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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:07:00 -
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So I am sure all of you are shocked to hear this: CCP created this game in order to make money. They are a company and exist to make money. I was mortified to discover this too but I think if we all band together we can overcome this sudden revelation.
Anyhoo, currently there are only two ways to monetize the game and they both do the same thing. Boosters let you accumulate SP faster whether it be an Active or Passive Booster and AUR gear. AUR gear falls into three categories: Standard level gear with no SP requirement, Advanced level gear with a single level requirement, and Prototype gear which requires three levels in that skill. So "do more, faster" is the name of the game.
I am curious what are other ways CCP can sell services to the community without being insulting. UVT's were insulting; not being able to talk to your corporation unless you spent like 2 dollars a month was ridiculous. I am glad CCP did away with them. What do you think you would buy with real money? How can CCP make money off of the community without just milking us like blue ribbon cows? |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:12:00 -
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Put out the game they told us they had; on PS4 (where the new money is).
Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
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jhon hartigan
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:19:00 -
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Suit customization. They have to be permanent not expandable. |
Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:20:00 -
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Money making ideas:
Manipulate matchmaking to put all pay players on one side of a battle so that players have no choice but pay to win.
Offer vehicles, gear, and weapons for real money that cannot be beat by anyone except another pay to win player...
oh, wait, ccp already beat me to both these ideas..... |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
284
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:22:00 -
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Cosmetics.
Paint bucket options for aurum would be popular. It probably doesn't need to be bumped up the priority list though, considering the game's existing flaws. |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:24:00 -
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would pay 2 have my helmet off in social hubs if I got to choose my mercs portrait. |
Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:24:00 -
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Vanity suit skins. Personally I wouldn't be apposed to a voluntary subscription for a bit of AUR, if they keep it really now like $5 a month I would think a higher percentage of people would be willing to sign up and in reality it's more to support the game than get much AUR.
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "fuck this I'm out"...
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Cavani1EE7
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:25:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:So I am sure all of you are shocked to hear this: CCP created this game in order to make money. They are a company and exist to make money. I was mortified to discover this too but I think if we all band together we can overcome this sudden revelation.
Mmh, sarcasm?
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:29:00 -
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Shame on whoever suggests customization for aurum. Games had customization back on ps2 and early ps3 and then it dropped off. Customization should be standard in all games lol.
Ccp needs to make the game not suck and offer subscriptions. |
Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
157
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:31:00 -
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Aurum item in EVE are all cosmetic. They could add those type items in Dust as well as suit/vehicle custom colors, emblem and logos.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:33:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Put out the game they told us they had; on PS4 (where the new money is).
*will be
At the moment they'll probably make more money with the PS3 version. And that probably won'tchange for at least another year or two.
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
192
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:33:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Money making ideas:
Manipulate matchmaking to put all pay players on one side of a battle so that players have no choice but pay to win.
Offer vehicles, gear, and weapons for real money that cannot be beat by anyone except another pay to win player...
oh, wait, ccp already beat me to both these ideas.....
Thats not true, aurum items have the same stats as regular isk bought items.
And this isn't cod, this is dust. There should be no limit to the amount of players on the team unless it's high sec.
There's nothing wrong with ganging up with a larger group in this game |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
242
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:38:00 -
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All have to be permanent to be even considered for purchase. Perishable virtual goods are stupidly useless.
- Suit Customisation
- Custom Helmets & Armour Skins
- Vehicle Customisation
- Corporation Colours for both of the above
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:39:00 -
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Well for starters - giving us proper customisation of dropsuits, weapons and vehicle skins and colours would certainly bring in some money for CCP. I would pay to be able to change colours / have unique variants etc... |
T'orq
DUST University
Ivy League
215
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:41:00 -
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No, I don't think people would subscribe to play DUST 514. In fact a lot of people will leave, me included
Thanjac-
Proud Commando Member
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:48:00 -
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We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be looking at a lot of various monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :)
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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jhon hartigan
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:49:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Shame on whoever suggests customization for aurum. Games had customization back on ps2 and early ps3 and then it dropped off. Customization should be standard in all games lol.
Ccp needs to make the game not suck and offer subscriptions.
But Dust is f2p |
Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:49:00 -
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Another money making idea, FIX THE OLD CONTENT BEFORE YOU RELEASE NEW CONTENT.
Honestly this sort of thread is why DUST will always be crap. Instead of saying, "I refuse to buy AUR until the game is totally finished"
People are saying, "I know the game is nearly unplayable but if you let me see my guy with my helmet off I'll pay whatever you want!"
This is why next year everyone will be playing Star Citizen on computers or any of the space theme console games coming out, and CCP goes the way of 38 Studios. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:55:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :)
Really?
Finally getting the people you needed 18 months ago eh CCP?
I'd happily pay an elite pack amount of coin to give DUST University a uniform. Something I've mentioned now at two Fanfest's.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
266
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:56:00 -
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I would have no problem paying a (smaller than EVE) subscription if that meant we could have quality content.
As it stands now, one of the major hurdles I see in integrating EVE and DUST, particularly their economies, is the fact that they have different business models. DUST players can just drop RL money on the game to get what they want. Why worry about the hassle of dealing with EVE players in that case?
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
266
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:00:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:Money making ideas:
Manipulate matchmaking to put all pay players on one side of a battle so that players have no choice but pay to win.
Offer vehicles, gear, and weapons for real money that cannot be beat by anyone except another pay to win player...
oh, wait, ccp already beat me to both these ideas.....
There are a lot of faults with DUST, but at the least, the pay to win argument doesn't stand. AUR items have identical stats to their ISK counterparts. At best it's 'pay-to-get-early-access.' What's the difference between me spending RL money for proto and maybe two weeks later (a month, tops) you paying ISK and SP for the exact same thing?
"Pay to win" is spouted by knee jerk reactionary scrubs.
(I don't spend AUR on anything other than boosters.)
DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
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Marc Rime
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:00:00 -
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Dual boosters amount to more or less a monthly MMO subscription. Isn't that enough? Other companies seem to do fine with that, and they actually have the expenses that come with creating/providing a true MMO. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:06:00 -
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Dropsuit, Weapons and Vehicle Skins.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
498
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:12:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:Dual boosters amount to more or less a monthly MMO subscription. Isn't that enough? Other companies seem to do fine with that, and they actually have the expenses that come with creating/providing a true MMO.
The problem with dual boosters is that they have a limiting factor. Once you already do the roles you want to do, they are of no use to you. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:13:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :)
focus on making dust more of an mmo then an fps and you will get tons of money.
manufacturing, travel, planet mining, and pve.
take the lobby out of lobby shooter |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1121
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:14:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:
I am curious what are other ways CCP can sell services to the community without being insulting. UVT's were insulting; not being able to talk to your corporation unless you spent like 2 dollars a month was ridiculous. I am glad CCP did away with them. What do you think you would buy with real money? How can CCP make money off of the community without just milking us like blue ribbon cows?
changing core mechanics & specific playstyles every patch is even more insulting because if forces you to grind if you are unhappy with the situation. that is what is currently happening and 1.8 is no different when no respec is given. |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
242
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:21:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Shame on whoever suggests customization for aurum. Games had customization back on ps2 and early ps3 and then it dropped off. Customization should be standard in all games lol.
Ccp needs to make the game not suck and offer subscriptions.
No Subs
Go back to WoW. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1607
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:26:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:I would have no problem paying a (smaller than EVE) subscription if that meant we could have quality content.
Agreed. Last I heard, they were looking to charge more than EVE for a monthly DUST subscription, which seems bonkers once you compare depth and content.
If they come to their senses, they could have a happy, steady stream of income though.
As for things I'd pay for:
- Suit "paint": Let me buy uses of a skin I can apply to any suit I want. Even 10 AUR a pop is fine.
- Pimp my Merc Quarters
- Pimp my Corp War Barge
- Pimp my Merc, assuming you ever let us take our helmets off.
- FW faction standings boosters (not LP boosters)
- Allow players to trade AUR for ISK with each other (similar to the PLEX market in EVE)
- Create a market period. Being able to trade AUR items could increase their purchase by cash-rich, ISK-poor players.
That's off the top of my headGǪ
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:28:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :)
*cough*...Salvage boosters...*cough*
32db Mad Bomber.
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Shadow of War88
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:31:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We have just brought in a new Monetization Director that will be evaluating several monetization avenues. Introductions and cool stuff to come soon when I can get him to fire it over to me! :)
maybe we can get vanity items? Such as camos and war paint or maybe corp emblem on the chest or back or on a tank?
those woulnd really influence game balance but give us some much needed bling. Players always try to set themselves apart. |
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