you hate. I have a heavy suit with a RR.
I didnt always roll that way. but thing is, i got no choice. im constantly up against people in full proto gear. I get 3hk with whatever fancy special gun they have. I got tired of losing a 20k-50k suit in 3 hits everytime.
Atleast this way, when I get jumped, I can turn around and make the proto guy earn his kill.
My primary job is logistics. Real ones. Im driving around delivering supplies, setting anti tank traps, ect. When I get killed doing that, the heavy suit with advanced RR comes out and i go hunting.
And to be fair, when I was new to this game and stuck with a Milita assault rifle, you people had no problem stomping me with Duvoille rifles all day long. So why should i suddenly be nice and give people a chance? Am i given a chance when im locked in my red line? Am i given a chance when i step out of the jeep for 1 min to place a drop link? So.. Basically you admit it's more powerful than other suits.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
202
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:50:00 -
[111] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Echoist wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Echoist wrote: My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
It's the endless waves that annoy me. By the time you kill one or two with much effort, 10 already spawned. There is no stopping those waves, they can perpetually defend a point forever. Then just wait out the event it does end in like four days right? If you really can't wait four days gor the event to end then you might need to find another hobby in the mean time. Sigh... How many times do I need to say this? It doesn't matter! The tactic has been discovered, there's no stopping it. It exists, it's nearly impossible to break, and it's easy to do. Ding ding ding, instant win tactic detected. Why are you having such a hard time adapting? I mean I know there are more heaviea than usual but there aren't THAT many and most are wannabe heavies who are easy to fispatch cause they don't know how to use the suit. Even I don't have this much of a problem and I mainly use the laser rifle which has the longest TTK right now.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6955
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:55:00 -
[112] - Quote
Echoist wrote: Why are you having such a hard time adapting? I mean I know there are more heaviea than usual but there aren't THAT many and most are wannabe heavies who are easy to fispatch cause they don't know how to use the suit. Even I don't have this much of a problem and I mainly use the laser rifle which has the longest TTK right now.
Good job. You're killing them. Now how about winning by capturing that point they're defending?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Michael-J-Fox Richards
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
49
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:55:00 -
[113] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
what game was it that made you throw your controller years ago when you got your ps3?
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6955
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:56:00 -
[114] - Quote
Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever what game was it that made you throw your controller years ago when you got your ps3? None? This was the first time I've thrown my controller.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
10
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Posted - 2014.03.01 14:57:00 -
[115] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote: So.. Basically you admit it's more powerful than other suits.
Not all other suits. It just allows me to soak up a bit of damage. Instead of getting 3HK all the time, I actually have a moment to turn and engage my enemy.
But there are still people with fittings that shred my medium heavy suit like its nothing. Im by no means invincible. Its just a nice revenge tactic. I get shot placing uplinks, go get a heavy suit and exact some vengeance. Sometimes, ill even go back to the supply depot, put my logistics back on, and resume my logistic duties.
Also a heavy suit equipped with codebreakers can give you the time and armor you need to capture something in a critical moment.
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Vesperz
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
50
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:14:00 -
[116] - Quote
People really break their controllers...? I don't get that at all. I never have with an FPS, I get mad sometimes sure, but it's just a game. A very frustrating game. Eh, well, good luck my friend. o7
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
202
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:14:00 -
[117] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Echoist wrote: Why are you having such a hard time adapting? I mean I know there are more heaviea than usual but there aren't THAT many and most are wannabe heavies who are easy to fispatch cause they don't know how to use the suit. Even I don't have this much of a problem and I mainly use the laser rifle which has the longest TTK right now.
Good job. You're killing them. Now how about winning by capturing that point they're defending? well personally I typically don't like to go in CQC, but when I do I have my trusty squad to back me up. So yeah I have captured AND defended the point they want.
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
110
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:14:00 -
[118] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote: I was fighting to win.
They had a point that we HAD to take. They had endless spawns, as each time we killed a wave the next has spawned. (Takes a lot of time to chew through 1500 eHP)
I was forced into CQC.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6956
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:21:00 -
[119] - Quote
Echoist wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Echoist wrote: Why are you having such a hard time adapting? I mean I know there are more heaviea than usual but there aren't THAT many and most are wannabe heavies who are easy to fispatch cause they don't know how to use the suit. Even I don't have this much of a problem and I mainly use the laser rifle which has the longest TTK right now.
Good job. You're killing them. Now how about winning by capturing that point they're defending? well personally I typically don't like to go in CQC, but when I do I have my trusty squad to back me up. So yeah I have captured AND defended the point they want. Guess you weren't hit with a fuckton of heavy spam like I did, because I had a squad too.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6956
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:22:00 -
[120] - Quote
Vesperz wrote:People really break their controllers...? I don't get that at all. I never have with an FPS, I get mad sometimes sure, but it's just a game. A very frustrating game. Eh, well, good luck my friend. o7 It's not broken. I'm not THAT mad
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2921
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:30:00 -
[121] - Quote
Wednesday, all of the posers will go back to their Medium Frames and rifles.
Are you still using that Plasma Rifle? If so, you know that IT is the problem. Not what us (real) Fatties are doing, right?
(The first God of War, God Mode, Vs Ares...I twisted a controller in half like a tootsie roll. I get it.)
I GÖú Kittens.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
226
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:42:00 -
[122] - Quote
I just want to know how you are dieing to heavies.. They have high profile so you can see them on the over view map.. They are really noisy so you can hear them 50 meters away. All ARs out DPS them kill them outside of 30 meters. Only thing that changed was there is more on the field. I can see people expecting to run directly into a heavy thinking thats the best way to kill it but it's not.
Hell, I remember when 4 or 5 people would run millita AR back a few builds ago. People had a really difficult time understand that since there is more on the field. They all do damage and the chances of them getting the finial hit are higher. People QQ left and right about how the Milita AR was so OP better the the Gex. Sigh.. the community. :(
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6959
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:45:00 -
[123] - Quote
Rynoceros wrote:Wednesday, all of the posers will go back to their Medium Frames and rifles.
Are you still using that Plasma Rifle? If so, you know that IT is the problem. Not what us (real) Fatties are doing, right?
(The first God of War, God Mode, Vs Ares...I twisted a controller in half like a tootsie roll. I get it.) But... But...
My rifle :(
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2922
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:00:00 -
[124] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Wednesday, all of the posers will go back to their Medium Frames and rifles.
Are you still using that Plasma Rifle? If so, you know that IT is the problem. Not what us (real) Fatties are doing, right?
(The first God of War, God Mode, Vs Ares...I twisted a controller in half like a tootsie roll. I get it.) But... But... My rifle :( My AR is the only rifle I will probably ever fully spec to Proficiency. I took a 4 week break up until last weekend. It helped my RR, CR FotM chaser rage. Hell, I think I'm even more aware now than I was. You get tunnel vision playing the same **** over and over and over.... See ya SoonGäó.
I GÖú Kittens.
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HiddenBrother
69
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:01:00 -
[125] - Quote
See you next week.
Also, you seem whiney.
It's a heavy event; people are going to use their heavies.
Anyway; NERF HEAVIES.
Because bandwagon.
Ruin.
Weekly PC battles; even though ninety percent of Molden Heath is locked.
36 million ISK battle coins are fun.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
531
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:08:00 -
[126] - Quote
damn it CCP, you put the cat out and he ran away
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
201
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:24:00 -
[127] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Shotguns? Really? The HMG shreds any shotgunner while that shotgunner tries to put 3 shots in. Yeah, it takes 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun to take down a heavy. Laser Rifle? Good luck using it inside complexes. Remote explosives? -25% explosive damage. Heavies ALREADY survive RE's. Plasma Cannons cannot kill a heavy anymore without some serious damage modding and PROF.
only if he is at full health
but kudos to you if you think it wise to take on a heavy with a SG wearing anything other than a scout suit
and scouts can do it all the time cus ...well they do cus they arent noobs
Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for,
welcome to New Eden
-ill b there SoonGäó
KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
324
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:34:00 -
[128] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME! A) complex armor plates give 148.5 HP due to efficiency bonus from skill B) almost none of my Heavy fits use plates as reppers allow me to survive more than one fight and biotics mitigate my vulnerability to open spaces Look, Mr nitpick, I just tossed out a random number cuz I was tired, either way, plates got a buff. You have a skill called " ARMOR UPGRADES" which increases the total armor on your suit, since plates got a buff your extra percentage of armor increases end of story.
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
2958
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:42:00 -
[129] - Quote
And I used to think you were smart.
You know what? You're right about the HMG being powerful, inside of its range. Then again, 90% of this game's maps are big, open spaces, with the exception of a few sockets. I can't tell you the amount of times I've needed to cross 10 feet to the nearest cover, and got gunned down by an RR user camping on a roof 100m away. But you think all those rifles are UP compared to the HMG, right?
It's a goddamn heavy weapon, obviously it's going to outperform light weapons inside of it's own niche. The only people that can equip those HMGs are big, slow bastards, and if you try to use the Minnie heavy as an example against that, I'll just tell you that it's STILL slower than assaults, AND it is more vulnerable.
But the only tactics that assault users have is, "run forwards!" so you get mad when you run headlong into the infantry equivalent of a tank.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1832
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:08:00 -
[130] - Quote
mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Yep, 6 tanks with heavies in them, plus a protostomping squad, plus 4 random heavies that randomed up.
Heavies are just so common because this event is supporting them Cat, relax, and wait for it to end. Maybe lick your fur and chill.
*Reads Heavy Suit Post*
The minnie heavy only moves 4.05 Meters per second if I am right in assuming that the ground speed rating equals centimeters per second. How many plates are you wearing Cat!
Plus heavies are huge, and the minnie heavy seems to not have a lot of HP or slots...
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
162
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:11:00 -
[131] - Quote
Lol You broke a controller over a heavy event and not the endless tank/RR spam?
Word of Advice. Remote Explosives/Nova Knives. Heavies are stupid, they follow you around corners thinking that health makes them invincible. It doesn't.
Now... Heavies with Rail Rifles... I can understand, but heavies with HMG's are cannon fodder outside of 50 meters.
Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4665
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:17:00 -
[132] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. Yeah, so now you're going to get more HP, AND resistances to certain damage types on top of that.
Factor in that the Heavy suits now have no limitation on rotation speed.
OH, and that the "kinetic impulse" they added to bullets is magnified by how many bullets are hitting you.
News flash: the only way to beat a Heavy/Sentinel with an HMG is to strafe, and now you CAN'T strafe because the hail of bullets from the HMG just about stops you cold and ensures that there's no escape.
When the skill of the other player is completely nullified by a garbage mechanic that almost exclusively favors one asset, and then that asset is going to be made MORE powerful, how do you expect people to react?
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
725
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:19:00 -
[133] - Quote
It's only going to get worse for me, since the Heavy will be virtually immune to my main weapon in 1.8.
The main problem is turning speed. There is no reason why Heavies should have the same turning speed as everyone else. Catching a Heavy from behind should mean death. With Rifles getting a deserved nerf, Heavies will be able to tank almost anything before reacting just as fast as scouts. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1346
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:33:00 -
[134] - Quote
Have you guys tried running a heavy suit? They suck. If I tell you how easy it is to die and how to kill them will you shut up?
Scouts with shot guns **** me off. Not the MLT. Real scouts.
Crossing any street or field is almost instant death. Use cover and wear the fat bastard down. Two on one rips heavies.
REs. Flux cuts a heavy in half. M8 locus does 750+ to armor.
Forgegun is hard to dodge as a heavy, lavs too.
Sica heavies, get a tank.
I personally just shoot them. They aren't so heavy when they are laying down.
Who wants some?
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
226
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:33:00 -
[135] - Quote
See.. topics like this is why the community sucks.. topics like this is why the forge gun is nerfed to perform like a side arm/lightweapon.. topics like this is why we can't have nice things..
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
589
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:34:00 -
[136] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die.
Really? When did my SG get a range buff?!
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2477
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:40:00 -
[137] - Quote
I find the HMG is great in it's natural environment.
People saying the HMG buff didn't help can ty to justify it logically instead of basic assertions...but the heavy is in a good place atm. Scouts are also in a good place atm aside from needing a relatively small amount of CPU and PG more for a 2nd equip slot.
I do think heavy turn speed should be slower than other suits turn speeds.
It's very frustrating that as a scout shotty if I flank a heavy with a prof V shotty, if the heavy is on my level or better he can turn and kill me even when I began shooting from the flank while he was unaware because the move speed combined with dps combined with the dps I do with a 1 complex damage modded shotty is not enough to drop him before.
Anyone else felt like this before?
Anything spammed is tough. re's are my best friend for heavies because even if I shoot them in the face with my prov 5 ACR they DPS my gal logi down before i finish them off in a 1v1...unless i'm quite a bit of distance away (unfeasible when defending or attacking an OBJ..flank or no flank heavies are scary in CQC...as it should be...I just wish there was a way to counter heavies in more ways playing the objective (say in the circle building objective on the galente research facility) because I feel like many times the only way is to pray for an OB or spam counter heavies...otherwise you're asking for a meat grinder when you find 3-4 heavies in an area with a logi who has dropped a boatload of triage hives behind an area so that the choke point prevents you from attacking the triage unless you want to die to the heavy first.
sorry ong winded...just a perspective from a PC match I played...
I just don't know what the process of counter play is for heavies defending an obj when it's even numbers.
My strat most times is whittle them and have someone finish them off...or put an re down and bait them...or grab a heavy as well...what do you guys do?
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
589
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:41:00 -
[138] - Quote
Cat I feel your pain. It amazes me how long CCP let's things be unbalanced.
Lately I find I'm constantly raging at the tank spam that everyone does. I get my whole squad after them and sure we blow 3 or more of them but meanwhile we get chewed up by the infantry and our blueberries loose the objective. Typical doms lately seem to go with us kicking their ass and then five tanks show up in a pack.
You got to love the heavies jumping out of rail tanks to kill you.
As a scout it's hard to kill a heavy these days with a SG, sure if they suck it's easy, but if they have any skill you'll loose unless you want to use REs. Still, pull out a RR or CR and you'll have no problem killing the heavy since the weapons are freaking OP.
There is no balance in this game and CCP does not make any real effort to achieve it.
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:43:00 -
[139] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Fought right along side ya in plenty of them. I found myself swearing at the tv as well. I was sick of heavies before this even heavy event.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
303
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:46:00 -
[140] - Quote
ill be fighting in 1.8 with my duvole rifle and cald assault suit. i know how to kill heavies. see you there. |
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The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:02:00 -
[141] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever LMAO u scrub. Get gud. This is a HEAVY event! My adv heavy has killed 1000's this last week.
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noobsniper the 2nd
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:09:00 -
[142] - Quote
Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Im that heavy... Mmmmmm forge gun rounds *drools*
just call me scumbag noob
MAG vet raven ftw
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1360
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:10:00 -
[143] - Quote
It'll be over in 4 more days. Relax.
The Shinobi event was better, though. Scouts are no threat if they don't know what they're doing, but a noob heavy can still kill you as long as he stacks armor and shields. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
786
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:17:00 -
[144] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy.
First, Cat didn't cry for a nerf, he rage quit, big difference.
Second, I agree with your assessment of speed being a big weakness for a heavy....when he isn't playing pop out of a LAV and shoot you then hop back in after you're dead or when he is almost dead if you own the ******.
Sure we can wait for CCP to fix LAVs somehow, but I'm just going to be like it is the era of the murder taxi again and put at least adv AV grenades on all my assault suits. I'm sick of LAV noobs particularly heavies.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Brolaire of Asstoria
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
219
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:24:00 -
[145] - Quote
I've come very very close to testing the durability of the Ds3 versus...say...a wall because of this game but have managed to avoid it so far. Not so with Dark Souls though...lost 2 to that freakin thing.
I hear voices all the time...
I just ignore them and keep on killing...
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
682
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:37:00 -
[146] - Quote
All in all 1.7 seems like a disaster. Adding in OP weapons and tanks in a system that encourages pub-stomping with six man squads should have screamed bad idea to to CCP Shanghai.
CCP your matchmaking still sucks.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
587
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:38:00 -
[147] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead There was a scout event. Was I pissed? No.
Perhaps that's because your gal assault suit matches up much better against scouts than it does heavies?
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6970
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:45:00 -
[148] - Quote
Logi Bro wrote:And I used to think you were smart.
You know what? You're right about the HMG being powerful, inside of its range. Then again, 90% of this game's maps are big, open spaces, with the exception of a few sockets. I can't tell you the amount of times I've needed to cross 10 feet to the nearest cover, and got gunned down by an RR user camping on a roof 100m away. But you think all those rifles are UP compared to the HMG, right?
It's a goddamn heavy weapon, obviously it's going to outperform light weapons inside of it's own niche. The only people that can equip those HMGs are big, slow bastards, and if you try to use the Minnie heavy as an example against that, I'll just tell you that it's STILL slower than assaults, AND it is more vulnerable.
But the only tactics that assault users have is, "run forwards!" so you get mad when you run headlong into the infantry equivalent of a tank. Uhh... That Minmatar heavy suit I was talking about? 7.35 m/s.
Mine? 6.98m/s.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6970
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:47:00 -
[149] - Quote
Johnny Guilt wrote:damn it CCP, you put the cat out and he ran away This comment amused me greatly.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Mayor Redshield
Redshield Finance
2
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:50:00 -
[150] - Quote
I think the events in general just introduce the worst things about this game. It was bad enough to run into LAV heavies every now and then. Now they are in every match. Sometime a whole car load....Good luck winning that engagement, no matter how good you are. |
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Onesimus Tarsus
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
1254
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:51:00 -
[151] - Quote
Mayor Redshield wrote:I think the events in general just introduce the worst things about this game. It was bad enough to run into LAV heavies every now and then. Now they are in every match. Sometime a whole car load....Good luck winning that engagement, no matter how good you are.
And then the community tells you to mount up and do the same.
Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1351
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:52:00 -
[152] - Quote
Mayor Redshield wrote:I think the events in general just introduce the worst things about this game. It was bad enough to run into LAV heavies every now and then. Now they are in every match. Sometime a whole car load....Good luck winning that engagement, no matter how good you are.
IAFG.
Who wants some?
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
490
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:58:00 -
[153] - Quote
I've raged a fair bit the past week thanks to the heavy spam, but it is what it is .. I know that me, using laser weapons, against an amarr brick tank heavy isn't going to end well. |
Galthur
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:01:00 -
[154] - Quote
Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. You have no idea, basic heavies will be able to tank direct Plasma Cannon shots 1.8 and higher level heavies can tank RE's easily.
What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
672
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:05:00 -
[155] - Quote
Zahle Undt wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. First, Cat didn't cry for a nerf, he rage quit, big difference. Second, I agree with your assessment of speed being a big weakness for a heavy....when he isn't playing pop out of a LAV and shoot you then hop back in after you're dead or when he is almost dead if you own the ******. Sure we can wait for CCP to fix LAVs somehow, but I'm just going to be like it is the era of the murder taxi again and put at least adv AV grenades on all my assault suits. I'm sick of LAV noobs particularly heavies. If you think im gonna waddle 500 meters to an objective with a gun that doesnt work past 20 meters you are sorely mistaken. If you are at said objective when I get there, I assure you I am not going to just ignore you and waddle to the console. I'm going to attempt to end you THEN hack the console. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Bormir1r
WarRavens League of Infamy
136
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:07:00 -
[156] - Quote
mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match?
with heavies inside of them.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6978
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:07:00 -
[157] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. First, Cat didn't cry for a nerf, he rage quit, big difference. Second, I agree with your assessment of speed being a big weakness for a heavy....when he isn't playing pop out of a LAV and shoot you then hop back in after you're dead or when he is almost dead if you own the ******. Sure we can wait for CCP to fix LAVs somehow, but I'm just going to be like it is the era of the murder taxi again and put at least adv AV grenades on all my assault suits. I'm sick of LAV noobs particularly heavies. If you think im gonna waddle 500 meters to an objective with a gun that doesnt work past 20 meters you are sorely mistaken. If you are at said objective when I get there, I assure you I am not going to just ignore you and waddle to the console. I'm going to attempt to end you THEN hack the console. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause. Ah but you see, that's exactly what's supposed to be your weakness, and you easily negate it.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Galthur
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
396
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:08:00 -
[158] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:ALT2 acc wrote: Smg, best dps for cqc Quit going by its a sidearm...
But it is. If it out DPS'd the rifles, while having that huge mag and quick reload, it would need to be a light weapon. This is Jeremy12/NK Scout, ignore him he always has bad ideas.
What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
674
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:12:00 -
[159] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. First, Cat didn't cry for a nerf, he rage quit, big difference. Second, I agree with your assessment of speed being a big weakness for a heavy....when he isn't playing pop out of a LAV and shoot you then hop back in after you're dead or when he is almost dead if you own the ******. Sure we can wait for CCP to fix LAVs somehow, but I'm just going to be like it is the era of the murder taxi again and put at least adv AV grenades on all my assault suits. I'm sick of LAV noobs particularly heavies. If you think im gonna waddle 500 meters to an objective with a gun that doesnt work past 20 meters you are sorely mistaken. If you are at said objective when I get there, I assure you I am not going to just ignore you and waddle to the console. I'm going to attempt to end you THEN hack the console. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause. Ah but you see, that's exactly what's supposed to be your weakness, and you easily negate it. I am for a enterance and exit animation for vehicles. I am for a slower turn speed for basic heavies and sentinels as i should take more effort to lug said heavy weapons around. H*ll im even for restricting basic heavies/sentinels to heavy weapons ONCE WE GET ALL HEAVY WEAPONS. EDIT: just woke up so im a bit derpy atm >.<
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:38:00 -
[160] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here. First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me. Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement. Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics. I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi). I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to. Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing. I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks.
A long break, if course its just a long break everybody, she's be back complaining on the forums about something that's not really broken in no time |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6979
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:40:00 -
[161] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here. First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me. Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement. Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics. I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi). I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to. Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing. I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks. A long break, if course its just a long break everybody, she's be back complaining on the forums about something that's not really broken in no time Just wait. Heavy QQ will be off the charts in no time.
Every single OP thing in the game I predicted, people laughed at me, and later the QQ machine started rolling. Every. Single. Thing.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:42:00 -
[162] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here. First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me. Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement. Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics. I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi). I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to. Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing. I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks. A long break, if course its just a long break everybody, she's be back complaining on the forums about something that's not really broken in no time Just wait. Heavy QQ will be off the charts in no time. Every single OP thing in the game I predicted, people laughed at me, and later the QQ machine started rolling. Every. Single. Thing.
Of course it will |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
676
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:46:00 -
[163] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here. First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me. Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement. Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics. I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi). I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to. Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing. I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks. A long break, if course its just a long break everybody, she's be back complaining on the forums about something that's not really broken in no time Just wait. Heavy QQ will be off the charts in no time. Every single OP thing in the game I predicted, people laughed at me, and later the QQ machine started rolling. Every. Single. Thing. If you think I am laughing at you, then you are sorely mistaken... Shaking my head in disgust would be the more appropriate reaction.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:48:00 -
[164] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper. To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here. First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me. Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement. Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics. I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi). I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to. Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing. I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks. A long break, if course its just a long break everybody, she's be back complaining on the forums about something that's not really broken in no time Just wait. Heavy QQ will be off the charts in no time. Every single OP thing in the game I predicted, people laughed at me, and later the QQ machine started rolling. Every. Single. Thing. If you think I am laughing at you, then you are sorely mistaken... Shaking my head in disgust would be the more appropriate reaction.
I'm laughing ALOT |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6980
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:50:00 -
[165] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote: I'm laughing ALOT
I'm screen capping this, just to make an "I TOLD YOU SO" thread.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
677
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:54:00 -
[166] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote: I'm laughing ALOT
I'm screen capping this, just to make an "I WAS WRONG" thread. Fixed...
P.S. When you do make that thread I think 50mil to every heavy that tried to show you your error would go a long way to getting us to accept your apology :3
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1114
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:58:00 -
[167] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Once again, the HMG fix was not a buff it was never intended to have laser rifle hip fire. The reticle was huge for a reason Yes, but the RoF increase sort of is a buff. Ya'know, that whole 2000RPM being bumped to 2400RPM?
Anyway, I severely disagree that HMG heavies are currently OP. HMG heavies are at that sweet spot right now where half the time they dominate and half the time they get rolled. They dominate when in their optimal, they supress up to 10m out from their optimal, and they are trash at range. That's what an HMG is supposed to do. It is a CQC weapon that can only be used on the slowest suit in the game, so it's CQC abilities need to be the absolute best they can be while maintaining some effectiveness at a modest range
However, they most certainly will be when they have damage resistances. I feel that the damage resistances are not properly balanced, especially since most of the weapons in the game are getting their damage dropped.and damage mods are taking a hit. Right now heavies can kill and be killed in a balanced manner. Giving them damage resistances plus dropping damage and damage mods makes them far too imbalanced.
Hear me now, quote me later. Heavies WILL be the next FOTM due to resistances.
MAG ~ Raven
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:58:00 -
[168] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote: I'm laughing ALOT
I'm screen capping this, just to make an "I WAS WRONG" thread. Fixed... P.S. When you do make that thread I think 50mil to every heavy that tried to show you your error would go a long way to getting us to accept your apology :3
Just as wrong as the shotgun is underpowered thread
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1594
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Posted - 2014.03.01 19:59:00 -
[169] - Quote
Cat sorry you are leaving, but this heavy event brought out every wannabe and old heavy alike. Its good to see the heavy reborn, but will 1.8 make us even more of a menace, I would say so. I am looking forward to 1.8 and i will be running a Gal or Cal heavy and cant wait. Most people did not remember the way heavies used to be in Beta and closed Beat, the heavy was neglected for a long time and I feel this is payback for all the BS heavies went through in the last 5+ patches.
A heavy before 1.8
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1115
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:01:00 -
[170] - Quote
Oh, and for the record, I will be moving to Planetside 2 on ps4 when it comes out until I see Dust hit a balance that makes it feel worth playing again.
MAG ~ Raven
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6980
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:01:00 -
[171] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote: I'm laughing ALOT
I'm screen capping this, just to make an "I WAS WRONG" thread. Fixed... P.S. When you do make that thread I think 50mil to every heavy that tried to show you your error would go a long way to getting us to accept your apology :3 Just as wrong as the shotgun is underpowered thread Yes, 480 damage, crap fire rate, on a weapon with 4m optimal.
Yup I was totally wrong.
P.S Combat Rifle does it better
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
166
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:02:00 -
[172] - Quote
calvin b wrote:Cat sorry you are leaving, but this heavy event brought out every wannabe and old heavy alike. Its good to see the heavy reborn, but will 1.8 make us even more of a menace, I would say so. I am looking forward to 1.8 and i will be running a Gal or Cal heavy and cant wait. Most people did not remember the way heavies used to be in Beta and closed Beat, the heavy was neglected for a long time and I feel this is payback for all the BS heavies went through in the last 5+ patches.
I'll have you know the only thing I wannabe is back in my scout suit, knifing heavies and proto suits alike. And I remember, I'm sure most people that do don't mind the buffs heavies have gotten who do just because of how powerful they were in beta.
Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
105
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:03:00 -
[173] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote: I'm laughing ALOT
I'm screen capping this, just to make an "I WAS WRONG" thread. Fixed... P.S. When you do make that thread I think 50mil to every heavy that tried to show you your error would go a long way to getting us to accept your apology :3 Just as wrong as the shotgun is underpowered thread Yes, 480 damage, crap fire rate, on a weapon with 4m optimal. Yup I was totally wrong. P.S Combat Rifle does it better
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
677
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:06:00 -
[174] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6980
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:07:00 -
[175] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote: LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
I guarantee you, if they pick up any rifle their KDR will double.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6980
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:07:00 -
[176] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
105
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:14:00 -
[177] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again.
Yep with lvl 2 skill in caldari assualt I have
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6982
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:15:00 -
[178] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again. Yep with lvl 2 skill in caldari assualt I have Proto Caldari.
Try yet again.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
677
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:16:00 -
[179] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again. Then I can tell you what is wrong, but you won't like it(it aint your fit...) There is a reason I tell you 5-20 meters is the optimal range for the HMG . Anything closer then 5 meters and you cant shoot sh*t as the HMG gets tighter aka worse for CQC the longer you fire. So you have to burst it at that range which WILL give a good(note that I said good here) Shotgunner ample time to strafe and kill the heavy
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
105
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:22:00 -
[180] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again. Yep with lvl 2 skill in caldari assualt I have Proto Caldari. Try yet again.
Hahahaha I would know you even if I was running caldari assualt |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6982
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:31:00 -
[181] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote: Hahahaha I would know you even if I was running caldari assualt
huh?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6982
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:31:00 -
[182] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again. Then I can tell you what is wrong, but you won't like it(it aint your fit...) There is a reason I tell you 5-20 meters is the optimal range for the HMG . Anything closer then 5 meters and you cant shoot sh*t as the HMG gets tighter aka worse for CQC the longer you fire. So you have to burst it at that range which WILL give a good(note that I said good here) Shotgunner ample time to strafe and kill the heavy Don't get me wrong, I get kills, 20/3 was my latest match with the shotty.
But that doesn't change how the rifles simply do it better.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2680
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:34:00 -
[183] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever And so it begins...
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
105
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:36:00 -
[184] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote: Hahahaha I would know you even if I was running caldari assualt
huh?
Lol and now your just playing stupid
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
678
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:37:00 -
[185] - Quote
Fox Gaden wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever And so it begins... Dont worry Fox Ive been trying to educate but cats are notoriously fickle...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
679
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:40:00 -
[186] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Fusion Commander wrote:
LOL and all the experience shotgunners seem to be doing just fine with it
he is probably running it on a brick tanked assault suit too... Nope, Caldari assault with 8.5m/s speed. Flanking 24/7. Try again. Then I can tell you what is wrong, but you won't like it(it aint your fit...) There is a reason I tell you 5-20 meters is the optimal range for the HMG . Anything closer then 5 meters and you cant shoot sh*t as the HMG gets tighter aka worse for CQC the longer you fire. So you have to burst it at that range which WILL give a good(note that I said good here) Shotgunner ample time to strafe and kill the heavy Don't get me wrong, I get kills, 20/3 was my latest match with the shotty. But that doesn't change how the rifles simply do it better. Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Atiim
5161
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:45:00 -
[187] - Quote
At least now I have a reason to use my PLCs
But yeah, this heavy event is annoying.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
[s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
679
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:46:00 -
[188] - Quote
Atiim wrote:At least now I have a reason to use my PLCs But yeah, this heavy event is annoying. Et Tu Atiim T^T
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6984
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:54:00 -
[189] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya So... What about heavies taking 3 shots from a slow firing weapon to kill, while they can instantly obliderate you the moment they smell you? That's not a problem? How about a headshot from a scrambler pistol doing more damage, firing faster and with more range? What about nova knifers who can do the same thing with more damage if they just step forward 4m?
The rest of the weapons perform poorly at CQC, so those don't really count.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6984
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:55:00 -
[190] - Quote
Fusion Commander wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Fusion Commander wrote: Hahahaha I would know you even if I was running caldari assualt
huh? Lol and now your just playing stupid I don't understand what you're saying, seriously lol
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Atiim
5162
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Posted - 2014.03.01 20:57:00 -
[191] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Atiim wrote:At least now I have a reason to use my PLCs But yeah, this heavy event is annoying. Et Tu Atiim T^T Not upset or anything, but hearing 6 HMGs roaring in a city is scary.
But I've already got my anti-heavy fits.
- RS-90 Combat Rifle
- F/45 Remotes
- KLA-98 PLC
- CreoDron Shotgun
All of them make quick work of heavies.
Gotta love that counter-play
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
[s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through
-HAND
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
185
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:02:00 -
[192] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever Cat don't lose hope i fell your pain as i am a true Gallente assault with a AR since day one. One day CCP will get around to buffing us in the mean time it makes are gun game better by playing in this role that has no good thing going for it. I am stomping all these fake Heavys during this event so squad up with me some time as we will show them that the Gallente assault in the right hands will put all these no skill FOTM heavys in there place. and if they make you to mad then pull out that rail rifle and make them do a back flip or the scrubs driveing around in lavs then i pull out a tank game over.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
681
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:02:00 -
[193] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya So... What about heavies taking 3 shots from a slow firing weapon to kill, while they can instantly obliderate you the moment they smell you? That's not a problem? How about a headshot from a scrambler pistol doing more damage, firing faster and with more range? What about nova knifers who can do the same thing with more damage if they just step forward 4m? The rest of the weapons perform poorly at CQC, so those don't really count. *sigh* I said heavies should turn a bit slower. Scrambler Pistol is a skill based weapon and finally unless its a heavy nova knifer YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE SHOT TO KILL IT. All you are showing me is that you SHOULD NOT be using a shotgun. Please stick to guns you know how to play and you will both perform and feel better...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
681
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:05:00 -
[194] - Quote
Atiim wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Atiim wrote:At least now I have a reason to use my PLCs But yeah, this heavy event is annoying. Et Tu Atiim T^T Not upset or anything, but hearing 6 HMGs roaring in a city is scary. But I've already got my anti-heavy fits.
- RS-90 Combat Rifle
- F/45 Remotes
- KLA-98 PLC
- CreoDron Shotgun
All of them make quick work of heavies. Gotta love that counter-play bleh i need to get on and harvest more tears from people like Cat. But im having so much fun in Borderlands 2 atm >.<
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6986
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:17:00 -
[195] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya So... What about heavies taking 3 shots from a slow firing weapon to kill, while they can instantly obliderate you the moment they smell you? That's not a problem? How about a headshot from a scrambler pistol doing more damage, firing faster and with more range? What about nova knifers who can do the same thing with more damage if they just step forward 4m? The rest of the weapons perform poorly at CQC, so those don't really count. *sigh* I said heavies should turn a bit slower. Scrambler Pistol is a skill based weapon and finally unless its a heavy nova knifer YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE SHOT TO KILL IT. All you are showing me is that you SHOULD NOT be using a shotgun. Please stick to guns you know how to play and you will both perform and feel better... Oh I'm not saying nova knife should take more than one hit to kill.
I'm saying that shotgun has **** poor range, that I might as well use nova knives since it's a secondary weapon.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
203
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:19:00 -
[196] - Quote
A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2680
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:28:00 -
[197] - Quote
Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Just a note on the Turn speed buff. It means a Heavy will turn as fast as an Assault suit equipped with the same weapon. With a Shotgun they will turn slower than with an Assault rifle. With an HMG, the Heavy turns even slower than with a shotgun.
In short, the Turn speed buff does not effect Heavies using Heavy weapons because heavy weapons continue to have slow tracking speeds.
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
687
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:30:00 -
[198] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya So... What about heavies taking 3 shots from a slow firing weapon to kill, while they can instantly obliderate you the moment they smell you? That's not a problem? How about a headshot from a scrambler pistol doing more damage, firing faster and with more range? What about nova knifers who can do the same thing with more damage if they just step forward 4m? The rest of the weapons perform poorly at CQC, so those don't really count. *sigh* I said heavies should turn a bit slower. Scrambler Pistol is a skill based weapon and finally unless its a heavy nova knifer YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE SHOT TO KILL IT. All you are showing me is that you SHOULD NOT be using a shotgun. Please stick to guns you know how to play and you will both perform and feel better... Oh I'm not saying nova knife should take more than one hit to kill. I'm saying that shotgun has **** poor range, that I might as well use nova knives since it's a secondary weapon. EVERYTHING HAS POOR RANGE. Do you honestly expect a metal slug shot form a forge a 7000 meters a second to just poof out of existence at 300 meters? the fact that light cant travel more than 80 meters is silly and a shotgun with a optimal of 10 isnt bad that is 30ish feet ya know. You wanna know what is silly CR and HMG fires pretty much the same ish bullet yet one has massive range and one is out ranged by most sidearms...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6991
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:53:00 -
[199] - Quote
Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
591
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:56:00 -
[200] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya So... What about heavies taking 3 shots from a slow firing weapon to kill, while they can instantly obliderate you the moment they smell you? That's not a problem? How about a headshot from a scrambler pistol doing more damage, firing faster and with more range? What about nova knifers who can do the same thing with more damage if they just step forward 4m? The rest of the weapons perform poorly at CQC, so those don't really count. *sigh* I said heavies should turn a bit slower. Scrambler Pistol is a skill based weapon and finally unless its a heavy nova knifer YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE SHOT TO KILL IT. All you are showing me is that you SHOULD NOT be using a shotgun. Please stick to guns you know how to play and you will both perform and feel better... Oh I'm not saying nova knife should take more than one hit to kill. I'm saying that shotgun has **** poor range, that I might as well use nova knives since it's a secondary weapon. EVERYTHING HAS POOR RANGE. Do you honestly expect a metal slug shot form a forge a 7000 meters a second to just poof out of existence at 300 meters? the fact that light cant travel more than 80 meters is silly and a shotgun with a optimal of 10 isnt bad that is 30ish feet ya know. You wanna know what is silly CR and HMG fires pretty much the same ish bullet yet one has massive range and one is out ranged by most sidearms...
Hate to burst your bubble but I wish the SG had an optimal of 10m.
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6993
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:56:00 -
[201] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Then the rifles are at fault for outperforming Niche weapons in there niche not niche weapons performing as desired in their niche. Now that you have achieved enlightenment go forth and make a thread to nerf racial rifles and see where that gets ya So... What about heavies taking 3 shots from a slow firing weapon to kill, while they can instantly obliderate you the moment they smell you? That's not a problem? How about a headshot from a scrambler pistol doing more damage, firing faster and with more range? What about nova knifers who can do the same thing with more damage if they just step forward 4m? The rest of the weapons perform poorly at CQC, so those don't really count. *sigh* I said heavies should turn a bit slower. Scrambler Pistol is a skill based weapon and finally unless its a heavy nova knifer YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE SHOT TO KILL IT. All you are showing me is that you SHOULD NOT be using a shotgun. Please stick to guns you know how to play and you will both perform and feel better... Oh I'm not saying nova knife should take more than one hit to kill. I'm saying that shotgun has **** poor range, that I might as well use nova knives since it's a secondary weapon. EVERYTHING HAS POOR RANGE. Do you honestly expect a metal slug shot form a forge a 7000 meters a second to just poof out of existence at 300 meters? the fact that light cant travel more than 80 meters is silly and a shotgun with a optimal of 10 isnt bad that is 30ish feet ya know. You wanna know what is silly CR and HMG fires pretty much the same ish bullet yet one has massive range and one is out ranged by most sidearms... Shotgun has 4m range... Past 5m range you might as well throw rocks at them.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Oswald Rehnquist
1264
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible.
Of course I'm sorry to hear that you burned out, you should hop in 1.8 to add some ammo to your inputs for changes though
but isn't the point of heavies point defense? and having 5 units specializing in point defense should be able to hold a point? I kind of feel that its a little unjustified to expect otherwise. If close to 1/3 of your team was dedicated to AV shouldn't it be vehicle hell (maybe a bad example but you get the point)?
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Incin3rate
New Age Empire.
51
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Posted - 2014.03.01 21:59:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I love you. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2680
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote: so tell me what was you farthest kill? and was it just you killing them or did you kill steal?
42 meters. From full to zero. I know how long it would take to kill someone with an HMG at 42m. Were they AFK?
Before the HMG GÇ£BuffGÇ¥ I managed to get a kill at 62m with my HMG, but since the GÇ£BuffGÇ¥ I have only gotten a couple of kills at over 30m. When they were fixing the dispersion, they also cut the effective range in half. I miss my Precision HMG. I wish they would introduce a Precision HMG which worked like the 1.6 HMG. It would be my pick when playing Manis Peak.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6994
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:12:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote: so tell me what was you farthest kill? and was it just you killing them or did you kill steal?
42 meters. From full to zero. I know how long it would take to kill someone with an HMG at 42m. Were they AFK? Before the HMG GÇ£BuffGÇ¥ I managed to get a kill at 62m with my HMG, but since the GÇ£BuffGÇ¥ I have only gotten a couple of kills at over 30m. When they were fixing the dispersion, they also cut the effective range in half. I miss my Precision HMG. I wish they would introduce a Precision HMG which worked like the 1.6 HMG. It would be my pick when playing Manis Peak. It took 3 seconds more or less.
Yeah, not the most efficient, but it worked.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6994
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:13:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible. Of course I'm sorry to hear that you burned out, you should hop in 1.8 to add some ammo to your inputs for changes though but isn't the point of heavies point defense? and having 5 units specializing in point defense should be able to hold a point? I kind of feel that its a little unjustified to expect otherwise. If close to 1/3 of your team was dedicated to AV shouldn't it be vehicle hell (maybe a bad example but you get the point)? The heavies have died. They already failed at point defense.
That the problem with this argument.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
689
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:17:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible. Of course I'm sorry to hear that you burned out, you should hop in 1.8 to add some ammo to your inputs for changes though but isn't the point of heavies point defense? and having 5 units specializing in point defense should be able to hold a point? I kind of feel that its a little unjustified to expect otherwise. If close to 1/3 of your team was dedicated to AV shouldn't it be vehicle hell (maybe a bad example but you get the point)? The heavies have died. They already failed at point defense. That the problem with this argument. sounds like you have a problem with spawning on the objective. STOP TRYING TO SCAPEGOAT THE HEAVY AND B*TCH ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2681
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:43:00 -
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Has anyone mentioned the Sloth effect in this thread? Now there is an HMG related issue that does need to be fixed.
The Sloth effect was added when we had poor hit detection. When you get hit by a bullet it slows you down. When you get hit by a weapon with a high rate of fire such as an HMG, Combat Rifle, or SMG it slows you down to about 50% of walking speed. So when you are being hit you canGÇÖt get to cover because you are slowed down.
The Sloth effect needs to be removed from the game, or toned down. It is one of the most frustrating mechanics in the game!
The effect has been there for a long time, but before hit detection was fixed you usually were not getting hit by enough bullets to get slowed down too much. It was more noticeable after hit detection was fixed. It became unbearably annoying when the Combat Rifle was added to the game and the HMG was fixed.
If you have not noticed it, pay attention to how fast you move when you are getting hit.
I fully support removing the Sloth effect. It is not needed anymore and is extremely frustrating.
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1364
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Posted - 2014.03.01 23:56:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible.
so you have a problem with uplinks.
Who wants some?
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Canis Ferox
Ultramarine Corp
12
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Posted - 2014.03.02 00:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
Ha Ha! This game is free to play but so far it's cost be a tun in replacing two broken controllers and now my PS3 don't werk either, LOLZ!
Ah well I need a break from it anyhow, saving SP so I can proto-cloak right off the bat - is getting dull.
As the saying goes: - If you can't beat 'em, nail their ******* hands to the ground while you find something bigger to beat em wid!
Nerf tanks! Buff the flaylock! Phueck it: Play Halo Combat Evolved again instead at least it's balanced!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1891
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever Don't come back.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7010
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:56:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible. so you have a problem with uplinks. No, uplinks I can flux, shoot, all the stuff.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1320
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:57:00 -
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get off my obstacle. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7010
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:58:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever Don't come back. Oh I will come back, and hopefully by then your crutch gets taken away from you
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1369
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:A thought on the AR. My 7 yr old son's alt Walmart Ninja has AR oper 3, sharpshooter 3, mlt heavy suit. He can get kills at all ranges. He can kill light suits, mediums, and heavies. Earlier today he went 12/12 in Dom with all mlt gear.
What the problem is, ese? New players are catching up, fights are evening out, your 30 million SP isn't carrying your utter lack of skills, and you are only here for one sided battles.
If you can't pull out a FG or SR to clear an obj, I just don't know what to tell you. Stop relying on a worn out crutch and actually play the game. Or not, it doesn't matter to the rest of us except we'll miss seeing a veteran player carry on so. I have no problem killing heavies. I have a problem killing waves of 5 heavies that respawn by the time I kill them all, making capturing an objective impossible. so you have a problem with uplinks. No, uplinks I can flux, shoot, all the stuff.
then your problem is skirmish.
Who wants some?
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1389
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Posted - 2014.03.02 08:06:00 -
[216] - Quote
I'd settle for not allowing heavies to drive an LAV or tank and for CCP to stop making it so easy to run a heavy suit as a cheap excuse for everything.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
702
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:03:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:I'd settle for not allowing heavies to drive an LAV or tank and for CCP to stop making it so easy to run a heavy suit as a cheap excuse for everything. Id tell you to get out of your tank and actually run a heavy, but effort isn't in a tanker's nature...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Scheherazade VII
295
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:22:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die.
5 and 20 metres? The HMG has no problem killing at even 35-40 metres. Making some CQC maps and interior objectives quite difficult to face heavies in as you are NEVER outside of their optimum range which introduces the rage-inducing spam. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
702
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:30:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote: 5 and 20 metres? The HMG has no problem killing at even 35-40 metres. Making some CQC maps and interior objectives quite difficult to face heavies in as you are NEVER outside of their optimum range which introduces the rage-inducing spam.
Sure you can steal kills at 35-40 meters but if you shoot at anything other then a scout you will die as 35 meters is inside ALL RACIAL RIFLE OPTIMAL RANGES.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2014.03.02 10:35:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote: 5 and 20 metres? The HMG has no problem killing at even 35-40 metres.
Hmm...
Are we playing different games? If anyone at my skill level, or even a little lower, were to challenge me with any form of an AR at 30m+ He has the advantage and should win the encounter 8 out of 10 times.
HMG is complete trash past 20m. |
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7018
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:35:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote: 5 and 20 metres? The HMG has no problem killing at even 35-40 metres.
Hmm... Are we playing different games? If anyone at my skill level, or even a little lower, were to challenge me with any form of an AR at 30m+ He has the advantage and should win the encounter 8 out of 10 times. HMG is complete trash past 20m. Depends. Combat Rifle? RR? Yeah
AR? Anyotherweapon? Nope
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
654
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:39:00 -
[222] - Quote
WTF is this event that everyone keeps talking about?
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514
Working as intended.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2694
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Posted - 2014.03.02 13:39:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:5 and 20 metres? The HMG has no problem killing at even 35-40 metres. Making some CQC maps and interior objectives quite difficult to face heavies in as you are NEVER outside of their optimum range which introduces the rage-inducing spam. If you are talking about Assault HMGGÇÖs, they sacrifice a lot of CQC damage to be effective at 35 - 40 m.
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