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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
16
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Posted - 2014.02.12 00:59:00 -
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Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much. |
CRYPT3C W0LF
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
349
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:01:00 -
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CCP Troll wrote:Deal with it
COOKIE MASTER RACE ^__^
Youtube, A Merc with a passion
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
87
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:01:00 -
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Perhaps you should seek professional help? But honestly, anything that kills tanks is Okay in my book. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
4507
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:03:00 -
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........**** yes.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3108
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:04:00 -
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I'm pretty sick of these seeing these heavies, and seeing it, and seeing it
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
248
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:04:00 -
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OK Com'on they aren't that bad. Seriously have you ever tried using them?
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Ripcord19981
Knightz of the Round Legacy Rising
430
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:05:00 -
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guess ill rig my REs to magically seek you out and insta kill u in pubs. LOL.
Anyway, in 1.8, you'll need 2 REs to kill a heavy
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2940
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:07:00 -
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if you can't run away or kill the RE user in the time it takes for them to throw it down and back away you deserve to die
"The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
275
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:16:00 -
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Decrease the throw range
I've also seen someone slide one across the floor......might've been lagging or something but it looked like the remote hit the ground but slid another couple meters and blew up taking a couple of blueberries
Real heavies use lasers
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3108
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:17:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:guess ill rig my REs to magically seek you out and insta kill u in pubs. LOL.
Anyway, in 1.8, you'll need 2 REs to kill a heavy That's what I was thinking....Amarr Sentinel will be the bane of Minnies
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
959
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:18:00 -
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Lol he mad. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
542
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:19:00 -
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lol suppose you should blame tanks, as they were rarely needed or used prior to 1.7.
CCP your matchmaking sucks
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
204
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:20:00 -
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I'm sick of seeing at least 1/4-1/2 of teams now being comprised of fatsuits with rail rifles because they can't fight in a medium suit or have poor aim so they have to have an extra 400ehp over logi suits.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
3182
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:20:00 -
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Coming from a guy in corporation named "Suicide Spite Squad"
That's hilarious.
Hey, take your butt whoopings like the mercenary you supposed to be. It's a part of the game. Stop rushing folks all the time, that's how they get you. They bait you.
If you see a scout and knows he sees you and he runs up to you and backs off. Maybe you wanna try running in the other direction within that nanosecond. Or here comes the boom, ready or not.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1032
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:21:00 -
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just wait untill you encounter one of us who actually knows how to make the most of em.... you will curse us demo experts even more then.
in my serious demo fits i have a set of explosives hidden around my objective in places you would definatly nto expect PLUS another set for corner traps.... heavys beware i love throwing it at your feet and watching you try to hop away while i detonate... |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1564
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:22:00 -
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I <3 being an RE fisherman.
Threads like this make it all the more worth it.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
343
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:25:00 -
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Tears of a heavy, so delicious.
32db Mad Bomber.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
3182
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:27:00 -
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LOL when you see that scout rushing at the corner of your eye trying to flank you...my RR starts spazzing. Oh no you don't buddy. Oh no you don't!!
That's the first person I shoot if I happen upon a crowd of reds
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1009
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:30:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:Decrease the throw range
I've also seen someone slide one across the floor......might've been lagging or something but it looked like the remote hit the ground but slid another couple meters and blew up taking a couple of blueberries Super soldier clones with suits that increase strength. *Can't throw 5-10 lbs devise more than 5 feet*
CCP Saberwing "Vehicles have taken a step in the right direction"
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
17
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:33:00 -
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I should clarify: I don't mind when players take the time to set traps. That's good strategy. What I don't like is seeing someone in a light suit get caught in the blast of their own RE but run through unscathed. Or sit on a stack of them, blow you up but not die himself. That's just crap. |
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
492
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:34:00 -
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The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
4511
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:35:00 -
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Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
498
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:36:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:........**** yes.
Mission accomplished. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
3182
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:37:00 -
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ah okay, like the WB strikes...you expect the sender to get some damage too. Gotcha
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1009
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:45:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down. +1 Technically we should also be able to a bunch of other stuff when we are in a bleeding out state. Like call down OBs. In Star Wars Republic Commando books the clones can control most of their Mandolorian Beskar' Gam, suit, features and some external features via eye movement, flicking, and blinking. It would be cool if we had more things we could add to our suit internally. Like night vision, heat sensors, (maybe for a sci-fi dust touch) add flux sensors. Strong shields(shield with high HP show up on screen.
Ever since I realized what a red target on a downed body meant, I shoot the body.
CCP Saberwing "Vehicles have taken a step in the right direction"
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
113
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:47:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:QQi dont like RE's QQ somebdypitty me QQ all i do is B*tch at in game dynamicsQQ RE's are OP QQ i dont like it when ppl kill meQQ whinewhine jihadjeeps are unfair QQ REs arnt fair QQ dicks keep blowing me up QQ why are the RE's not like COD why isn Dust COD QQ BF4 is OP why dont people use remote explosives like i think they should QQ im a whiney b*tch.
what i read^
Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden.
KAMEHAMEHA
professional Heavy for hire
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
492
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:47:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down.
You know that is IMPOSSIBILE to kill them BEFORE they press the button. If you're lucky you get and headshot and then, work done.
To kill the body you have to hit it, and to hit on ground you have to move you sight and shoot. Don't matter how fast you are, still slower than press a single button.
Why don't we add this feature to all weapon, so while we are in bleed mode you can still fire your weapon...
Do it sound OP to you like it's for me?
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
4514
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:54:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down. You know that is IMPOSSIBILE to kill them BEFORE they press the button. If you're lucky you get and headshot and then, work done. To kill the body you have to hit it, and to hit on ground you have to move you sight and shoot. Don't matter how fast you are, still slower than press a single button. Why don't we add this feature to all weapon, so while we are in bleed mode you can still fire your weapon... Do it sound OP to you like it's for me? Impossible, no, more difficult to be sure but not outright undoable.
You can actually kill someone before they hit the ground, this is easily done by rifles, explosive weapons also take them out.
If you didn't put the guy down and he's placed an explosive next to you he's simply outplayed you.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
17
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:02:00 -
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I hadn't thought of the red until dead aspect and will just keep shooting until the dot turns white from this point onward. |
PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
107
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:07:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Tears of a heavy, so delicious. Although high in calories |
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
492
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:10:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote: CUT
Sorry but it's not being outplayed. I'm not talking about traps and RE in general. i'm talking about people tossing explosive when they know that they don't have a chance to win the engage in CQC Toss the explosive, and if the animation start the enemy is 100% death. Sometimes i use my remote tankiller for clear an area from camped pprotostomper?
I outplayed them? no i simply run straight my BPO with 2 kin cat ( faster than the frame rate!!!! ) in their face, toss the explosive collect my WP reward. They kill me? No problem.
Explosive in CQC? trying to hit a flying rag doll animation so he can't pull the trigger? CMON, let's be serious.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3569
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:10:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much. Honestly, if you're a heavy and you get killed by a RE, that's your fault for not watching your step.
As for tanks, don't go FOTM and you won't have to deal with my exploding jeeps.
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // C.E.O of Alpha Response Command
Patron saint of Commandos =ƒÿç
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
17
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:17:00 -
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I dont step on explosives or drive tanks for those who havent bothered to actually read any of these posts before they decided their opinion mattered to the rest of us, but thank you anyway for illustrating what many of us believe is ****** with the DUST 514 community. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1567
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:25:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL when you see that scout rushing at the corner of your eye trying to flank you...my RR starts spazzing. Oh no you don't buddy. Oh no you don't!!
That's the first person I shoot if I happen upon a crowd of reds While that is a good thing to do, I have a question.
When you see that reddot pop out from around a corner and take a couple of potshots at you before ducking back around the corner, do you give chase?
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
567
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:28:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote: CUT Sorry but it's not being outplayed. I'm not talking about traps and RE in general. i'm talking about people tossing explosive when they know that they don't have a chance to win the engage in CQC Toss the explosive, and if the animation start the enemy is 100% death. Sometimes i use my remote tankiller for clear an area from camped pprotostomper? I outplayed them? no i simply run straight my BPO with 2 kin cat ( faster than the frame rate!!!! ) in their face, toss the explosive collect my WP reward. They kill me? No problem. Explosive in CQC? trying to hit a flying rag doll animation so he can't pull the trigger? CMON, let's be serious.
If you are wearing a Proto suit, and are camping, that kind of means you deserved that death. Proto suits were NEVER meant to allow positive money gains, so don't start complaining about the loss of a suit. Milita and STD suits are what you use in Public matches and remotes are a good reminder of WHY. They took a death on themselves just to get to the other person when that happens.
The deaths are equivalent, and if you find that you are running out of cash because you can't balance your wallet... that's your problem. If You find out that you can't buffer your KDR by camping anymore, that's also your problem.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2386
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:28:00 -
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I'll never forget the first time I ran across one of those guys. Cracker Jacked - dude was destroying my fairly organized team on the bridge pretty much singlehandedly. We were focusing fire on the incoming zerg and he just ran around and through everybody so efficiently, decimating 2-4 clones at a time. It was so aggravating and hilarious, in hindsight.
If you've ever tried to be that good at it, you know it is damn difficult to master the timing to make everyone of them count +50 without costing you a dropsuit in the process.
All others have just been sloppy imitators, in my opinion.
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
246
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:39:00 -
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RE grenades O_O
Didn't know I could throw them like grenades
Must be one of them new military heat seeking UAV REs
CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
207
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:47:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down. You know that is IMPOSSIBILE to kill them BEFORE they press the button. If you're lucky you get and headshot and then, work done. To kill the body you have to hit it, and to hit on ground you have to move you sight and shoot. Don't matter how fast you are, still slower than press a single button. Why don't we add this feature to all weapon, so while we are in bleed mode you can still fire your weapon... Do it sound OP to you like it's for me?
Awesome! I can go for that idea. Then we can all get a Second Wind like in Borderlands and keep fighting.
It's a trap! In this patch we can't repel firepower of that magnitude! - Admiral Ackbar would say in ambush w Nyain San
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zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
496
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:50:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:Perhaps you should seek professional help? But honestly, anything that kills tanks is Okay in my book.
AR
Dmg: 34,
RoF: 750 RPM,
DPS: 425,
RR
Dmg: 55,
RoF: 461 RPM,
DPS: 422,
+ double the range.
Balanced.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
555
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:52:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote: Amarr Sentinel will be the bane of Minnies
*Glorious music plays as a legion of Amarr Sentinels walk through fields of explosions, lasers burning all in their path.*
I contribute nothing.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3993
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:01:00 -
[41] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1818280#post1818280
Best part is, I VERY rarely get killed by REs. I see them alot, but I take care of them.
I am your scan error.
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J0LLY R0G3R
0uter.Heaven
469
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:04:00 -
[42] - Quote
I don't mind killing myself as long as 3 of your team follows me to the spawn screen.
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
217
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:04:00 -
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Let me see if I understand you correctly.
Alternate Insano wrote:QQ
Do you not realize that REs and Jihad Jeeps are one of the more effective and ENTERTAINING ways of dealing with the disgusting, rampant tank spam? REs are helping me to find fun in this slowly dying game.
"...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
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safura trotsky
Kill Mode Activated
2
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:15:00 -
[44] - Quote
GOOD....GOOOOOD your butthurt sustains me.
Thanks for picking me up blueberry!...and again...and again...STAHP!!!
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3113
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Posted - 2014.02.12 07:34:00 -
[45] - Quote
Alternate Insano wrote:I should clarify: I don't mind when players take the time to set traps. That's good strategy. What I don't like is seeing someone in a light suit get caught in the blast of their own RE but run through unscathed. Or sit on a stack of them, blow you up but not die himself. That's just crap. You just have poor observation skills which would put it about on par with your other skills *Kelso says Burn!*
Please deposit likes in Swiss Bank account. The Feds don't ensure beyond 3k.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
329
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Posted - 2014.02.12 07:35:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:if you can't run away or kill the RE user in the time it takes for them to throw it down and back away you deserve to die But theyre op instakill thing is too fast, you shoot the guy once or twice then boom
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter mlt frame,
Templar set
Caldari Master Race
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
181
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Posted - 2014.02.12 08:47:00 -
[47] - Quote
I prefer it when tears are delivered to me personally, but I'll accept this generous public offering.
I mean if you only have a HMG(?) and greater EHP on your base shields than I currently do my whole fit, what chance could you possibly have - against someone running in about 10m from you, throwing an explosive device with less blast radius than a basic grenade, waiting for it to arm, so they can manually detonate it, which leaves them kinda defenceless and without a follow up if it fails.
It is so terribly unfair on protos spawn campers that we spawn in range like that.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
626
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Posted - 2014.02.12 08:56:00 -
[48] - Quote
I blew you up in self-defense. 'I felt threatened by the spawn camping proto fat-ass with a HMG officer.'
Psycho
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only pull you down to their level, and then beat you with experience"
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
292
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Posted - 2014.02.12 09:02:00 -
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Was not you the proto heavy I remoted 4-5 times in my dren scout outfit last night ?
Thank you for al the fish
War never changes
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
405
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Posted - 2014.02.12 09:07:00 -
[50] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1818280#post1818280
Best part is, I VERY rarely get killed by REs. I see them alot, but I take care of them. I get killed by them - at least if they are Blue, and I'm in FW ... 4 REs later, our team is suddenly 1 man short
Team Fairy DUST
HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1122
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Posted - 2014.02.12 09:09:00 -
[51] - Quote
the throw range is like 1.5 meters, they literally drop down in front of your feet and they have an activation delay. you can even shoot the RE while thrown in air and make them explode.
how hard can it be to move backwards and shoot at the same time? maybe stop rushing right in front of their face or are you scrubs that are too dense to adapt to the situation? |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
93
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Posted - 2014.02.12 10:18:00 -
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I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles.
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
292
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Posted - 2014.02.12 10:33:00 -
[53] - Quote
Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles.
I kind of like it.
With your last breath if air you push the bottom and say "jipikaye mf"
War never changes
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
182
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Posted - 2014.02.12 10:59:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles.
The whole 'dying soldier activates detonator with their last breath' thing is too classic a scenario to be removed.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Shyeer Alvarin
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:08:00 -
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I dunno... I'm giggling about my Jihad Jeeps that have remotes on the front, back, and both sides.
Drive up to a squad, wait for them to get close, get out. hit the detonator. Watch the kills come in. Take my jeep back and drive away.
Needless to say it was -extremely- hilarious.
For every ingenious trap, there's always at least one idiot that will ruin it. The best traps often rely on the stupidity of your opponent.
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Sleepy Shadow
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:23:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. I kind of like it. With your last breath if air you push the bottom and say "jipikaye mf"
Oh itGÇÖs funny alright :) but I just donGÇÖt think that it should be possible. It is pretty unfair that I can kill people or defend objectives while downed. Well I donGÇÖt, I donGÇÖt actually even know how to detonate them when IGÇÖm downed and probably better off not knowing. It would be much too attempting knowing how
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:25:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: I lack reading understanding.
If you care to READ, and not just imagine what i wrote, you see that I use that tactic to kill CAMPED protostompers.
But the problem of proto or not. We have a weapon that grant a sure kill AFTER YOU'RE DEAD.
I don't mind being killed by a remote trap, You deserve that kill. Like a shotgun kill or a Forge kill.
What i can't take is people tossing a remote when they understand that they lose the engage and give them a sure kill AFTER death.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Shyeer Alvarin
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:27:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. I kind of like it. With your last breath if air you push the bottom and say "jipikaye mf" Oh itGÇÖs funny alright :) but I just donGÇÖt think that it should be possible. It is pretty unfair that I can kill people or defend objectives while downed. Well I donGÇÖt, I donGÇÖt actually even know how to detonate them when IGÇÖm downed and probably better off not knowing. It would be much too attempting knowing how
Mashing my triggers/bumpers worked for me.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:30:00 -
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It would be cool if you could make RE explode by shooting at them while they have them in their hands. Imagine the rage, you equip RE> a casual shot of a MLT AR land on it> Boom.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1392
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:38:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much. Did my name show up in big flashing lights that said
" OZAROW JUST KILLED YOU WITH A REMOTE FOR BEING A BIG DUMB HEAVY CAMPING A CRU, CHASING AN DOING DRIVE BYES IN YOUR STUPID CAR, NOT USING FLUX GRENADES WHEN YOU ENTER A ROOM, SCRUBBING AROUND IN YOUR MILITIA TANK, CHASING SCOUTS AN NOT LOOKING WHERE YOU WALK!"
If all of the above an more than you probably deserved it=ƒÿ¥
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1392
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:40:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:It would be cool if you could make RE explode by shooting at them while they have them in their hands. Imagine the rage, you equip RE> a casual shot of a MLT AR land on it> Boom.
Btw, RE must be placed, not throwed, CCP need to delete the deploy time, in this way you will be able to place your RE instantly, activation is still delayed depending on the variant. The fact you can detonate them while downed is a BUG, otherwise they have not to count death till your actually dead (clone eliminated, not bleeding) but bleeding status count as a death, so you should not be able to detonate RE. You can
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:46:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem
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Sleepy Shadow
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:57:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem
You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:01:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:Decrease the throw range
I've also seen someone slide one across the floor......might've been lagging or something but it looked like the remote hit the ground but slid another couple meters and blew up taking a couple of blueberries
I would love to see a slide function on my remotes. OP, please grow up, it's a weapon that kills stuff, its gonna be used to kill people wether you believe fairly or not. The device has to be ARMED after sticking, so if you aren't killing the guy BEFORE he has time to, press the button that's poor on your part.
It's what you get for chasing that easy kil you thought you had.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:03:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible.
You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:09:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down. You know that is IMPOSSIBILE to kill them BEFORE they press the button. If you're lucky you get and headshot and then, work done. To kill the body you have to hit it, and to hit on ground you have to move you sight and shoot. Don't matter how fast you are, still slower than press a single button. Why don't we add this feature to all weapon, so while we are in bleed mode you can still fire your weapon... Do it sound OP to you like it's for me?
Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1570
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:16:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the throw range is like 1.5 meters, they literally drop down in front of your feet and they have an activation delay. you can even shoot the RE while thrown in air and make them explode.
how hard can it be to move backwards and shoot at the same time? maybe stop rushing right in front of their face or are you scrubs that are too dense to adapt to the situation? lol, if you're only tossing them 1.5m, you're doing it wrong.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1570
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:20:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: I lack reading understanding. If you care to READ, and not just imagine what i wrote, you see that I use that tactic to kill CAMPED protostompers. But the problem of proto or not. We have a weapon that grant a sure kill AFTER YOU'RE DEAD. I don't mind being killed by a remote trap, You deserve that kill. Like a shotgun kill or a Forge kill. What i can't take is people tossing a remote when they understand that they lose the engage and give them a sure kill AFTER death. When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it".
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:29:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it".
I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill.
My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Jastad
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495
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:30:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote: Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that.
This is a different matter, We are talking about hitscan weapon and server-latency in here.
TOTALLY different matter from trig an equip while in bleed mode.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1570
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:31:00 -
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Shyeer Alvarin wrote:I dunno... I'm giggling about my Jihad Jeeps that have remotes on the front, back, and both sides.
Drive up to a squad, wait for them to get close, get out. hit the detonator. Watch the kills come in. Take my jeep back and drive away.
Needless to say it was -extremely- hilarious.
For every ingenious trap, there's always at least one idiot that will ruin it. The best traps often rely on the stupidity of your opponent.
Last night, I was running around nearly using REs to the exclusion of all other weapons (as a direct result of reading this thread).
I got this one douchebag in my squad that kept running his mouth about how he was the greatest heavy ever and how he knew AV better than anyone else. He was a "tank-killer" par excellence, at least that is what he kept saying, who wasn't using "any fake money son, that's a real money forge son, AUR forge son".
He got under my skin something fierce, mainly because he kept ruining my traps. I didn't mind him running his mouth so much as the ruining my traps. He would chase the enemies away (dying in the process and not killing any either) when I had corners trapped and he killed the red LAV I trapped ("I ain't going to have points in from of me and not take it son").
At the end of the match I would've expected him to have more than 370 WP at 13th on our teams aftermatch stats. Even with him ruining as many of my traps as he did, I still managed to be first.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1570
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:33:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. But that is half the fun.
I mean, seriously, how hard is it to shoot their body as you're backing up?
Never not bleed your enemies out.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:40:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. But that is half the fun. I mean, seriously, how hard is it to shoot their body as you're backing up? Never not bleed your enemies out.
I know it's fun, i use a BPO fit and remote to kill protobear camping CRU. But the fact that i like it don't make it balanced.
I ALWAYS kill the body, i don't like that an hidden logi pull up a Protobear on my back. But don't matter 'cause to shoot the body you have to move your aim and shot. Don't matter how fast you can be, still slower then pressing a button.
Thats the only problem right now. Remove the after death trig ability and only true Demolition expert will remain.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:42:00 -
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IDK, I still like the whole "Dead Man's Stick" concept
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2935
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:49:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:if you can't run away or kill the RE user in the time it takes for them to throw it down and back away you deserve to die
But a lot of suits CANT run away...
in fact where the remote is thrown on the screen and where it ends up are usually two different things, so you have no point of reference to run from. and they can activate the remote after death, effectively suicide ganking with a 100% success rate. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
415
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:14:00 -
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Xender17 wrote: Super soldier clones with suits that increase strength. *Can't throw 5-10 lbs devise more than 5 feet*
Really, you're going to try to bring up real life physics for a game that you've been playing for so long that has never attempted to base itself on said physics. Lol, try again RL physics are used to inspire some mechanics in Dust, but game mechanics that give fun, balanced gameplay within the constraints of both the developers and the PS3's abilities have been trumping real life physics and should continue to do so.
Fire of Prometheus wrote: Honestly, if you're a heavy and you get killed by a RE, that's your fault for not watching your step.
As for tanks, don't go FOTM and you won't have to deal with my exploding jeeps.
I'm going to presume that you're trolling Fire! Otherwise you've really lost concept of playing as a full heavy moving at a crawl against an enemy high speed light or medium suit throwing/placing remotes. I do watch my step, and I do spot most remotes, but the truth of the matter is that we can't do much about them in our ideal battle range of corridors, corners, buildings, etc. What, should we just sit in the corner not moving due to fear of the remote explosive buggyman getting us
It doesn't take massive skill to set up a heavy with remotes, and your claim that it's the heavy's fault is absolute bull. I accept that remotes are one of my big weak spots, but don't go pretending we can do alot about them The Commando suit has that bit of better mobility that helps, a suit that you're used to, so keep your comments to that, and leave main heavies out if you don't have a clue.
I'm on the fence as to throwing range. As to whether CCP have tweaked the throw distance recently I don't know for sure, but I'm getting flashbacks of remotes being thrown like frisbees that we had 16+months ago. They're not as bad, and I do occasionally get a bit of a laugh when I see one flying around the corner knowing I'm dead as I try to waddle backwards. Mostly I've a silent rage, but I do that for most instant deaths, remotes or not. They're grand in my view at the moment, but might have to be tweaked once cloaks are fully implemented.
As for remotes on jeeps, lol. If tankers agree to be only allowed to put one hardener on their vehicle so that CCP's windows of opportunity ideal can actually exist, then yeh, remotes should be stopped from being stuck to LAVs. Until then, suck it up and stick a small turret on your HAV and carry a gunner to watch your back. AND, learn to accept the occasional death from one, although I know that's beyond some of ye with the God complex ye have. |
Neo Rinzler
Commando Perkone Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:28:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much.
As soon as I see a Heavy Using a Light Weapon I switch to my dampened RE Scout .. As soon as I see a group of players in Proto gear in a pubgame I switch to the same RE Scout Fit
RE's allow newer players to bridge the SP and HP gap and TBH good players can avoid them, the people it really hurts are those reliant on scanners/High HP suits
I absolutely hate using this but ... HTFU Get Good
Using RE's effectively takes skill and often you have to sacrifice yourself to get the kill, if you don't worry about your KD/R and want to have fun you should try it .. it's a nice change and gets the adrenaline pumping |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:10:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:if you can't run away or kill the RE user in the time it takes for them to throw it down and back away you deserve to die But a lot of suits CANT run away... in fact where the remote is thrown on the screen and where it ends up are usually two different things, so you have no point of reference to run from. and they can activate the remote after death, effectively suicide ganking with a 100% success rate. IN YOUR FACE CONCORD!!!!!
lol, I had to
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IVIaster LUKE
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:28:00 -
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RE users are better lovers.
"If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle" !
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Sleepy Shadow
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93
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:30:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen.
Oh right, yes, sorry my bad but I still don't think you should be able to detonate them after you're down.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:35:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen. Oh right, yes, sorry my bad but I still don't think you should be able to detonate them after you're down. Sleepy
R1 to toss L1 to detonate <--works while alive or "bleeding out"
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IVIaster LUKE
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:36:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem.
Double tap that body from a safe distance.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
1939
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:44:00 -
[83] - Quote
Jastad wrote:Monkey MAC wrote: Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that. This is a different matter, We are talking about hitscan weapon and server-latency in here. TOTALLY different matter from trig an equip while in bleed mode.
No guns ACTUALLY fire for a momemt after death, just like you keep reloading when you are downed, if you hold the trigger as you die you let off a short burst. sever-latency requires the shots firkng before death.
;) So yes, it is a fair functionit's already in there.
Tanks 514
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
383
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:48:00 -
[84] - Quote
The more you cry the more I spam RE's
Neighborhood Bully prof 5
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
326
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:52:00 -
[85] - Quote
Devs really have to almost be proud of community's resourcefulness, any imblances they leave in gameplay are pounched upon.
That said, Splash/High Dmg have historically led to disaster in this game See flaylock, forge, core locus and MD)
Especially when remotes have more explosive radius and twice the damage of land mines. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
1803
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:54:00 -
[86] - Quote
example of an fps if people like the OP had their way
no hav's, no lav's, no drop ships, no mass drivers, no uplinks, no re's, no supply depots, no high gound, no forge guns, no av, no rail guns, no scrambler rifles, no mass drivers, no heavy suits, no scouts, no logis, no skirmish, no domination, no nova knives, no plasma cannon, no snipers, no proto or advanced gear, etc
in short everyone would use one suit, and the standard assault rifle, in ambush mode only, wow balance is achieved -.-
**** people learn that variety isn't bad and your suits will die =/ |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
224
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:58:00 -
[87] - Quote
calisk galern wrote:example of an fps if people like the OP had their way
no hav's, no lav's, no drop ships, no mass drivers, no uplinks, no re's, no supply depots, no high gound, no forge guns, no av, no rail guns, no scrambler rifles, no mass drivers, no heavy suits, no scouts, no logis, no skirmish, no domination, no nova knives, no plasma cannon, no snipers, no proto or advanced gear, etc
in short everyone would use one suit, and the standard assault rifle, in ambush mode only, wow balance is achieved -.-
**** people learn that variety isn't bad and your suits will die =/
CoD?
"...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
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DustMercsBlog
Galactic News Network
127
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:01:00 -
[88] - Quote
While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? |
MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
504
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:03:00 -
[89] - Quote
calisk galern wrote: in short everyone would use one suit, and the standard assault rifle, in ambush mode only, wow balance is achieved -.-
CCP the other team got to the high ground before us and now its hard to aim at them make maps flat featureless planes CCP the other guy was able to shoot me first invent FTL communication so there's no lag CCP everyone kills eachother at exactly the same time and every match ends in a draw because everything is in perfect balance please balance the balance |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
1804
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:03:00 -
[90] - Quote
DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light?
if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it,
if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1574
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:09:00 -
[91] - Quote
calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. So, I have a question.
Where is it confirmed to be a glitch? Source?
AFAIK, this is working as intended, if I am not mistaken this is how it has always been. I know it has been this way as long as I have been using REs and I've been using them for the majority of "release".
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
81
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:27:00 -
[92] - Quote
REs are awesome, leave them alone. In fact we need more variations on the idea. Specifically I'm talking about LASER TRIP MINES! When are we going to get these? C'mon, you all know what I'm talking about.
Think of all the neglected hall ways in Dust.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
189
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:57:00 -
[93] - Quote
DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light?
REs are hardly on the same level that murder taxis were...
I mean I've not been caught out by a 'dynamic' RE (dead man trigger or otherwise) since I've started using them myself (in fact, if it wasn't for other people professing their RE love I'd be tempted to assume I personally am the reason this thread exists).
Some people might argue that I can get out of the way in time because I'm a scout, and heavies don't have that ability. I'd say mobility is a scouts advantage and a heavies disadvantage - it's relatively high risk high reward to actually do, and requires a terrain advantage.
I wouldn't complain if an RR/ScR killed me out in the open from 70m out - and I'd say that takes less skill, effort, preparation and risk taking than me REing a heavy. Which is why of course you are far more likely to see those in a kill feed than an RE.
I've seen plenty of skilled players learn to avoid them after they realise im using them in which case I use the threat of them to slow the enemy down and expend grenades .
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
223
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:14:00 -
[94] - Quote
Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much.
I love hating them because frankly they earned it. Pulling it off isn't that easy and using things in inconventional ways is one of the best things about this game.
Because, that's why.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1576
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:32:00 -
[95] - Quote
Just played a few matches.
So much fun, I don't understand why reddots run, I don't have a gun in my hands, it is a......... box of valentines chocolates.
I just want a hug.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
495
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:44:00 -
[96] - Quote
Sorry but you're wrong. Let's make up some (not really) fake numbers to see this.
I, italian player with ****** line, Use an Hit scan weapon on you, American Player with Good line.
so X(me) see Y (you) : X------>Shot reach CCPbattle server---------> Y
The travel time of the data is (example) is 1,8 sec.
Y------->Shot reach CCP battle server--------> X
Travel time is 1,5.
So you kill me first, but my "DMG" is traveling to you from battle server, and you die a spit second after i'm dead.
There is no "death shot" with the forge Gun, that isn't an hitscan weapon
So please, don't make strange excuse to defend a BUG, you start to sound like a little Spk4r.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
495
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:50:00 -
[97] - Quote
IVIaster LUKE wrote:Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. Double tap that body from a safe distance.
Yeah, you're right, i forgot that i have a heavy weapon that can kill up to 60m and is the terr..... Oh wait...i Can't
i repeat, no problems with RE and RE-traps. If you do a RE trap and kill people with it, you DESERVE that kill. Even if you run inside a group of people, drop a remote in the middle and make it blow up, you deserve those kills.
BUT if you DIE, is stupid that you can still trig the explo before respw: No weapons or equip work in that way, except the remote.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
89
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:53:00 -
[98] - Quote
You actually expect someone in a light suit with less than a quarter of your max health to just trade fire with you? lol...most of what I see now are teams of heavies with light weapons trying to rush into a single point, of course they are gonna RE you. They would be at a huge disadvantage to try to fight you head on with just gunfire when you are stacking that much health.
Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1395
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:16:00 -
[99] - Quote
Sleepy Shadow wrote:OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You have always been able to unless your totally dead, so shoot the face or blow them up, it's not a bug, working as intended
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1395
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:24:00 -
[100] - Quote
calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always.
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:38:00 -
[101] - Quote
OZAROW wrote:calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always. This is what I was thinking, I mean, if it was a glitch, you'd think they'd have fixed it sometime in the past year.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
212
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:47:00 -
[102] - Quote
Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much.
How about you give up using light weapons and well consider it
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
259
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:52:00 -
[103] - Quote
They need an 'Arming Time', maybe 5 seconds after being dropped they will arm themselves and can then be detonated. |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3125
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:53:00 -
[104] - Quote
Thank you op for reminding me how much more fun it is to troll infantry than it is to counter tank spam
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3125
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:54:00 -
[105] - Quote
Akdhar Saif wrote:They need an 'Arming Time', maybe 5 seconds after being dropped they will arm themselves and can then be detonated. There is already an arming time it's the only reason to get proto re
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
294
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:58:00 -
[106] - Quote
Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout.
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
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Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
31
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Posted - 2014.02.12 23:05:00 -
[107] - Quote
Hey Takron, if you can show me a screen shot of me using light weapons w a heavy suit I'll give you 50mil ISK. No, 100mil. Until then...go back to being a scrub. Carry on. |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3126
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Posted - 2014.02.12 23:24:00 -
[108] - Quote
Ivy Zalinto wrote:Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout. Totally an hmg kills a scout faster than any other automatic weapon and yet op cries about Ttk...irony
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
416
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:11:00 -
[109] - Quote
Ivy Zalinto wrote:Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout. Haha, it's definitely an incentive for me to get my rounds on target when I see the little present clutched in their hands sprinting and bunny hopping towards me. The HMG does melt scouts, but at times the way they move I know I'm fecked before I've even started firing. Still though, the amount of times that they have gotten me in comparison to the amount I've turned them into a red mist is small so I'm happy |
Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
932
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:28:00 -
[110] - Quote
Me, I prefer to bait heavies. a couple shots to ping at their shields, and then when they come into the room with their little HMG all revved up and ready to make some fresh scout mince, they figure out they're standing on a remote explosive.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
688
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:28:00 -
[111] - Quote
Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
932
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:33:00 -
[112] - Quote
Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus
not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
495
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:55:00 -
[113] - Quote
Heathen Bastard wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite.
That you can't do with anything else in the game and grant you a 100% kill
sound balanced to me!!!
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1585
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:20:00 -
[114] - Quote
Ivy Zalinto wrote:Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout. Scouts don't get to have all of the fun, we logis like to indulge as well.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
206
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:24:00 -
[115] - Quote
Jastad wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite. That you can't do with anything else in the game and grant you a 100% kill sound balanced to me!!!
Okay fair enough. OP isn't QQing about throwing REs on the fly (the title doesn't really help in clarifying OPs stance...). I get the bleed out detonation could be contentious, but just two points I'd make.
1. Arguing the fact it is the only equip that can be used during bleed out doesn't amount to much. Being able to use needles without having to equip them is unique to needles - it's doesn't make them unfair mechanics or whatever, it is just part of the use of the item.
2. It is not a 100% kill - if you are in a scout got you in a situation where even upon their death you had absolutely no time to evade the RE blast - the scout simply won that encounter at the cost of their own lives.
REs still require more preparation at such short operating distance than any other weapon in the game (I think), being able to detonate while bleeding out is kind of a compensation for that - I mean it's an advantage that activates only when you are dying - the very thing people are complaining is happening to them.
I'd call it a fairly balanced (since it takes particular skill to do considering the counters/vulnerability of the bomber) gameplay style - high risk/high reward. Like Shotgunning on crack.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
933
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:45:00 -
[116] - Quote
Best part about doing it so often is you can actually tell your team mates exactly when it's happening so they can GTFO, it works pretty well.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
8
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:02:00 -
[117] - Quote
Isn't the whole premise of this game that whilst the body may die the brain lives on.
Sure your trigger figure might be destroyed but the mind is active so with a thought click boom goes the remotes.
Given the lore the glitch is not that you can detonate REs whilst bleeding out, the glitch is you can't detonate them from the spawn/warp in screen. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1585
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:05:00 -
[118] - Quote
Venerable Phage wrote:Isn't the whole premise of this game that whilst the body may die the brain lives on.
Sure your trigger figure might be destroyed but the mind is active so with a thought click boom goes the remotes.
Given the lore the glitch is not that you can detonate REs whilst bleeding out, the glitch is you can't detonate them from the spawn/warp in screen. Yes, please fix this glitch CCP.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
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Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3129
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:41:00 -
[119] - Quote
Personally I think the "glitch" isn't really a glitch. You can only pull it off when you are bleeding out which means that you're still conscious in that suit, you can be revived so you must at least have some motor function to push a button. You can't be revived from paralysis and just thrown into battle.
So I deem anyone bleeding out still a threat, because they have enough power in them still to get back up and detonate a bomb while they're laying there dying. Adopt that philosophy and really the glitch does not seem unfair. But that is a slight bias coming from an RE user
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
267
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:45:00 -
[120] - Quote
fattie here. re's are great if someone catchs me out with them then i deserved to die. |
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
8
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:56:00 -
[121] - Quote
I'd love to be able to stick REs to another suit or my own :D |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
36
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Posted - 2014.02.13 06:53:00 -
[122] - Quote
Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much.
I'm pretty sure the killing after you are knocked out is not working as intended, so hopefully CCP will fix that. If they did REs wouldn't be so common as the main reason for the spam is because they can almost guarantee a kill even if you are killed trying to throw them. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1628
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:01:00 -
[123] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:OZAROW wrote:calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always. This is what I was thinking, I mean, if it was a glitch, you'd think they'd have fixed it sometime in the past year.
Really. How long have you played this game for again?
Railguns and forge guns have been plagued with bugs since forever. The same bugs. Since always. I would make a strong argument that more of the community uses those weapons than the RE (especially now with HAVs in their current state and the railgun being a bit OP)
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1397
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:56:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen. Ya when your bleeding out not when ur looking on the map to spawn in
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OZAROW
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Posted - 2014.02.13 09:07:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much. I'm pretty sure the killing after you are knocked out is not working as intended, so hopefully CCP will fix that. If they did REs wouldn't be so common as the main reason for the spam is because they can almost guarantee a kill even if you are killed trying to throw them. Look moron it's not a glitch it's been that way since beta, so since your new here don't come here crying about some thing in the game that you FINALLY FOUND OUT HAPPENS!
This is scout vrs heavy tactic 101 an no matter how much you b!tch about it, It hasn't killed you as much as everything else in the game so if you baracade yourself in a small room with a LOGI an TONS OF EQUIPMENT SPAM , I ll be the first guy threw the door with two flux nades an some remotes, so I suggest you KILL ME FULLY AN FLUX THE ROOM!
This is the equality counter to your spider rep tools, rep hives an 40 uplinks= DEAL WITH IT, IT'S NEVER BEEN ANY DIFFERENT CUZ IT'S NOT A FRIGGEN GLITCH!
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OZAROW
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Posted - 2014.02.13 09:37:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:OZAROW wrote:calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always. This is what I was thinking, I mean, if it was a glitch, you'd think they'd have fixed it sometime in the past year. I've been doing this move since beta for over a year now, and have totally made it my play style, I'm known for it an I'm flat out nasty with remotes, I've gotten over 40 kills in matches without even using a gun! I killed 9 people at once an it looked like a orbital, it's called "DEMOLITIONS EXPERT" many try to copy but few master it, it's basically a scout birth rite that you learn how to kill fatties with knives an remotes, an lets face it if you let a scout get close enough to throw it at you, THAT MEANS YOU FKD UP!
Means ur team screwed up, ur squad screwed up an you screwed up!
So since you now all kno that it's always been that way( originally I assume to kill a hacker after he shoots you), but has now evolved, you can only dead press if your bleeding out and remotes are equipped!
So just like knives, even if you kill the guy it's still means your game is weak by letting him get that close, so all the OP and anyone that has agreed with him has done here is,.........
PUBLICLY ADMIT YOUR AWARENESS SUCKS AND YOUR GAMEPLAY IS WEAK!
Good players don't let you get close enough, and they shoot them when you drop them and kill you with it,or kill you by shooting it in your hands, it takes along time to get good at it, and if you pay attention more you ll realize that you won't die from it as much
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Alternate Insano
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Posted - 2014.02.13 13:00:00 -
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Ozarow, the only weak thing here is your mind. Shall we all bow to you because you exploit a game glitch to the point that it's the only move you use? I bet you boost on COD, you seem that cheesy. |
Alaika Arbosa
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Posted - 2014.02.13 13:03:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:OZAROW wrote:calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always. This is what I was thinking, I mean, if it was a glitch, you'd think they'd have fixed it sometime in the past year. Really. How long have you played this game for again? Railguns and forge guns have been plagued with bugs since forever. The same bugs. Since always. I would make a strong argument that more of the community uses those weapons than the RE (especially now with HAVs in their current state and the railgun being a bit OP) Oh, not long, just since early 2012.
As far as Rails and Forges are concerned, while I may use them occasionally, I am more of a tourist than anything where they are both concerned.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:12:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Ozarow, the only weak thing here is your mind. Shall we all bow to you because you exploit a game glitch to the point that it's the only move you use? I bet you boost on COD, you seem that cheesy.
It is not an almost invulnerable tactic such as heavy redline thale snipers.
It normally requires one to trade ones life for a possible kill.
I have snuck up and dropped remotes between a heavy and his logi and killed them both and lived.
I generally don't get an opportunity to use the bleed out screen to detonate REs. But I don't see it as an exploit at all. Your clone mind never dies and can with a thought click detonate their REs |
Oxskull Duncarino
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:29:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:Alternate Insano wrote:Ozarow, the only weak thing here is your mind. Shall we all bow to you because you exploit a game glitch to the point that it's the only move you use? I bet you boost on COD, you seem that cheesy. It is not an almost invulnerable tactic such as heavy redline thale snipers. It normally requires one to trade ones life for a possible kill. I have snuck up and dropped remotes between a heavy and his logi and killed them both and lived. I generally don't get an opportunity to use the bleed out screen to detonate REs. But I don't see it as an exploit at all. Your clone mind never dies and can with a thought click detonate their REs The remotes aren't detonated by mind, they detonated by pressing the detonator on the clones left forearm. Therefore other actions in bleedout should be possible if the RE detonation is allowed. Or remove that option and therefore other possibilities. Good users of REs won't miss it as it's not a big tactic of theirs. Scrubs will miss it but who cares. |
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