Because they're OP? |:

Right now, the only way to play competitively is triple stacked complex damage mods. The fact that it is a necessity makes them OP by the lack of diversity they create.

Also, rifles have insane TTK with those things. a jump from 5% damage to 10% increase is just too far.

lowslot for damage mods, more highslot mods.

Hmm interesting point, this is probably the best evidence against a damage mod Nerf. Would a stacking penalty effect these play styles that severely?

Go watch some of the older dust videos when the TTK was a lot higher. I think CEO something or another has videos that old. Brings back memories on how bad the game was back then... Even with it's current state tank out performs damage mods but they have to change something right? No wonder 1.8 is delayed so long that TTK shift gonna hurt more then it helps.

Lets hope I can get good with the MD again now

I think that The fact that the damage bonus doubles from Enh to Cmp is what makes them so strong.

Change the Cmp damage bonus to 7.5%, and that should dial the things down to a reasonable level while still letting Snipers use them to great effect.

You'd go broke betting like that pretty quickly, my good sir.

The math has been presented at-length on these forums numerous times. As long as the 72HP you get from a Complex Shield Extender is more than 12% of your suit's total HP, it beats Damage Mods every single time, no matter the weapon.


More specifically: if a suit has less than 600 total HP (before choosing your hi-slots), extenders always win. No exceptions.

From 600-720 total HP (again before choosing hi-slots), extenders always win except against Scramblers.

Above 720 total HP, Damage Mods win depending on the weapon. That's pretty much only Heavies.


(Edited to show the exact scenarios where which module wins.)

I wouldn't, unless damage mods get split in two: one against armor, one against shields. This way, both styles of tankers can have their tank and gank.

High slot against shield.
Low slot against armor.

If you want both, you'd have to sacrifice tank and dual tanking could still be a thing.

However, high slot mods would give like +10% against armor and -5% against shields. Low slot mods would give +10% against shields, but -5% against armor, so you can't really destroy dual tankers. These numbers are not the best, but I just used them as an example.

This is the only way I can see damage mods being worked out. This is just my opinion, though.

If they nerf them ok .If they dont ok IMo....matters not. Theyll have to tune up things.It be kinda like starting all over.

and there's always the question..... What would happen to AV weps?

I've been saying for a long time that CCP needs to re-evaluate the stacking penalty in DUST. They use the same formula as EVE where ships have 6 or 7 slots sometimes. The penalty in DUST needs to be much more severe because we have so fewer numbers of slots.

Maybe do that first and then start tweaking other values.