DUST Search - Team killing-Item protection

Talos Vagheitan wrote:

Royalgiedro wrote:

I was recently using my thale's-07 sniper during a FW match when a teammate decided to walk up behind me and shoot me in the back until I died. This is obviously purposeful since I turned around and he stared at me for a second before he switched to his SMG and finished me off. This all being in out redline. I believe that losing my thale and LP proto suit to this to be complete BS. I propose that there should be a item protection feature. In order to avoid having organized team killing to avoid losing officer weapons during combat I propose that if you are killed by a teammate and you had 90% health remaining when you started to be shot, with the enemy not shooting you in the progress, you should be reimbursed for your suit and have it not count as a death. This had happened several times and is extremely irritating. If you could help fix this issue that would be greatly appreciated.

You have no idea how happy I am that this happened to you. In short, you deserved it. I would have done the exact same thing.

And let me make this promise: If I ever see anyone on my team sniping from the redline in FW, I will TK you. Especially if you are using a Thales.

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Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 863	Posted - 2014.02.14 14:45:00 - [31] - Quote FF is too funny -50 then +60 for a stick + 72 if you have the frago +25 + 25 +25 for reps math seems wrong For what is right. For what is ours, Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Join us today! *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1293	Posted - 2014.02.15 03:24:00 - [32] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: FF is too funny -50 then +60 for a stick + 72 if you have the frago +25 + 25 +25 for reps math seems wrong oh yea got off topic there..... if you had item protection then if you saw a group of murdeous red you would all just murder suicide each other to save your gear , if you weant to deazl that kind of damage and don't want to lose a thales get a militia rail tank, Another excellent point. OP I hope that if you have learned anything, it is that you are wrong and your opinion was ill informed. Let the troll continue. Fun > Realism
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 860	Posted - 2014.02.15 03:38:00 - [33] - Quote You're an idiot OP for bringing a Thales to FW in all honesty. But also ** the guy that killed you in the * with a ** ** while his mother from a * goat * **** Mickey Rourke's ***. I've been team killed every time I've gone to FW. Forget that garbage I'd rather run Ambush solo. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
ian thebarbarian WarRavens League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2014.02.15 04:09:00 - [34] - Quote In pub match's i actually have used an entire orbital to kill snipers in the redline especially if they are using a thales XD director of warravens
ian thebarbarian WarRavens League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2014.02.15 04:13:00 - [35] - Quote I have nothing against snipers or the thales but i don't like it when snipers hide in the redline and not being useful to the team i believe snipers are very useful to a team if they are positioned in a spot that would actually be useful to the team and secondly i think a thales should be used only for pc they are rare and valuable and your trying way to hard in a pub match and being a kdr monkey when you use a thales in a pub match. director of warravens
ian thebarbarian WarRavens League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2014.02.15 04:24:00 - [36] - Quote But you shouldn't team kill someone for any reason if you team kill on purpose then you are a total ******* i hate that bs. director of warravens
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 05:20:00 - [37] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: Royalgiedro wrote: I was recently using my thale's-07 sniper during a FW match when a teammate decided to walk up behind me and shoot me in the back until I died. This is obviously purposeful since I turned around and he stared at me for a second before he switched to his SMG and finished me off. This all being in out redline. I believe that losing my thale and LP proto suit to this to be complete BS. I propose that there should be a item protection feature. In order to avoid having organized team killing to avoid losing officer weapons during combat I propose that if you are killed by a teammate and you had 90% health remaining when you started to be shot, with the enemy not shooting you in the progress, you should be reimbursed for your suit and have it not count as a death. This had happened several times and is extremely irritating. If you could help fix this issue that would be greatly appreciated. Honestly why were you running anything but a starter fit in FW since it doesn't pay any isk in the first place? because I don't die....unless I'm team killed
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 05:23:00 - [38] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Everyone who commented on this thread are too focused on him sniping and what he was using and blah blah blah kdr padder (which he isn't) and completely ignored that he used his best gear to help give overwatch for his team mates and got killed by a douche who is like the rest of you QQing fucktards who is against sniping in the red line. thankyou!
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 05:26:00 - [39] - Quote ian thebarbarian wrote: I have nothing against snipers or the thales but i don't like it when snipers hide in the redline and not being useful to the team i believe snipers are very useful to a team if they are positioned in a spot that would actually be useful to the team and secondly i think a thales should be used only for pc they are rare and valuable and your trying way to hard in a pub match and being a kdr monkey when you use a thales in a pub match. I was on the map where you can see the ENTIRE map. I was killing people who were hiding in their redline
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 05:31:00 - [40] - Quote Anyways, this has gone off topic. I'm talking about being team killed in general and than losing your stuff. I've been 33-1 before while running my logi and was team killed by a guy who was 3-15 because they didn't like that I was helping the team. Stuff like that should allow reimbursement. Assuming that the circumstances match those that I presented in the opening statement. If a CCP developer could respond instead of people yelling at me for sniping that would be appreciated.

Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.15 05:32:00 - [41] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Nope. You should not be reimbursed a single thing. 1) You brought that Thales into a battle which you knew had FF enabled. 2) You didn't pay anything for it so I have no idea how CCP would be able to give you anything back for it. 3) You just admitted you were redline sniping which means that not only were you being a useless KDR padder but you were also doing absolutely nothing to help your team. If I had been in that game I would have killed you too. Then I would have picked you up, and killed you again, until I ran out of patience and bled your corpse out. 2.) they could give me a thale, lol
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 39	Posted - 2014.02.15 06:28:00 - [42] - Quote I've had a few people try to kill me, it's really annoying but eh, I've never lost anything from it. It's kinda funny when you have a militia suit try to shoot you, but you just turn around in full proto and pop em in the face. Most recent attempt came from a scout who placed RE's on my LAV. I figured I'd be nice and wait for him to get in. Bad idea. Sat there for a few seconds, then when he started placing the RE's, I got out and backed away, only for him to blow them a few moments later. Tried to chase him down, but he hid behind a little hill and then left the game... Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 449	Posted - 2014.02.15 06:59:00 - [43] - Quote Royalgiedro wrote: I was recently using my thale's-07 sniper during a FW match when a teammate decided to walk up behind me and shoot me in the back until I died. This is obviously purposeful since I turned around and he stared at me for a second before he switched to his SMG and finished me off. This all being in out redline. I believe that losing my thale and LP proto suit to this to be complete BS. I propose that there should be a item protection feature. In order to avoid having organized team killing to avoid losing officer weapons during combat I propose that if you are killed by a teammate and you had 90% health remaining when you started to be shot, with the enemy not shooting you in the progress, you should be reimbursed for your suit and have it not count as a death. This had happened several times and is extremely irritating. If you could help fix this issue that would be greatly appreciated. You have no idea how happy I am that this happened to you. In short, you deserved it. I would have done the exact same thing. And let me make this promise: If I ever see anyone on my team sniping from the redline in FW, I will TK you. Especially if you are using a Thales. Who cares what some sniper has to say
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 862	Posted - 2014.02.15 07:02:00 - [44] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: You have no idea how happy I am that this happened to you. In short, you deserved it. I would have done the exact same thing. And let me make this promise: If I ever see anyone on my team sniping from the redline in FW, I will TK you. Especially if you are using a Thales. Then I hope I'm on the other team so I can snipe the **** out of your side without worrying about a counter-sniper. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
killertojo42 Sardaukar Merc Guild 12	Posted - 2014.02.15 07:06:00 - [45] - Quote ian thebarbarian wrote: But you shouldn't team kill someone for any reason if you team kill on purpose then you are a total ***** i hate that bs. I disagree, if i see part of my team ***** around in the red line letting the other team easily outnumber mine and lose because of it they deserve to be shot When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
killertojo42 Sardaukar Merc Guild 12	Posted - 2014.02.15 07:09:00 - [46] - Quote Royalgiedro wrote: killertojo42 wrote: Royalgiedro wrote: I was recently using my thale's-07 sniper during a FW match when a teammate decided to walk up behind me and shoot me in the back until I died. This is obviously purposeful since I turned around and he stared at me for a second before he switched to his SMG and finished me off. This all being in out redline. I believe that losing my thale and LP proto suit to this to be complete BS. I propose that there should be a item protection feature. In order to avoid having organized team killing to avoid losing officer weapons during combat I propose that if you are killed by a teammate and you had 90% health remaining when you started to be shot, with the enemy not shooting you in the progress, you should be reimbursed for your suit and have it not count as a death. This had happened several times and is extremely irritating. If you could help fix this issue that would be greatly appreciated. Honestly why were you running anything but a starter fit in FW since it doesn't pay any isk in the first place? because I don't die....unless I'm team killed That's just admitting to being a red line sniper, you deserved it, oh and by the way i have yet to be team killed once When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 742	Posted - 2014.02.15 09:46:00 - [47] - Quote As far as marking an ally as a traitor goes I would say turn there chevron into a skull that is flaming(as if scanned). If you FF an ally and they DON'T forgive you(say 2 strikes?) then you are a traitor. LP and SP gained is cut in half if you are still marked when the match ends. If the allies you killed manage to slay you then you are no longer marked (payed for your crimes). Well, just a thought. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1502	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:06:00 - [48] - Quote As one of the people who killed you, and received your delicious hatemail, the presence of this thread tickles the crud out of me. No, you should not be protected from losing things to blues in a friendly fire enabled match. I killed you precisely to relieve you of your Thale's, which you should've known was not a good idea to bring into a FacWar match and redline snipe with. I am also tickled pink by the fact that your salvaged Thale's went to a squadmate. Risk/reward means you field a large risk in hopes of better reward. Don't spawn with any gun you aren't prepared to lose. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1502	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:08:00 - [49] - Quote Also, as a note, my choice to send this unfortunate soul back to the map screen had nothing to do with his choice of playstyle. I frequently snipe myself, both in and out of the redline (including sometimes, comedically, sniping from inside the enemy redline). Also, it was my first teamkill. ;) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Zohar Colichemarde Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 28	Posted - 2014.02.16 01:09:00 - [50] - Quote Royalgiedro wrote: I was recently using my thale's-07 sniper during a FW match when a teammate decided to walk up behind me and shoot me in the back until I died. This is obviously purposeful since I turned around and he stared at me for a second before he switched to his SMG and finished me off. This all being in out redline. I believe that losing my thale and LP proto suit to this to be complete BS. I propose that there should be a item protection feature. In order to avoid having organized team killing to avoid losing officer weapons during combat I propose that if you are killed by a teammate and you had 90% health remaining when you started to be shot, with the enemy not shooting you in the progress, you should be reimbursed for your suit and have it not count as a death. This had happened several times and is extremely irritating. If you could help fix this issue that would be greatly appreciated. Cry some more. Your tears are delicious. I <3 Laser Rocks.

Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 132	Posted - 2014.02.16 05:32:00 - [51] - Quote I highly enjoy this thread. Don't ever use a weapon you aren't willing to lose especially in a faction warfare match where random people are able to kill you. I will happily and eagerly kill any teammate i notice using an officer weapon. The rage at the unfairness and injustice is simply so satisfying. To know you did something completely within the bounds of the game that had such a significant impact on somebody over such a trivial thing. Oh the tears. This is new Eden getting a strong reaction out of someone and being able to influence their enjoyment is the whole point.
Zohar Colichemarde Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 28	Posted - 2014.02.16 06:18:00 - [52] - Quote Villanor Aquarius wrote: I highly enjoy this thread. Don't ever use a weapon you aren't willing to lose especially in a faction warfare match where random people are able to kill you. I will happily and eagerly kill any teammate i notice using an officer weapon. The rage at the unfairness and injustice is simply so satisfying. To know you did something completely within the bounds of the game that had such a significant impact on somebody over such a trivial thing. Oh the tears. This is new Eden getting a strong reaction out of someone and being able to influence their enjoyment is the whole point. If I see someone on my team using a Thales, I will not stop until I hunt the them down and shotgun their faces off. I <3 Laser Rocks.
ian thebarbarian WarRavens League of Infamy 14	Posted - 2014.02.16 07:35:00 - [53] - Quote yeah please let the man have his say. director of warravens
ian thebarbarian WarRavens League of Infamy 14	Posted - 2014.02.16 07:39:00 - [54] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: ian thebarbarian wrote: But you shouldn't team kill someone for any reason if you team kill on purpose then you are a total ***** i hate that bs. I disagree, if i see part of my team ***** around in the red line letting the other team easily outnumber mine and lose because of it they deserve to be shot you make a good point. director of warravens
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 09:20:00 - [55] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Royalgiedro wrote: I was recently using my thale's-07 sniper during a FW match when a teammate decided to walk up behind me and shoot me in the back until I died. This is obviously purposeful since I turned around and he stared at me for a second before he switched to his SMG and finished me off. This all being in out redline. I believe that losing my thale and LP proto suit to this to be complete BS. I propose that there should be a item protection feature. In order to avoid having organized team killing to avoid losing officer weapons during combat I propose that if you are killed by a teammate and you had 90% health remaining when you started to be shot, with the enemy not shooting you in the progress, you should be reimbursed for your suit and have it not count as a death. This had happened several times and is extremely irritating. If you could help fix this issue that would be greatly appreciated. You have no idea how happy I am that this happened to you. In short, you deserved it. I would have done the exact same thing. And let me make this promise: If I ever see anyone on my team sniping from the redline in FW, I will TK you. Especially if you are using a Thales. that doesn't make sence why you would. All you're doing is stopping your team from doing well. There goes the guy defending you with 900+ damage a shot. lol
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 09:22:00 - [56] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: As one of the people who killed you, and received your delicious hatemail, the presence of this thread tickles the crud out of me. No, you should not be protected from losing things to blues in a friendly fire enabled match. I killed you precisely to relieve you of your Thale's, which you should've known was not a good idea to bring into a FacWar match and redline snipe with. I am also tickled pink by the fact that your salvaged Thale's went to a squadmate. Risk/reward means you field a large risk in hopes of better reward. Don't spawn with any gun you aren't prepared to lose. You were the one I was talking about. And there is only a 25% chance of that
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 09:22:00 - [57] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Also, as a note, my choice to send this unfortunate soul back to the map screen had nothing to do with his choice of playstyle. I frequently snipe myself, both in and out of the redline (including sometimes, comedically, sniping from inside the enemy redline). Also, it was my first teamkill. ;) I know you snipe. You shot me with a tactical sniper
Royalgiedro Nor Clan Combat Logistics 0	Posted - 2014.02.17 09:25:00 - [58] - Quote Can players stop posting please? I want to talk to a developer. not people bitching about my thale
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 748	Posted - 2014.02.17 10:39:00 - [59] - Quote Royalgiedro wrote: Can players stop posting please? I want to talk to a developer. not people bitching about my thale I'd give you a thales if I could but sadly I can't (lol when the market opens up I'm selling off my officer weapons for dirt cheap!) Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 803	Posted - 2014.02.17 10:46:00 - [60] - Quote While I'm against teamkilling in general, the whole risk/reward thing is a major part of New Eden. You took a big risk in hopes of a big reward, but it didn't pay off. That being said, I do like the concept of allowing the players to punish griefers. The current system allows this to an extent, but being able to ram an HMG up their butt (without being punished yourself) would do a lot to alleviate the grief they cause. ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote: As far as marking an ally as a traitor goes I would say turn there chevron into a skull that is flaming(as if scanned). If you FF an ally and they DON'T forgive you(say 2 strikes?) then you are a traitor. LP and SP gained is cut in half if you are still marked when the match ends. If the allies you killed manage to slay you then you are no longer marked (payed for your crimes). Well, just a thought. This sounds like a good way to do it. The only thing I would change is they would be marked until they have been killed the same amount of times they have been 'punished'. Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Mark Twain



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