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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:34:00 -
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The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead.
So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 01:47:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Jastad wrote:The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead.
So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death.
and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down.
You know that is IMPOSSIBILE to kill them BEFORE they press the button. If you're lucky you get and headshot and then, work done.
To kill the body you have to hit it, and to hit on ground you have to move you sight and shoot. Don't matter how fast you are, still slower than press a single button. 
Why don't we add this feature to all weapon, so while we are in bleed mode you can still fire your weapon...
Do it sound OP to you like it's for me?
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:10:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote: CUT
Sorry but it's not being outplayed. I'm not talking about traps and RE in general. i'm talking about people tossing explosive when they know that they don't have a chance to win the engage in CQC
Toss the explosive, and if the animation start the enemy is 100% death. Sometimes i use my remote tankiller for clear an area from camped pprotostomper?
I outplayed them? no i simply run straight my BPO with 2 kin cat ( faster than the frame rate!!!! ) in their face, toss the explosive collect my WP reward. They kill me? No problem.
Explosive in CQC? trying to hit a flying rag doll animation so he can't pull the trigger? CMON, let's be serious.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 11:25:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: I lack reading understanding.
If you care to READ, and not just imagine what i wrote, you see that I use that tactic to kill CAMPED protostompers.
But the problem of proto or not. We have a weapon that grant a sure kill AFTER YOU'RE DEAD.
I don't mind being killed by a remote trap, You deserve that kill. Like a shotgun kill or a Forge kill.
What i can't take is people tossing a remote when they understand that they lose the engage and give them a sure kill AFTER death.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:29:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it".
I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill.
My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:30:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote: Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that.
This is a different matter, We are talking about hitscan weapon and server-latency in here.
TOTALLY different matter from trig an equip while in bleed mode.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:40:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. But that is half the fun. I mean, seriously, how hard is it to shoot their body as you're backing up? Never not bleed your enemies out.
I know it's fun, i use a BPO fit and remote to kill protobear camping CRU. But the fact that i like it don't make it balanced.
I ALWAYS kill the body, i don't like that an hidden logi pull up a Protobear on my back.
But don't matter 'cause to shoot the body you have to move your aim and shot. Don't matter how fast you can be, still slower then pressing a button.
Thats the only problem right now. Remove the after death trig ability and only true Demolition expert will remain.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:44:00 -
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Sorry but you're wrong.
Let's make up some (not really) fake numbers to see this.
I, italian player with ****** line, Use an Hit scan weapon on you, American Player with Good line.
so X(me) see Y (you) :
X------>Shot reach CCPbattle server---------> Y
The travel time of the data is (example) is 1,8 sec.
Y------->Shot reach CCP battle server--------> X
Travel time is 1,5.
So you kill me first, but my "DMG" is traveling to you from battle server, and you die a spit second after i'm dead.
There is no "death shot" with the forge Gun, that isn't an hitscan weapon
So please, don't make strange excuse to defend a BUG, you start to sound like a little Spk4r.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:50:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. Double tap that body from a safe distance. 
Yeah, you're right, i forgot that i have a heavy weapon that can kill up to 60m and is the terr..... Oh wait...i Can't
i repeat, no problems with RE and RE-traps. If you do a RE trap and kill people with it, you DESERVE that kill. Even if you run inside a group of people, drop a remote in the middle and make it blow up, you deserve those kills.
BUT if you DIE, is stupid that you can still trig the explo before respw: No weapons or equip work in that way, except the remote.
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Jastad
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:55:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite.
That you can't do with anything else in the game and grant you a 100% kill
sound balanced to me!!!
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