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BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:03:00 - [1] - Quote 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4299	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:06:00 - [2] - Quote I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4284	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:07:00 - [3] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! MLT tank spam is only -+ of the problem. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:13:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:16:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! MLT tank spam is only -+ of the problem. let them spam then its a pub game only puppys cry over it you think anyones that plays PC cares about MLT tank spam no ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 574	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:17:00 - [6] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Could you be anymore ******** We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4288	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:18:00 - [7] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! MLT tank spam is only -+ of the problem. let them spam then its a pub game only puppys cry over it you think anyones that plays PC cares about MLT tank spam no ! Puppies? Oh....! you think you are someone!? My bad , sorry. Im thinking of tanks in the case of overall gaming experience, not only what i or you play. But what noobs play, what lone wolves play, what low level corps play,etc... Only scrubs think only of themselves. :3 AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1766	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:19:00 - [8] - Quote Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:20:00 - [9] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Could you be anymore ******** im sorry im not mad im just sick of reading " CRY CRY CRY MLT TANKS OP CRY CRY CRY CCP GIVE ME GIVE ME BETTER STUFF TO stop the big bad MLT tanks from stomping me in a pub because no one wanted to run AV" Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4288	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:20:00 - [10] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. Yes this is true, but there is no reason to be a douche about it. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:23:00 - [11] - Quote look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4288	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:26:00 - [12] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 575	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:27:00 - [13] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Could you be anymore ******** im sorry im not mad im just sick of reading " CRY CRY CRY MLT TANKS OP CRY CRY CRY CCP GIVE ME GIVE ME BETTER STUFF TO stop the big bad MLT tanks from stomping me in a pub because no one wanted to run AV" So you cry about the guys crying congrats you are above them We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1768	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:29:00 - [14] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. Yes this is true, but there is no reason to be a douche about it. True but have you never been a douche about anything? The real proble with Tanks doesn't lie with the hulls or their cost. It lies in their strength. The strength hardners, the strength of reps, that's the problem. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:29:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. there not powerful and they cheap for new players to try out tanking if your standing in front of one with a blaster or see one and dont call it out to the team or get real AV then its not the tanks fault ! its yours ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:30:00 - [16] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Could you be anymore ******** im sorry im not mad im just sick of reading " CRY CRY CRY MLT TANKS OP CRY CRY CRY CCP GIVE ME GIVE ME BETTER STUFF TO stop the big bad MLT tanks from stomping me in a pub because no one wanted to run AV" So you cry about the guys crying congrats you are above them I am ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Azura Sakura Blood Eye Ravens 581	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:35:00 - [17] - Quote I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1769	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:40:00 - [18] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush It's actually the other way round, the amount is fine for ambush (a terribly crude cluster***) the problem is strength. Tanks 514* I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4300	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:50:00 - [19] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Nope. To be fair, I roll with a Gunnlogi, not a MLT tank. Though I usually always encounter AV when I'm face-rolling them. The only AV I've ever died to was a group of FG users who caught me when I was half-sleeping. What does a better tank have to do with anything? That's like saying Logistics aren't OP because someone fielded a better Logistics. Oh wait... I've never played COD btw. Why does everyone always bring up COD? Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:50:00 - [20] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush they can fix it remove all Lav,s HAV,s and dropships make map smaller Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6466	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:52:00 - [21] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! Using MLT tanks is every more lame. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4300	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:52:00 - [22] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush Not quite. I could easily deal with the quantity of HAVs. It's the quality of the HAVs that is the problem. Which ironically, is the root cause of the spam in the the first place. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4300	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:53:00 - [23] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush they can fix it remove all Lav,s HAV,s and dropships make map smaller I'd rather not... Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.01 23:54:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Nope. To be fair, I roll with a Gunnlogi, not a MLT tank. Though I usually always encounter AV when I'm face-rolling them. The only AV I've ever died to was a group of FG users who caught me when I was half-sleeping. What does a better tank have to do with anything? That's like saying Logistics aren't OP because someone fielded a better Logistics. Oh wait... I've never played COD btw. Why does everyone always bring up COD? i can see SDT stop its a beast rite now but rely Forgun + MLT = dead tank on the rood same with a a well fitted AV AVD SL drop suit . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Azura Sakura Blood Eye Ravens 583	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:01:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush Not quite. I could easily deal with the quantity of HAVs. It's the quality of the HAVs that is the problem. Which ironically, is the root cause of the spam in the the first place. Can you explain to me about the quality of a MLT tank? Team work ( with forge guns) can a deal with MLT tank easily. But I could be wrong, I'm not a tanker though. Just logi and DS pilot.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 890	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:10:00 - [26] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: get real AV and what exactly do you call real AV I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4303	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:21:00 - [27] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: Atiim wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush Not quite. I could easily deal with the quantity of HAVs. It's the quality of the HAVs that is the problem. Which ironically, is the root cause of the spam in the the first place. Can you explain to me about the quality of a MLT tank? Team work ( with forge guns) can a deal with MLT tank easily. But I could be wrong, I'm not a tanker though. Just logi and DS pilot. You already did most of the explaining for me. It's better than 1 person using it's counter. Also, MLT modules yield the same effect as STD/ADV/PRO modules (bar CPU/PG). Also, if you know what your doing than you can easily stomp without a STD hull. All you get is 1 extra slot and more CPU/PG. Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Azura Sakura Blood Eye Ravens 583	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:36:00 - [28] - Quote Atiim wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: Atiim wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush Not quite. I could easily deal with the quantity of HAVs. It's the quality of the HAVs that is the problem. Which ironically, is the root cause of the spam in the the first place. Can you explain to me about the quality of a MLT tank? Team work ( with forge guns) can a deal with MLT tank easily. But I could be wrong, I'm not a tanker though. Just logi and DS pilot. You already did most of the explaining for me. It's better than 1 person using it's counter. Also, MLT modules yield the same effect as STD/ADV/PRO modules (bar CPU/PG). Also, if you know what your doing than you can easily stomp without a STD hull. All you get is 1 extra slot and more CPU/PG. Yes they have the same modules to make it fair for new tankers I believe. But a well fit Gunlogi or that other tank and easily beat a MLT tank and that same tank will require more AV to take it down.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:55:00 - [29] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: get real AV and what exactly do you call real AV I did Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 384	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:58:00 - [30] - Quote Quote: Yes they have the same modules to make it fair for new tankers I believe. But a well fit Gunlogi or that other tank and easily beat a MLT tank and that same tank will require more AV to take it down. to some it up its not the game where you get a RPG and 2 hit a tank and run off shooting your AR you need team work if your team of puppys dont want to play smart then i dont go WTF when a lone noob in a tank runs over the whole team. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 388	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:33:00 - [31] - Quote as far as tank spam i think CCP should give out more isk for MLT tank kills just saying . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4302	Posted - 2014.02.02 01:59:00 - [32] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. there not powerful and they cheap for new players to try out tanking if your standing in front of one with a blaster or see one and dont call it out to the team or get real AV then its not the tanks fault ! its yours ! Let me see: GÖª Call in Sica with Blaster (if no enemy tanks) or Rail turret. GÖª Own everything without much problem. GÖª Not even FG present a threat to me GÖª If another tank (the only true threat) appears i try to take him town, i have 2 shield hardeners that work pretty neet GÖª If im getting outgunned and feel i wont win , i activate my ARMOR Hardener, i jump off my Sica, and recall.It only takes like 2 seconds. GÖª I try to take out the tank on foot with my Sentinel BPO and DAU. GÖª If i die, i only loose 1 DAU ASsault FG. Seems PRETTY POWERFUL TO ME. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 695	Posted - 2014.02.02 02:49:00 - [33] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 897	Posted - 2014.02.02 02:52:00 - [34] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: get real AV and what exactly do you call real AV I did doesn't answer the question you said use real av. i asked you "what exactly do you call real av", as in, what in your eyes do you see as real av. this is what we all want to know because apparently you are the only person in dust who has any I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 388	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:00:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. there not powerful and they cheap for new players to try out tanking if your standing in front of one with a blaster or see one and dont call it out to the team or get real AV then its not the tanks fault ! its yours ! Let me see: GÖª Call in Sica with Blaster (if no enemy tanks) or Rail turret. GÖª Own everything without much problem. GÖª Not even FG present a threat to me GÖª If another tank (the only true threat) appears i try to take him town, i have 2 shield hardeners that work pretty neet GÖª If im getting outgunned and feel i wont win , i activate my ARMOR Hardener, i jump off my Sica, and recall.It only takes like 2 seconds. GÖª I try to take out the tank on foot with my Sentinel BPO and DAU. GÖª If i die, i only loose 1 DAU ASsault FG. Seems PRETTY POWERFUL TO ME. Not even FG present a threat to me <----BS !! must have never been hit with with one ! GÖª If another tank (the only true threat) appears i try to take him town, i have 2 shield hardeners that work pretty neet <-- Noob thinks 2 60% are 120 % and lets not for get diminishing marginal returns GÖª If im getting outgunned and feel i wont win , i activate my ARMOR Hardener, i jump off my Sica, and recall.It only takes like 2 seconds. <--- BS O your the kind that jump out at point black ? and you think your going to call your tank back ??? so tell us when do you give up and jump out at what hp ??? its its sad to see you post that anyone with in know in tanks knows your BSing everyone and that your not a REAL tanker and you DONT know what the heck your talking about so to some up not only do you not know how to play the game your trying to BS your point and hope CCP and everyone falls for it . Sorry this is Not COD or MW or BF get SP be smart with it and work as a team and youll fined out MLT tanks are not OP at all. or just keep playing how you are and think everything is a bout Puppys and there Pub games. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 388	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:03:00 - [36] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: get real AV and what exactly do you call real AV I did doesn't answer the question you said use real av. i asked you "what exactly do you call real av", as in, what in your eyes do you see as real av. this is what we all want to know because apparently you are the only person in dust who has any Quote: but rely Forgun + MLT = dead tank on the rood same with a a well fitted AV AVD SL drop suit . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1043	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:06:00 - [37] - Quote MLT tanks are completely fine. They die easy. Anyone can jump in them and make it somewhat relevant. They are easy to kill and usually the only tank AV can kill. They are the only answer to killing tankers who know anything... The best answer to another tank is a MLT tank. When you nerf MLT tanks it won't make it better for Infantry but it will make it better for dedicated tankers. As they won't have to worry about anyone but dedicated tankers. MLT tanks is not a problem in DUST they are a balance factor.
Leezir Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:07:00 - [38] - Quote Let's be honest...Armor Hardners are what make tanks overpowered
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 389	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:09:00 - [39] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1129	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:10:00 - [40] - Quote You have to look at it from a designpoint of view. Why have skills if we can just go ahead and have the item do fine without the skills? This would be fine if CCP would shift its focus to selling permenant aur items rather than skill tree crap. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1044	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:12:00 - [41] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP. That blame lies with CCP's battle Academy. Fact that there is no walk through to even using a MLT swarm launcher or forge gun in Academy shows you alot.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 389	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:12:00 - [42] - Quote Bethhy wrote: MLT tanks are completely fine. They die easy. Anyone can jump in them and make it somewhat relevant. They are easy to kill and usually the only tank AV can kill. They are the only answer to killing tankers who know anything... The best answer to another tank is a MLT tank. When you nerf MLT tanks it won't make it better for Infantry but it will make it better for dedicated tankers. As they won't have to worry about anyone but dedicated tankers. MLT tanks is not a problem in DUST they are a balance factor. O my god someone thats knows what there saying LOOK PUPPYS LOOK AT THIS GOD !!!! NOW! im sorry but rely this somes it all up you nerf MLT tanks your only messing up the game for players who are not skilled into tanks and yes AV do,s kill MLT and a lot of it ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 389	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:15:00 - [43] - Quote Bethhy wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP. That blame lies with CCP's battle Academy. Fact that there is no walk through to even using a MLT swarm launcher or forge gun in Academy shows you alot. this is sooo true you end up with players who run there 1st games in AR only suits thining its all they have to care about and BOOM MLT tank and they just stop sit down and cry ! all becus no one showed them how to fit a good AV dropsuit and the one you get for free is a sad sad SAD joke ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1591	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:16:00 - [44] - Quote is the legendary rail gun tanker playing this game again. O_O i need to play against u XD. <3. Because a majority of ppl left r so bad it hurts. :( Main - BobThe843CakeMan Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details. Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 390	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:24:00 - [45] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: is the legendary rail gun tanker playing this game again. O_O i need to play against u XD. <3. Because a majority of ppl left r so bad it hurts. :( same here miss the old guys players that know what skill was and what was needed to kill a tank in one or on foot i miss them days bad too Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 390	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:49:00 - [46] - Quote they should block all players from the forums unless they have 500.000 war points or more Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 695	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:51:00 - [47] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP. They are pretty good at slaughtering infantry too.... My intention is not to fool anyone, that is what you are doing. Hardener, extender, and plates. That's all you need and it only has to be milita to boot. I'm not a good tank driver, I use to tank a little before uprising but gave it up yet I can still go 23-0 in a milita tank because I have the absolute base understanding of them. During my trial of the milita tank I encountered plenty of AV, none of it really scared me or made me react any differently than usual, point and click. Unless there was a proto forge gun, then I had to get fancy and stop (on a dime) and roll backwards slightly. If they waited to ambush I would just throw on my hardener and drive away, yeah good luck charging that forge gun 3 times before I'm gone. Jihad jeeps? Easy, shoot them. Remote dets? Lol my tank is so fast, try catching it before I get my blaster on you scout. Swarm launchers? Hahahaha stop it that tickles! I watched 3 guys switch to adv swarms, one proto to try and stop me, their first volly was actually pretty good, then I killed one of them and the natural recharge easily tanked the other two, didn't even break a sweat. I felt very dirty, as should anyone who uses a tank. The only real threat to a tank is another tank, and why bother using one of those when you can call in a milita that's just as effective but costs only a fifth of the std variant? You cannot tell me it requires skill to operate them effectively, as I don't have any skill at tanking and came top of the boards. The reason why most people don't run av anymore is because they know its pointless, unless you have proto and another guy with proto you may as well just run. At least with av you have to actually figure out how to skill into it, tanks require no investment to slaughter infantry and vehicles unopposed, they are skill less both in sp and actual player skill. I think you completely missed this so I'll make it as clear as possible, a milita tank with milita mods is more cost effective, better tanked, and more powerful than an assault dropship with a full proto fit. My sica cost, 90k. sp costs 0 My pythons cost, 707k. Sp cost (estimate) 400k to fly 6mil to be effective. A milita sica with a milita rail gun and two milita damage mods can two shot my python in 1.2 seconds by simply holding down R1. That's faster than a module can even turn on. Please try and tell me how that's not op.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1593	Posted - 2014.02.02 04:09:00 - [48] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: they should block all players from the forums unless they have 500.000 war points or more they make u play 15 minutes before u can post. Main - BobThe843CakeMan Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details. Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 392	Posted - 2014.02.02 11:49:00 - [49] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: they should block all players from the forums unless they have 500.000 war points or more they make u play 15 minutes before u can post. not good anuff when a player hits 500.000 war points they played the gamelong anuff to care about it . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution 4891	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:06:00 - [50] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. Sica with 3 gardeners? Shows how much you know. Fatal Absolution Operation - LVL 5 Fatal Absolution Pro. - LVL 5 FOTM Abuser, outta mah way Nyain San!

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 392	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:12:00 - [51] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. Sica with 3 hardeners? Shows how much you know. I love it when players who hate tanks because they want a AR game only get shut down btw here,s the fun fact KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion <---- NPC corp do,s no PC Amarr Empire <----- even sadder because you know we ALL should have to fix the game for players not in a real player run corp who only run pubs battles ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 633	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:39:00 - [52] - Quote I love Militia Tank spam. It gives me a reason to pull out my RE's again. So fun to run up to a tank and put down RE's and take it out. So many people think tanks are OP that they go grab Militia tanks and think they can be powerful. Maybe against the average to bellow average player, yes, but man are they fun to hunt if you have experience fighting them.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 392	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:42:00 - [53] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: [quote=BAD FURRY]2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there ................................................................ During my trial of the milita tank I encountered plenty of AV, none of it really scared me or made me react any differently than usual, point and click. Unless there was a proto forge gun, then I had to get fancy and stop (on a dime) and roll backwards slightly. If they waited to ambush I would just throw on my hardener and drive away, yeah good luck charging that forge gun 3 times before I'm gone. Jihad jeeps? Easy, shoot them. Remote dets? Lol my tank is so fast, try catching it before I get my blaster on you scout. Swarm launchers? Hahahaha stop it that tickles! I watched 3 guys switch to adv swarms, one proto to try and stop me.......................................... Please try and tell me how that's not op. See your in a Pub battle no duh! the other guys cant stop you ! hell i even bet most of them are runing around in the open on foot being shot at by you guys! So no dude you runing pub battles and crushing noobs do,s not make the MLT tanks OP and you cant use the python because its a drop ship! Not A TANK! its not meant to take on AV fire like a tank so duh there 500.000 isk a pop They Fing FLY ! and kill stuff and can drop troops off behind the other team where a tank would have to drive if not plow tho the other team ! how bout you take your worlds and put them into a PC battle and then come tell me you ran off with 24/0 No rely DO A PC BATTLE only useing them I want to know cuz from what i see MLT tanks are junk vsing players who KNOW what they are doing with AV. hears something you can think about what if T2 tanks and then T3! care to tell me how BS it is in a pub mach to know there's tanks coming SOON tm that Cant Be KILLED !!unless hit with another tank or jet ??? and yes i can see it now puppys crying over getting T3 stomped because they think the world of dust is all about PUB BATTLES ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 392	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:44:00 - [54] - Quote SILENTSAM 69 wrote: I love Militia Tank spam. It gives me a reason to pull out my RE's again. So fun to run up to a tank and put down RE's and take it out. So many people think tanks are OP that they go grab Militia tanks and think they can be powerful. Maybe against the average to bellow average player, yes, but man are they fun to hunt if you have experience fighting them. I give you Beer ! thank you ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y 384	Posted - 2014.02.02 12:59:00 - [55] - Quote ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 392	Posted - 2014.02.02 13:18:00 - [56] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price Ummm No ! we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing ! and like i said Pub battles dont count ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4319	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:24:00 - [57] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price Ummm No ! we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing ! and like i said Pub battles dont count ! And let me guess, PC is all that does count? First off, only a very small part of the playerbase participates in PC, and only a small part of the playerbase could participate in Planetary Conquest if they wanted to. Furthermore, balance around the Planetary Conquest game-mode implies that everyone is running Prototype and Officer gear 24/7. If you are going to allow something to be balanced in one gamemode, but not another; then do not allow them to be in said gamemode (Basically, if you won't balance them around PUBs, then remove them from PUBs) I think these guys also covered that point in another thread: DUST Fiend wrote: PC is too small of a sample size, considering not only do so few play it, so few even CAN play it. You just wind up with a few set styles of play that generally stick, and you don't really get the bigger picture of overall balance. Tanks themselves are fairly balanced, it's red line abuse and militia tank abuse that are causing issues in the general population, and I would not be remotely surprised to see dedicated red line rail tanks in PC matches that literally never ever leave their post. I think a lot of PC players are putting too much value in their "status" and failing to see that it's the same game with more coordination. The mechanics don't change, it's just that you generally have an entire team working together and everyone just uses what's statistically strongest not because they're interested in the balance of the game, but because they're interested in winning that match. Surt gods end wrote: You can't shape this game out of something as exclusive as PC. To many factors plays into why it is exclusive and great team corp is not one of em. or I should say only reason. CB has proven to be the better judgment of strong teams. Without the VIP treatment. PC players are about 5% of this game's playerbase. Anyone saying that something should be balanced around what almost nobody plays clearly has no credibility in a balance discussion [/thread] Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 522	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:37:00 - [58] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! This coming from the tanker that's a big fan of redline railing. Which I suggest you stick with, rolling with the big boys isn't your thing And zomg, you run guns on your tank from the redline. EPIC FAIL Nuff Said
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 523	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:44:00 - [59] - Quote Atiim wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price Ummm No ! we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing ! and like i said Pub battles dont count ! And let me guess, PC is all that does count? First off, only a very small part of the playerbase participates in PC, and only a small part of the playerbase could participate in Planetary Conquest if they wanted to. Furthermore, balance around the Planetary Conquest game-mode implies that everyone is running Prototype and Officer gear 24/7. If you are going to allow something to be balanced in one gamemode, but not another; then do not allow them to be in said gamemode (Basically, if you won't balance them around PUBs, then remove them from PUBs) I think these guys also covered that point in another thread: DUST Fiend wrote: PC is too small of a sample size, considering not only do so few play it, so few even CAN play it. You just wind up with a few set styles of play that generally stick, and you don't really get the bigger picture of overall balance. Tanks themselves are fairly balanced, it's red line abuse and militia tank abuse that are causing issues in the general population, and I would not be remotely surprised to see dedicated red line rail tanks in PC matches that literally never ever leave their post. I think a lot of PC players are putting too much value in their "status" and failing to see that it's the same game with more coordination. The mechanics don't change, it's just that you generally have an entire team working together and everyone just uses what's statistically strongest not because they're interested in the balance of the game, but because they're interested in winning that match. Surt gods end wrote: You can't shape this game out of something as exclusive as PC. To many factors plays into why it is exclusive and great team corp is not one of em. or I should say only reason. CB has proven to be the better judgment of strong teams. Without the VIP treatment. PC players are about 5% of this game's playerbase. Anyone saying that something should be balanced around what almost nobody plays clearly has no credibility in a balance discussion [/thread] I liken PC to what endgame. Every single person is running every bit of proto they have. So yes, balancing from a PC perspective and not from a PUB perspective is a good idea. Teams are balanced in the sense of gear unlike PUBS, so please attim tell me, how is that not a balanced perspective. Yes PC is exclusive, but it IS endgame. To compare, Pubs are like PvP Battlegrounds in WoW. Sure you can try to balance things around everything below level 59, but the level 60's battlegrounds is the endgame of PVP. Everyone has the opportunity to use the BEST gear, and have the BEST and Max skills. The problem with dust, NO ******* ENDGAME aside from PC that is mostly locked up all the time. Nuff Said
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 523	Posted - 2014.02.02 15:55:00 - [60] - Quote Tanks - A real balance thread Tanks - Balancing turrets Oh, and here are some REAL tank balancing threads. Read and learn. Nuff Said

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1049	Posted - 2014.02.02 16:47:00 - [61] - Quote Atiim wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price Ummm No ! we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing ! and like i said Pub battles dont count ! And let me guess, PC is all that does count? First off, only a very small part of the playerbase participates in PC, and only a small part of the playerbase could participate in Planetary Conquest if they wanted to. Furthermore, balance around the Planetary Conquest game-mode implies that everyone is running Prototype and Officer gear 24/7. If you are going to allow something to be balanced in one gamemode, but not another; then do not allow them to be in said gamemode (Basically, if you won't balance them around PUBs, then remove them from PUBs) I think these guys also covered that point in another thread: DUST Fiend wrote: PC is too small of a sample size, considering not only do so few play it, so few even CAN play it. You just wind up with a few set styles of play that generally stick, and you don't really get the bigger picture of overall balance. Tanks themselves are fairly balanced, it's red line abuse and militia tank abuse that are causing issues in the general population, and I would not be remotely surprised to see dedicated red line rail tanks in PC matches that literally never ever leave their post. I think a lot of PC players are putting too much value in their "status" and failing to see that it's the same game with more coordination. The mechanics don't change, it's just that you generally have an entire team working together and everyone just uses what's statistically strongest not because they're interested in the balance of the game, but because they're interested in winning that match. Surt gods end wrote: You can't shape this game out of something as exclusive as PC. To many factors plays into why it is exclusive and great team corp is not one of em. or I should say only reason. CB has proven to be the better judgment of strong teams. Without the VIP treatment. PC players are about 5% of this game's playerbase. Anyone saying that something should be balanced around what almost nobody plays clearly has no credibility in a balance discussion [/thread] I Agree there has to be some shaping of the game around the casual gamer experience afterall even I am a casual gamer... and so is 95% of the community. But PC is the "End game" as it is said and a lot of people are missing what that even means. You can name off a list of the big ol' FPS developers of all time with the big success stories, and everyone of them have one thing in common...they test and balance their overall game around the "end game" aspect... or the Competitive, highly skilled player pool. These players afterall will show you the flaw in your design before anything. This is not to give to much "attention" on player status.. a lot of the players that hold good status in PC, held it long before PC even existed. Most of these skilled player's in this pool can make newly 500k SP characters and get results most players playing for 8 months struggle to get in the best of circumstances. We want public contracts to be competitive and accessible for all, but if there is MASSIVE balance, performance, roles, racial, vehicle, equipment, dropship, map efficacy.... etc ... etc... issues in the most competitive aspect of the game. Like is pointed out by so many supposed "counter points" That are taken advantage of while huge aspects of the game are left useless.... Then yes... PC is a very relevant place to look at balance and implementation success... Because even anyone of the quoted players, can farm new players with a plasma cannon... but bring it to PC? Pfft. You can go down the line with racial parity in general, game performance, equipment use and abuse, maps... you name it... And what is a trend in PC fastly becomes one in pubs. Meh...
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 538	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:04:00 - [62] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! You are so gd dmn stupid You are welcome for my leadership. Proven Aggressive Type I have spoken.
Toby Flenderson research lab 233	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:12:00 - [63] - Quote The thing that bothers me the most about the OP has to be the lack of punctuation. I think the only epic fail here is the public school system...
shadow drake35 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 39	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:12:00 - [64] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! i use milita but only for fun i would get a real tank but not enough skill but i dont whine either The Mercenary Way Who cares about race as long as the job is done and i get paid.
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 523	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:18:00 - [65] - Quote Bethhy wrote: I Agree there has to be some shaping of the game around the casual gamer experience afterall even I am a casual gamer... and so is 95% of the community. But PC is the "End game" as it is said and a lot of people are missing what that even means. You can name off a list of the big ol' FPS developers of all time with the big success stories, and everyone of them have one thing in common...they test and balance their overall game around the "end game" aspect... or the Competitive, highly skilled player pool. These players afterall will show you the flaw in your design before anything. This is not to give to much "attention" on player status.. a lot of the players that hold good status in PC, held it long before PC even existed. Most of these skilled player's in this pool can make newly 500k SP characters and get results most players playing for 8 months struggle to get in the best of circumstances. We want public contracts to be competitive and accessible for all, but if there is MASSIVE balance, performance, roles, racial, vehicle, equipment, dropship, map efficacy.... etc ... etc... issues in the most competitive aspect of the game. Like is pointed out by so many supposed "counter points" That are taken advantage of while huge aspects of the game are left useless.... Then yes... PC is a very relevant place to look at balance and implementation success... Because even anyone of the quoted players, can farm new players with a plasma cannon... but bring it to PC? Pfft. You can go down the line with racial parity in general, game performance, equipment use and abuse, maps... you name it... And what is a trend in PC fastly becomes one in pubs. Meh... It is always a pleasure to read your posts. Always straight forward and logical. Nuff Said
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 635	Posted - 2014.02.02 17:19:00 - [66] - Quote The price of tanks is too low right now. They should not have been made this cheap. They are easy throw away things now. Maybe they shouldn't be the price they were before, but they should not be the price they are now. Price should at least be reconsidered. Actually no, just open up production and let supply and demand set all prices.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 66	Posted - 2014.02.02 18:15:00 - [67] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! If you want us to stop complaining so much then spec into tanks. And also why are there mlt tanks they should be speced into to use. Caldari Loyalist
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 81	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:00:00 - [68] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! MLT tank spam is only -+ of the problem. let them spam then its a pub game only puppys cry over it you think anyones that plays PC cares about MLT tank spam no ! Puppies? Oh....! you think you are someone!? My bad , sorry. Im thinking of tanks in the case of overall gaming experience, not only what i or you play. But what noobs play, what lone wolves play, what low level corps play,etc... Only scrubs think only of themselves. :3 One million likes! Game gonenend up with 100 god mode players all fighting over districts in broken pc battles because no one will make it out of the academy, and still want to play this game?! Think about the new player base, the corps, they will create, and how much more fun this game would be with 500, 000 active players! Not 50,000?! More players, in a balanced game, means more oppurtunities. King checkmate is right! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 81	Posted - 2014.02.02 19:57:00 - [69] - Quote Bad furry, you obviously haven't taken the time to READ any of the post your complianing about?! You read one you didn't like, and off you went assuming what most(not all) pc players think?! Nobodies "crying" brother. There actually stating the obvious as much as you don't want to hear it. Most of the feedback/request post originate in-game from different player experiences on all levels. We want all those opinions to matter, or the game dies. Where do you think the new corp members come from? Other corps apparently because what a lot of you suggest kills the new player base. What is your corps SP recruitment level? 30+ million lol! Good luck with that smh?! They've told you here over and over that the militia tanks aren't the problem, the militia tank SPAM is! Too many nerds want their "i win button" at all times. They're either using lag switches, tank spam, or the flavor of the month(fotm) weapon to get others to praise their kill/death ratio whether they're actually good players or not?! Any player who comes into chat blabbing about his k/dr, that i can't actually see, is instantly getting a negative vote from me?! I've had to stomach listening to them in squad, while were getting slaughtered, talking about there k/dr from the ******* redline?! Which doesn't help the CURRENT ACTIVE BATTLE! But I digress ::) I suggest to you brother that you go through and read some of what others have suggested as solution to the tank spam problem. Not all are just asking for nerfs and crying. Some have actually said leave the tanks be! Limit the amount of overuse of any vehicle by limiting the amount of vehicles allowed. Since your such a high lvl god player, you of all people should know that to many ranks can loose the battle for you in skirmish just as quick as it can win it in ambush. To many tanks take away from the ground troops on the ground. That can be, and usually is, crippling on the ground. Leaving your teammates outnumbered at every point. Something k/dr huggers care nothing about because they're usually sniping in the redline or in their militia tank picking on scouts in the open at an outside point?! Try to understand the importance of retaining more new players. If they finish the academy and stay we can add them to corp, raise them up to be decent players solo and great team players, and enhance the game oppurtunities overall. PC is dead right now due to the elitess mentality. It's honestly the last thing on my mind, and I've fought in plenty. But, until CCP has a true reason to add PVE, fix small annoying glitches, and truly balance the game they won't. Why do you think we don't have a market yet? Maybe, due to district locking, the amount of money some corps have would cause inflation in any market because this game is lopsided in so many aspects it's ridiculous. Zibathy has suggested a great idea about pirating in dust in the districts, and other great ideas that would give the 10 man corp something to do other than get stomped?! Your only seeing it from your point of view at a top tier corp with plenty of members whose names you don't even know unless they play pc?! Try playing in squad with the newbies below 5 mil sp(not saying you don't) then let me know how that battle atainst the six militia tanks went lol! I play with my mates in squad a lot, but I also train new players in my areas of expertise. I don't pretend to know it all, but I know assault, squad tactics, how to move troops and support those movements, and how to deter and destroy tanks! Try explaining to a new player that he or she should spec into swarms or any AV equipment for months to lvl 5, when mlt tanks take no sp?! On that premise alone the concept of dust as it stands is bs?! Why should I, avid ground troop, have to specialize in multiple avenues of battle such as anti armor, anti infantry, etc. When the tanker can no skill into tanks and annihilate my whole team? And if he does spec into tanks even a little he's 10x more dangerous? Where's the balance in that? So lemme guess, anyone whose running ground right now is stupid right? Your crying about others crying, but you've given no solutions. HTFU isn't a solution?! Neither is get in a tank?! World of tanks is down the isle if that's what you fancy. I like running in squad, on the ground, in the fray, with grenades going off around me, fire fights erupting out of nowhere, calling for tank support, demanding bodies on points, directing sniper shots on dug-in targets, asking for dropship transport of troops, and 4he list goes on ::) Everyone has their role and I'm not knocking it, but let me have a chance at my role just like the tanker, sniper, masshole(and I'm one), scout, logi, etc. Spamming militia tanks makes all of these roles useless?! Sorry it's so long bro. "Anybody order chaos?"
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1719	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:02:00 - [70] - Quote Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. Squad with a tanker to stop that big, bad machine. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1719	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:04:00 - [71] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! MLT tank spam is only -+ of the problem. What's the other half, people actually know how to use them and aren't destroyed so easily? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1719	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:05:00 - [72] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. So what's the problem? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 4334	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:05:00 - [73] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. Squad with a tanker to stop that big, bad machine. Thanks to the SP event, I am that big bad machine again. And why should people be forced to squad up with a tanker to deal with tanks? Want to know how to make a strike-through? [s[Example[/s] Now go my Forum Warriors. Use this new weapon for glory!
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 81	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:07:00 - [74] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. So what's the problem? Refer to post #69 please. "Anybody order chaos?"
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 132	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:08:00 - [75] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Quote: Yes they have the same modules to make it fair for new tankers I believe. But a well fit Gunlogi or that other tank and easily beat a MLT tank and that same tank will require more AV to take it down. to some it up its not the game where you get a RPG and 2 hit a tank and run off shooting your AR you need team work if your team of puppys dont want to play smart then i dont go WTF when a lone noob in a tank runs over the whole team. So your argument is MLT tanks are fine because they are OP? Why is there this assumption that tanks should always require several people working together to take them out? Why? Don't just say "because the are tanks" that is just circular logic.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1719	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:12:00 - [76] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Quote: Yes they have the same modules to make it fair for new tankers I believe. But a well fit Gunlogi or that other tank and easily beat a MLT tank and that same tank will require more AV to take it down. to some it up its not the game where you get a RPG and 2 hit a tank and run off shooting your AR you need team work if your team of puppys dont want to play smart then i dont go WTF when a lone noob in a tank runs over the whole team. So your argument is MLT tanks are fine because they are OP? Why is there this assumption that tanks should always require several people working together to take them out? Why? Don't just say "because the are tanks" that is just circular logic. So why should we need more than one person to operate the tank at 100% of its efficiency? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 133	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:42:00 - [77] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. Sica with 3 hardeners? Shows how much you know. I love it when players who hate tanks because they want a AR game only get shut down btw here,s the fun fact KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion <---- NPC corp do,s no PC Amarr Empire <----- even sadder because you know we ALL should have to fix the game for players not in a real player run corp who only run pubs battles ! To the question of why people quit Dust, here is the primary answer, douchebags that think the game revolves around them.
shadow drake35 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 47	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:44:00 - [78] - Quote Atiim wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Nope. To be fair, I roll with a Gunnlogi, not a MLT tank. Though I usually always encounter AV when I'm face-rolling them. The only AV I've ever died to was a group of FG users who caught me when I was half-sleeping. What does a better tank have to do with anything? That's like saying Logistics aren't OP because someone fielded a better Logistics. Oh wait... I've never played COD btw. Why does everyone always bring up COD? i am tired of cod to it is a piece of crap and can go die The Mercenary Way Who careswhat i use as long as the job is done and i get paid.
Bradric Banewolf D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 83	Posted - 2014.02.02 20:56:00 - [79] - Quote Atiim wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. your only doing so because the other team is not using any AV or called in a better tank no rely if you dont know how to use av or put sp into it like most COD players do yes Any tank it going to stomp. Nope. To be fair, I roll with a Gunnlogi, not a MLT tank. Though I usually always encounter AV when I'm face-rolling them. The only AV I've ever died to was a group of FG users who caught me when I was half-sleeping. What does a better tank have to do with anything? That's like saying Logistics aren't OP because someone fielded a better Logistics. Oh wait... I've never played COD btw. Why does everyone always bring up COD? In my humble opinion COD stopped being interesting after part 2?! It's just a game full of weapon and gear featurettes from actual military gear?! Nothing more?! Add some cg scenes and you got the next 10 COD type fps's?! Battlefield is slowly but surely falling in line?! And if CCP isn't careful with this fotm mentality, they'll be next?! Players refer to COD because of the monotony of the genre, and how badly they SERIOUSLY don't want dust 514 to become COD?!? Anytime I see any kind of COD similarities in dust, in instant desperation, I run to the forums and start pleading with CCP to stop this madness immediately lol?!? The things you love about dust will end immediately if the COD generation comes over and sway CCP in these forums trust me. "Anybody order chaos?"
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 133	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:01:00 - [80] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Quote: Yes they have the same modules to make it fair for new tankers I believe. But a well fit Gunlogi or that other tank and easily beat a MLT tank and that same tank will require more AV to take it down. to some it up its not the game where you get a RPG and 2 hit a tank and run off shooting your AR you need team work if your team of puppys dont want to play smart then i dont go WTF when a lone noob in a tank runs over the whole team. So your argument is MLT tanks are fine because they are OP? Why is there this assumption that tanks should always require several people working together to take them out? Why? Don't just say "because the are tanks" that is just circular logic. So why should we need more than one person to operate the tank at 100% of its efficiency? Ummm, I don't know, I never said you should.

Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 134	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:04:00 - [81] - Quote As to PC being the place to check balance issues, that might or might not be a valid point, but the title of the OP is regarding MILITIA tanks, so PC and "endgame" are not relevant. That is just poor logic.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 67	Posted - 2014.02.02 21:26:00 - [82] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush It's actually the other way round, the amount is fine for ambush (a terribly crude cluster****) the problem is strength. Why are there vehicles in ambush Caldari Loyalist
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:05:00 - [83] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! This coming from the tanker that's a big fan of redline railing. Which I suggest you stick with, rolling with the big boys isn't your thing And zomg, you run guns on your tank from the redline. EPIC FAIL LOL omg you have braindamage or something ?? or did my tank roll over your teams tanks in 3 PC battles in a row ! then only way you stop us is to call A E and they o most lost with 2 Mcc ticks leth ! LOL heres the sad thing it was Your tank that camped the redline in all 3 games but yeah bro dont talk what you cant back up! most of the time i died i was on your side of the map with your guys in the redline ... BTW Stop calling your tanks out in the open infront of my tank/team unless your trying to give us free kills/points! and if thats the case just hand over all you Clay to us you dont look like you need it ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:06:00 - [84] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush It's actually the other way round, the amount is fine for ambush (a terribly crude cluster****) the problem is strength. Why are there vehicles in ambush Good point ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:28:00 - [85] - Quote O as for PC players its more like 10% and soon much much more and PC players are 95% most likey to stay with the game unlike the rest of the player base who run Pub battles and stop play affter only 90 days Because you know WE should care about players who Dont care about the game ! or more like players who dont know anything about the game play it then cry on the forums and say i play Pub mach i died game broken !! tank OP railgun OP blasters OP EVERYTHING THAT KILLS ME OP !!! no rly guys even at 5% that 5% 95% are players WHO DO SOMETHING IN GAME ! and who care and stay with the game for more then 90 days . as for the 95% not in PC only 5% care or play this game passed day 90 even less play pass day 180 so like i said stop crying get back to your game and get skill or get out of the way ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Mortedeamor 1324	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:43:00 - [86] - Quote they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream +1 for IWS to stay as cpm more-tae-dee-um-more stop asking how to pronounce my name its quite irritating
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:59:00 - [87] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 580	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:18:00 - [88] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:20:00 - [89] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. Quote: even then a MLT is still ez to bring down.[ Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 580	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:21:00 - [90] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. I just took out 2 Gunnlogi and 1 madie with a Sica 2 damage modifiers 1 armor plate and a armor hardner. No skills in vehicles but I killed guys who were. Please explain how the mlt tanks are not op We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 65	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:27:00 - [91] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! Obviously SVER doesn't have an IQ requirement.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 580	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:35:00 - [92] - Quote bamboo x wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! Obviously SVER doesn't have an IQ requirement. Ha I can't believe he thinks tanks are ok atm their God mode is quite ridiculous and needs to be toned down and av needs to be brought up but not to 1.6 standards after all if proto av can't take down a std tank, yes maddies\ Gunnlogi are std hulls, then something is wrong We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 65	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:46:00 - [93] - Quote Literally all you need to win a game of Dust: A squad of 5 At least one person with tank skill All of them immediately call down tanks at the beginning of the match Team up on enemy vehicles, kill infantry Easily redline them Or simply Skill into Rail tanks yourself Park it on a mountain with a view of the battlefield You are now an invincible vehicle-slayer
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:50:00 - [94] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. I just took out 2 Gunnlogi and 1 madie with a Sica 2 damage modifiers 1 armor plate and a armor hardner. No skills in vehicles but I killed guys who were. Please explain how the mlt tanks are not op LOL omg just because you killed them with skill they dint have any skill .... skill as in RL skill ! 2nd anyone can sneak up behind anyone in the game with low skill stuff and kill a pro fit play its called a FPS ! 3rd if you are rite and your not along with every other sub players thats crying over MLT tank and only shooting them selfs in the foot over it ! then WHY is it that not everyone is using MLT ? o that's rite because there EZ to KILL Anyone with some RL skill in a cheep fit can kill a pro fit and hay if your good at it more then one of them in a row . but hay like iv said over and over most puppys dont know anything there only good for reading there buthurt post on the forums here and then watching them rage over the fact its not the game its them that need be fixed ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 394	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:52:00 - [95] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Literally all you need to win a game of Dust: A squad of 5 At least one person with tank skill All of them immediately call down tanks at the beginning of the match Team up on enemy vehicles, kill infantry Easily redline them Or simply Skill into Rail tanks yourself Park it on a mountain with a view of the battlefield You are now an invincible vehicle-slayer O look someone who see,s a tank and saids games over i rage quite ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 580	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:00:00 - [96] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. I just took out 2 Gunnlogi and 1 madie with a Sica 2 damage modifiers 1 armor plate and a armor hardner. No skills in vehicles but I killed guys who were. Please explain how the mlt tanks are not op LOL omg just because you killed them with skill they dint have any skill .... skill as in RL skill ! 2nd anyone can sneak up behind anyone in the game with low skill stuff and kill a pro fit play its called a FPS ! 3rd if you are rite and your not along with every other sub players thats crying over MLT tank and only shooting them selfs in the foot over it ! then WHY is it that not everyone is using MLT ? o that's rite because there EZ to KILL Anyone with some RL skill in a cheep fit can kill a pro fit and hay if your good at it more then one of them in a row . but hay like iv said over and over most puppys dont know anything there only good for reading there buthurt post on the forums here and then watching them rage over the fact its not the game its them that need be fixed ! Are you autistic? You are sounding more and more like a Cod scrub. Tanks easy to kill correct if you have multiple av but if someone like myself with no skills in vehicles can go 33/2 in a mlt tank something is wrong VERY WRONG. In my Mt tank I can just sit in a spot and take forge gun rounds then just back off and then I'm good again. That is wrong if you get hit you shouldn't be able to rep quickly shields need lower recharge rate armor needs same. Why? Because science and game play that's why. Tanks should have high damage but hard to operate with alot of HP not high hp high armor rep high damage easy to use. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 68	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:23:00 - [97] - Quote Why are there MILITIA TANKS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Caldari Loyalist
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3889	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:33:00 - [98] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap. There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. They're too powerful, but I think the price right now is what we should be aiming for. HAVs should be a tool that anyone has access to; however, they shouldn't be as effective as they always have been. I am your scan error.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 396	Posted - 2014.02.03 01:39:00 - [99] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: they are really weak but vehicles do need stacking penalties and clip adjustments should be made also ..makes skill more a factor and limits weaker end tanks dmg stream tank get stacking penalties as for ammo its fine my be abit to much blaster ammo but the others are fine skill is a Big factor you have to skill up into tanks to make a MLT hard to kill and thats do to the players skilling into the tank and even then a MLT is still ez to bring down. I just took out 2 Gunnlogi and 1 madie with a Sica 2 damage modifiers 1 armor plate and a armor hardner. No skills in vehicles but I killed guys who were. Please explain how the mlt tanks are not op LOL omg just because you killed them with skill they dint have any skill .... skill as in RL skill ! 2nd anyone can sneak up behind anyone in the game with low skill stuff and kill a pro fit play its called a FPS ! 3rd if you are rite and your not along with every other sub players thats crying over MLT tank and only shooting them selfs in the foot over it ! then WHY is it that not everyone is using MLT ? o that's rite because there EZ to KILL Anyone with some RL skill in a cheep fit can kill a pro fit and hay if your good at it more then one of them in a row . but hay like iv said over and over most puppys dont know anything there only good for reading there buthurt post on the forums here and then watching them rage over the fact its not the game its them that need be fixed ! Are you autistic? You are sounding more and more like a Cod scrub. Tanks easy to kill correct if you have multiple av but if someone like myself with no skills in vehicles can go 33/2 in a mlt tank something is wrong VERY WRONG. In my Mt tank I can just sit in a spot and take forge gun rounds then just back off and then I'm good again. That is wrong if you get hit you shouldn't be able to rep quickly shields need lower recharge rate armor needs same. Why? Because science and game play that's why. Tanks should have high damage but hard to operate with alot of HP not high hp high armor rep high damage easy to use. Like i said befor OVER AND OVER !! PUB battles are FULL of NOOBS ! If they Knew what they where doing YOU Would have not have gone 33/2 but more like 12/6 stop crying for ccp here to fix MLT tanks when there fine ! they need some power to fight other tanks and Avd AV But like i said ! most players you run into with AV will just sit the and not doing anything but shot at you when you have cove to run to shoot at you when your be hind a wall and there on the other side becuz they have a lock run at you in the open with no back up or try to uses AV nads with out a hive so on so on no rely i can go on fill the whole page with the wrong of noobs uses AV vsing a MLT tank or any tank. CCP plz make a training room for new players to get skilled into AV at less know how to kill a tank with out bump rushing it in the open under the other teams fire rite to the frount of the tank ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
8213 Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1597	Posted - 2014.02.03 02:47:00 - [100] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush they can fix it remove all Lav,s HAV,s and dropships make map smaller Great idea! Now the guy that specced into his chosen role can't play one of the only 3 gamemodes offered... Seriously, just stop talking kid. Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY

Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 582	Posted - 2014.02.03 04:08:00 - [101] - Quote Okay either you are mentally ******** or you are a kindergartner. Please leave dust to the people who can spell and think correctly. Go back to cod. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Horizen Kenpachi Kenpachi's Castle 150	Posted - 2014.02.03 09:06:00 - [102] - Quote Infantry only game modes will stop this if u cant play well together il split u up on a side not sica will lay waste to all tanks 2 harders 3 tanks 1 clip recall get bk on it Hit me with your nerf bat.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 132	Posted - 2014.02.03 09:34:00 - [103] - Quote haha op. everyone laugh and point at him.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1722	Posted - 2014.02.03 09:40:00 - [104] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Why are there MILITIA TANKS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Why is there a MLT forge, but no MLT HMG? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Ryme Intrinseca Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 560	Posted - 2014.02.03 10:59:00 - [105] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. This, so much this. Militia tanks are the only thing making the game halfway playable for infantry at the moment. Without them on the field high SP tankers would swap their rails for blasters and go into fulltime farming mode. The obvious problem with the game is that all tanks are obscenely overpowered.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 143	Posted - 2014.02.03 11:21:00 - [106] - Quote yes mlt tanks are not overpowered or too strong when i can put an ion cannon, complex fuel injector , complex heavy rep and complex armour hardner and a basic scanner. and has the same EHP as my madruagr fitting. the problem with the millita tanks is that apart from the reduction of 1 low or high, and only about 50 cpu can 200 pwr grid diffrenece. they are the same as std. millita tanks should be slower, have lower ehp. reduced cpu by 100 and pwr grid by 250, lower scan stenrth. then that way they are defently millita tanks that anyone can use as reduced effectiveness compared to std. that way if they want to continue tanking they have move into std to actually be threat. or tanks and thier modules in general could get increses in prices so they are not spamable and only PEOPLE WHO HAVE SKILLED INTO USEING TANKS. are able to effectivley field them. i mean. since when does a millita suit have the same ehp and stats as a proto suit minus the fitting and slots. cant tanks be like this as well. millita has less ehp and scan strength and is easier to deal with than std.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 12:24:00 - [107] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. This, so much this. Militia tanks are the only thing making the game halfway playable for infantry at the moment. Without them on the field high SP tankers would swap their rails for blasters and go into fulltime farming mode. The obvious problem with the game is that all tanks are obscenely overpowered. and you can thank me for farming the framers ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 12:25:00 - [108] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Why are there MILITIA TANKS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Why is there a MLT forge, but no MLT HMG? I dont know think why not a MLT RE ? Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 12:32:00 - [109] - Quote 8213 wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: I don't think you understand. MLT tanks are fine, MLT tank spam is not fine xD. But this is mainly in ambush they can fix it remove all Lav,s HAV,s and dropships make map smaller Great idea! Now the guy that specced into his chosen role can't play one of the only 3 gamemodes offered... Seriously, just stop talking kid. you have 3 toon slots use them ! or make like i have over 20 alt accounts on PSN (there FREE) and Have FUN PLAYING ALL THE ROLLS !!!!! or you could just not do any of that and stop talking and sit with the other players in the room of "How i dont know what im doing wrong in dust but im going to cry about it !" Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 12:34:00 - [110] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Okay either you are mentally ******** or you are a kindergartner. Please leave dust to the people who can spell and think correctly. Go back to cod. plz just stop posting you lost ! and name calling is not going to help you now ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 12:36:00 - [111] - Quote Horizen Kenpachi wrote: Infantry only game modes will stop this if u cant play well together il split u up on a side not sica will lay waste to all tanks 2 harders 3 tanks 1 clip recall get bk on it .... what ? Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 12:43:00 - [112] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: yes mlt tanks are not overpowered or too strong when i can put an ion cannon, complex fuel injector , complex heavy rep and complex armour hardner and a basic scanner. and has the same EHP as my madruagr fitting. the problem with the millita tanks is that apart from the reduction of 1 low or high, and only about 50 cpu can 200 pwr grid diffrenece. they are the same as std. millita tanks should be slower, have lower ehp. reduced cpu by 100 and pwr grid by 250, lower scan stenrth. then that way they are defently millita tanks that anyone can use as reduced effectiveness compared to std. that way if they want to continue tanking they have move into std to actually be threat. or tanks and thier modules in general could get increses in prices so they are not spamable and only PEOPLE WHO HAVE SKILLED INTO USEING TANKS. are able to effectivley field them. i mean. since when does a millita suit have the same ehp and stats as a proto suit minus the fitting and slots. cant tanks be like this as well. millita has less ehp and scan strength and is easier to deal with than std. good point but the player had to skilling to the ion cannon and the other pro mods so only the hull is MLT in that case its not a MLT tank its a Upgraded MLT tank. but unlike the STD,s its not OP still it just takes a little bit longer to go down under fire . and most forguns that know what there doing will hunt a MLT even covered in Pro because they know no madder what its not going to tank as hard as a STD tank so like i said MLT tanks are not OP only players who see them and dont know how to uses AV the rite way will say they are OP like most players said BO,s was OP even tho there weaker then Pro Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Yeeeuuuupppp KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 58	Posted - 2014.02.03 13:03:00 - [113] - Quote But but but I love my Sica... He loves driving over jihad jeeps and eating them, YUM. It's pretty fun going into a pub match, call in like 3 MLT tanks and just demolish the other teams. Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 397	Posted - 2014.02.03 13:08:00 - [114] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: But but but I love my Sica... He loves driving over jihad jeeps and eating them, YUM. It's pretty fun going into a pub match, call in like 3 MLT tanks and just demolish the other teams. im not saying dont btw there called BOMBCHUS !!!! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 529	Posted - 2014.02.03 13:49:00 - [115] - Quote MLT tanks are a pretty hot topic with tankers and non tankers alike. Do ambush, and you will know exactly what I'm talking about. I myself have been doing ambush rather exclusively, trying to just run the infantry game. More often than not, I'm forced to pull out a pro tank to clear the field of the somo's and sica's. Or any tank for that matter. Let's break the problem down. It's about the strength of a milita tank, given the SP investment (0), the insanely low price of milita tanks (spammable), and the power of the rail gun. So, you lose one slot, either a high slot or low slot, depending on the type. A sica for example has 2 highs and 2 lows. Regardless of PG/CPU restrictions, a sica can overcome them with the low slots. Imagine a blaster, running duel hardeners against infantry. The only thing that changes on hardeners as they scale up is the CD period. So 24 seconds up time at 60% resistance times 2. Immune to pretty much all AV while hardeners are up. But after that 24 to 48 seconds, LONG COOLDOWN. That's cool, back up and call another in, or lose it and call another one in. After all, it only cost you 60k for that single tank. How much is 60K? For me it's about 2 of my advanced dropsuits fitted up with a mix of ADV and Basic stuff. That is CHEAP. But the thing is, a MLT tank is nothing like a dropsuit. It's immune to small arms, and if fit for tank, immune to anything but a tank or forge gun. I think the biggest reason these are spammed so much is the incredibly low cost coupled with the incredible durability and power. But think about it will you, what happens when one side spams 6 MLT tanks out. You act like it's SO easy to destroy one, but have you ever tried as infantry. A single forge gunner is not going to typically clear the field of these tanks. Even 2 will be struggling, but even then have you ever been hit by a MLT forge gun or anything less than PRO. It tickles. This is a MLT tank we are talking and you need PRO weapons to take it out? And while you are focusing on the tanks with half your team because they are mowing you down, they are still running 10 dedicated infantry killers, and yr running around in AV. Do you not see how imbalanced this becomes? And no, I don't want to hear, oh well wait for hardeners, because I KNOW this is easy to work around. Given the cost, losing one isn't a problem, nor is calling in a fresh one. Yes, there are many ways AV can take out tanks, but do you expect every single person to spec into AV? Or that they can even use it against said tanks. Have you ever tried to AV down 6 blasters outside of your tank with AV? And the worst part is, it takes NO SP to be proficient in a MLT. Yes, something does need to be done with MLT (IE raise the cost). Nuff Said
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 398	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:05:00 - [116] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: MLT tanks are a pretty hot topic with tankers and non tankers alike. Do ambush, and you will know exactly what I'm talking about. I myself have been doing ambush rather exclusively, trying to just run the infantry game. More often than not, I'm forced to pull out a pro tank to clear the field of the somo's and sica's. Or any tank for that matter. Let's break the problem down. It's about the strength of a milita tank, given the SP investment (0), the insanely low price of milita tanks (spammable), and the power of the rail gun. So, you lose one slot, either a high slot or low slot, depending on the type. A sica for example has 2 highs and 2 lows. Regardless of PG/CPU restrictions, a sica can overcome them with the low slots. Imagine a blaster, running duel hardeners against infantry. The only thing that changes on hardeners as they scale up is the CD period. So 24 seconds up time at 60% resistance times 2. Immune to pretty much all AV while hardeners are up. But after that 24 to 48 seconds, LONG COOLDOWN. That's cool, back up and call another in, or lose it and call another one in. After all, it only cost you 60k for that single tank. How much is 60K? For me it's about 2 of my advanced dropsuits fitted up with a mix of ADV and Basic stuff. That is CHEAP. But the thing is, a MLT tank is nothing like a dropsuit. It's immune to small arms, and if fit for tank, immune to anything but a tank or forge gun. I think the biggest reason these are spammed so much is the incredibly low cost coupled with the incredible durability and power. But think about it will you, what happens when one side spams 6 MLT tanks out. You act like it's SO easy to destroy one, but have you ever tried as infantry. A single forge gunner is not going to typically clear the field of these tanks. Even 2 will be struggling, but even then have you ever been hit by a MLT forge gun or anything less than PRO. It tickles. This is a MLT tank we are talking and you need PRO weapons to take it out? And while you are focusing on the tanks with half your team because they are mowing you down, they are still running 10 dedicated infantry killers, and yr running around in AV. Do you not see how imbalanced this becomes? And no, I don't want to hear, oh well wait for hardeners, because I KNOW this is easy to work around. Given the cost, losing one isn't a problem, nor is calling in a fresh one. Yes, there are many ways AV can take out tanks, but do you expect every single person to spec into AV? Or that they can even use it against said tanks. Have you ever tried to AV down 6 blasters outside of your tank with AV? And the worst part is, it takes NO SP to be proficient in a MLT. Yes, something does need to be done with MLT (IE raise the cost). Yes i DO have AV toons ! yes i DO kill MLT tanks EZ when fighting mass tank spam you need to keep track on what tank your hunting most Vet AV players will uses the MAP and a Car to hunt down the tank and keep hounding the same tank to kill it ! its not hard rly 3 guys in AVD or Pro AV can wlak into a mach vsing over 6 MLT tanks and vi uses the map and cars they can out flank and trake and trap and kill one tank affter another ! you can use a dropship but a car is better as its fast cheep and being low to the ground you can uses the small hills and bumps in ever map to mask your car from tanks trying to shoot you! alot of 3 - 2 man AV teams will uses RE,s on the front of the car and have the player who did not drop the RE drive it they pull up behind the tank in a bottle neck leaveing the car just behind then tank and runing the the sides of the tank and open fire the the tank from cover most tanks will if the front is block or open ground will just back up raming the car doing lots of dam to its self or killing its self .... not only that using the rite AV helps too its its a sica FORGUN ! with AV nades when its in armor soma uses RE or AV nades to remove its shields then uses the SL ... Or just uses Forguns the back of soma theres a part that gives over 200% if hit with a forgun ! but lets say the tank got a way some how get in the car if its not blown up or recall a new one check the map wach the tank get in car follow the tank NOT chase it Follow w8 for the noob the thing he is same most will try to recall there tank not in the redline if they go in the red line take up a point over looking the tanks call in zone and w8 for the new tank the new tank will take 10-15 sec ot drop more then anuff time to blow it up ! or when it go,s to the redline fined the next tank and redo the atk this IS NOT the only way to kill a tank or MLT tank if its a MLT most will died as so as there jumped and yes i know i dint cover all the AV you can uses ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 399	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:24:00 - [117] - Quote rely guys your only hurting your self by nerfing MLT tank Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4363	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:25:00 - [118] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Why are there MILITIA TANKS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Why is there a MLT forge, but no MLT HMG? AND THIS, ladies and gentlemen , is the FIRST TIME I AGREE WITH SPKR4. There should be MLT EVERYTHING. The LACK of MLT Everything is what makes people spend SP in useless stuff to try them out. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 404	Posted - 2014.02.03 23:30:00 - [119] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Why are there MILITIA TANKS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! Why is there a MLT forge, but no MLT HMG? AND THIS, ladies and gentlemen , is the FIRST TIME I AGREE WITH SPKR4. There should be MLT EVERYTHING. The LACK of MLT Everything is what makes people spend SP in useless stuff to try them out. MLT RE,s too ??? rely dud rely ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 237	Posted - 2014.02.04 08:42:00 - [120] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. I'm willing to admit a few problems with tanks, but you're insane if you think that mlt prices and mods don't contribute heavily. The problems as I see them are : hardeners run for way too long in general making them always more useful than hp increasing modules (there is zero tactical use), railgun (and to a lesser extent missile) damage is absurd and is only further compounded by insane bonuses from damage mods (which should be cut down to 15-20%), tanks are very very fast (I think an operable speed would be about 23-25m/s before plates come in), hp increasing modules aren't worth fitting when they should really be the standard and hardeners the 'ohshit' button, dual repairer fits can be prettymuch invincible to light/less skilled av, tank costs are much too cheap (I understand that no one wants to go 6 battles to buy one toy but I think the costs of hulls & large turrets need to go up), tank versus tank right now falls into 'who saw who first', blaster RoF is high enough that it allows spray and pray vs infantry. I would like to see health increasing modules be worth fitting (remember this slows down armor tanks and puts them in stand and deliver while shield tanks are supposed to be hit and run, hardeners length reduced promoting tactical use, the amount of repair on armor modules go down somewhat (meaning that you can repair incidental damage if a threat is dealt with but if you get beat back its time to find a supply depot), railgun damage lowered by about 250 and damage mods reduced to about 20%, and finally I would like to see blasters get a RoF reduction (but moderate damage increase) as well as an overall increase to cost on tanks to make them comparable or slightly more than an assault dropship for isk value. Tanks are in many ways much better than some previous patches but in other ways they're much worse - I think that we can make tanks better still but also have them be balanced and fun.

BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 410	Posted - 2014.02.04 10:29:00 - [121] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. I'm willing to admit a few problems with tanks, but you're insane if you think that mlt prices and mods don't contribute heavily. The problems as I see them are : hardeners run for way too long in general making them always more useful than hp increasing modules (there is zero tactical use), railgun (and to a lesser extent missile) damage is absurd and is only further compounded by insane bonuses from damage mods (which should be cut down to 15-20%), tanks are very very fast (I think an operable speed would be about 23-25m/s before plates come in), hp increasing modules aren't worth fitting when they should really be the standard and hardeners the 'ohshit' button, dual repairer fits can be prettymuch invincible to light/less skilled av, tank costs are much too cheap (I understand that no one wants to go 6 battles to buy one toy but I think the costs of hulls & large turrets need to go up), tank versus tank right now falls into 'who saw who first', blaster RoF is high enough that it allows spray and pray vs infantry. I would like to see health increasing modules be worth fitting (remember this slows down armor tanks and puts them in stand and deliver while shield tanks are supposed to be hit and run, hardeners length reduced promoting tactical use, the amount of repair on armor modules go down somewhat (meaning that you can repair incidental damage if a threat is dealt with but if you get beat back its time to find a supply depot), railgun damage lowered by about 250 and damage mods reduced to about 20%, and finally I would like to see blasters get a RoF reduction (but moderate damage increase) as well as an overall increase to cost on tanks to make them comparable or slightly more than an assault dropship for isk value. Tanks are in many ways much better than some previous patches but in other ways they're much worse - I think that we can make tanks better still but also have them be balanced and fun. Ok i smell newbe ! no re priceing will not help you no nerf batting railsguns and blasters will not fix the game no health increasing modules buff will fix tank warfare it will just go back to the old land drake/ Domi mission runner fits no speed nerfs will not make tanks fair youll see the amror one never being used at all unless a noob calls one in shields will be the only tank and redline camping go,s up ! like ccp said be for tanks are fine now there's some stuff to poke at still like the blaster ammo and how meany tanks can be in battle but that's it there still adding alot to the game and rite now they rely only working on the drop suits as for tanks get used to it this is dust not BF not COD not MW the AR guy is not your hero of the day ! its the guy holding the spawn up links in the scout suit the guys with the rep tool and nano hives the TD blowing up the blaster tank befor he can kill them the HMG holding the point and the other baster tank shuting down the other teams push to the HMG the FC yelling at the top of his lungs at everyone for anything !!! the eve player in space droping the OB then bugging out be for the red locks him ! the AR guy is you doing this or this calling in the OB or hacking the point. Dust 514 = Team EDIT : O yeah forgot something els Armor tanks need to go Slower then shield tanks but turn faster Shield tanks need to be faster but turn slower armor tanks are the real hit and run tank with the speed it has shields with the 3 60% or 2 with a booster and turning speed is more of a stand and fight tank. Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 530	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:50:00 - [122] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. I'm willing to admit a few problems with tanks, but you're insane if you think that mlt prices and mods don't contribute heavily. The problems as I see them are : hardeners run for way too long in general making them always more useful than hp increasing modules (there is zero tactical use), railgun (and to a lesser extent missile) damage is absurd and is only further compounded by insane bonuses from damage mods (which should be cut down to 15-20%), tanks are very very fast (I think an operable speed would be about 23-25m/s before plates come in), hp increasing modules aren't worth fitting when they should really be the standard and hardeners the 'ohshit' button, dual repairer fits can be prettymuch invincible to light/less skilled av, tank costs are much too cheap (I understand that no one wants to go 6 battles to buy one toy but I think the costs of hulls & large turrets need to go up), tank versus tank right now falls into 'who saw who first', blaster RoF is high enough that it allows spray and pray vs infantry. I would like to see health increasing modules be worth fitting (remember this slows down armor tanks and puts them in stand and deliver while shield tanks are supposed to be hit and run, hardeners length reduced promoting tactical use, the amount of repair on armor modules go down somewhat (meaning that you can repair incidental damage if a threat is dealt with but if you get beat back its time to find a supply depot), railgun damage lowered by about 250 and damage mods reduced to about 20%, and finally I would like to see blasters get a RoF reduction (but moderate damage increase) as well as an overall increase to cost on tanks to make them comparable or slightly more than an assault dropship for isk value. Tanks are in many ways much better than some previous patches but in other ways they're much worse - I think that we can make tanks better still but also have them be balanced and fun. Ok i smell newbe ! no re priceing will not help you no nerf batting railsguns and blasters will not fix the game no health increasing modules buff will fix tank warfare it will just go back to the old land drake/ Domi mission runner fits no speed nerfs will not make tanks fair youll see the amror one never being used at all unless a noob calls one in shields will be the only tank and redline camping go,s up ! like ccp said be for tanks are fine now there's some stuff to poke at still like the blaster ammo and how meany tanks can be in battle but that's it there still adding alot to the game and rite now they rely only working on the drop suits as for tanks get used to it this is dust not BF not COD not MW the AR guy is not your hero of the day ! its the guy holding the spawn up links in the scout suit the guys with the rep tool and nano hives the TD blowing up the blaster tank befor he can kill them the HMG holding the point and the other baster tank shuting down the other teams push to the HMG the FC yelling at the top of his lungs at everyone for anything !!! the eve player in space droping the OB then bugging out be for the red locks him ! the AR guy is you doing this or this calling in the OB or hacking the point. Dust 514 = Team EDIT : O yeah forgot something els Armor tanks need to go Slower then shield tanks but turn faster Shield tanks need to be faster but turn slower armor tanks are the real hit and run tank with the speed it has shields with the 3 60% or 2 with a booster and turning speed is more of a stand and fight tank. All I can say to you bad furry, enjoy it while it lasts. Just because YOU can't see anything wrong with tanks, doesn't mean problems don't exist. You simply won't acknowledge them. Nuff Said
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 530	Posted - 2014.02.04 12:57:00 - [123] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! This coming from the tanker that's a big fan of redline railing. Which I suggest you stick with, rolling with the big boys isn't your thing And zomg, you run guns on your tank from the redline. EPIC FAIL LOL omg you have braindamage or something ?? or did my tank not just roll over your teams tanks in 3 PC battles in a row ! then only way you stop us is to call A E and they o most lost with 2 Mcc ticks leth ! LOL heres the sad thing it was Your tank that camped the redline in all 3 games but yeah bro dont talk what you cant back up! most of the time i died i was on your side of the map with your guys in the redline ... BTW Stop calling your tanks out in the open infront of my tank/team unless your trying to give us free kills/points! and if thats the case just hand over all you Clay to us you dont look like you need it ! Hah, man you are such a scrub. I send you GG back just to not be a ****, but after seeing your "post" here, I know I can safely ignore those messages for now. Perhaps you have forgotten the games I outright owned your tank. Or how about anytime you want to roll out of your redline, I'm always there to beat you down. I found it very much funny, that when I ran into your redline, you actually backed up, WAY up. I was like seriously, you are going to hide back there. But it's ok man, I did that at one time. Back when I was learning to tank, I redlined sniped. Then I got good. Waiting on some more tank changes, so it can go back to being a skilled class, and not this easy I WIN button it has become. Nuff Said
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 410	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:42:00 - [124] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: 2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! This coming from the tanker that's a big fan of redline railing. Which I suggest you stick with, rolling with the big boys isn't your thing And zomg, you run guns on your tank from the redline. EPIC FAIL LOL omg you have braindamage or something ?? or did my tank not just roll over your teams tanks in 3 PC battles in a row ! then only way you stop us is to call A E and they o most lost with 2 Mcc ticks leth ! LOL heres the sad thing it was Your tank that camped the redline in all 3 games but yeah bro dont talk what you cant back up! most of the time i died i was on your side of the map with your guys in the redline ... BTW Stop calling your tanks out in the open infront of my tank/team unless your trying to give us free kills/points! and if thats the case just hand over all you Clay to us you dont look like you need it ! Hah, man you are such a scrub. I send you GG back just to not be a ****, but after seeing your "post" here, I know I can safely ignore those messages for now. Perhaps you have forgotten the games I outright owned your tank. Or how about anytime you want to roll out of your redline, I'm always there to beat you down. I found it very much funny, that when I ran into your redline, you actually backed up, WAY up. I was like seriously, you are going to hide back there. But it's ok man, I did that at one time. Back when I was learning to tank, I redlined sniped. Then I got good. Waiting on some more tank changes, so it can go back to being a skilled class, and not this easy I WIN button it has become. looks like it is braindamage ! LOL whats even more funnier about your post is you guys spam tanks and call them in the open on top of a hill in the open driving in mass is the only way you had a remote chance in hell of breaking out of your red line and saving your home point ! hell id talk to your tank FC he even said working with you and the other tankers that are Better then YOU ! is like training cats to swim ! Maybe its why you guys are lossing your PC,s you got ONE that,s ONE good Tanker and his your FC for tanks and that all from Big Burns "it,s bad when your tank can get that far . I,m teaching them though . we,ll see if they LISTEN to my Advice." I can GO ON WITH THE MAIL CHAT I HAD WITH HIM !!! but i got rep for burns as a WoT FC i know how hard it can be working with want to be tankers and yes if i i was your teams FC for tanks id keep you for pub battles at best ! but if you need to know why you got some kills on me its because as a FC im only sending in a tank to scout the other teams redline or for other tanks in the citys that is the most cheapish tank MINE ! and seeing how i am the FC for tanks ya ill call what i have eyes on for my Other tanks to kill if i cant not.. saving there tanks so the team still has tanks on the map all the time holding down points and killing other tanks and drop suits ! but here,s the funny thing if you add up all them tanks YOU and your team mates have jumped out off that we have blown up! ALOT more tanks then all you guys put together on avg are tankers have a 3 tank kills to a loss ! your guys is a 1 for 1 unless its Big burns then his is a 3 for 1 . Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
ghjht543 3 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:46:00 - [125] - Quote Atiim wrote: I think this describes the OP. Why do I need small turrets when I'm soloing the enemy team? It makes no sense. if you want to solo a team, don't use militia. Simple ~ As ~ That
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 410	Posted - 2014.02.04 13:51:00 - [126] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Let's be honest Bad Furry is right, mlt tanks aren't the problem Tanks in general are the problem. I'm willing to admit a few problems with tanks, but you're insane if you think that mlt prices and mods don't contribute heavily. The problems as I see them are : hardeners run for way too long in general making them always more useful than hp increasing modules (there is zero tactical use), railgun (and to a lesser extent missile) damage is absurd and is only further compounded by insane bonuses from damage mods (which should be cut down to 15-20%), tanks are very very fast (I think an operable speed would be about 23-25m/s before plates come in), hp increasing modules aren't worth fitting when they should really be the standard and hardeners the 'ohshit' button, dual repairer fits can be prettymuch invincible to light/less skilled av, tank costs are much too cheap (I understand that no one wants to go 6 battles to buy one toy but I think the costs of hulls & large turrets need to go up), tank versus tank right now falls into 'who saw who first', blaster RoF is high enough that it allows spray and pray vs infantry. I would like to see health increasing modules be worth fitting (remember this slows down armor tanks and puts them in stand and deliver while shield tanks are supposed to be hit and run, hardeners length reduced promoting tactical use, the amount of repair on armor modules go down somewhat (meaning that you can repair incidental damage if a threat is dealt with but if you get beat back its time to find a supply depot), railgun damage lowered by about 250 and damage mods reduced to about 20%, and finally I would like to see blasters get a RoF reduction (but moderate damage increase) as well as an overall increase to cost on tanks to make them comparable or slightly more than an assault dropship for isk value. Tanks are in many ways much better than some previous patches but in other ways they're much worse - I think that we can make tanks better still but also have them be balanced and fun. Ok i smell newbe ! no re priceing will not help you no nerf batting railsguns and blasters will not fix the game no health increasing modules buff will fix tank warfare it will just go back to the old land drake/ Domi mission runner fits no speed nerfs will not make tanks fair youll see the amror one never being used at all unless a noob calls one in shields will be the only tank and redline camping go,s up ! like ccp said be for tanks are fine now there's some stuff to poke at still like the blaster ammo and how meany tanks can be in battle but that's it there still adding alot to the game and rite now they rely only working on the drop suits as for tanks get used to it this is dust not BF not COD not MW the AR guy is not your hero of the day ! its the guy holding the spawn up links in the scout suit the guys with the rep tool and nano hives the TD blowing up the blaster tank befor he can kill them the HMG holding the point and the other baster tank shuting down the other teams push to the HMG the FC yelling at the top of his lungs at everyone for anything !!! the eve player in space droping the OB then bugging out be for the red locks him ! the AR guy is you doing this or this calling in the OB or hacking the point. Dust 514 = Team EDIT : O yeah forgot something els Armor tanks need to go Slower then shield tanks but turn faster Shield tanks need to be faster but turn slower armor tanks are the real hit and run tank with the speed it has shields with the 3 60% or 2 with a booster and turning speed is more of a stand and fight tank. All I can say to you bad furry, enjoy it while it lasts. Just because YOU can't see anything wrong with tanks, doesn't mean problems don't exist. You simply won't acknowledge them. I won't acknowledge them.because there NOT a problem ! unless your a sad sad puppy Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 530	Posted - 2014.02.04 14:35:00 - [127] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: looks like it is braindamage ! LOL whats even more funnier about your post is you guys spam tanks and call them in the open on top of a hill in the open driving in mass is the only way you had a remote chance in hell of breaking out of your red line and saving your home point ! hell id talk to your tank FC he even said working with you and the other tankers that are Better then YOU ! is like training cats to swim ! Maybe its why you guys are lossing your PC,s you got ONE that,s ONE good Tanker and his your FC for tanks and that all from Big Burns "it,s bad when your tank can get that far . I,m teaching them though . we,ll see if they LISTEN to my Advice." I can GO ON WITH THE MAIL CHAT I HAD WITH HIM !!! but i got rep for burns as a WoT FC i know how hard it can be working with want to be tankers and yes if i i was your teams FC for tanks id keep you for pub battles at best ! but if you need to know why you got some kills on me its because as a FC im only sending in a tank to scout the other teams redline or for other tanks in the citys that is the most cheapish tank MINE ! and seeing how i am the FC for tanks ya ill call what i have eyes on for my Other tanks to kill if i cant not.. saving there tanks so the team still has tanks on the map all the time holding down points and killing other tanks and drop suits ! but here,s the funny thing if you add up all them tanks YOU and your team mates have jumped out off that we have blown up! ALOT more tanks then all you guys put together on avg are tankers have a 3 tank kills to a loss ! your guys is a 1 for 1 unless its Big burns then his is a 3 for 1 . Ah yes, Big Burns, and no, he WAS NOT A TANK FC. He was a tanker, and yeah a good one at that. He had idea's on how to work that map, as we all do. And yr a "Tank FC", good to know. (though I can hardly believe it with such poor grammar and communication skills) Burns, while a good tanker, wasn't big on the big picture nor taking orders he didn't agree with. He had one tactic and only one tactic that he expected everyone to do. I never once saw any versatility to it, and when things didn't pan out like he "expected" them to, he had nothing to fall back on, and blamed it on us. That's all I got to say on Burns. But see furry, every dog has his days, and you had yours. I assure you, it is the last time that will ever happen. It's good to see that you have such a large ego. Learning a bit about your intelligence (or lack of), and your place on the battlefield will be of use I assure you. And GG on using the redline as protection, while saying it's because you are FC and need to see the whole battlefield. That would make sense, you know, if you had clear vis of the battlefield from the ground spawn on that map, but it's blocked rather well. So I take it as bullshit, lol. Enjoy your "win" while it lasts, same with tanks you truly believe aren't OP. It tells me that you REALLY don't understand tanking. But hey, I'll give you this, you guys did win. **** happens, and I won't tell you what happened that night, but I can assure you it won't happen again. Gl next time, you will NEED it. Nuff Said


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