DUST Search - What are some ways that CCP can monetize this game?

Rynoceros wrote:

TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:

Rynoceros wrote:

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

Not everybody instantly buys a PS4. Really. Many people wait until it has a decent lineup consisting of mor than just 5 games and 3 exclusives. Besides that so far the PS4 doesn't look like it has anything unique to offer.

Far too man ypeople think that the PS3 is suddenly not worth it anymore just because a newer system is out. I really don't understand it. The PS3 hasn't changed a bit. It's games haven't changed a bit either. It's still a great console with a very good lineup. Something the PS4 can only dream of currently.

Most of the time I only hear from PS4 users that they aren't using it because of a lack of games and instead play PS3.

I haven't bought a PS4.
I'm broke and waiting for the trustworthy second gens to roll out.

But you just summed up the problem. People that are still here after Destiny is released on second gen PS4s, will remain because they aren't capable of funding the endeavor - or this one, either.

Tick, tock.

You assume that everyone here wants to play Destiny, and apparently want to play it exclusively.

Not quite everyone.
But enough. I assure you.
If this game can survive 2014's Q4 fiscals, it will be solely populated by fanbois and a few impoverished kids without mics.
History repeats itself, itself.

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Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1192	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:05:00 - [61] - Quote Sell more monocles. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1756	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:06:00 - [62] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Put out the game they told us they had; on PS4 (where the new money is). will be At the moment they'll probably make more money with the PS3 version. And that probably won'tchange for at least another year or two. Really? This is the first time that I have ever heard that. Ever. No, I'm not being sarcastic at all. OK, maybe just a little... By my calculations they have about 7 months to make it happen before 80% of the few remaining players move to higher ground. Good luck monetizing the game on an outdated system played primarily in third world countries. Really, good ****** luck. Not everybody instantly buys a PS4. Really. Many people wait until it has a decent lineup consisting of mor than just 5 games and 3 exclusives. Besides that so far the PS4 doesn't look like it has anything unique to offer. Far too man ypeople think that the PS3 is suddenly not worth it anymore just because a newer system is out. I really don't understand it. The PS3 hasn't changed a bit. It's games haven't changed a bit either. It's still a great console with a very good lineup. Something the PS4 can only dream of currently. Most of the time I only hear from PS4 users that they aren't using it because of a lack of games and instead play PS3. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4553	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:09:00 - [63] - Quote ^ Agreed Aikuchi Tomaru. People just buy into the hype of OMFG A NEW THING JUST CAME OUT I GOTS TO HAVE IT. Same reason people are sheep to apple products. PS3 is still good and probably won't start to show it's true age until much later. If it wasn't for Metal Gear I'd doubt I'd even get a PS4 this year.
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 3	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:18:00 - [64] - Quote delete it
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2368	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:18:00 - [65] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Not everybody instantly buys a PS4. Really. Many people wait until it has a decent lineup consisting of mor than just 5 games and 3 exclusives. Besides that so far the PS4 doesn't look like it has anything unique to offer. Far too man ypeople think that the PS3 is suddenly not worth it anymore just because a newer system is out. I really don't understand it. The PS3 hasn't changed a bit. It's games haven't changed a bit either. It's still a great console with a very good lineup. Something the PS4 can only dream of currently. Most of the time I only hear from PS4 users that they aren't using it because of a lack of games and instead play PS3. I haven't bought a PS4. I'm broke and waiting for the trustworthy second gens to roll out. But you just summed up the problem. People that are still here after Destiny is released on second gen PS4s, will remain because they aren't capable of funding the endeavor - or this one, either. Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
Jarlaxle JRXL Well Oiled Machines 3	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:25:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :) TRIANGLE, delete... "deleting..." 6GB of wasted space restored!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6600	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:42:00 - [67] - Quote I think the first obvious thing is dropsuit and weapon skin BPOs that you can place on your dropsuit or weapon. The dropsuit and weapons would still be consumable, but the skin would not. And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY" CPM Info and Q&A -Status: Open
Chuckles Brown 10	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:50:00 - [68] - Quote How about building a game that people willingly want to spend money on... instead of rushing out a half finished product and taking over a year to continue towards some form of finality. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5694	Posted - 2014.02.11 17:57:00 - [69] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Not everybody instantly buys a PS4. Really. Many people wait until it has a decent lineup consisting of mor than just 5 games and 3 exclusives. Besides that so far the PS4 doesn't look like it has anything unique to offer. Far too man ypeople think that the PS3 is suddenly not worth it anymore just because a newer system is out. I really don't understand it. The PS3 hasn't changed a bit. It's games haven't changed a bit either. It's still a great console with a very good lineup. Something the PS4 can only dream of currently. Most of the time I only hear from PS4 users that they aren't using it because of a lack of games and instead play PS3. I haven't bought a PS4. I'm broke and waiting for the trustworthy second gens to roll out. But you just summed up the problem. People that are still here after Destiny is released on second gen PS4s, will remain because they aren't capable of funding the endeavor - or this one, either. Tick, tock. You assume that everyone here wants to play Destiny, and apparently want to play it exclusively. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2370	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:06:00 - [70] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Not everybody instantly buys a PS4. Really. Many people wait until it has a decent lineup consisting of mor than just 5 games and 3 exclusives. Besides that so far the PS4 doesn't look like it has anything unique to offer. Far too man ypeople think that the PS3 is suddenly not worth it anymore just because a newer system is out. I really don't understand it. The PS3 hasn't changed a bit. It's games haven't changed a bit either. It's still a great console with a very good lineup. Something the PS4 can only dream of currently. Most of the time I only hear from PS4 users that they aren't using it because of a lack of games and instead play PS3. I haven't bought a PS4. I'm broke and waiting for the trustworthy second gens to roll out. But you just summed up the problem. People that are still here after Destiny is released on second gen PS4s, will remain because they aren't capable of funding the endeavor - or this one, either. Tick, tock. You assume that everyone here wants to play Destiny, and apparently want to play it exclusively. Not quite everyone. But enough. I assure you. If this game can survive 2014's Q4 fiscals, it will be solely populated by fanbois and a few impoverished kids without mics. History repeats itself, itself. Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.

Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 40	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:07:00 - [71] - Quote If you are looking at this post CCP, I believe an excellent way of making some money would be to offer SP for sale for newer players, up to a set maximum, then after that you would have to earn it. 500K while nice is not enough to compete with 40+ Million SP players, and I get that they have been playing forever and have earned it. However, this is about getting new players into the game and making money off of old ones. How many people would spend 10 bucks on 1 mil SP, up to say a cap of 5 mil? ThatGÇÖs only around 50 bucks; most adults would spend that on a free game because itGÇÖs the cost of a normal game so they could justify it. How many people would create an alt knowing they could get to 5 mil SP. That or you could lower the SP requirements of your skills or pay out more SP per match, or pay for a booster that would allow a secondary character to receive the full benefits of a passive SP like your primary. Heck, people are already creating secondary PSN accounts to have a toon sit and collect points then just switch out. Unfortunately, I have just hit 4.5 mil SP so this wouldn't help me much but if I was a new player you can bet your a$$ I would have bought it.
Nirwanda Vaughns 329	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:08:00 - [72] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Let me have passive SP on all 3 of my character slots. I'll pay a small fee. This is recently possible in EVE through the use of PLEX. I could support it in DUST. yup seeign as the char system pretty much works the same way i don't see why it wouldn't be a possibility in the near future. but seeing as the game is free just make up a diff psn accoutn and start a char on there. its what i did. i have 2 chars per race just building up passive SP between patches so i can test new features out before spending sp on here. also you can only have 16 accounts per playstation (that you can log into) but thats more than enough to just get a char each race to try things out with Proto and proud!!
TXSTORO Defenders of the Helghast Dream 14	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:09:00 - [73] - Quote Items, resources, sockets, gear, vehicles that are TRULY RARE and can change the tide of war. I'm not talking OP, I'm talking different defensive sockets for pc maps that corps can set up before the match. Maybe offensive vehicles with heavier armor/ shield protection to overcome such defenses for attacking corps. Let us buy the ability to call down 2 blaster turrets, a supply depot in areas of our choice. Give us a gear crate with RARE suites that have RARE slots/ Abilities and weapons that are limited. Ex: Heavy suite with light suit speed, Assault suite with heavy weapon, Logi suit with commando capabilities Each of these abilities would be available maybe once a month then they change the following month limit them but have a variety. This will make the corps think and strategize about which ones to invest in depending on the situation they believe they will be facing. Or invest in abilities that corps can reward their soldiers with. As far as getting Dust and Eve together, let corps invest in RARE orbital Ammunition, larger area of impact, ammo that can affect areas under cover, ammo specific for vehicles. Offer EVE pilots RARE items,resources, gear that is only available when a contracted corp or squad wins a specific battle or mission if we are looking at PvsE. Really its all supply and Demand CCP, ( You got way to much supply not enough Demand) Everyone wants to stand out, be different, have a slight edge, have something no one else has. AAAAND everyone also wants to TAKE that something away. Just look at what people will do to kill rare protos, thales, officer weapons, Aur tanks etc. We love to make those people pay for thinking they can have an edge and not loose it. We also LOVE to pay for the slight chance of HAVING the edge ourselves. Our countries make millions of selling off advanced weaponry to each other while concealing their own defenses against those very weapons. Do you have any idea how much you could make if you sold both defensive and offense? Think about it..and if you need anymore suggestions, give me a call I can work for a decent paycheck ;) P.S.-- CCP play your game, invest in it. Allow your creativity to develop from immersing in it. --Adapt or Die-- Jack of All Trades Apply to "Defenders of the Helghast Dream"
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5694	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:16:00 - [74] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Not everybody instantly buys a PS4. Really. Many people wait until it has a decent lineup consisting of mor than just 5 games and 3 exclusives. Besides that so far the PS4 doesn't look like it has anything unique to offer. Far too man ypeople think that the PS3 is suddenly not worth it anymore just because a newer system is out. I really don't understand it. The PS3 hasn't changed a bit. It's games haven't changed a bit either. It's still a great console with a very good lineup. Something the PS4 can only dream of currently. Most of the time I only hear from PS4 users that they aren't using it because of a lack of games and instead play PS3. I haven't bought a PS4. I'm broke and waiting for the trustworthy second gens to roll out. But you just summed up the problem. People that are still here after Destiny is released on second gen PS4s, will remain because they aren't capable of funding the endeavor - or this one, either. Tick, tock. You assume that everyone here wants to play Destiny, and apparently want to play it exclusively. Not quite everyone. But enough. I assure you. If this game can survive 2014's Q4 fiscals, it will be solely populated by fanbois and a few impoverished kids without mics. History repeats itself, itself. History does indeed repeat itself. This same conversation has happened several times in the past. Last Of Us is going to kill Dust. Planetside 2 is going to kill Dust. Battlefield 4 is going to kill Dust. CoD Ghosts is going to kill Dust. GTA V is going to kill Dust. PS4 is going to kill Dust. Yet here we are. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 499	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:19:00 - [75] - Quote If the price is right,Cosmetic stuff ,equal too bpo paint jobs attachable/detachable to suits and weapons ,makes the players happy and the art guys at CCP happy and busy. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6786	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:21:00 - [76] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :) Really? Finally getting the people you needed 18 months ago eh CCP? I'd happily pay an elite pack amount of coin to give DUST University a uniform. Something I've mentioned now at two Fanfest's. Comes to show how low of a priority CCP has towards microtransactions. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6786	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:22:00 - [77] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: If the price is right,Cosmetic stuff ,equal too bpo paint jobs attachable/detachable to suits and weapons ,makes the players happy and the art guys at CCP happy and busy. This. ^ Vanity items are a hot commodity. Also, $1,000 jeans. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6601	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:26:00 - [78] - Quote On the topic of moving to the PS4, let us all remember that the PS2 was very well alive long into the PS3's life cycle. And for the PS3, we can only expect that to be even longer. The gap from PS2 to PS3 had some pretty major defining evolutions, most notably the standardization of online multiplayer. What does the PS4 have that the PS3 can't mimic to some degree in terms of gameplay? PS4 is nice, but Dust doesn't need to make the move right away. And Aero said unto his children, "LET THERE BE A REGISTRY" CPM Info and Q&A -Status: Open
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES Legacy Rising 600	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:28:00 - [79] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :) I'm glad to hear you have hired new talent. However seriously you didn't need to spend the money on some office guy who will try to justify his salary. You have all the ideas you could ever need right here on the forums for FREE!! WE PAY U!
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 542	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:31:00 - [80] - Quote Nobody wants a consumer to tell them what they would purchase. Who wants some?

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2879	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:34:00 - [81] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :) YAY? Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of things I would gladly pay for in this game, but isn't it odd to see a post basically saying "Hey guys! We are thinking of new ways to make money off of you guys!" Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2464	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:36:00 - [82] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: I'd happily pay an elite pack amount of coin to give DUST University a uniform. Something I've mentioned now at two Fanfest's. Yeah, I would love to see the Black on Gold DUST University squads and the Blue for Immortal Guides. Would just need sections of each suit colour mapped to the three colours selected in the Corp logo, with a default dark grey if no colour is selected in one of the layers. There should be a customisation slot in the fittings, where you can select a Corp Colours display chit. Have the chits cost 10 AUR. Not much, but it will add up over time. If you run out of the chits it will not make your fitting invalid, it just will go back to the default colours for that suit. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1940	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:37:00 - [83] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :) cough...Salvage boosters...cough YEAH! BUT SALAVAGE GAME PLAY MODE FOR SUBSCRIBERS!! Paran Tadec wrote: Remove aur items and bpos. Irl cash should only be for cosmetics and boosts. HELL NO, Release a Heavy BPO Throwback event!! Wallet Opens wide up! Zirzo Valcyn wrote: cosmetic arum purchases. Alliance could buy a color pallet for Mercs. Then the Mercs can pay AUR to buy a Limited BPTC which stands for "Blue Print Timed Copy". It could be a modifier on there suites or something silly like that. Scrubs will whine but bpos are bad for the economy. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 452	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:50:00 - [84] - Quote I haven't read through this entire thread but I think that the way Aurum gear is distributed should be re-evaluated. I think, instead of a finite amount of gear that you buy, Aurum should work on a time based license system (like PLEX in EVE). I should be able to buy a specific aurum weapon or suit and have access to said item for X amount of time based on the amount I pay. The Aurum "licenses" (as I'll call them for the duration of this post) would have "Day" "Week" and "Month" variations that allow me to use said weapon an unlimited amount of times during the duration of the license period. From a psychological aspect I think it'd dull the pain of loss that comes with losing a specific piece of Aurum gear while encouraging those that otherwise wouldn't have bothered to give the method of play a shot. Like PLEX these licenses could also be bought and sold on the player market as well. Saga v. Methana Balance
Supra Advyn Nos Nothi 140	Posted - 2014.02.11 18:55:00 - [85] - Quote " What are some ways that CCP can monetize this game?" 1. respecs 2. weapons, officer grade, skill levels required. 3. suits, officer grade, skill levels required. A. weapon addons, change outs. Let us build out our own weapons. Example: Base AR, Buildable components? Barrel? Scope, red dot, iron sight? Stock? fore grip? (Sum of all parts equals to specific traits, etc.) (each part has it own cpu, pg cost, plus base) A merc can tailor a weapon to their needs, play style, etc. I understand in game rendering, lag, etc. would be terrible with individualized suits, weapons, etc. But in game can be generalized to some degree... I am just rambling on a second cup of Joe..... you should know by now....
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 94	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:00:00 - [86] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: This same conversation has happened several times in the past. Last Of Us is going to kill Dust. Planetside 2 is going to kill Dust. Battlefield 4 is going to kill Dust. CoD Ghosts is going to kill Dust. GTA V is going to kill Dust. PS4 is going to kill Dust. Yet here we are. With our unending proto stomping by a few corps and long wait times for FW. We arent dead but we are far from flourishing. I also have an issue with any game looking to pump out content for purchase when a year after launch we still dont have the full base of the product. Even if we get full racial parity of lights and heavies we still wont have Pilots, all base vehicles or racial weapons. Look how long players have asked for just a simple colour palette or a couple skins, we dont even have individual models for all suits or paint jobs for certain proto level suits. Weapons look practically the same through the whole progression. Enhancements? boosters and thats it. I hope if they are serious about this then its quality and hopefully developed by a separate team or outsourced so the content drip doesnt get any slower. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6788	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:01:00 - [87] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :) YAY? Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of things I would gladly pay for in this game, but isn't it odd to see a post basically saying "Hey guys! We are thinking of new ways to make money off of you guys!" So? I saw plenty of players here in the forums recommending CCP some ideas on how to make more money for better development. Why think twice about it now? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 24	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:02:00 - [88] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Put out the game they told us they had; on PS4 (where the new money is). There are still way more PS3s in the world then PS4s, so they are selling to the larger audience. That said, I believe they are preparing Dust 2.0 for the PS4... I think Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 273	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:08:00 - [89] - Quote TXSTORO wrote: Items, resources, sockets, gear, vehicles that are TRULY RARE and can change the tide of war. See, what you just described is literally pay-to-win. DUST currently is not (and should not become) pay-to-win, rather it is 'pay-to-have-early-access.' DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 96	Posted - 2014.02.11 19:23:00 - [90] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Put out the game they told us they had; on PS4 (where the new money is). There are still way more PS3s in the world then PS4s, so they are selling to the larger audience. That said, I believe they are preparing Dust 2.0 for the PS4... I think But that larger audience has way more content to take up their time while the other is going through a serious drought. And the PS4 install base surpasses how many users we probably have. That said - they can take their time because I wont get my PS4 to possibly this Fall and if certain games slip then that will move my purchase to 2015. "Shine bright like a diamond"



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