Yes, but that is one of the causes of the problem. You have the people who stick it out, get really good and have the best equipment staying and every new player comes in as the minority and gets stomped. It is fun when you all know what you are doing, it is fun when no one knows what they are doing. It is miserable or boring when you mix the two, especially when the former outnumber the latter.

I personally feel like the hardest thing for veterans is that we got excited and liked a game that had a high TTK and required a ton of skill aiming. It wasn't an easy game and if you liked that you stayed and became more and more invested.
Unfortunately, the Dust I play today isn't the same as it was..... I actually really prefer some of the earlier builds and I kind of feel like the game isn't one I particularly love anymore. I hate the low TTK thing where whoever starts shooting first wins. I hate the "fixed" aim assist. I hate the fact that one person playing as an infantry has no hope of killing one person playing in a tank.

The changes are not going in the direction I like and if CCP keeps it up I will be gone also.
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The biggest issue is their versioning. Beta is almost always under 1.0. So it should really be something like:

Dust 514 0.9.1.8

When open beta started I got all my friends I've been gaming with for 4+ years to hop on and they stuck around for pretty much all of Chromosome. When Uprising hit they left so you know what I did? I made new friends


Yeah Dust has me that emotionally invested. I strongly believe in this game so that's just what I've become. Of course I still game with my old buddies from time to time, but I'm also having a blast with the new buddies I've made from Dust. So that's my suggestion - make new friends in Dust who are just as invested into this game as you are.

Come squad with me homie!

I got buddies leaving the game that I never thought would be leaving, apparently they were secretly getting sick of it, there's still plenty of people to squad with but not really anyone I'm excited to get on and screw around with, and they're pretty much the only reason I play besides the SP...changes have to happen when good people who have invested a ton of time and money are capable of just picking up and leaving. I like that this game is unique to the realm of FPS but really...ya have to take some hints from other games like battlefield or mag, not because of how successful they are or their player base but just because no-one had a problem with them in terms of balancing.

I've never heard anyone on any other multiplayer shooter, first or third person, that has complained about a gun being OP, and maybe that's because of the economy but it's to the point where people are getting frustrated and quitting and that's just poor game design, games that are difficult and challenging aren't bad, games that are frustrating and punishing aren't going to be very liked.

Honestly I think this game should've started with PVE and then worked in the competitive mode later, people can't get frustrated with the game when the AI are built correctly.

I have seen far more complaints and threats in other games though.

This doesn't have anything to do with it being a console game, I've played damn good games on this thing, I'd pay to bring back the old mgo and that came out in '08, ps3 has sufficient hardware to run shooters maybe not as good as PC but functional, and I'm getting annoyed with having games these days that just don't function properly. This game actually works most of the time it's just what the game provides that needs work.

What we need is to support the solid group of dedicated players who offer constructive ideas.

There is too much bickering about buffs and nerfs when I think we need to focus on coming up with different ideas and unique solutions. I propose HERE that the issue of HAV spam might be lightened if the HAV was operated similarly to the LAV.

If the driver cannot attack without switching positions, then must switch back to retreat, it may reduce the amount of solo players fielding HAVs.

I'm new to all this. Barely have over 750K SP so it's a bit disheartening to hear of guys with so much more time and money invested just up and leave. :/

I have seen far more complaints and threats in other games though.

You'll have to point me to them because I've never seen it happen, then again I usually play with a tight group of people but I haven't seen people just up and leave unless the game was truly dead or unsustainable and stagnant, I can understand it if it's just not your type of game like I could never get into call of duty but I've seen a significant amount of people that had a real interest in this game and got enjoyment and were just suddenly like "nah im done"

OP you just outed youself as a casual gamer

bf3: famas, m16a3, and the oh so famous usas+12g frags, ME3: typhoon(nerfed, and for good measure the devs nerfed it a second and third timr(indirectly)), krysae (nerfed below sea level), piranha

I don't know about CoD because I refuse to play it.

Yeah, good luck sticking with this game, Asterion.

You're going to have a helluva lot harder time reaching 26 million skill points than me, since I didn't have to deal with proto-powered gods everywhere during the closed-beta days. Back then, we Dust 514 players were far more numerous, and far less powerful.

As for introducing PVE first let me remind of a game that did pve without pvp first.

SW:TOR

Look how well that worked for them despite the excessively high quality of the PVE.

As for introducing PVE first let me remind of a game that did pve without pvp first.

SW:TOR

Look how well that worked for them despite the excessively high quality of the PVE.

As for introducing PVE first let me remind of a game that did pve without pvp first.

SW:TOR

Look how well that worked for them despite the excessively high quality of the PVE.

other games aren't limited by 4k players at peak

Being on a console really doesn't mean much for the lifespan of Dust because it is fundamentally different than any other console game, or shooter for that matter, that has ever been released. Dust will be here 10 years from now, just not on the PS3. At some point this will become a cross platform game. I might be playing on my PS3, you on a PS4 and some other dude on his PC. All in the same match, using the same characters and isk that were created a year ago when we moved to Tranquility. When Dust gets released on a new platform it'll probably be just like it was a brand new game.

People will also play Dust longer than other shooters because they've been looking for that sense of permanence, impact and meaningfulness of fights. I started playing shooters in 1996 and the way I played was kind of ridiculous. I'd be playing sometimes until the sun came up. But the last shooter I played seriously was Battlefield 2142, which was a fantastic game. In the end I wound up quitting because I got to a point where I learned all the little tricks you could pull with the maps, unlocked all the weapons and was working on getting all the obscure little badges. Like playing entire matches using only my pistol. There simply wasn't any reason to fight those battles anymore. Dust's link to Eve will give people a reason. The link is small now, but over time it'll grow and we'll all look at the people running instant pub matches like Eve players do at high-sec miners and mission runners - people who aren't experiencing the game as it is meant to be played.

I get where you're at, you're burned out. It happened to me for a few weeks, and it happened to a lot of people in my corp. You just need a space-vacation when it happens. Most people come back after they've gone and played some other games for a month or two. I think the active SP system sort of drives us to the burnout stage, since right now developing your character is the only big goal and if you're not playing every night you're "wasting your cap".