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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2921
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:30:00 -
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Wednesday, all of the posers will go back to their Medium Frames and rifles.
Are you still using that Plasma Rifle? If so, you know that IT is the problem. Not what us (real) Fatties are doing, right?
(The first God of War, God Mode, Vs Ares...I twisted a controller in half like a tootsie roll. I get it.)
I GÖú Kittens.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
226
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:42:00 -
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I just want to know how you are dieing to heavies.. They have high profile so you can see them on the over view map.. They are really noisy so you can hear them 50 meters away. All ARs out DPS them kill them outside of 30 meters. Only thing that changed was there is more on the field. I can see people expecting to run directly into a heavy thinking thats the best way to kill it but it's not.
Hell, I remember when 4 or 5 people would run millita AR back a few builds ago. People had a really difficult time understand that since there is more on the field. They all do damage and the chances of them getting the finial hit are higher. People QQ left and right about how the Milita AR was so OP better the the Gex. Sigh.. the community. :(
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6959
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Posted - 2014.03.01 15:45:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Wednesday, all of the posers will go back to their Medium Frames and rifles.
Are you still using that Plasma Rifle? If so, you know that IT is the problem. Not what us (real) Fatties are doing, right?
(The first God of War, God Mode, Vs Ares...I twisted a controller in half like a tootsie roll. I get it.) But... But...
My rifle :(
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2922
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Wednesday, all of the posers will go back to their Medium Frames and rifles.
Are you still using that Plasma Rifle? If so, you know that IT is the problem. Not what us (real) Fatties are doing, right?
(The first God of War, God Mode, Vs Ares...I twisted a controller in half like a tootsie roll. I get it.) But... But... My rifle :( My AR is the only rifle I will probably ever fully spec to Proficiency. I took a 4 week break up until last weekend. It helped my RR, CR FotM chaser rage. Hell, I think I'm even more aware now than I was. You get tunnel vision playing the same **** over and over and over.... See ya SoonGäó.
I GÖú Kittens.
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HiddenBrother
69
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:01:00 -
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See you next week.
Also, you seem whiney.
It's a heavy event; people are going to use their heavies.
Anyway; NERF HEAVIES.
Because bandwagon.
Ruin.
Weekly PC battles; even though ninety percent of Molden Heath is locked.
36 million ISK battle coins are fun.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
531
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:08:00 -
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damn it CCP, you put the cat out and he ran away
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
201
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Shotguns? Really? The HMG shreds any shotgunner while that shotgunner tries to put 3 shots in. Yeah, it takes 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun to take down a heavy. Laser Rifle? Good luck using it inside complexes. Remote explosives? -25% explosive damage. Heavies ALREADY survive RE's. Plasma Cannons cannot kill a heavy anymore without some serious damage modding and PROF.
only if he is at full health
but kudos to you if you think it wise to take on a heavy with a SG wearing anything other than a scout suit
and scouts can do it all the time cus ...well they do cus they arent noobs
Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for,
welcome to New Eden
-ill b there SoonGäó
KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
324
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:34:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff Turn speed buff HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME! A) complex armor plates give 148.5 HP due to efficiency bonus from skill B) almost none of my Heavy fits use plates as reppers allow me to survive more than one fight and biotics mitigate my vulnerability to open spaces Look, Mr nitpick, I just tossed out a random number cuz I was tired, either way, plates got a buff. You have a skill called " ARMOR UPGRADES" which increases the total armor on your suit, since plates got a buff your extra percentage of armor increases end of story.
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
2958
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:42:00 -
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And I used to think you were smart.
You know what? You're right about the HMG being powerful, inside of its range. Then again, 90% of this game's maps are big, open spaces, with the exception of a few sockets. I can't tell you the amount of times I've needed to cross 10 feet to the nearest cover, and got gunned down by an RR user camping on a roof 100m away. But you think all those rifles are UP compared to the HMG, right?
It's a goddamn heavy weapon, obviously it's going to outperform light weapons inside of it's own niche. The only people that can equip those HMGs are big, slow bastards, and if you try to use the Minnie heavy as an example against that, I'll just tell you that it's STILL slower than assaults, AND it is more vulnerable.
But the only tactics that assault users have is, "run forwards!" so you get mad when you run headlong into the infantry equivalent of a tank.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1832
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:08:00 -
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mollerz wrote:How bout dem 6-7 tanks rolling around every match? Yep, 6 tanks with heavies in them, plus a protostomping squad, plus 4 random heavies that randomed up.
Heavies are just so common because this event is supporting them Cat, relax, and wait for it to end. Maybe lick your fur and chill.
*Reads Heavy Suit Post*
The minnie heavy only moves 4.05 Meters per second if I am right in assuming that the ground speed rating equals centimeters per second. How many plates are you wearing Cat!
Plus heavies are huge, and the minnie heavy seems to not have a lot of HP or slots...
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
162
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:11:00 -
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Lol You broke a controller over a heavy event and not the endless tank/RR spam?
Word of Advice. Remote Explosives/Nova Knives. Heavies are stupid, they follow you around corners thinking that health makes them invincible. It doesn't.
Now... Heavies with Rail Rifles... I can understand, but heavies with HMG's are cannon fodder outside of 50 meters.
Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
4665
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:17:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. Yeah, so now you're going to get more HP, AND resistances to certain damage types on top of that.
Factor in that the Heavy suits now have no limitation on rotation speed.
OH, and that the "kinetic impulse" they added to bullets is magnified by how many bullets are hitting you.
News flash: the only way to beat a Heavy/Sentinel with an HMG is to strafe, and now you CAN'T strafe because the hail of bullets from the HMG just about stops you cold and ensures that there's no escape.
When the skill of the other player is completely nullified by a garbage mechanic that almost exclusively favors one asset, and then that asset is going to be made MORE powerful, how do you expect people to react?
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
725
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:19:00 -
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It's only going to get worse for me, since the Heavy will be virtually immune to my main weapon in 1.8.
The main problem is turning speed. There is no reason why Heavies should have the same turning speed as everyone else. Catching a Heavy from behind should mean death. With Rifles getting a deserved nerf, Heavies will be able to tank almost anything before reacting just as fast as scouts. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1346
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:33:00 -
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Have you guys tried running a heavy suit? They suck. If I tell you how easy it is to die and how to kill them will you shut up?
Scouts with shot guns **** me off. Not the MLT. Real scouts.
Crossing any street or field is almost instant death. Use cover and wear the fat bastard down. Two on one rips heavies.
REs. Flux cuts a heavy in half. M8 locus does 750+ to armor.
Forgegun is hard to dodge as a heavy, lavs too.
Sica heavies, get a tank.
I personally just shoot them. They aren't so heavy when they are laying down.
Who wants some?
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
226
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:33:00 -
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See.. topics like this is why the community sucks.. topics like this is why the forge gun is nerfed to perform like a side arm/lightweapon.. topics like this is why we can't have nice things..
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
589
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:34:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is butthurt that its slowly turning away from Medium Frame514 and that other playstyles are useful now Yeah, now it's everything BUT a medium frame The only use for a medium frame is a logi, but one can supply an entire squad. Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die.
Really? When did my SG get a range buff?!
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
2477
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:40:00 -
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I find the HMG is great in it's natural environment.
People saying the HMG buff didn't help can ty to justify it logically instead of basic assertions...but the heavy is in a good place atm. Scouts are also in a good place atm aside from needing a relatively small amount of CPU and PG more for a 2nd equip slot.
I do think heavy turn speed should be slower than other suits turn speeds.
It's very frustrating that as a scout shotty if I flank a heavy with a prof V shotty, if the heavy is on my level or better he can turn and kill me even when I began shooting from the flank while he was unaware because the move speed combined with dps combined with the dps I do with a 1 complex damage modded shotty is not enough to drop him before.
Anyone else felt like this before?
Anything spammed is tough. re's are my best friend for heavies because even if I shoot them in the face with my prov 5 ACR they DPS my gal logi down before i finish them off in a 1v1...unless i'm quite a bit of distance away (unfeasible when defending or attacking an OBJ..flank or no flank heavies are scary in CQC...as it should be...I just wish there was a way to counter heavies in more ways playing the objective (say in the circle building objective on the galente research facility) because I feel like many times the only way is to pray for an OB or spam counter heavies...otherwise you're asking for a meat grinder when you find 3-4 heavies in an area with a logi who has dropped a boatload of triage hives behind an area so that the choke point prevents you from attacking the triage unless you want to die to the heavy first.
sorry ong winded...just a perspective from a PC match I played...
I just don't know what the process of counter play is for heavies defending an obj when it's even numbers.
My strat most times is whittle them and have someone finish them off...or put an re down and bait them...or grab a heavy as well...what do you guys do?
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
589
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:41:00 -
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Cat I feel your pain. It amazes me how long CCP let's things be unbalanced.
Lately I find I'm constantly raging at the tank spam that everyone does. I get my whole squad after them and sure we blow 3 or more of them but meanwhile we get chewed up by the infantry and our blueberries loose the objective. Typical doms lately seem to go with us kicking their ass and then five tanks show up in a pack.
You got to love the heavies jumping out of rail tanks to kill you.
As a scout it's hard to kill a heavy these days with a SG, sure if they suck it's easy, but if they have any skill you'll loose unless you want to use REs. Still, pull out a RR or CR and you'll have no problem killing the heavy since the weapons are freaking OP.
There is no balance in this game and CCP does not make any real effort to achieve it.
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Fought right along side ya in plenty of them. I found myself swearing at the tv as well. I was sick of heavies before this even heavy event.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Paladin Sas
Pro Hic Immortalis
303
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Posted - 2014.03.01 17:46:00 -
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ill be fighting in 1.8 with my duvole rifle and cald assault suit. i know how to kill heavies. see you there. |
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The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:02:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7. And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam. I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant. Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever LMAO u scrub. Get gud. This is a HEAVY event! My adv heavy has killed 1000's this last week.
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noobsniper the 2nd
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:09:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Im that heavy... Mmmmmm forge gun rounds *drools*
just call me scumbag noob
MAG vet raven ftw
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1360
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:10:00 -
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It'll be over in 4 more days. Relax.
The Shinobi event was better, though. Scouts are no threat if they don't know what they're doing, but a noob heavy can still kill you as long as he stacks armor and shields. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
786
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:17:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy.
First, Cat didn't cry for a nerf, he rage quit, big difference.
Second, I agree with your assessment of speed being a big weakness for a heavy....when he isn't playing pop out of a LAV and shoot you then hop back in after you're dead or when he is almost dead if you own the ******.
Sure we can wait for CCP to fix LAVs somehow, but I'm just going to be like it is the era of the murder taxi again and put at least adv AV grenades on all my assault suits. I'm sick of LAV noobs particularly heavies.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Brolaire of Asstoria
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
219
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:24:00 -
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I've come very very close to testing the durability of the Ds3 versus...say...a wall because of this game but have managed to avoid it so far. Not so with Dark Souls though...lost 2 to that freakin thing.
I hear voices all the time...
I just ignore them and keep on killing...
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
682
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:37:00 -
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All in all 1.7 seems like a disaster. Adding in OP weapons and tanks in a system that encourages pub-stomping with six man squads should have screamed bad idea to to CCP Shanghai.
CCP your matchmaking still sucks.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
587
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead There was a scout event. Was I pissed? No.
Perhaps that's because your gal assault suit matches up much better against scouts than it does heavies?
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6970
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:45:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:And I used to think you were smart.
You know what? You're right about the HMG being powerful, inside of its range. Then again, 90% of this game's maps are big, open spaces, with the exception of a few sockets. I can't tell you the amount of times I've needed to cross 10 feet to the nearest cover, and got gunned down by an RR user camping on a roof 100m away. But you think all those rifles are UP compared to the HMG, right?
It's a goddamn heavy weapon, obviously it's going to outperform light weapons inside of it's own niche. The only people that can equip those HMGs are big, slow bastards, and if you try to use the Minnie heavy as an example against that, I'll just tell you that it's STILL slower than assaults, AND it is more vulnerable.
But the only tactics that assault users have is, "run forwards!" so you get mad when you run headlong into the infantry equivalent of a tank. Uhh... That Minmatar heavy suit I was talking about? 7.35 m/s.
Mine? 6.98m/s.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
6970
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:47:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:damn it CCP, you put the cat out and he ran away This comment amused me greatly.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Mayor Redshield
Redshield Finance
2
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Posted - 2014.03.01 18:50:00 -
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I think the events in general just introduce the worst things about this game. It was bad enough to run into LAV heavies every now and then. Now they are in every match. Sometime a whole car load....Good luck winning that engagement, no matter how good you are. |
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