I have seen far more complaints and threats in other games though.

Battlefield 4 is just about to have a big patch where the mighty nerf bat is going to be wielded to balance OP weapons. Battlefield 3 had many little changes to weapon stats over its life span, even then at the end there were still people shouting about some weapons being OP. This is just 2 games from the same franchise!

Its everywhere same, if something is implemented and its "too powerful" people just start complain.
That normal reaction.
About PVEi really dont know how long we must wait, but it will be (by my side of view) really long one.
They just start drafting people for AI programing.
Actually i left game many many times, i start from scratch i thing five times?!
And thats not good sign.
Hell i dont want tell something like game is bad, game is mediocre but i still believe CCP will take better way and improve it.
They just need to take a look on progresion and start with it.
Right now i still feeling myself like in beta, how they trying thingies it feels like they still dont know how, like they are lost.
But i still believe.

I had another point to make that related to this, forgot to include it, it's really bad when I recommend my friends don't start playing this game because of how brutal the NPE is, I know the CPM is working on it but that's a huge problem when the players themselves are a bar of entry.

I have seen far more complaints and threats in other games though.

I got buddies leaving the game that I never thought would be leaving, apparently they were secretly getting sick of it, there's still plenty of people to squad with but not really anyone I'm excited to get on and screw around with, and they're pretty much the only reason I play besides the SP...changes have to happen when good people who have invested a ton of time and money are capable of just picking up and leaving. I like that this game is unique to the realm of FPS but really...ya have to take some hints from other games like battlefield or mag, not because of how successful they are or their player base but just because no-one had a problem with them in terms of balancing.

I've never heard anyone on any other multiplayer shooter, first or third person, that has complained about a gun being OP, and maybe that's because of the economy but it's to the point where people are getting frustrated and quitting and that's just poor game design, games that are difficult and challenging aren't bad, games that are frustrating and punishing aren't going to be very liked.

Honestly I think this game should've started with PVE and then worked in the competitive mode later, people can't get frustrated with the game when the AI are built correctly.

First, I think it is more healthy to move on from a game then it is to play a single game for an extended period of time.

Second, Join them! Find another game you guys can play together. So many games out there and some to be released as well. You can co-op Reaper of Souls in a couple of months. You can compare scores and using a social networking type thing for FFXIII-3, you can co-op borderlands, Dead Space 3 was a fun Co Op. GW2 is a fun MMO. Plenty of games!

I'm new to all this. Barely have over 750K SP so it's a bit disheartening to hear of guys with so much more time and money invested just up and leave. :/

I took a break and came back after ~3 months. It was disappointing to see how little the game changed in that time, but now 1.8 is coming with suit parity, so that's exciting. The game honestly is good enough on it's own, as it stands, to be worth playing. Especially for free.

I also think CCP is going to power forward and keep making the game better and better. Unfortunately, being a console exclusive, the biggest problem I see is generating interest over time. The release already happened a year ago. So... assume the game really is much better next year (full player market, PvE, mercs on EVE player transports, salvaging destroyed ships, etc...) how do you get 3000 more people to buy into a 2 year old game? Especially on a platform that is already one foot in the grave.

I'm new to all this. Barely have over 750K SP so it's a bit disheartening to hear of guys with so much more time and money invested just up and leave. :/

Did you know that Eve Online was THIS bad at first. Give CCP a break, they'll get things done. I guess I'm just optimistic ....

Did you know that Eve Online was THIS bad at first. Give CCP a break, they'll get things done. I guess I'm just optimistic ....

The lifespan of a console game is much shorter though, with the highest intake of new players seen in the first 3 months, and the total player base rounding out around the 1 year mark on average. Core fans can keep a game alive for a few more years, but eventually the game dies.

Eve has been developed over many years, with PC players being more patient.
Dust has already exceeded its viable lifespan, as console gamers are far more used to having a finished product to play, rather than one that has been in extended beta since forever, and will continue to be so for many years to come.

If they would only state that the game is still in development, people would come back to it later. Instead you get this: "Dust? Oh yeah, i tried that a while back. Was sh*t so i deleted it."

Mind that a core of players just won't leave.

I got buddies leaving the game that I never thought would be leaving, apparently they were secretly getting sick of it, there's still plenty of people to squad with but not really anyone I'm excited to get on and screw around with, and they're pretty much the only reason I play besides the SP...changes have to happen when good people who have invested a ton of time and money are capable of just picking up and leaving. I like that this game is unique to the realm of FPS but really...ya have to take some hints from other games like battlefield or mag, not because of how successful they are or their player base but just because no-one had a problem with them in terms of balancing.

I've never heard anyone on any other multiplayer shooter, first or third person, that has complained about a gun being OP, and maybe that's because of the economy but it's to the point where people are getting frustrated and quitting and that's just poor game design, games that are difficult and challenging aren't bad, games that are frustrating and punishing aren't going to be very liked.

Honestly I think this game should've started with PVE and then worked in the competitive mode later, people can't get frustrated with the game when the AI are built correctly.