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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6937
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:47:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Really??? The HMG is finally fixed and once again the ASSaults are crying for the nerfbat. What the f*ck do you think is gonna happen when we get say a heavy laser and can actually shoot farther then 20m? Jesus you f*ckin medium suits try to ruin anything that isn't an ASSault or slayer logi... I have always ran heavy and slogged through the sh*tfest that was uprising 1.0-1.7 with a broken gun(HMG). I never put a light weapon on my non commando heavies and never will as I have a f*ckin heavy weapon slot for a reason. We are a big... slow... hulking mass of a drop suit with a hulking mass of a weapon(that works now). You can't just bunny hop up to a HMG heavy and melee it to death like you could pre hot fix. It takes... skill  ... to 1v1 a heavy now especially a op5 prof 4 HMG heavy. I meeled a heavy to death yesteday actually. Cat my dear boy I have one question, if heavies aren't the hard counter to AR-Weilding-Assaults what is? Shotguns will still thread them, (especially if they get buffed) Laser Rifles have always been strangely efficient at taking care of heavies, Remote Explosives will still be damn effective, I've only met one heavy who can survive a forge gun to the face Tanks are still here Plasma Cannons work rather well I hear The only thing they need to do for heavy balance, is add animation to getting out of vehicles so you can butcher him long before his gun is ready. Shotguns? Really? The HMG shreds any shotgunner while that shotgunner tries to put 3 shots in. Yeah, it takes 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun to take down a heavy. Laser Rifle? Good luck using it inside complexes. Remote explosives? -25% explosive damage. Heavies ALREADY survive RE's. Plasma Cannons cannot kill a heavy anymore without some serious damage modding and PROF. The HMG shreds a shotgunner from the front, but you sneak around him with say a cloaked unit, and your laughing. I take my AmarrbMedic fit and regularly hand a heavy his larynx. You wouldn't use it in a complex anyway although CCP are uping effeciency across the range profile. I have yet to meet a heavy survive explosives, however I do expect to have to use 2. Why wouldn't you damage mod a Plc?
I'm saying that it takes a lot of damage modding.
Didn't say it's a bad idea.
And sorry, but 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun?
You have ALL the time in the world to turn around and obliderate him.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
649
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:49:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Even with an assault rifle i would have to crouch to apply even a quarter of my DPS to you while you get to bunny hop like a mad man and strafe and sink everyone of your bullets into my squishy stationary head...
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
649
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Posted - 2014.03.01 11:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
I'm saying that it takes a lot of damage modding.
Didn't say it's a bad idea.
And sorry, but 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun?
You have ALL the time in the world to turn around and obliderate him.
I take it that you haven't actually fought someone who has skilled into shotguns
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
893
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:14:00 -
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lol! This game is pretty broken eh?
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
200
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:17:00 -
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Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper.
To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
609
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:23:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:EHP buff
Turn speed buff
HMG spread buff Armor buff Stamina regen nerf Strafing Cheese burgers armor plate doesn't count as ALL suits can stack plates Yes but not all suits have 600 base armor to stack 135 HP plates ontop of either , plus ARMOR UPGRADES WHICH IS 25% extra total armor so ya ARMOR BUFF COUNTS BIGTIME!
Base health for a heavy is 480/480. It only rises to 600 after armor upgrades (which only effects base health). These are basic understandings of the game mechanics.
Anyways, I wish I was running into all the heavies you are, Cat Merc. I've been using the 125 Mauler sentinel suits I have (25 free from newsletter, 100 from $5 tactical pack sale) to run this event (as I would never sully my hands with Minmatar tech) and only about 15% of the kills I've gotten have been heavies.
Now is the winter of our non-content.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3064
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Well then stop using a horrible weapon.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
556
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:28:00 -
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Why don't you just fit out a militia heavy suit? put 1 point into HMG operation and make a crappy suit, it's actually alot of fun, makes ya feel powerful, like driving in a big truck after years of being in a compact car.
Until now heavies have been pretty ****, I could out gun them with a basic combat rifle, I'm glad the HMG got the buff it needed to actually be better than light weapons. But seriously a bunch of heavies running around is not that big of a deal, cloaks are coming out and scouts are getting a huge buff and THIS is what you're worried about? lulz, take a break and come back in a few days when heavy week is over.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6939
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:29:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
I'm saying that it takes a lot of damage modding.
Didn't say it's a bad idea.
And sorry, but 3 shots from a slow firing shotgun?
You have ALL the time in the world to turn around and obliderate him.
I take it that you haven't actually fought someone who has skilled into shotguns
I have, multiple times.
Situational awareness is lovely.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6939
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:30:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Why don't you just fit out a militia heavy suit? put 1 point into HMG operation and make a crappy suit, it's actually alot of fun, makes ya feel powerful, like driving in a big truck after years of being in a compact car.
Until now heavies have been pretty ****, I could out gun them with a basic combat rifle, I'm glad the HMG got the buff it needed to actually be better than light weapons. But seriously a bunch of heavies running around is not that big of a deal, cloaks are coming out and scouts are getting a huge buff and THIS is what you're worried about? lulz, take a break and come back in a few days when heavy week is over.
I have proto heavy and HMG prof III.
So yeah.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6939
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:34:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Let's see, last week ItsAdrenalina, this week, Cat Merc aka John Ripper.
Why is it these "veteran" players get so overly dramatic when they get beat? We newer players are supposed to shut up and endure months of it.
Funny thing, the "veteran" players didn't have to go through months of losses and frustration because everyone agrees this game was fun and challenging until the "veteran" players started abusing the mechanics, locking districts, and sending DUST down the crapper.
To Cat Merc I would say "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out," but he's just another rider on the QQ Express. He isn't going anywhere, all the other fps titles would put him in even battles against opponents of similar skill.
When was the last time one of our "veteran" players wanted that? Never, it's why they are still here.
First, I'm not John Ripper, I'm also not Arkena or anyone else, I'm me.
Secondly, I'm not leaving the game for good, I'm taking a long break until I see an improvement.
Third, I am one of the few you can say is not abusing broken mechanics.
I am not participating in locking districts, I am not using overpowered guns and suits (even though I had access to every single one like the flaylock, TAC AR, Caldari Logi, Gal Logi).
I am trying to stick to my guns, Gallente Assault with Assault Rifle, this is what I decided in Uprising 1.0 and this is what I've stuck to.
Sadly, it seems like with every build this suit and weapon become less and less appealing.
I'm moving to Gallente scout most likely, for the sake of scaring people with cloaks.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
556
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Why don't you just fit out a militia heavy suit? put 1 point into HMG operation and make a crappy suit, it's actually alot of fun, makes ya feel powerful, like driving in a big truck after years of being in a compact car.
Until now heavies have been pretty ****, I could out gun them with a basic combat rifle, I'm glad the HMG got the buff it needed to actually be better than light weapons. But seriously a bunch of heavies running around is not that big of a deal, cloaks are coming out and scouts are getting a huge buff and THIS is what you're worried about? lulz, take a break and come back in a few days when heavy week is over. I have proto heavy and HMG prof III. So yeah.
So why are you complaining and rage quitting? Asking sincerely because it just doesn't make sense to me, I'm having fun with basic ****, why aren't you?
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TheDarthMa94
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
124
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7.
And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam.
I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant.
Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
You mad bro?
Sith Apprentice and Director of NAO
"What skills? Its the connection bro!"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6941
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:40:00 -
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TheDarthMa94 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7.
And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam.
I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant.
Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever You mad bro?
Yes yes I am.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Echoist
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
200
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:[quote=Cat Merc].
Amarr Assault disagrees... 900 DPS HMG disagrees. EVERY OTHER LIGHT WEAPON HAS AT LEAST TWICE THE RANGE OF A HMG! The HMG is good at ONE THING murdering things between 5 and 20 meters THAT'S IT! If you let a heavy get in his optimal you deserve death. Also you tout the "900" DSP like it is possible to get all bullets on target... NEWS FLASH! I'ts not unless you are dry humping them in which case you again, deserve to die. By the time the HMG stops shreding me to pieces, my AR can't kill a heavy with a full clip. Range isn't nearly as bad as people think it is, if you just tried shooting targets at range you would see it's still pretty damn effective.
My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
Noobasaures: "Rawr"
Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail
STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6943
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:10:00 -
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Echoist wrote:
My supposedly useless Laser Rifle has a different opinion. Oh and if you're getting killed by a HMG at range then wow you really need to learn how to notice when you're getting shot. So let me ask you a question if you don't want a heavy to do it's intended job as the master of CQC... What DO you want them to do? Be a scout? Maybe logi with no equipment?
It's the endless waves that annoy me.
By the time you kill one or two with much effort, 10 already spawned.
There is no stopping those waves, they can perpetually defend a point forever.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
1951
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:15:00 -
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What took you so long? I quit months ago.
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
227
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Jack Boost wrote:I'm cry all day and night for heavy .. with normal bonuses. In 1.8 at last I get some.
Now where is my 10kk ISK? Oh hey Mr. Heavy with Assault rifle. Did you upgrade to RR yet? Or did you move to HMG now that it became ludicrously powerful?
Ha ha according to Cat Merc every weapon except the one it uses is OP - Seriously, just consider for the moment that's its you being a bad player *nod* |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
716
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:18:00 -
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Heavies are perfectly fine. You're just mad that you can't 1 shot them with an Imperial Sc.
Market PvP for the win.
Decreases price by 1 ISK*
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1048
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:21:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7.
And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam.
I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant.
Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Ferocious Feline Friend, you're doing something wrong. I'm having a great time slaying these guys that have no idea how to run heavy. They can have all the stats they want but without knowing how to play the suit, they go down pretty easy. Guys that have been heavy since the beginning, that's a different story. FOTM users go down like butter.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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McFurious
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
647
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:22:00 -
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Can't blame you. Tanks, ADS, Heavies, RR's, CR's, RE's, Scanners, other stuff im probably forgetting. It's like this build was designed for maximum rage.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
1192
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7.
And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam.
I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant.
Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Calm down, Cat.
*Offers some Catnip*
Heavies will face their nemesis in 1.8 when we get mass drivers and laser rifle buffs.
All dat tank on them suits doesn't make them invincible. It's just annoying as ****. Although I really hate the heavies with rifles, I'm hoping the assault bonuses and the rifle nerfs take away from their viability... Five Heavies hitting you with RRs from a distance... Bleh. Anyways just check it out first before you take your catnap from the game.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Tyjus Vacca
Valor Coalition
204
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Cat, It's a damn heavy event. What did you expect?...Lead There was a scout event. Was I pissed? No.
the scouts had to use knives to get the bonuses the heavies can use anything not really a fair comparison
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1048
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:33:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Your optimal is like 5-10 meters from mine.
I'm not an RR/CR *****.
Even with an assault rifle i would have to crouch to apply even a quarter of my DPS to you while you get to bunny hop like a mad man and strafe and sink everyone of your bullets into my squishy stationary head...
Don't sit still, prof 5, sharpshooter 5, you're doing it wrong.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Cmdr Wolfe
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
85
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:36:00 -
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get over it rome wasnt built in a day... its a work in progress |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6945
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:37:00 -
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McFurious wrote:Can't blame you. Tanks, ADS, Heavies, RR's, CR's, RE's, Scanners, other stuff im probably forgetting. It's like this build was designed for maximum rage.
Have to admit, it's probably a combination of all the annoying things that made me finally rage.
The heavies were just the most recent thing.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
173
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You managed to make me throw my controller for the first time since I got my PS3 4 years ago.
This heavy event has shown me how ludicrous heavies have become after all the buffs from 1.2 - 1.7.
And now you're making yet another buff in 1.8.
Every single match that I hated this week had heavy spam.
I fricking wish they would return to Gal Logis with RR's.
Fricking Minmatar Heavy is going to be faster than my assault, have more eHP, and with that boundless HMG shred me to pieces in an instant.
Yeah, totally absolutely fine.
I'm done, I'm going to play my backlog of games.
You guys can laugh all you want, I'm sick of heavy spam, and I put 10mil ISK down that in 1.8 everyone is going to cry about heavies.
See ya in 1.9/2.0/whatever
Gimme dat ISK boi!
Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6945
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:38:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Jack Boost wrote:I'm cry all day and night for heavy .. with normal bonuses. In 1.8 at last I get some.
Now where is my 10kk ISK? Oh hey Mr. Heavy with Assault rifle. Did you upgrade to RR yet? Or did you move to HMG now that it became ludicrously powerful? Ha ha according to Cat Merc every weapon except the one it uses is OP - Seriously, just consider for the moment that's its you being a bad player *nod*
Uhh...
I don't say a weapon is OP until I try it.
Every single weapon I complained about I invested SP into to test it out.
My HMG is at prof III, I also have a proto heavy.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
147
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:48:00 -
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There is nothing but a bunch of cry babies thay play this game |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
6949
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:50:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:There is nothing but a bunch of cry babies thay play this game
Well then, you're a crybaby too I guess?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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