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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:33:00 -
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as far as tank spam i think CCP should give out more isk for MLT tank kills just saying .
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4302
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:59:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap.There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. there not powerful and they cheap for new players to try out tanking if your standing in front of one with a blaster or see one and dont call it out to the team or get real AV then its not the tanks fault ! its yours !
Let me see: GÖª Call in Sica with Blaster (if no enemy tanks) or Rail turret. GÖª Own everything without much problem. GÖª Not even FG present a threat to me GÖª If another tank (the only true threat) appears i try to take him town, i have 2 shield hardeners that work pretty neet GÖª If im getting outgunned and feel i wont win , i activate my ARMOR Hardener, i jump off my Sica, and recall.It only takes like 2 seconds. GÖª I try to take out the tank on foot with my Sentinel BPO and DAU. GÖª If i die, i only loose 1 DAU ASsault FG.
Seems PRETTY POWERFUL TO ME.
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
695
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Posted - 2014.02.02 02:49:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage.
A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
897
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Posted - 2014.02.02 02:52:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:get real AV and what exactly do you call real AV I did
doesn't answer the question
you said use real av. i asked you "what exactly do you call real av", as in, what in your eyes do you see as real av. this is what we all want to know because apparently you are the only person in dust who has any
I will logi the s* out of you
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
388
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:00:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap.There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. there not powerful and they cheap for new players to try out tanking if your standing in front of one with a blaster or see one and dont call it out to the team or get real AV then its not the tanks fault ! its yours ! Let me see: GÖª Call in Sica with Blaster (if no enemy tanks) or Rail turret. GÖª Own everything without much problem. GÖª Not even FG present a threat to me GÖª If another tank (the only true threat) appears i try to take him town, i have 2 shield hardeners that work pretty neet GÖª If im getting outgunned and feel i wont win , i activate my ARMOR Hardener, i jump off my Sica, and recall.It only takes like 2 seconds. GÖª I try to take out the tank on foot with my Sentinel BPO and DAU. GÖª If i die, i only loose 1 DAU ASsault FG. Seems PRETTY POWERFUL TO ME.
Not even FG present a threat to me <----BS !! must have never been hit with with one ! GÖª If another tank (the only true threat) appears i try to take him town, i have 2 shield hardeners that work pretty neet <-- Noob thinks 2 60% are 120 % and lets not for get diminishing marginal returns GÖª If im getting outgunned and feel i wont win , i activate my ARMOR Hardener, i jump off my Sica, and recall.It only takes like 2 seconds. <--- BS O your the kind that jump out at point black ? and you think your going to call your tank back ??? so tell us when do you give up and jump out at what hp ???
its its sad to see you post that anyone with in know in tanks knows your BSing everyone and that your not a REAL tanker and you DONT know what the heck your talking about
so to some up not only do you not know how to play the game your trying to BS your point and hope CCP and everyone falls for it .
Sorry this is Not COD or MW or BF get SP be smart with it and work as a team and youll fined out MLT tanks are not OP at all. or just keep playing how you are and think everything is a bout Puppys and there Pub games.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
388
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:03:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:get real AV and what exactly do you call real AV I did doesn't answer the question you said use real av. i asked you "what exactly do you call real av", as in, what in your eyes do you see as real av. this is what we all want to know because apparently you are the only person in dust who has any
Quote:but rely Forgun + MLT = dead tank on the rood same with a a well fitted AV AVD SL drop suit .
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1043
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:06:00 -
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MLT tanks are completely fine.
They die easy. Anyone can jump in them and make it somewhat relevant.
They are easy to kill and usually the only tank AV can kill.
They are the only answer to killing tankers who know anything... The best answer to another tank is a MLT tank.
When you nerf MLT tanks it won't make it better for Infantry but it will make it better for dedicated tankers. As they won't have to worry about anyone but dedicated tankers.
MLT tanks is not a problem in DUST they are a balance factor. |
Leezir
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:07:00 -
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Let's be honest...Armor Hardners are what make tanks overpowered |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
389
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:09:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone.
there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1129
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:10:00 -
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You have to look at it from a designpoint of view. Why have skills if we can just go ahead and have the item do fine without the skills?
This would be fine if CCP would shift its focus to selling permenant aur items rather than skill tree crap.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1044
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:12:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP.
That blame lies with CCP's battle Academy. Fact that there is no walk through to even using a MLT swarm launcher or forge gun in Academy shows you alot. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
389
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:12:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:MLT tanks are completely fine.
They die easy. Anyone can jump in them and make it somewhat relevant.
They are easy to kill and usually the only tank AV can kill.
They are the only answer to killing tankers who know anything... The best answer to another tank is a MLT tank.
When you nerf MLT tanks it won't make it better for Infantry but it will make it better for dedicated tankers. As they won't have to worry about anyone but dedicated tankers.
MLT tanks is not a problem in DUST they are a balance factor.
O my god someone thats knows what there saying LOOK PUPPYS LOOK AT THIS GOD !!!! NOW!
im sorry but rely this somes it all up you nerf MLT tanks your only messing up the game for players who are not skilled into tanks and yes AV do,s kill MLT and a lot of it !
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
389
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:15:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP. That blame lies with CCP's battle Academy. Fact that there is no walk through to even using a MLT swarm launcher or forge gun in Academy shows you alot.
this is sooo true you end up with players who run there 1st games in AR only suits thining its all they have to care about and BOOM MLT tank and they just stop sit down and cry ! all becus no one showed them how to fit a good AV dropsuit and the one you get for free is a sad sad SAD joke !
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1591
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:16:00 -
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is the legendary rail gun tanker playing this game again. O_O
i need to play against u XD.
<3.
Because a majority of ppl left r so bad it hurts. :(
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
390
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:24:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:is the legendary rail gun tanker playing this game again. O_O
i need to play against u XD.
<3.
Because a majority of ppl left r so bad it hurts. :(
same here miss the old guys players that know what skill was and what was needed to kill a tank in one or on foot i miss them days bad too
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
390
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:49:00 -
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they should block all players from the forums unless they have 500.000 war points or more
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
695
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Posted - 2014.02.02 03:51:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there good at Your not fooling anyone just because pub machs are filled with low skilled players most dont even run AV or know how to skill in to them or uses them do,s not mean MLT are OP no its the players that suck at AV that makes them seem OP. They are pretty good at slaughtering infantry too....
My intention is not to fool anyone, that is what you are doing. Hardener, extender, and plates. That's all you need and it only has to be milita to boot. I'm not a good tank driver, I use to tank a little before uprising but gave it up yet I can still go 23-0 in a milita tank because I have the absolute base understanding of them.
During my trial of the milita tank I encountered plenty of AV, none of it really scared me or made me react any differently than usual, point and click. Unless there was a proto forge gun, then I had to get fancy and stop (on a dime) and roll backwards slightly. If they waited to ambush I would just throw on my hardener and drive away, yeah good luck charging that forge gun 3 times before I'm gone. Jihad jeeps? Easy, shoot them. Remote dets? Lol my tank is so fast, try catching it before I get my blaster on you scout. Swarm launchers? Hahahaha stop it that tickles! I watched 3 guys switch to adv swarms, one proto to try and stop me, their first volly was actually pretty good, then I killed one of them and the natural recharge easily tanked the other two, didn't even break a sweat. I felt very dirty, as should anyone who uses a tank.
The only real threat to a tank is another tank, and why bother using one of those when you can call in a milita that's just as effective but costs only a fifth of the std variant? You cannot tell me it requires skill to operate them effectively, as I don't have any skill at tanking and came top of the boards. The reason why most people don't run av anymore is because they know its pointless, unless you have proto and another guy with proto you may as well just run. At least with av you have to actually figure out how to skill into it, tanks require no investment to slaughter infantry and vehicles unopposed, they are skill less both in sp and actual player skill.
I think you completely missed this so I'll make it as clear as possible, a milita tank with milita mods is more cost effective, better tanked, and more powerful than an assault dropship with a full proto fit.
My sica cost, 90k. sp costs 0 My pythons cost, 707k. Sp cost (estimate) 400k to fly 6mil to be effective.
A milita sica with a milita rail gun and two milita damage mods can two shot my python in 1.2 seconds by simply holding down R1. That's faster than a module can even turn on.
Please try and tell me how that's not op. |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1593
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:09:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:they should block all players from the forums unless they have 500.000 war points or more they make u play 15 minutes before u can post.
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
392
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:49:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:they should block all players from the forums unless they have 500.000 war points or more they make u play 15 minutes before u can post. not good anuff when a player hits 500.000 war points they played the gamelong anuff to care about it .
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
4891
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap.There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR.
Sica with 3 gardeners?
Shows how much you know.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
392
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:12:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:look here post up the true story and just look at the puppys start crying guys rely get over it MLT tanks ARE Not OP so stop it you all look silly crying over it . They might not be op, but they are too powerful and too cheap.There is a problem when a Sica with 3 hardeners costs less than a creodon breach AR. Sica with 3 hardeners? Shows how much you know.
I love it when players who hate tanks because they want a AR game only get shut down
btw here,s the fun fact
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion <---- NPC corp do,s no PC Amarr Empire <----- even sadder
because you know we ALL should have to fix the game for players not in a real player run corp who only run pubs battles !
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SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
633
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:39:00 -
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I love Militia Tank spam. It gives me a reason to pull out my RE's again. So fun to run up to a tank and put down RE's and take it out.
So many people think tanks are OP that they go grab Militia tanks and think they can be powerful. Maybe against the average to bellow average player, yes, but man are they fun to hunt if you have experience fighting them. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
392
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:42:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:[quote=BAD FURRY]2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!! With my skills in vehicles I can easily fit a milita sica with a milita blaster hardener, extender and a basic pg upgrade and be unstoppable to anything short of a std tank or milita rail gun with damage mods. When I first tried this I took out 5 other milita tanks like it was cake. Infantry? Psh, milita blaster eats them. If you fit an enhanced pg extender then you can fit a turret, a complex gives you two. For the whopping price of 90k...... I can make more money running milita tanks than I can flying my proto fit assault dropship with close to max skills. Those run me 6-700k a pop and die in two shots to a milita rail tank faster than i can even turn on a modual, that costs less than an 8th of my dropship without me even being able to fly over him and engage. A milita tank, with milita mods, is better than my assault dropship, with a full proto fit.... Do you wonder why dropship pilots are hanging up their wings for a tank? I have even come to the realization that the beat way to make my money back is to drive a tank. I hate that....so the complaints are justified, please don't try and tell me milita tanks aren't horribly out of balance, you aren't fooling anyone. there cheep thats all there ................................................................ During my trial of the milita tank I encountered plenty of AV, none of it really scared me or made me react any differently than usual, point and click. Unless there was a proto forge gun, then I had to get fancy and stop (on a dime) and roll backwards slightly. If they waited to ambush I would just throw on my hardener and drive away, yeah good luck charging that forge gun 3 times before I'm gone. Jihad jeeps? Easy, shoot them. Remote dets? Lol my tank is so fast, try catching it before I get my blaster on you scout. Swarm launchers? Hahahaha stop it that tickles! I watched 3 guys switch to adv swarms, one proto to try and stop me.......................................... Please try and tell me how that's not op.
See your in a Pub battle no duh! the other guys cant stop you ! hell i even bet most of them are runing around in the open on foot being shot at by you guys! So no dude you runing pub battles and crushing noobs do,s not make the MLT tanks OP and you cant use the python because its a drop ship! Not A TANK! its not meant to take on AV fire like a tank so duh there 500.000 isk a pop They Fing FLY ! and kill stuff and can drop troops off behind the other team where a tank would have to drive if not plow tho the other team !
how bout you take your worlds and put them into a PC battle and then come tell me you ran off with 24/0 No rely DO A PC BATTLE only useing them I want to know cuz from what i see MLT tanks are junk vsing players who KNOW what they are doing with AV.
hears something you can think about what if T2 tanks and then T3! care to tell me how BS it is in a pub mach to know there's tanks coming SOON tm that Cant Be KILLED !!unless hit with another tank or jet ???
and yes i can see it now puppys crying over getting T3 stomped because they think the world of dust is all about PUB BATTLES !
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
392
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:44:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:I love Militia Tank spam. It gives me a reason to pull out my RE's again. So fun to run up to a tank and put down RE's and take it out.
So many people think tanks are OP that they go grab Militia tanks and think they can be powerful. Maybe against the average to bellow average player, yes, but man are they fun to hunt if you have experience fighting them.
I give you Beer ! thank you !
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
384
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Posted - 2014.02.02 12:59:00 -
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ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
392
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Posted - 2014.02.02 13:18:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price
Ummm No !
we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing !
and like i said Pub battles dont count !
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4319
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Posted - 2014.02.02 15:24:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price Ummm No ! we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing ! and like i said Pub battles dont count ! And let me guess, PC is all that does count?
First off, only a very small part of the playerbase participates in PC, and only a small part of the playerbase could participate in Planetary Conquest if they wanted to.
Furthermore, balance around the Planetary Conquest game-mode implies that everyone is running Prototype and Officer gear 24/7.
If you are going to allow something to be balanced in one gamemode, but not another; then do not allow them to be in said gamemode (Basically, if you won't balance them around PUBs, then remove them from PUBs)
I think these guys also covered that point in another thread:
DUST Fiend wrote:PC is too small of a sample size, considering not only do so few play it, so few even CAN play it. You just wind up with a few set styles of play that generally stick, and you don't really get the bigger picture of overall balance.
Tanks themselves are fairly balanced, it's red line abuse and militia tank abuse that are causing issues in the general population, and I would not be remotely surprised to see dedicated red line rail tanks in PC matches that literally never ever leave their post.
I think a lot of PC players are putting too much value in their "status" and failing to see that it's the same game with more coordination. The mechanics don't change, it's just that you generally have an entire team working together and everyone just uses what's statistically strongest not because they're interested in the balance of the game, but because they're interested in winning that match.
Surt gods end wrote:You can't shape this game out of something as exclusive as PC. To many factors plays into why it is exclusive and great team corp is not one of em. or I should say only reason. CB has proven to be the better judgment of strong teams. Without the VIP treatment.
PC players are about 5% of this game's playerbase. Anyone saying that something should be balanced around what almost nobody plays clearly has no credibility in a balance discussion
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Tebu Gan
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BAD FURRY wrote:2 mid 2 low low CPU low PG and to top it off the low cpu and pg means you cant run small guns on the thing with out cutting back on rep or def rely guys crying over MLT tanks is Lame EPIC LAME !!!!!
This coming from the tanker that's a big fan of redline railing. Which I suggest you stick with, rolling with the big boys isn't your thing
And zomg, you run guns on your tank from the redline.
EPIC FAIL
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Tebu Gan
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Posted - 2014.02.02 15:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:ive gone through maybe 100 tanks since 1.7, NEVER lost any to AV infantry, only to railguns across the map, get rid of militia tanks, but normal tanks and little and give them a super high price Ummm No ! we when over this read back some taking out MLT tanks only hurts the game and players and price them hi only hurts the game more as well when you have only good tankers and player who could be good tankers not even skill into them do to the price of failing ! and like i said Pub battles dont count ! And let me guess, PC is all that does count? First off, only a very small part of the playerbase participates in PC, and only a small part of the playerbase could participate in Planetary Conquest if they wanted to. Furthermore, balance around the Planetary Conquest game-mode implies that everyone is running Prototype and Officer gear 24/7. If you are going to allow something to be balanced in one gamemode, but not another; then do not allow them to be in said gamemode (Basically, if you won't balance them around PUBs, then remove them from PUBs) I think these guys also covered that point in another thread: DUST Fiend wrote:PC is too small of a sample size, considering not only do so few play it, so few even CAN play it. You just wind up with a few set styles of play that generally stick, and you don't really get the bigger picture of overall balance.
Tanks themselves are fairly balanced, it's red line abuse and militia tank abuse that are causing issues in the general population, and I would not be remotely surprised to see dedicated red line rail tanks in PC matches that literally never ever leave their post.
I think a lot of PC players are putting too much value in their "status" and failing to see that it's the same game with more coordination. The mechanics don't change, it's just that you generally have an entire team working together and everyone just uses what's statistically strongest not because they're interested in the balance of the game, but because they're interested in winning that match.
Surt gods end wrote:You can't shape this game out of something as exclusive as PC. To many factors plays into why it is exclusive and great team corp is not one of em. or I should say only reason. CB has proven to be the better judgment of strong teams. Without the VIP treatment.
PC players are about 5% of this game's playerbase. Anyone saying that something should be balanced around what almost nobody plays clearly has no credibility in a balance discussion [/thread]
I liken PC to what endgame. Every single person is running every bit of proto they have. So yes, balancing from a PC perspective and not from a PUB perspective is a good idea. Teams are balanced in the sense of gear unlike PUBS, so please attim tell me, how is that not a balanced perspective.
Yes PC is exclusive, but it IS endgame.
To compare, Pubs are like PvP Battlegrounds in WoW. Sure you can try to balance things around everything below level 59, but the level 60's battlegrounds is the endgame of PVP. Everyone has the opportunity to use the BEST gear, and have the BEST and Max skills.
The problem with dust, NO ******* ENDGAME aside from PC that is mostly locked up all the time.
Nuff Said
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Tebu Gan
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Posted - 2014.02.02 15:55:00 -
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Tanks - A real balance thread
Tanks - Balancing turrets
Oh, and here are some REAL tank balancing threads. Read and learn.
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