DUST Search - Why nerf damage mods?

Roy Ventus wrote:

Are they nerfing damage mods? Damn. But I guess it makes sense if certain groups aren't getting a health bonus but rather a bonus to weapons.

Everything Dies wrote:

They'll eventually have to buff sniper rifles. As things currently stand, though, it's incredibly unfair (and harmful to the game's future) that new players can up against a person that not only has proficiency 5 (15% damage boost) but then ANOTHER 25% or so damage boost from damage mods.

For the record, I run three mods on my sniper and swarm builds, but generally stick to just one for any other suit. Stacking damage mods either needs to have a steeper penalty (as in 10% for one complex, 15% for two and 17.5% for three complex mods) or simply be restricted to only one equipped at a time. For the rest, certain items need to be nerfed (hardeners should reduce damage based on tier) and others buffed (which I believe the MD is going to be in the next update.)

I'd argue we need a Marksman or Ranger Dropsuit class that's based on light frames. Extend the distance on the weapon you're using along with the damage potential of certain ranged weapons through racial bonuses, of course.

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Tectonic Fusion 1087	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:53:00 - [1] - Quote They are only in a good place because of the current TTK. If they are nerfed, how will I be able to kill people with my sniper rifle? Don't say headshots, because it's really hard to shoot them in the head with a DS3. Also how will the Forge Gun be able to kill tanks? How will the Mass Driver be able to kill the masses...and how will the laser rifle be able to kill...anything. And how will the flaaylock pistol scare people away? Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 506	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:20:00 - [2] - Quote They'll eventually have to buff sniper rifles. As things currently stand, though, it's incredibly unfair (and harmful to the game's future) that new players can up against a person that not only has proficiency 5 (15% damage boost) but then ANOTHER 25% or so damage boost from damage mods. For the record, I run three mods on my sniper and swarm builds, but generally stick to just one for any other suit. Stacking damage mods either needs to have a steeper penalty (as in 10% for one complex, 15% for two and 17.5% for three complex mods) or simply be restricted to only one equipped at a time. For the rest, certain items need to be nerfed (hardeners should reduce damage based on tier) and others buffed (which I believe the MD is going to be in the next update.) Life is killing me.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2728	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:30:00 - [3] - Quote Because it's easier than making all of the other modules worth applying? TL,DR - Thinks make CCP head hurt inside. I GÖú Kittens.
CRYPT3C W0LF Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 386	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:39:00 - [4] - Quote have never speced into damage mods or used them. Whats the point? COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^ Youtube, A Merc with a passion
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1125	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:43:00 - [5] - Quote Are they nerfing damage mods? Damn. But I guess it makes sense if certain groups aren't getting a health bonus but rather a bonus to weapons. Everything Dies wrote: They'll eventually have to buff sniper rifles. As things currently stand, though, it's incredibly unfair (and harmful to the game's future) that new players can up against a person that not only has proficiency 5 (15% damage boost) but then ANOTHER 25% or so damage boost from damage mods. For the record, I run three mods on my sniper and swarm builds, but generally stick to just one for any other suit. Stacking damage mods either needs to have a steeper penalty (as in 10% for one complex, 15% for two and 17.5% for three complex mods) or simply be restricted to only one equipped at a time. For the rest, certain items need to be nerfed (hardeners should reduce damage based on tier) and others buffed (which I believe the MD is going to be in the next update.) I'd argue we need a Marksman or Ranger Dropsuit class that's based on light frames. Extend the distance on the weapon you're using along with the damage potential of certain ranged weapons through racial bonuses, of course. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
castba Penguin's March 326	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:44:00 - [6] - Quote Nerfing damage miss to appease the community's request for slightly linger TTK. Seems obvious and logical.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1105	Posted - 2014.02.21 21:57:00 - [7] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: If they are nerfed, how will I be able to kill people with my sniper rifle? Don't say headshots, because it's really hard to shoot them in the head with a DS3. Get..... good? Sorry, couldn't resist Also, MD buff has been confirmed. MAG ~ Raven
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 504	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:01:00 - [8] - Quote Because they're OP? \|: Right now, the only way to play competitively is triple stacked complex damage mods. The fact that it is a necessity makes them OP by the lack of diversity they create. Also, rifles have insane TTK with those things. a jump from 5% damage to 10% increase is just too far. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 490	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:23:00 - [9] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Right now, the only way to play competitively is triple stacked complex damage mods. The fact that it is a necessity makes them OP by the lack of diversity they create. lol If you say so.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2101	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:26:00 - [10] - Quote People want to nerf damage mode because they are an easy scapegoat. (Think make some players head hurt too.) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!

Llast 326 An Arkhos 2004	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:29:00 - [11] - Quote Where is the info on the damage mod nerf? KRRROOOOOOM
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1683	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:33:00 - [12] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Because they're OP? \|: Right now, the only way to play competitively is triple stacked complex damage mods. The fact that it is a necessity makes them OP by the lack of diversity they create. Stacking damage mods is only really necessary for long range weapons that don't end up in the line of fire often, like the Sniper Rifle. Outside of that, Complex Shield Extenders have always, always, always out-performed Complex Damage Mods since the first day of this game. The players who are aware of this just got sick of posting the math to explain why every single week. So the knowledge seems to have dropped out of the general player base. If damage mods get nerfed, the only module that will be useful in the high-slot will be Complex Shield Extenders, and nothing else. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2375	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:34:00 - [13] - Quote Cause they are the only good option for high slots and make running anything else pointless? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Rusty Shallows 1005	Posted - 2014.02.21 22:59:00 - [14] - Quote So much for scan precision. Only newbs and future Caldari Sentinels will use those. Damage Mods don't need to be nerfed. Just limited to one per type (light, sidearm, heavy) on the Frame. We knew something was off by them during Chromosome. The forced stacking on medium frames for certain weapon types pretty much confirmed it. Stacking DM has made losers of light and heavy frames. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
xSir Campsalotx G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 121	Posted - 2014.02.21 23:01:00 - [15] - Quote Dmg mods on HMG absolutely necesary
Tectonic Fusion 1092	Posted - 2014.02.22 01:16:00 - [16] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Because they're OP? \|: Right now, the only way to play competitively is triple stacked complex damage mods. The fact that it is a necessity makes them OP by the lack of diversity they create. Also, rifles have insane TTK with those things. a jump from 5% damage to 10% increase is just too far. That's like saying a jump from 33 to 66 in shields is too far... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Elitist Ultima Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.02.22 05:22:00 - [17] - Quote bu-nvm... "Meh."
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1262	Posted - 2014.02.22 06:08:00 - [18] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: They are only in a good place because of the current TTK. If they are nerfed, how will I be able to kill people with my sniper rifle? Don't say headshots, because it's really hard to shoot them in the head with a DS3. Also how will the Forge Gun be able to kill tanks? How will the Mass Driver be able to kill the masses...and how will the laser rifle be able to kill...anything. And how will the flaaylock pistol scare people away? I wish the Sniper Rifle rewarded headshots more. Like a 200% critical or 250%. Pistols do 450%!
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1262	Posted - 2014.02.22 06:12:00 - [19] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Where is the info on the damage mod nerf? CCP said they want to change how they work along with the proficiency skills. That's all.
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 120	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:08:00 - [20] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Where is the info on the damage mod nerf? CCP said they want to change how they work along with the proficiency skills. That's all. Right. Less +X% damage on everything and more +X% damage on shields or armour (not both).

bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 120	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:11:00 - [21] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Outside of that, Complex Shield Extenders have always, always, always out-performed Complex Damage Mods since the first day of this game. The players who are aware of this just got sick of posting the math to explain why every single week. So the knowledge seems to have dropped out of the general player base. I don't know... I'd bet on an Assault Scrambled Rifle w Complex Damage Mods versus Complex Shields any day.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2005	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:14:00 - [22] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: Joel II X wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Where is the info on the damage mod nerf? CCP said they want to change how they work along with the proficiency skills. That's all. Right. Less +X% damage on everything and more +X% damage on shields or armour (not both). I may not mind that actually. Different mods for each, could be interesting for builds. KRRROOOOOOM
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1622	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:16:00 - [23] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: They are only in a good place because of the current TTK. If they are nerfed, how will I be able to kill people with my sniper rifle? Don't say headshots, because it's really hard to shoot them in the head with a DS3. Also how will the Forge Gun be able to kill tanks? How will the Mass Driver be able to kill the masses...and how will the laser rifle be able to kill...anything. And how will the flaaylock pistol scare people away? I smell a respec, why should I have my sp wasted on something that's going to blow.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 120	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:16:00 - [24] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Are they nerfing damage mods? Damn. But I guess it makes sense if certain groups aren't getting a health bonus but rather a bonus to weapons. Everything Dies wrote: They'll eventually have to buff sniper rifles. As things currently stand, though, it's incredibly unfair (and harmful to the game's future) that new players can up against a person that not only has proficiency 5 (15% damage boost) but then ANOTHER 25% or so damage boost from damage mods. For the record, I run three mods on my sniper and swarm builds, but generally stick to just one for any other suit. Stacking damage mods either needs to have a steeper penalty (as in 10% for one complex, 15% for two and 17.5% for three complex mods) or simply be restricted to only one equipped at a time. For the rest, certain items need to be nerfed (hardeners should reduce damage based on tier) and others buffed (which I believe the MD is going to be in the next update.) I'd argue we need a Marksman or Ranger Dropsuit class that's based on light frames. Extend the distance on the weapon you're using along with the damage potential of certain ranged weapons through racial bonuses, of course. Distance does NOT need to be increased on the Sniper Rifles. I have been a victim of too many >500m shots (some while in full sprint) and have delivered many >400m headshots (with a basic SR) to believe distance needs a buff.
Brolaire of Asstoria Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 216	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:55:00 - [25] - Quote I say just do away with the blasted things... There's enough of a disparity going on with the proto/militia stomp IMO... I hear voices all the time... I just ignore them and keep on killing...
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 274	Posted - 2014.02.22 07:59:00 - [26] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: They are only in a good place because of the current TTK. If they are nerfed, how will I be able to kill people with my sniper rifle? Don't say headshots, because it's really hard to shoot them in the head with a DS3. Also how will the Forge Gun be able to kill tanks? How will the Mass Driver be able to kill the masses...and how will the laser rifle be able to kill...anything. And how will the flaaylock pistol scare people away? Yeah its really kinda stupid reall.All these people crying for getting rid of damage mods are ***** brainless.Wothout damage mods in exsistance you just free up my high slots to do other things like melee or dual tanking. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4671	Posted - 2014.02.22 08:01:00 - [27] - Quote lowslot for damage mods, more highslot mods. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 122	Posted - 2014.02.22 08:17:00 - [28] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: lowslot for damage mods, more highslot mods. Shield specific Damage Mods in the highs and Armour specific DMs in the lows? (Or vice versa?)
Tectonic Fusion 1095	Posted - 2014.02.22 21:13:00 - [29] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: lowslot for damage mods, more highslot mods. Interesting. I would support this. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 806	Posted - 2014.02.22 21:19:00 - [30] - Quote Hmm interesting point, this is probably the best evidence against a damage mod Nerf. Would a stacking penalty effect these play styles that severely?



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