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OZAROW 0uter.Heaven 1392	Posted - 2014.02.12 11:40:00 - [61] - Quote shaman oga wrote: It would be cool if you could make RE explode by shooting at them while they have them in their hands. Imagine the rage, you equip RE> a casual shot of a MLT AR land on it> Boom. Btw, RE must be placed, not throwed, CCP need to delete the deploy time, in this way you will be able to place your RE instantly, activation is still delayed depending on the variant. The fact you can detonate them while downed is a BUG, otherwise they have not to count death till your actually dead (clone eliminated, not bleeding) but bleeding status count as a death, so you should not be able to detonate RE. You can SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
OZAROW 0uter.Heaven 1392	Posted - 2014.02.12 11:46:00 - [62] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 93	Posted - 2014.02.12 11:57:00 - [63] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â. ... -¦ ß¦íß¦Ç-ò -òß¦äß¦Ç+¦+¦ß¦çß¦à ß¦Å+¦ß¦äß¦ç... -òß¦¢-¦-ƒ-ƒ -ôß¦çß¦ç-ƒ ß¦Ç -ƒ-¦ß¦¢ß¦¢-ƒß¦ç ß¦á-¦ß¦Å-ƒß¦Çß¦¢ß¦çß¦à
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1930	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:01:00 - [64] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Decrease the throw range I've also seen someone slide one across the floor......might've been lagging or something but it looked like the remote hit the ground but slid another couple meters and blew up taking a couple of blueberries I would love to see a slide function on my remotes. OP, please grow up, it's a weapon that kills stuff, its gonna be used to kill people wether you believe fairly or not. The device has to be ARMED after sticking, so if you aren't killing the guy BEFORE he has time to, press the button that's poor on your part. It's what you get for chasing that easy kil you thought you had. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1930	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:03:00 - [65] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: OZAROW wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1930	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:09:00 - [66] - Quote Jastad wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Jastad wrote: The main problem is that people can make it explode when they're dead. So in CQC if they manage to throw it ( and it's not impossibile) you're 100% death. and someone was thinking core locus were bad. I have a solution for that problem: kill them, don't just put them down. You know that is IMPOSSIBILE to kill them BEFORE they press the button. If you're lucky you get and headshot and then, work done. To kill the body you have to hit it, and to hit on ground you have to move you sight and shoot. Don't matter how fast you are, still slower than press a single button. Why don't we add this feature to all weapon, so while we are in bleed mode you can still fire your weapon... Do it sound OP to you like it's for me? Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1570	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:16:00 - [67] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: the throw range is like 1.5 meters, they literally drop down in front of your feet and they have an activation delay. you can even shoot the RE while thrown in air and make them explode. how hard can it be to move backwards and shoot at the same time? maybe stop rushing right in front of their face or are you scrubs that are too dense to adapt to the situation? lol, if you're only tossing them 1.5m, you're doing it wrong. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1570	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:20:00 - [68] - Quote Jastad wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: I lack reading understanding. If you care to READ, and not just imagine what i wrote, you see that I use that tactic to kill CAMPED protostompers. But the problem of proto or not. We have a weapon that grant a sure kill AFTER YOU'RE DEAD. I don't mind being killed by a remote trap, You deserve that kill. Like a shotgun kill or a Forge kill. What i can't take is people tossing a remote when they understand that they lose the engage and give them a sure kill AFTER death. When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 495	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:29:00 - [69] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 495	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:30:00 - [70] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that. This is a different matter, We are talking about hitscan weapon and server-latency in here. TOTALLY different matter from trig an equip while in bleed mode. Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1570	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:31:00 - [71] - Quote Shyeer Alvarin wrote: I dunno... I'm giggling about my Jihad Jeeps that have remotes on the front, back, and both sides. Drive up to a squad, wait for them to get close, get out. hit the detonator. Watch the kills come in. Take my jeep back and drive away. Needless to say it was -extremely- hilarious. For every ingenious trap, there's always at least one idiot that will ruin it. The best traps often rely on the stupidity of your opponent. Last night, I was running around nearly using REs to the exclusion of all other weapons (as a direct result of reading this thread). I got this one douchebag in my squad that kept running his mouth about how he was the greatest heavy ever and how he knew AV better than anyone else. He was a "tank-killer" par excellence, at least that is what he kept saying, who wasn't using "any fake money son, that's a real money forge son, AUR forge son". He got under my skin something fierce, mainly because he kept ruining my traps. I didn't mind him running his mouth so much as the ruining my traps. He would chase the enemies away (dying in the process and not killing any either) when I had corners trapped and he killed the red LAV I trapped ("I ain't going to have points in from of me and not take it son"). At the end of the match I would've expected him to have more than 370 WP at 13th on our teams aftermatch stats. Even with him ruining as many of my traps as he did, I still managed to be first. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1570	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:33:00 - [72] - Quote Jastad wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. But that is half the fun. I mean, seriously, how hard is it to shoot their body as you're backing up? Never not bleed your enemies out. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 495	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:40:00 - [73] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Jastad wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. But that is half the fun. I mean, seriously, how hard is it to shoot their body as you're backing up? Never not bleed your enemies out. I know it's fun, i use a BPO fit and remote to kill protobear camping CRU. But the fact that i like it don't make it balanced. I ALWAYS kill the body, i don't like that an hidden logi pull up a Protobear on my back. But don't matter 'cause to shoot the body you have to move your aim and shot. Don't matter how fast you can be, still slower then pressing a button. Thats the only problem right now. Remove the after death trig ability and only true Demolition expert will remain. Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1570	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:42:00 - [74] - Quote IDK, I still like the whole "Dead Man's Stick" concept Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2935	Posted - 2014.02.12 12:49:00 - [75] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: if you can't run away or kill the RE user in the time it takes for them to throw it down and back away you deserve to die But a lot of suits CANT run away... in fact where the remote is thrown on the screen and where it ends up are usually two different things, so you have no point of reference to run from. and they can activate the remote after death, effectively suicide ganking with a 100% success rate.
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 415	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:14:00 - [76] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Super soldier clones with suits that increase strength. Can't throw 5-10 lbs devise more than 5 feet Really, you're going to try to bring up real life physics for a game that you've been playing for so long that has never attempted to base itself on said physics. Lol, try again RL physics are used to inspire some mechanics in Dust, but game mechanics that give fun, balanced gameplay within the constraints of both the developers and the PS3's abilities have been trumping real life physics and should continue to do so. Fire of Prometheus wrote: Honestly, if you're a heavy and you get killed by a RE, that's your fault for not watching your step. As for tanks, don't go FOTM and you won't have to deal with my exploding jeeps. I'm going to presume that you're trolling Fire! Otherwise you've really lost concept of playing as a full heavy moving at a crawl against an enemy high speed light or medium suit throwing/placing remotes. I do watch my step, and I do spot most remotes, but the truth of the matter is that we can't do much about them in our ideal battle range of corridors, corners, buildings, etc. What, should we just sit in the corner not moving due to fear of the remote explosive buggyman getting us It doesn't take massive skill to set up a heavy with remotes, and your claim that it's the heavy's fault is absolute bull. I accept that remotes are one of my big weak spots, but don't go pretending we can do alot about them The Commando suit has that bit of better mobility that helps, a suit that you're used to, so keep your comments to that, and leave main heavies out if you don't have a clue. I'm on the fence as to throwing range. As to whether CCP have tweaked the throw distance recently I don't know for sure, but I'm getting flashbacks of remotes being thrown like frisbees that we had 16+months ago. They're not as bad, and I do occasionally get a bit of a laugh when I see one flying around the corner knowing I'm dead as I try to waddle backwards. Mostly I've a silent rage, but I do that for most instant deaths, remotes or not. They're grand in my view at the moment, but might have to be tweaked once cloaks are fully implemented. As for remotes on jeeps, lol. If tankers agree to be only allowed to put one hardener on their vehicle so that CCP's windows of opportunity ideal can actually exist, then yeh, remotes should be stopped from being stuck to LAVs. Until then, suck it up and stick a small turret on your HAV and carry a gunner to watch your back. AND, learn to accept the occasional death from one, although I know that's beyond some of ye with the God complex ye have.
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 25	Posted - 2014.02.12 13:28:00 - [77] - Quote Alternate Insano wrote: Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it. If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much. As soon as I see a Heavy Using a Light Weapon I switch to my dampened RE Scout .. As soon as I see a group of players in Proto gear in a pubgame I switch to the same RE Scout Fit RE's allow newer players to bridge the SP and HP gap and TBH good players can avoid them, the people it really hurts are those reliant on scanners/High HP suits I absolutely hate using this but ... HTFU Get Good Using RE's effectively takes skill and often you have to sacrifice yourself to get the kill, if you don't worry about your KD/R and want to have fun you should try it .. it's a nice change and gets the adrenaline pumping
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1572	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:10:00 - [78] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: if you can't run away or kill the RE user in the time it takes for them to throw it down and back away you deserve to die But a lot of suits CANT run away... in fact where the remote is thrown on the screen and where it ends up are usually two different things, so you have no point of reference to run from. and they can activate the remote after death, effectively suicide ganking with a 100% success rate. IN YOUR FACE CONCORD!!!!! lol, I had to Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 352	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:28:00 - [79] - Quote RE users are better lovers. "If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle" !
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 93	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:30:00 - [80] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: OZAROW wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen. Oh right, yes, sorry my bad but I still don't think you should be able to detonate them after you're down. .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â. ... -¦ ß¦íß¦Ç-ò -òß¦äß¦Ç+¦+¦ß¦çß¦à ß¦Å+¦ß¦äß¦ç... -òß¦¢-¦-ƒ-ƒ -ôß¦çß¦ç-ƒ ß¦Ç -ƒ-¦ß¦¢ß¦¢-ƒß¦ç ß¦á-¦ß¦Å-ƒß¦Çß¦¢ß¦çß¦à

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1572	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:35:00 - [81] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: OZAROW wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You can detonate on the Death Screen, but not the choose spawn screen. Oh right, yes, sorry my bad but I still don't think you should be able to detonate them after you're down. Sleepy R1 to toss L1 to detonate <--works while alive or "bleeding out" Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 352	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:36:00 - [82] - Quote Jastad wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. Double tap that body from a safe distance. "If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle" ! LFC 1892
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1939	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:44:00 - [83] - Quote Jastad wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Rifles are known to continue firing for a short time after death in this game, have killed and been killed by it a number of times, dead mans grip and all that. This is a different matter, We are talking about hitscan weapon and server-latency in here. TOTALLY different matter from trig an equip while in bleed mode. No guns ACTUALLY fire for a momemt after death, just like you keep reloading when you are downed, if you hold the trigger as you die you let off a short burst. sever-latency requires the shots firkng before death. ;) So yes, it is a fair functionit's already in there. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 383	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:48:00 - [84] - Quote The more you cry the more I spam RE's Neighborhood Bully prof 5 "Gimme yo lunch money"
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 326	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:52:00 - [85] - Quote Devs really have to almost be proud of community's resourcefulness, any imblances they leave in gameplay are pounched upon. That said, Splash/High Dmg have historically led to disaster in this game See flaylock, forge, core locus and MD) Especially when remotes have more explosive radius and twice the damage of land mines.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1803	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:54:00 - [86] - Quote example of an fps if people like the OP had their way no hav's, no lav's, no drop ships, no mass drivers, no uplinks, no re's, no supply depots, no high gound, no forge guns, no av, no rail guns, no scrambler rifles, no mass drivers, no heavy suits, no scouts, no logis, no skirmish, no domination, no nova knives, no plasma cannon, no snipers, no proto or advanced gear, etc in short everyone would use one suit, and the standard assault rifle, in ambush mode only, wow balance is achieved -.- **** people learn that variety isn't bad and your suits will die =/
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 224	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:58:00 - [87] - Quote calisk galern wrote: example of an fps if people like the OP had their way no hav's, no lav's, no drop ships, no mass drivers, no uplinks, no re's, no supply depots, no high gound, no forge guns, no av, no rail guns, no scrambler rifles, no mass drivers, no heavy suits, no scouts, no logis, no skirmish, no domination, no nova knives, no plasma cannon, no snipers, no proto or advanced gear, etc in short everyone would use one suit, and the standard assault rifle, in ambush mode only, wow balance is achieved -.- **** people learn that variety isn't bad and your suits will die =/ CoD? "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
DustMercsBlog Galactic News Network 127	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:01:00 - [88] - Quote While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first. I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light?
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 504	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:03:00 - [89] - Quote calisk galern wrote: in short everyone would use one suit, and the standard assault rifle, in ambush mode only, wow balance is achieved -.- CCP the other team got to the high ground before us and now its hard to aim at them make maps flat featureless planes CCP the other guy was able to shoot me first invent FTL communication so there's no lag CCP everyone kills eachother at exactly the same time and every match ends in a draw because everything is in perfect balance please balance the balance
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1804	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:03:00 - [90] - Quote DustMercsBlog wrote: While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first. I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is.



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