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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
477
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:23:00 -
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so tell us kids whats it to you
1 hit ? 2? 3?
or team work and using the rite kind of AV?
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Asterion Cretos
Horizons' Edge
157
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:26:00 -
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I don't use any type of AV or vehicles. Not my style of play. But I honestly don't see this one EVER being completely ironed out. Each side will QQ when the other is brought up a peg. Even if CCP somehow reaches some perfect balance between the two, someone will whine.
I would rather die my way than live by yours.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
477
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:30:00 -
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Asterion Cretos wrote:I don't use any type of AV or vehicles. Not my style of play. But I honestly don't see this one EVER being completely ironed out. Each side will QQ when the other is brought up a peg. Even if CCP somehow reaches some perfect balance between the two, someone will whine.
well im my view something that do,s cost more should be harder to bring down when fitted the rite way !
much like a pro drop suit when fitted the rite way and used you can go 60/3 with it
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2463
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:32:00 -
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1 clip
MLT v MLT = 1 clip
STD v STD = 1 clip
ADV v ADV = 1 clip
PRO v PRO = 1 clip
And all AV to be balanced from that.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1671
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:32:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Asterion Cretos wrote:I don't use any type of AV or vehicles. Not my style of play. But I honestly don't see this one EVER being completely ironed out. Each side will QQ when the other is brought up a peg. Even if CCP somehow reaches some perfect balance between the two, someone will whine. well im my view something that do,s cost more should be harder to bring down when fitted the rite way ! much like a pro drop suit when fitted the rite way and used you can go 60/3 with it
Are you spelling right wrong on purpose.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
Prof. V scrub
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Zene Ren
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
45
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:32:00 -
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balance in this situation equals:
number of vehicle pilots = number of grunts needed to destroy it
ps. not in a single shot ofc not even 3 AV granades
pss. if you want current balance those tanks should require 3 or 4 pilots to operate and not 1 pilot holding 4 grunts to destroy it
simple as that
Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1671
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:33:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:1 clip
MLT v MLT = 1 clip
STD v STD = 1 clip
ADV v ADV = 1 clip
PRO v PRO = 1 clip
And all AV to be balanced from that.
Swarms or FG's because the number varies.
Caldari Tanker/Minmatar Assault
Forum warrior lvl 1
Prof. V scrub
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
1966
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:34:00 -
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Balanced to me is how it's done on titanfall, with the titans.
The titans themselves are devastating, they can tear through infantry in a heardbeat.
BUT it only takes on guy with an Anti-Titan weapon to deal with, you just need a CONCENTRATED effort.
Spkr4thedead: Me > AV
This is why tanks are unbalanced
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2127
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:34:00 -
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Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
477
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:40:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
you never tanked
it do,s take team work
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
140
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:42:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:so tell us kids whats it to you
1 hit ? 2? 3?
or team work and using the rite kind of AV?
I agree it should take team work and using the rite kind of AV.
BUT If it should take 3 people to kill a tank it should take 3 people to drive a tank. simple balance for you. you don't expect 1 dropsuit to require 3 people to kill. the way tanks are in this game it is nothing more than a oversized dropsuit with a 3rd person camera lots more armor, shield, firepower and speed.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2463
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:43:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Rynoceros wrote:1 clip
MLT v MLT = 1 clip
STD v STD = 1 clip
ADV v ADV = 1 clip
PRO v PRO = 1 clip
And all AV to be balanced from that. Swarms or FG's because the number varies.
Swarms are the only pure AV weapons we have and that aren't restricted by choice of dropsuit.
Those must be the metric by which all AV is balanced.
*voidfaction's point is also incredibly valid in this discussion.
I GÖú Kittens.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2129
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:50:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you never tanked it do,s take team work
Then enlighten me, and maybe go into detail other than, "it do, take teamwork".
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
942
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:52:00 -
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My anti-armor BPO suit should solo everything.
Gilitia gorge Guns should flip tanks and dropships with every hit, have 10x the damage, and lock on from across the map.
PCs the same.
The tank touched me: o<-= <----hereGǪ Take me seriously guise.
ADS Kills: Lost count a while ago...
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2977
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:54:00 -
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if my mlt swarms can't OHK it, it's OP
"The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1154
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:55:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Ironic that a protostomper talks about balance....
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
661
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:00:00 -
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Casually moonwalking up to tank, placing remotes on tank, casually walking off in slow-motion while detonating.
Psycho
Explosives are my thing, and knives
Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
478
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:00:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Ironic that a protostomper talks about balance....
I know rite ! :D
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
478
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:01:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Casually moonwalking up to tank, placing remotes on tank, casually walking off in slow-motion while detonating.
someones that has a plan i like you
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1537
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:01:00 -
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I use proto forge guns therefore AV is fine [:D]
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1653
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:04:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:so tell us kids whats it to you
1 hit ? 2? 3?
or team work and using the rite kind of AV?
Current FG is good. Current FG TTK against HAVs (except hardener-stacking ones) is good
I can solo most tanks with an FG; the only time I can't is when they pop multiple hardeners. Shield tanks can be frustrating to solo, considering their massive burst EHP, but that's kind of the whole point, so I'm okay with that.
Remove hardener stacking, nerf railgun damage a little, remove damage mod stacking, and IMO HAVs and AV would be in a good place for balance. Just need to bring PLC and SL to the right level at that point (AV nades can go f*ck themselves).
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4661
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:07:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you never tanked it do,s take team work
XD
And I thought Spkr was an embarrassment to pilots...
Want to know how to make a strike-through?
[s[Example[/s]
Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2466
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:08:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Ironic that a protostomper talks about balance....
Homeboy was stomping scrubs long before he had Proto.
Who needs Proto to stomp Molon Labe, anyways?
I GÖú Kittens.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4661
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:11:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:1 clip
MLT v MLT = 1 clip
STD v STD = 1 clip
ADV v ADV = 1 clip
PRO v PRO = 1 clip
And all AV to be balanced from that.
This ^^^
Except maybe 1.5 clips for Swarms due to it's high ROF, and 2-3 shots from PLCs at it's coyyesponding tiers.
And all on a 1v1 basis.
Want to know how to make a strike-through?
[s[Example[/s]
Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
478
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:14:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you never tanked it do,s take team work Then enlighten me, and maybe go into detail other than, "it do, take teamwork".
just like every thing els !!! calling out where to see av other tanks if you need help where are you how to get to point A - B with out being see or blown up when to push when to fall back so on so on !
i know running pubs all day makes it look like no skill because most pubs are filled with scrubs who do what ever they feel like !
and a tank cant take a points unless the driver gets out ! most drivers will not get out do to the fact its not there job or they dont have the a drop suit for that.
so yes tanking takes team work or one guy in a tank on the other side can blow up the other teams tanks by picking them off at range the other tankers i see time and time again dont call out to ech other about AV hot spots and rail tanks fields of fire so i see a lot of F up,s where a team of tanks rolls in go,s all lone wolf and in 1 min all of them are recalling new tanks and there teams lost the point !
but same could be said for pro stomping !
do,s it take skill?? i bet it do,s just like tanking !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2130
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:16:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Ironic that a protostomper talks about balance....
So what is your corps excuse in PC?
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2529
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:17:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:1 clip
MLT v MLT = 1 clip
STD v STD = 1 clip
ADV v ADV = 1 clip
PRO v PRO = 1 clip
And all AV to be balanced from that.
Hardeners on or off?
Which AV weapon?
Intelligence is OP
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
140
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:17:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you never tanked it do,s take team work Then enlighten me, and maybe go into detail other than, "it do, take teamwork".
Enlighten us all. Because if i'm not mistaken it only takes 1 player to drive, shoot, and activate modules. Wow that is the same number it takes me in my scout dropsuit and my armor, shield, damage and speed is not even close to a tank. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
478
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:17:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Harpyja wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Ironic that you mention teamwork, when tanking requires none
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Ironic that a protostomper talks about balance.... Homeboy was stomping scrubs long before he had Proto. Who needs Proto to stomp Molon Labe, anyways?
if you mean jumping around in the broken scout suit
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2862
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:19:00 -
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I think it becomes an issue when a good tanker is parked in front of an enemy supply depot with 8 people lobbing grenades and swarms and remotes, etc. And he just kills and kills and kills until his multiple hardeners are down.
That's when it frustrates me. They shouldn't be able to sit 10 meters away from multiple people without a fear in the world. Sometimes with two or three rail tanks covering the flanks.
I'm done with it, I'm just going to start backing out. They can stroke each other off for the duration of a match for all I care.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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