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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:08:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of?
Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:21:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Bethhy wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of?
Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this.
Hmm wonder how they do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:26:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:darkiller240 wrote:better framerate 8D
The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. 
Wrong.. I thought this for a long time too.
Watch this to be enlightened about Frame per Second on Video games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg
If you want the actual scientific Data and paper done on how FPS and video games work there is a study on this.
http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~claypool/papers/fr/fulltext.pdf If you want the data.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:32:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Here, let me rephrase.
I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results.
93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3.
For those with disposable income 30 bux is gas? for the truck.. Driving around looking for a specialty hardware place in the area that carries hybrids..
Because Future shop and Bestbuy doesn't...
Its just a waste of energy for a couple bux... and superior technology anyway that could be reused on the ps4 if truly worried about. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:39:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Bethhy wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Bethhy wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of?
Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM Good question. My video will not have this. I did do a little reading before deciding to upgrade. The answer as to whether it's worth is seems to be "depends on the game" the skyrim(sp?) issue I read was both due to the way it saved and that it used disk cache so supplement memory, which dust does not do. The benifits from what I've read are seen in load times all around, update speeds, an in Dust, load times between games and spawn time in the opening of a battle. No one has done a video on this, so that is the point of the effort.
Or a general frame rate test for DUST either... i was hoping to get someone with more ability to attempt  |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.23 20:21:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Bethhy wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:Here, let me rephrase.
I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results.
93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3. For those with disposable income 30 bux is gas? for the truck.. Driving around looking for a specialty hardware place in the area that carries hybrids.. Because Future shop and Bestbuy doesn't... Its just a waste of energy for a couple bux... and superior technology anyway that could be reused on the ps4 if truly worried about. Thank you. and 30 for gas in a truck? I can't remember the last time I paid less than 45 to fill my tank and I drive a Sedan. Where do you live???
More the 30 bux driving around... not to fill the diesel truck box tank... That's a PS4 worth each time
We have one of the cheaper rates in the world for gas... Got NOTHING on Brazil though of course 
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1315
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:43:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:
The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway
This might be true, but its not the full truth when it comes to gaming framerate, performance depends on how fast objects are moving in the game also. If you have 30 fps, and something is moving on the screen "faster than 30 frames/s", you will see strange effects and/or skip frames, which will look laggy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon-wheel_effect
Just Watch This. answers the question. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1315
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:58:00 -
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NomaDz 2K wrote:Marc Rime wrote:It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;). I liked this but didn't test it, well in theory ssd will load up textures faster , almost instantly compared to HDD so it might be possible to notice a difference, as in smoother images due to the access speed of the SSD. My example is based upon GTA 5 on SSD and Skyrim, in both cases it made frame rate more stable, thus this maybe considered as improving the game quality  All I can state from personal experience is that load times are faster in general on the PS3 with SSD, gamewise it'll access the data faster, load up the textures virtually instantly which cuts down the ingame timer time. So will it help the game in HIGH res to make it smoother? Good question needz testing NB When I tested it with SDD , Game playwise I gained no advantage whatsoever apart from loading times and then I switched to a nice old 20GB HDD, cause of all the FATAL ERRORS DUST 514 Producess compared to ANY OTHER game I have on the PS3. The reason I put a basic 5400RPM 20GB HDD is because i'd rather have a 20GB HDD broken than my 750GB drive with all my digital gamez including all the best ps3 exclusives Futhermore using a 20GB HDD allows me to use the PS3 "Restore File System" faster cause it's such a small drive with only DUST on it  Even an SSD drive is very fast to do a PS3 Restore File System, install games etc due to access rate but tbh it will never be as fast as it is on a PS4 infact on the PS4 is a VERY noticable difference with installed digital games, instant access, loading times and seems better stabiity even in more demanding games like BF4 and Killzone SF
What is the difference between SATA I, SATA II and SATA III?
SATA I (revision 1.x) interface, formally known as SATA 1.5Gb/s, is the first generation SATA interface running at 1.5 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 150MB/s.
SATA II (revision 2.x) interface, formally known as SATA 3Gb/s, is a second generation SATA interface running at 3.0 Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 300MB/s.
SATA III (revision 3.x) interface, formally known as SATA 6Gb/s, is a third generation SATA interface running at 6.0Gb/s. The bandwidth throughput, which is supported by the interface, is up to 600MB/s. This interface is backwards compatible with SATA 3 Gb/s interface.
SATA II specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I ports. SATA III specifications provide backward compatibility to function on SATA I and SATA II ports. However, the maximum speed of the drive will be slower due to the lower speed limitations of the port.
HDD used in PS3 slim reads at 65 MB/s and BluRay at around 9 MB/s(all PS3 models use 2x speed BluRay drives). That sums up to 74 MB/s read speed, which is almost a half of SATA1. If you run solely from an SSD you will achieve these 150 MB/s, which is twice as fast as HDD + Bluray.
And I say that running from an SSD will grant you 150 MB/s because of SATA1 limitations, despite the fact that modern SSDs do have both read and write speed of over 500 MB/s
The Ps4 Uses a SATA 2 so with a SSD your Twice as fast in theory as the PS3. but still not hitting the SSD caps.
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