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ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:21:00 - [1] - Quote I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? YouTube 30D Recruiting
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2927	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:23:00 - [2] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? The only difference I notice is initial spawn time Unless you are in a lot of PC I think it's a waste of money ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Forever ETC 703rd 28	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:24:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe Loading Games and PSN and then Scrolling through and Cancelling to the XMB. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 460	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:51:00 - [4] - Quote better framerate 8D "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Asirius Medaius 859	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:53:00 - [5] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:54:00 - [6] - Quote its not worth it. trust me!!! Swarm SP Refund Please!!!!!!! "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:57:00 - [7] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. it will only help load times not game play. Swarm SP Refund Please!!!!!!! "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1748	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:03:00 - [8] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. You sir are a dumbass 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:08:00 - [9] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 966	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:08:00 - [10] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Not true

Master Smurf Nos Nothi 128	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:09:00 - [11] - Quote I just bought a 32 GB online - should have it in a couple of days. Dust is all I use my PS3 for now so under $50 seems fine. I would like to see spawn time any hitches eg. others spawning in around you or orbital strikes vehicle rendering with respect to how infantry see them enemy rendering when you you look through your weapon scope respect. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Kane Fyea 2622	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:09:00 - [12] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Actually your brain is capable of noticing the 60 fps. If you want proof go here http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html or play any ps3 game then play that same game on pc/ps4. @OP I already know SSDs dont help much at all on ps3 because my brother has one. Nice waste of money unless you want to spend that much money on getting some better load times (Game performance unaffected)
Sirpidey Adtur Aloren Foundations 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:12:00 - [13] - Quote If you could take a comparison video of power on to warbarge time, that would be lovely.
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:13:00 - [14] - Quote Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. YouTube 30D Recruiting
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:15:00 - [15] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Maybe Loading Games and PSN and then Scrolling through and Cancelling to the XMB. What is XMB? YouTube 30D Recruiting
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:17:00 - [16] - Quote Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:21:00 - [17] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM
Marc Rime 283	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:22:00 - [18] - Quote It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;).
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 707	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:23:00 - [19] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. DONT BRING THIS BULLSH*IT UP AGAIN! Corporate sponsor of those in need. Master of Coin.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:26:00 - [20] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Wrong.. I thought this for a long time too. Watch this to be enlightened about Frame per Second on Video games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg If you want the actual scientific Data and paper done on how FPS and video games work there is a study on this. http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~claypool/papers/fr/fulltext.pdf If you want the data.

Kane Fyea 2622	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:29:00 - [21] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:32:00 - [22] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3. For those with disposable income 30 bux is gas? for the truck.. Driving around looking for a specialty hardware place in the area that carries hybrids.. Because Future shop and Bestbuy doesn't... Its just a waste of energy for a couple bux... and superior technology anyway that could be reused on the ps4 if truly worried about.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 199	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:35:00 - [23] - Quote I have two PS3 side by side, you load into battle 2 ~ 5 second faster on first spawn in.. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Asirius Medaius 860	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:36:00 - [24] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Actually your brain is capable of noticing 60 fps If you want proof go here http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html or play any ps3 game then play that same game on pc/ps4. @OP I already know SSDs dont help much at all on ps3 because my brother has one. Nice waste of money unless you want to spend that much money on getting some better load times (Game performance unaffected) Bethhy wrote: Wrong.. I thought this for a long time too. Watch this to be enlightened about Frame per Second on Video games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg If you want the actual scientific Data and paper done on how FPS and video games work there is a study on this. http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~claypool/papers/fr/fulltext.pdf If you want the data. Ah, Sunday is always the perfect day for fishing; good bait, and good bites. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 426	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:36:00 - [25] - Quote Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM Good question. My video will not have this. I did do a little reading before deciding to upgrade. The answer as to whether it's worth is seems to be "depends on the game" the skyrim(sp?) issue I read was both due to the way it saved and that it used disk cache so supplement memory, which dust does not do. The benifits from what I've read are seen in load times all around, update speeds, an in Dust, load times between games and spawn time in the opening of a battle. No one has done a video on this, so that is the point of the effort. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:39:00 - [26] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM Good question. My video will not have this. I did do a little reading before deciding to upgrade. The answer as to whether it's worth is seems to be "depends on the game" the skyrim(sp?) issue I read was both due to the way it saved and that it used disk cache so supplement memory, which dust does not do. The benifits from what I've read are seen in load times all around, update speeds, an in Dust, load times between games and spawn time in the opening of a battle. No one has done a video on this, so that is the point of the effort. Or a general frame rate test for DUST either... i was hoping to get someone with more ability to attempt
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 428	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:41:00 - [27] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: I just bought a 32 GB online - should have it in a couple of days. Dust is all I use my PS3 for now so under $50 seems fine. I would like to see spawn time any hitches eg. others spawning in around you or orbital strikes vehicle rendering with respect to how infantry see them enemy rendering when you you look through your weapon scope respect. Check. Thanks you. YouTube 30D Recruiting
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 428	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:41:00 - [28] - Quote Sirpidey Adtur wrote: If you could take a comparison video of power on to warbarge time, that would be lovely. Check, will do. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3509	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:43:00 - [29] - Quote I have an SSD. It generally makes load times shorter, but after the match has started I don't really notice any large performance gains. Getting to the warbarge, spawning on the ground, getting back to quarters.. all of those happen quicker. As to the framerate, I don't think the PS3 HDD speed is typically the limiting factor. People come up with all sorts of figures for human "FPS", but it's somewhat misleading to frame things in those terms to begin with. People are not computers and aren't bound by discrete consistent numerical metrics with respect to visual perception (like refresh rate or frames). Though on the "lower" end, ask someone if they couldn't notice the difference between the faster filming speed of the Hobbit vs. Lord of the Rings. There's also differences between concepts like "how many 'frames' can we process" and "what difference is noticeable". There's also a couple values that can be easily conflated here. What kind of monitor do you have? Odds are the monitor itself has a refresh rate which can interact to some extent with the ability of the card output at X FPS, and the display itself can have latency between input being displayed and output being rendered. Human FPS itself is vague. Are we talking about the eye? Are we talking about the brain? Your eyes are imperfect to being with. You think you actually see a complete field of view when you look at something? No. Both of your eyes have blind spots located on the optic nerve. Your brain interprets information from the other eye and surrounding information to fill in the gaps for you. Your brain is basically performing post-processing on the fly for you. Your brain actually does this with everything to begin with. You see everything upside down, your brain flips it for you. At any rate, the point is that digitally defined issues like latency or refresh rate don't have direct analogs or connection to human visual processing which doesn't perceive in terms of "frames". Humans can "perceive" very minute differences in frame rate, whether or not it's something that detracts from presentation is a matter of subject and individual differences. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Daddrobit PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 524	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:48:00 - [30] - Quote I can attest that does help with framerate in addition to loading. Every once in a blue moon I'll have dip or a bad game, but those I chalk up to lag more so than anything else. I've had plenty more where the enemy has tried to lag us out with equipment, and while the rest of my squad complains that their framerate is dropping to a slideshow, I still can run at a reasonable performance seeing only a negligible drop fr myself if any at all.

ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 428	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:54:00 - [31] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3. For those with disposable income 30 bux is gas? for the truck.. Driving around looking for a specialty hardware place in the area that carries hybrids.. Because Future shop and Bestbuy doesn't... Its just a waste of energy for a couple bux... and superior technology anyway that could be reused on the ps4 if truly worried about. Thank you. and 30 for gas in a truck? I can't remember the last time I paid less than 45 to fill my tank and I drive a Sedan. Where do you live??? YouTube 30D Recruiting
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 129	Posted - 2014.02.23 20:12:00 - [32] - Quote I just installed a samsung 64g SLC SSD lastnight and what ive noticed is faster load times all around for dust from pulling up your fittings to the star map I was the first to spawn in EVERY game with pubs I had anywhere from 17 seconds and up to waltz around the war barge if you have media on your ps3 all of it loads 75% faster one thing I do recommend doing is TEST your ps3 back up before the swap to do this just restore after your backup and see if it loads without error mine didnt work so I have to re install the original HDD later today and get a new jump drive and try to backup again Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.02.23 20:21:00 - [33] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3. For those with disposable income 30 bux is gas? for the truck.. Driving around looking for a specialty hardware place in the area that carries hybrids.. Because Future shop and Bestbuy doesn't... Its just a waste of energy for a couple bux... and superior technology anyway that could be reused on the ps4 if truly worried about. Thank you. and 30 for gas in a truck? I can't remember the last time I paid less than 45 to fill my tank and I drive a Sedan. Where do you live??? More the 30 bux driving around... not to fill the diesel truck box tank... That's a PS4 worth each time We have one of the cheaper rates in the world for gas... Got NOTHING on Brazil though of course
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 430	Posted - 2014.02.23 20:55:00 - [34] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: I just installed a samsung 64g SLC SSD lastnight and what ive noticed is faster load times all around for dust from pulling up your fittings to the star map I was the first to spawn in EVERY game with pubs I had anywhere from 17 seconds and up to waltz around the war barge if you have media on your ps3 all of it loads 75% faster one thing I do recommend doing is TEST your ps3 back up before the swap to do this just restore after your backup and see if it loads without error mine didnt work so I have to re install the original HDD later today and get a new jump drive and try to backup again THANKS! will absolutely test my backup. Hope it doesn't fail. It took over an hour to backup 24g. YouTube 30D Recruiting
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 130	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:06:00 - [35] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I just installed a samsung 64g SLC SSD lastnight and what ive noticed is faster load times all around for dust from pulling up your fittings to the star map I was the first to spawn in EVERY game with pubs I had anywhere from 17 seconds and up to waltz around the war barge if you have media on your ps3 all of it loads 75% faster one thing I do recommend doing is TEST your ps3 back up before the swap to do this just restore after your backup and see if it loads without error mine didnt work so I have to re install the original HDD later today and get a new jump drive and try to backup again THANKS! will absolutely test my backup. Hope it doesn't fail. It took over an hour to backup 24g. yeah I backed mine up on a 500g WD drive that was formatted to FAT32 and it failed I got back some data but after 3 trys when it got to the 100% it would error out and say cant be completed after doing some digging I found others had this problem with 500 and 750 gig WD passport drives Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1379	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:20:00 - [36] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway This might be true, but its not the full truth when it comes to gaming framerate, performance depends on how fast objects are moving in the game also. If you have 30 fps, and something is moving on the screen "faster than 30 frames/s", you will see strange effects and/or skip frames, which will look laggy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon-wheel_effect Drop it like its hat. CCP - Working hard on the (d)evolution of Dust 514 since 2013.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:43:00 - [37] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway This might be true, but its not the full truth when it comes to gaming framerate, performance depends on how fast objects are moving in the game also. If you have 30 fps, and something is moving on the screen "faster than 30 frames/s", you will see strange effects and/or skip frames, which will look laggy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon-wheel_effect Just Watch This. answers the question.
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 124	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:44:00 - [38] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;). I liked this but didn't test it, well in theory ssd will load up textures faster , almost instantly compared to HDD so it might be possible to notice a difference, as in smoother images due to the access speed of the SSD. My example is based upon GTA 5 on SSD and Skyrim, in both cases it made frame rate more stable, thus this maybe considered as improving the game quality All I can state from personal experience is that load times are faster in general on the PS3 with SSD, gamewise it'll access the data faster, load up the textures virtually instantly which cuts down the ingame timer time. So will it help the game in HIGH res to make it smoother? Good question needz testing NB When I tested it with SDD , Game playwise I gained no advantage whatsoever apart from loading times and then I switched to a nice old 20GB HDD, cause of all the FATAL ERRORS DUST 514 Producess compared to ANY OTHER game I have on the PS3. The reason I put a basic 5400RPM 20GB HDD is because i'd rather have a 20GB HDD broken than my 750GB drive with all my digital gamez including all the best ps3 exclusives Futhermore using a 20GB HDD allows me to use the PS3 "Restore File System" faster cause it's such a small drive with only DUST on it Even an SSD drive is very fast to do a PS3 Restore File System, install games etc due to access rate but tbh it will never be as fast as it is on a PS4 infact on the PS4 is a VERY noticable difference with installed digital games, instant access, loading times and seems better stabiity even in more demanding games like BF4 and Killzone SF DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6762	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:50:00 - [39] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. That's a complete and utter lie. 540 frames is the limit, and that's because your brain says "fu@k it, same $hit". Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Smoky Fingers Red Star. 294	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:53:00 - [40] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Not true It's true in the sense the way op worded it. I'm pretty sure he's a one eyed pirate Proud member of R*s H-Team .69 kdr , I'm Gud at repping . I have adv reps. Saving sp for adv basic light frame I'm gud

Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 5063	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:53:00 - [41] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? I would like to see the infamous claim that a player can get a dropship in the outpost before the other team even finishes loading. I would also like to see texture load-ins on the Gallente Research Facility (most obvious case) And I would like to see the effects of LAV headlights, which seem to eat framerate at times. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:58:00 - [42] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Marc Rime wrote: It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;). I liked this but didn't test it, well in theory ssd will load up textures faster , almost instantly compared to HDD so it might be possible to notice a difference, as in smoother images due to the access speed of the SSD. My example is based upon GTA 5 on SSD and Skyrim, in both cases it made frame rate more stable, thus this maybe considered as improving the game quality All I can state from personal experience is that load times are faster in general on the PS3 with SSD, gamewise it'll access the data faster, load up the textures virtually instantly which cuts down the ingame timer time. So will it help the game in HIGH res to make it smoother? Good question needz testing NB When I tested it with SDD , Game playwise I gained no advantage whatsoever apart from loading times and then I switched to a nice old 20GB HDD, cause of all the FATAL ERRORS DUST 514 Producess compared to ANY OTHER game I have on the PS3. The reason I put a basic 5400RPM 20GB HDD is because i'd rather have a 20GB HDD broken than my 750GB drive with all my digital gamez including all the best ps3 exclusives Futhermore using a 20GB HDD allows me to use the PS3 "Restore File System" faster cause it's such a small drive with only DUST on it Even an SSD drive is very fast to do a PS3 Restore File System, install games etc due to access rate but tbh it will never be as fast as it is on a PS4 infact on the PS4 is a VERY noticable difference with installed digital games, instant access, loading times and seems better stabiity even in more demanding games like BF4 and Killzone SF What is the difference between SATA I, SATA II and SATA III? SATA I (revision 1.x) interface, formally known as SATA 1.5Gb/s, is the first generation SATA interface running at 1.5 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 150MB/s. SATA II (revision 2.x) interface, formally known as SATA 3Gb/s, is a second generation SATA interface running at 3.0 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 300MB/s. SATA III (revision 3.x) interface, formally known as SATA 6Gb/s, is a third generation SATA interface running at 6.0Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s. This interface is backwards compatible with SATA 3 Gb/s interface. SATA II specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I ports. SATA III specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I and SATA II ports. However, the maximum speed of the drive will be slower due to the lower speed limitations of the port. HDD used in PS3 slim reads at 65 MB/s and BluRay at around 9 MB/s(all PS3 models use 2x speed BluRay drives). That sums up to 74 MB/s read speed, which is almost a half of SATA1. If you run solely from an SSD you will achieve these 150 MB/s, which is twice as fast as HDD + Bluray. And I say that running from an SSD will grant you 150 MB/s because of SATA1 limitations, despite the fact that modern SSDs do have both read and write speed of over 500 MB/s The Ps4 Uses a SATA 2 so with a SSD your Twice as fast in theory as the PS3. but still not hitting the SSD caps.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1758	Posted - 2014.02.23 21:59:00 - [43] - Quote I pulled the 160gb out of my old PC and slapped it into my PS3 last night. Every match we were in, I was in the Warbarge long enough to casually look over the team rosters. So it was worth it in my eyes. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 125	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:24:00 - [44] - Quote Bethhy wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Marc Rime wrote: It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;). I liked this but didn't test it, well in theory ssd will load up textures faster , almost instantly compared to HDD so it might be possible to notice a difference, as in smoother images due to the access speed of the SSD. My example is based upon GTA 5 on SSD and Skyrim, in both cases it made frame rate more stable, thus this maybe considered as improving the game quality All I can state from personal experience is that load times are faster in general on the PS3 with SSD, gamewise it'll access the data faster, load up the textures virtually instantly which cuts down the ingame timer time. So will it help the game in HIGH res to make it smoother? Good question needz testing NB When I tested it with SDD , Game playwise I gained no advantage whatsoever apart from loading times and then I switched to a nice old 20GB HDD, cause of all the FATAL ERRORS DUST 514 Producess compared to ANY OTHER game I have on the PS3. The reason I put a basic 5400RPM 20GB HDD is because i'd rather have a 20GB HDD broken than my 750GB drive with all my digital gamez including all the best ps3 exclusives Futhermore using a 20GB HDD allows me to use the PS3 "Restore File System" faster cause it's such a small drive with only DUST on it Even an SSD drive is very fast to do a PS3 Restore File System, install games etc due to access rate but tbh it will never be as fast as it is on a PS4 infact on the PS4 is a VERY noticable difference with installed digital games, instant access, loading times and seems better stabiity even in more demanding games like BF4 and Killzone SF What is the difference between SATA I, SATA II and SATA III? SATA I (revision 1.x) interface, formally known as SATA 1.5Gb/s, is the first generation SATA interface running at 1.5 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 150MB/s. SATA II (revision 2.x) interface, formally known as SATA 3Gb/s, is a second generation SATA interface running at 3.0 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 300MB/s. SATA III (revision 3.x) interface, formally known as SATA 6Gb/s, is a third generation SATA interface running at 6.0Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s. This interface is backwards compatible with SATA 3 Gb/s interface. SATA II specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I ports. SATA III specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I and SATA II ports. However, the maximum speed of the drive will be slower due to the lower speed limitations of the port. HDD used in PS3 slim reads at 65 MB/s and BluRay at around 9 MB/s(all PS3 models use 2x speed BluRay drives). That sums up to 74 MB/s read speed, which is almost a half of SATA1. If you run solely from an SSD you will achieve these 150 MB/s, which is twice as fast as HDD + Bluray. And I say that running from an SSD will grant you 150 MB/s because of SATA1 limitations, despite the fact that modern SSDs do have both read and write speed of over 500 MB/s The Ps4 Uses a SATA 2 so with a SSD your Twice as fast in theory as the PS3. but still not hitting the SSD caps. Yep this is why I put it on the PS4 even if SATA 2 and it's very noticable with INSTALLED DIGITAL Games For the PS3 i'd say get a 7200 RPM HDD or Hybrid cause they are both very close speed wise due to the SATA 1 Yep itz a shame the PS4 isn't SATA3 buti'm more than happy with the results i got with a SSD on the PS4 compared to the PS3 DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 130	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:46:00 - [45] - Quote Bethhy wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Marc Rime wrote: It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;). I liked this but didn't test it, well in theory ssd will load up textures faster , almost instantly compared to HDD so it might be possible to notice a difference, as in smoother images due to the access speed of the SSD. My example is based upon GTA 5 on SSD and Skyrim, in both cases it made frame rate more stable, thus this maybe considered as improving the game quality All I can state from personal experience is that load times are faster in general on the PS3 with SSD, gamewise it'll access the data faster, load up the textures virtually instantly which cuts down the ingame timer time. So will it help the game in HIGH res to make it smoother? Good question needz testing NB When I tested it with SDD , Game playwise I gained no advantage whatsoever apart from loading times and then I switched to a nice old 20GB HDD, cause of all the FATAL ERRORS DUST 514 Producess compared to ANY OTHER game I have on the PS3. The reason I put a basic 5400RPM 20GB HDD is because i'd rather have a 20GB HDD broken than my 750GB drive with all my digital gamez including all the best ps3 exclusives Futhermore using a 20GB HDD allows me to use the PS3 "Restore File System" faster cause it's such a small drive with only DUST on it Even an SSD drive is very fast to do a PS3 Restore File System, install games etc due to access rate but tbh it will never be as fast as it is on a PS4 infact on the PS4 is a VERY noticable difference with installed digital games, instant access, loading times and seems better stabiity even in more demanding games like BF4 and Killzone SF What is the difference between SATA I, SATA II and SATA III? SATA I (revision 1.x) interface, formally known as SATA 1.5Gb/s, is the first generation SATA interface running at 1.5 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 150MB/s. SATA II (revision 2.x) interface, formally known as SATA 3Gb/s, is a second generation SATA interface running at 3.0 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 300MB/s. SATA III (revision 3.x) interface, formally known as SATA 6Gb/s, is a third generation SATA interface running at 6.0Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s. This interface is backwards compatible with SATA 3 Gb/s interface. SATA II specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I ports. SATA III specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I and SATA II ports. However, the maximum speed of the drive will be slower due to the lower speed limitations of the port. HDD used in PS3 slim reads at 65 MB/s and BluRay at around 9 MB/s(all PS3 models use 2x speed BluRay drives). That sums up to 74 MB/s read speed, which is almost a half of SATA1. If you run solely from an SSD you will achieve these 150 MB/s, which is twice as fast as HDD + Bluray. And I say that running from an SSD will grant you 150 MB/s because of SATA1 limitations, despite the fact that modern SSDs do have both read and write speed of over 500 MB/s The Ps4 Uses a SATA 2 so with a SSD your Twice as fast in theory as the PS3. but still not hitting the SSD caps. now they need to know the difference between TLC, MLC, and SLC Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 615	Posted - 2014.02.23 22:54:00 - [46] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. I know that is the claim,but obviously you don't play many PC games or games running at 60 fps,because there is a definite noticeable difference between 30 and 60 fps.Just as an experiment,go get the game Rage for PS3,play it,then get something like Batman Arkham Origins and play it.If you can't tell the difference in framerate then you should have your eyes checked. Aside from that,Dust isn't even running at 30 frame in the first place,and more than likely never was.And if you are in that Gallente Research Facility,I would be surprised if it's even holding steady at 20 frames.
Foo Fighting Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 63	Posted - 2014.02.23 23:13:00 - [47] - Quote If (just for arguments sake) you had more than one toon you will save time getting everyones 6,000 daily SP too.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 615	Posted - 2014.02.24 00:32:00 - [48] - Quote Foo Fighting wrote: If (just for arguments sake) you had more than one toon you will save time getting everyones 6,000 daily SP too. And that's really worth spending over $100 for,right? Honestly,the OP would have been better server using that money to go towards a PS4
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 5401	Posted - 2014.02.24 00:36:00 - [49] - Quote Test it when you're playing against Nyain San ;D Fatal Absolution's official bench warmer (scoot over Faquira) and mascot I go negative in PC, yay
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 511	Posted - 2014.02.24 00:45:00 - [50] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Test it when you're playing against Nyain San ;D This guy, this guy. 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.

ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 437	Posted - 2014.02.24 00:49:00 - [51] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: If (just for arguments sake) you had more than one toon you will save time getting everyones 6,000 daily SP too. And that's really worth spending over $100 for,right? Honestly,the OP would have been better server using that money to go towards a PS4 Honestly, the OP can spend his money on whatever he wants, cause it's his money. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 615	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:06:00 - [52] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Foo Fighting wrote: If (just for arguments sake) you had more than one toon you will save time getting everyones 6,000 daily SP too. And that's really worth spending over $100 for,right? Honestly,the OP would have been better server using that money to go towards a PS4 Honestly, the OP can spend his money on whatever he wants, cause it's his money. I didn't say that he couldn't,rather using that money on a better console would be a better investment.
CuuCH Crusher Forge Gun Mafia 281	Posted - 2014.02.24 01:15:00 - [53] - Quote Side by side loading screens with a timer would be nice. (To see how much faster the ssd is.)
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 130	Posted - 2014.02.24 02:24:00 - [54] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I just installed a samsung 64g SLC SSD lastnight and what ive noticed is faster load times all around for dust from pulling up your fittings to the star map I was the first to spawn in EVERY game with pubs I had anywhere from 17 seconds and up to waltz around the war barge if you have media on your ps3 all of it loads 75% faster one thing I do recommend doing is TEST your ps3 back up before the swap to do this just restore after your backup and see if it loads without error mine didnt work so I have to re install the original HDD later today and get a new jump drive and try to backup again THANKS! will absolutely test my backup. Hope it doesn't fail. It took over an hour to backup 24g. ok so I found my problem, it had something to do with the settings I had to restore default settings and create a new back up and everything worked fine this time around I hope you dont run into any 800 errors but if you do just note you can always swap the old hdd back in and it will read just fine to create a new backup granted you havent plugged it into any other ps3/computer Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 438	Posted - 2014.02.24 03:28:00 - [55] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I just installed a samsung 64g SLC SSD lastnight and what ive noticed is faster load times all around for dust from pulling up your fittings to the star map I was the first to spawn in EVERY game with pubs I had anywhere from 17 seconds and up to waltz around the war barge if you have media on your ps3 all of it loads 75% faster one thing I do recommend doing is TEST your ps3 back up before the swap to do this just restore after your backup and see if it loads without error mine didnt work so I have to re install the original HDD later today and get a new jump drive and try to backup again THANKS! will absolutely test my backup. Hope it doesn't fail. It took over an hour to backup 24g. ok so I found my problem, it had something to do with the settings I had to restore default settings and create a new back up and everything worked fine this time around I hope you dont run into any 800 errors but if you do just note you can always swap the old hdd back in and it will read just fine to create a new backup granted you havent plugged it into any other ps3/computer My backup process didn't work the first time. Had to google the error. But the restore worked fine for me. YouTube 30D Recruiting
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 2125	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:20:00 - [56] - Quote Try and get some footage of an equipment spammed surface research facility before and after. So about those vehicle locks...
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 449	Posted - 2014.02.24 05:31:00 - [57] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. ... The sad thing is you blindly(pun intended) believe something like this.
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 516	Posted - 2014.02.24 06:00:00 - [58] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. ... The sad thing is you blindly(pun intended) believe something like this. Pc games with better framerate look smoother than 30fps games so yea its false 2 exile assault rifles, Skinweave cal. frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame Caldari Master Race One day shields, soon.
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 440	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:36:00 - [59] - Quote The video. http://youtu.be/j0tvoX1MbBE YouTube 30D Recruiting
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 310	Posted - 2014.02.24 13:57:00 - [60] - Quote 30fps nonsense on an fps forum is an obvious troll. Time in the war barge, first on the ground, and instant texture loading is worth the price of the SSD. It may be a slight competitive advantage now, but only until everyone gets around to replacing those ancient 5400rpm disks. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG



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