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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1574
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:09:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. So, I have a question.
Where is it confirmed to be a glitch? Source?
AFAIK, this is working as intended, if I am not mistaken this is how it has always been. I know it has been this way as long as I have been using REs and I've been using them for the majority of "release".
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
81
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:27:00 -
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REs are awesome, leave them alone. In fact we need more variations on the idea. Specifically I'm talking about LASER TRIP MINES! When are we going to get these? C'mon, you all know what I'm talking about.
Think of all the neglected hall ways in Dust.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
189
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:57:00 -
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DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light?
REs are hardly on the same level that murder taxis were...
I mean I've not been caught out by a 'dynamic' RE (dead man trigger or otherwise) since I've started using them myself (in fact, if it wasn't for other people professing their RE love I'd be tempted to assume I personally am the reason this thread exists).
Some people might argue that I can get out of the way in time because I'm a scout, and heavies don't have that ability. I'd say mobility is a scouts advantage and a heavies disadvantage - it's relatively high risk high reward to actually do, and requires a terrain advantage.
I wouldn't complain if an RR/ScR killed me out in the open from 70m out - and I'd say that takes less skill, effort, preparation and risk taking than me REing a heavy. Which is why of course you are far more likely to see those in a kill feed than an RE.
I've seen plenty of skilled players learn to avoid them after they realise im using them in which case I use the threat of them to slow the enemy down and expend grenades .
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
223
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:14:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much.
I love hating them because frankly they earned it. Pulling it off isn't that easy and using things in inconventional ways is one of the best things about this game.
Because, that's why.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1576
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:32:00 -
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Just played a few matches.
So much fun, I don't understand why reddots run, I don't have a gun in my hands, it is a......... box of valentines chocolates.
I just want a hug.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
495
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:44:00 -
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Sorry but you're wrong. Let's make up some (not really) fake numbers to see this.
I, italian player with ****** line, Use an Hit scan weapon on you, American Player with Good line.
so X(me) see Y (you) : X------>Shot reach CCPbattle server---------> Y
The travel time of the data is (example) is 1,8 sec.
Y------->Shot reach CCP battle server--------> X
Travel time is 1,5.
So you kill me first, but my "DMG" is traveling to you from battle server, and you die a spit second after i'm dead.
There is no "death shot" with the forge Gun, that isn't an hitscan weapon
So please, don't make strange excuse to defend a BUG, you start to sound like a little Spk4r.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
495
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:50:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:Jastad wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: When you know you're going to respawn seconds later and you're confident that your dying will cost them more than it will you-- it is a totally valid tactic despite whether you think this is cheap or "you can't take it". I don't mind if they mange to pull the trigger BEFORE they're down,they deserve that kill. My only complain is that people CAN PULL the trigger AFTER THEIR DEATH, thats the problem. Double tap that body from a safe distance.
Yeah, you're right, i forgot that i have a heavy weapon that can kill up to 60m and is the terr..... Oh wait...i Can't
i repeat, no problems with RE and RE-traps. If you do a RE trap and kill people with it, you DESERVE that kill. Even if you run inside a group of people, drop a remote in the middle and make it blow up, you deserve those kills.
BUT if you DIE, is stupid that you can still trig the explo before respw: No weapons or equip work in that way, except the remote.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
89
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:53:00 -
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You actually expect someone in a light suit with less than a quarter of your max health to just trade fire with you? lol...most of what I see now are teams of heavies with light weapons trying to rush into a single point, of course they are gonna RE you. They would be at a huge disadvantage to try to fight you head on with just gunfire when you are stacking that much health.
Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1395
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:16:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:OZAROW wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I love REGÇÖs they are so much fun BUT I donGÇÖt think you should be able to detonate them on the spawn screen. If youGÇÖre downed, you should not be able to press any buttons (you cannot call OBGÇÖs, vehicles and so on). If we were able to move our hands while downed, then I would want the ability to self-inject myself with needles. You can't , you have to respawn, a lot of the time I suicide into a packed room with 3, if I die I spawn on the fastest link an hit the button, if the team can't flux in ten sec that's their problem You most certainly can, happens a lot. Again, I donGÇÖt know which button to press, but it is possible. You have always been able to unless your totally dead, so shoot the face or blow them up, it's not a bug, working as intended
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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OZAROW
0uter.Heaven
1395
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:24:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always.
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1582
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:38:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:calisk galern wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:While the enemy is supposed to employ tactics that make war extremely unenjoyable for you, you always want to put high level hardcore gameplay first.
I laugh at the community's ingenuity too, but similar to murder taxis...is this the type of gamplay we want new players and especially gaming media to see? Its funny/amusing but does it paint the game in a positive light? if we are discussing the post death glitch then no, fix it, if you are talking about RE's killing you in any other form or use of them. then yes it's fine as is. It's NOT A GLITCH! You have to actually kill the guy, head shot or grenade or shoot while he's down, or pay attention or carry flux nades, been this way always. This is what I was thinking, I mean, if it was a glitch, you'd think they'd have fixed it sometime in the past year.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
212
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:47:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Pretty sick of seeing it, and seeing it, and seeing it.
If I could have my way, and over everything else I hate in this game, I would remove RE completely. There would be no more jihad jeeps or dicks who seem to take no dmg while ko'ing your heavy with his ***** little RE grenade. I would actually be willing to pay other players to greif RE users, I actually dislike them that much.
How about you give up using light weapons and well consider it
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
259
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:52:00 -
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They need an 'Arming Time', maybe 5 seconds after being dropped they will arm themselves and can then be detonated. |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3125
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:53:00 -
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Thank you op for reminding me how much more fun it is to troll infantry than it is to counter tank spam
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3125
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:54:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:They need an 'Arming Time', maybe 5 seconds after being dropped they will arm themselves and can then be detonated. There is already an arming time it's the only reason to get proto re
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
294
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:58:00 -
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Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout.
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
31
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Posted - 2014.02.12 23:05:00 -
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Hey Takron, if you can show me a screen shot of me using light weapons w a heavy suit I'll give you 50mil ISK. No, 100mil. Until then...go back to being a scrub. Carry on. |
Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3126
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Posted - 2014.02.12 23:24:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout. Totally an hmg kills a scout faster than any other automatic weapon and yet op cries about Ttk...irony
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
416
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:11:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout. Haha, it's definitely an incentive for me to get my rounds on target when I see the little present clutched in their hands sprinting and bunny hopping towards me. The HMG does melt scouts, but at times the way they move I know I'm fecked before I've even started firing. Still though, the amount of times that they have gotten me in comparison to the amount I've turned them into a red mist is small so I'm happy |
Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
932
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:28:00 -
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Me, I prefer to bait heavies. a couple shots to ping at their shields, and then when they come into the room with their little HMG all revved up and ready to make some fresh scout mince, they figure out they're standing on a remote explosive.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
688
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:28:00 -
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Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
932
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:33:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus
not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
495
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:55:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite.
That you can't do with anything else in the game and grant you a 100% kill
sound balanced to me!!!
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1585
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:20:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:Honestly...deal with it. I bait people into them, drop them from above, sprint through a room and throw them right at heavies...its an equalizer for your huge rate of fire with those hmg's to my scouts tiny hp...boom, goodbye heavy, better luck next time. Re's are one of the few blessings we have as a scout. Scouts don't get to have all of the fun, we logis like to indulge as well.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
206
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:24:00 -
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Jastad wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Now that the OP has clarified his post, I agree. I just started getting into scout suits and REs, they are terribly fun and a great way to sneakily get kills, but I didn't know you could activate them while lying dead...that is bogus not dead, dying. you can only set them off during the "failure imminent" stage of dying, not "clone terminated". So basically it's a last act of spite. That you can't do with anything else in the game and grant you a 100% kill sound balanced to me!!!
Okay fair enough. OP isn't QQing about throwing REs on the fly (the title doesn't really help in clarifying OPs stance...). I get the bleed out detonation could be contentious, but just two points I'd make.
1. Arguing the fact it is the only equip that can be used during bleed out doesn't amount to much. Being able to use needles without having to equip them is unique to needles - it's doesn't make them unfair mechanics or whatever, it is just part of the use of the item.
2. It is not a 100% kill - if you are in a scout got you in a situation where even upon their death you had absolutely no time to evade the RE blast - the scout simply won that encounter at the cost of their own lives.
REs still require more preparation at such short operating distance than any other weapon in the game (I think), being able to detonate while bleeding out is kind of a compensation for that - I mean it's an advantage that activates only when you are dying - the very thing people are complaining is happening to them.
I'd call it a fairly balanced (since it takes particular skill to do considering the counters/vulnerability of the bomber) gameplay style - high risk/high reward. Like Shotgunning on crack.
You probably don't know me. But next time you get gunned down or exploded by a Valor scout...check the name.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
933
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:45:00 -
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Best part about doing it so often is you can actually tell your team mates exactly when it's happening so they can GTFO, it works pretty well.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
8
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:02:00 -
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Isn't the whole premise of this game that whilst the body may die the brain lives on.
Sure your trigger figure might be destroyed but the mind is active so with a thought click boom goes the remotes.
Given the lore the glitch is not that you can detonate REs whilst bleeding out, the glitch is you can't detonate them from the spawn/warp in screen. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1585
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:05:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:Isn't the whole premise of this game that whilst the body may die the brain lives on.
Sure your trigger figure might be destroyed but the mind is active so with a thought click boom goes the remotes.
Given the lore the glitch is not that you can detonate REs whilst bleeding out, the glitch is you can't detonate them from the spawn/warp in screen. Yes, please fix this glitch CCP.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3129
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:41:00 -
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Personally I think the "glitch" isn't really a glitch. You can only pull it off when you are bleeding out which means that you're still conscious in that suit, you can be revived so you must at least have some motor function to push a button. You can't be revived from paralysis and just thrown into battle.
So I deem anyone bleeding out still a threat, because they have enough power in them still to get back up and detonate a bomb while they're laying there dying. Adopt that philosophy and really the glitch does not seem unfair. But that is a slight bias coming from an RE user
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
267
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:45:00 -
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fattie here. re's are great if someone catchs me out with them then i deserved to die. |
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