DUST Search - SSD Before and After video

ratamaq doc wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

ratamaq doc wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

ratamaq doc wrote:

I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of?

Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two?

Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this.

Hmm wonder how they do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM

Good question. My video will not have this. I did do a little reading before deciding to upgrade. The answer as to whether it's worth is seems to be "depends on the game" the skyrim(sp?) issue I read was both due to the way it saved and that it used disk cache so supplement memory, which dust does not do. The benifits from what I've read are seen in load times all around, update speeds, an in Dust, load times between games and spawn time in the opening of a battle. No one has done a video on this, so that is the point of the effort.

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ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:21:00 - [1] - Quote I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? YouTube 30D Recruiting
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2927	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:23:00 - [2] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? The only difference I notice is initial spawn time Unless you are in a lot of PC I think it's a waste of money ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Forever ETC 703rd 28	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:24:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe Loading Games and PSN and then Scrolling through and Cancelling to the XMB. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 460	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:51:00 - [4] - Quote better framerate 8D "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Asirius Medaius 859	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:53:00 - [5] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:54:00 - [6] - Quote its not worth it. trust me!!! Swarm SP Refund Please!!!!!!! "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:57:00 - [7] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. it will only help load times not game play. Swarm SP Refund Please!!!!!!! "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1748	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:03:00 - [8] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. You sir are a dumbass 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:08:00 - [9] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 966	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:08:00 - [10] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Not true

Master Smurf Nos Nothi 128	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:09:00 - [11] - Quote I just bought a 32 GB online - should have it in a couple of days. Dust is all I use my PS3 for now so under $50 seems fine. I would like to see spawn time any hitches eg. others spawning in around you or orbital strikes vehicle rendering with respect to how infantry see them enemy rendering when you you look through your weapon scope respect. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Kane Fyea 2622	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:09:00 - [12] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Actually your brain is capable of noticing the 60 fps. If you want proof go here http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html or play any ps3 game then play that same game on pc/ps4. @OP I already know SSDs dont help much at all on ps3 because my brother has one. Nice waste of money unless you want to spend that much money on getting some better load times (Game performance unaffected)
Sirpidey Adtur Aloren Foundations 119	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:12:00 - [13] - Quote If you could take a comparison video of power on to warbarge time, that would be lovely.
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:13:00 - [14] - Quote Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. YouTube 30D Recruiting
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:15:00 - [15] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Maybe Loading Games and PSN and then Scrolling through and Cancelling to the XMB. What is XMB? YouTube 30D Recruiting
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 425	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:17:00 - [16] - Quote Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:21:00 - [17] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM
Marc Rime 283	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:22:00 - [18] - Quote It would be interesting to know if a SSD allows you to use higher texture settings without performance loss. Not sure if it's really possible to see that in a video, but if you do any testing I'd be interested to hear your results. A subjective perspective is better than nothing ;).
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 707	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:23:00 - [19] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. DONT BRING THIS BULLSH*IT UP AGAIN! Corporate sponsor of those in need. Master of Coin.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:26:00 - [20] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Wrong.. I thought this for a long time too. Watch this to be enlightened about Frame per Second on Video games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg If you want the actual scientific Data and paper done on how FPS and video games work there is a study on this. http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~claypool/papers/fr/fulltext.pdf If you want the data.

Kane Fyea 2622	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:29:00 - [21] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1314	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:32:00 - [22] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Here, let me rephrase. I AM upgrading my PS3 to an SSD. whether or not it's worth it is an opinion. There are more games than dust, and more to do with a playstation than play games. I didn't ask anyones opinion whether it was worth it, I ask if anyone had anything they would like to see compared in a before an after video. This is to help other form an opinion based on video evidence of the compared results. 93$ is what I paid for the SSD. My personal time is valuable. Anything that saves me time in the long run is valuable. Spending less time on load screens between games is valuable... to me. Just one thing: You should have gotten a hybrid SSD. They are cheaper then SSDs but with nearly identical performance on the ps3. For those with disposable income 30 bux is gas? for the truck.. Driving around looking for a specialty hardware place in the area that carries hybrids.. Because Future shop and Bestbuy doesn't... Its just a waste of energy for a couple bux... and superior technology anyway that could be reused on the ps4 if truly worried about.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 199	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:35:00 - [23] - Quote I have two PS3 side by side, you load into battle 2 ~ 5 second faster on first spawn in.. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Asirius Medaius 860	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:36:00 - [24] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Asirius Medaius wrote: darkiller240 wrote: better framerate 8D The human eye isn't able to perceive anything over 30 FPS anyway, so even if it did increase frame rates, your brain isn't capable of noticing anyway. Actually your brain is capable of noticing 60 fps If you want proof go here http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html or play any ps3 game then play that same game on pc/ps4. @OP I already know SSDs dont help much at all on ps3 because my brother has one. Nice waste of money unless you want to spend that much money on getting some better load times (Game performance unaffected) Bethhy wrote: Wrong.. I thought this for a long time too. Watch this to be enlightened about Frame per Second on Video games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00qUDL0Cxg If you want the actual scientific Data and paper done on how FPS and video games work there is a study on this. http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~claypool/papers/fr/fulltext.pdf If you want the data. Ah, Sunday is always the perfect day for fishing; good bait, and good bites. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 426	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:36:00 - [25] - Quote Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM Good question. My video will not have this. I did do a little reading before deciding to upgrade. The answer as to whether it's worth is seems to be "depends on the game" the skyrim(sp?) issue I read was both due to the way it saved and that it used disk cache so supplement memory, which dust does not do. The benifits from what I've read are seen in load times all around, update speeds, an in Dust, load times between games and spawn time in the opening of a battle. No one has done a video on this, so that is the point of the effort. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1315	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:39:00 - [26] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Bethhy wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: I'm about to upgrade my PS3 with Toshiba 128G SSD. I'm planning to capture before and after video of game performance. Anything in particular you guys want to see comparison of? Frame rate comparison of the video source from the two? Not sure what you mean by video source from the two. I don't think there will be a framerate difference. The game runs in memory, not off the SSD. But I will attempt and make mention of this. Hmm wonder how they do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbuKRH0aHRM Good question. My video will not have this. I did do a little reading before deciding to upgrade. The answer as to whether it's worth is seems to be "depends on the game" the skyrim(sp?) issue I read was both due to the way it saved and that it used disk cache so supplement memory, which dust does not do. The benifits from what I've read are seen in load times all around, update speeds, an in Dust, load times between games and spawn time in the opening of a battle. No one has done a video on this, so that is the point of the effort. Or a general frame rate test for DUST either... i was hoping to get someone with more ability to attempt
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 428	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:41:00 - [27] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: I just bought a 32 GB online - should have it in a couple of days. Dust is all I use my PS3 for now so under $50 seems fine. I would like to see spawn time any hitches eg. others spawning in around you or orbital strikes vehicle rendering with respect to how infantry see them enemy rendering when you you look through your weapon scope respect. Check. Thanks you. YouTube 30D Recruiting
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 428	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:41:00 - [28] - Quote Sirpidey Adtur wrote: If you could take a comparison video of power on to warbarge time, that would be lovely. Check, will do. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3509	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:43:00 - [29] - Quote I have an SSD. It generally makes load times shorter, but after the match has started I don't really notice any large performance gains. Getting to the warbarge, spawning on the ground, getting back to quarters.. all of those happen quicker. As to the framerate, I don't think the PS3 HDD speed is typically the limiting factor. People come up with all sorts of figures for human "FPS", but it's somewhat misleading to frame things in those terms to begin with. People are not computers and aren't bound by discrete consistent numerical metrics with respect to visual perception (like refresh rate or frames). Though on the "lower" end, ask someone if they couldn't notice the difference between the faster filming speed of the Hobbit vs. Lord of the Rings. There's also differences between concepts like "how many 'frames' can we process" and "what difference is noticeable". There's also a couple values that can be easily conflated here. What kind of monitor do you have? Odds are the monitor itself has a refresh rate which can interact to some extent with the ability of the card output at X FPS, and the display itself can have latency between input being displayed and output being rendered. Human FPS itself is vague. Are we talking about the eye? Are we talking about the brain? Your eyes are imperfect to being with. You think you actually see a complete field of view when you look at something? No. Both of your eyes have blind spots located on the optic nerve. Your brain interprets information from the other eye and surrounding information to fill in the gaps for you. Your brain is basically performing post-processing on the fly for you. Your brain actually does this with everything to begin with. You see everything upside down, your brain flips it for you. At any rate, the point is that digitally defined issues like latency or refresh rate don't have direct analogs or connection to human visual processing which doesn't perceive in terms of "frames". Humans can "perceive" very minute differences in frame rate, whether or not it's something that detracts from presentation is a matter of subject and individual differences. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Daddrobit PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 524	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:48:00 - [30] - Quote I can attest that does help with framerate in addition to loading. Every once in a blue moon I'll have dip or a bad game, but those I chalk up to lag more so than anything else. I've had plenty more where the enemy has tried to lag us out with equipment, and while the rest of my squad complains that their framerate is dropping to a slideshow, I still can run at a reasonable performance seeing only a negligible drop fr myself if any at all.



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