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843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 615	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:21:00 - [1] - Quote If you're wondering what I'm talking about, this thread has been active for a little while now and is still going strong, I advise checking it out. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137436 After over a week of bumping, 90 direct thread likes, 41 petition signatures and 15 solid pages of agreement and cheer I've FINALLY received an answer from.... IWS, the CPM. I fully appreciate his response and the acknowledgement from the CPM. However the rest of us may disagree with the comment made, this is progress. CCP HAVE read the plea and the thread, yet they refuse to comment or acknowledge it. I think we can show them why they should respond. Keep pushing, keep bumping, keep telling CCP what YOU want and what YOU think. After all, we are their customers. Isn't the customer always right? Corporation battles could save this game you know, or at least the competitive element. Bring back the fun, bring back the choice for US to call the shots on who we want to fight, when we want, for how much and for whatever motive. Gives us something to do other than proto stomp in public matches, right? Allow the newer corporations and players the ability to compete. Give them the choice that they don't have right now. PC is NOT viable for newer corporations. Thank you, keep supporting the thread o7 BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2244	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:24:00 - [2] - Quote Considering there are 15,000+ active dust members 41 is not that many people. Selling Rare Templar BPO's 250Mil ISK
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 615	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:26:00 - [3] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Considering there are 15,000+ active dust members 41 is not that many people. Nope, it's not. I know. But you know what that's still 41 people. And there definitely aren't 15,000 active forum readers. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 919	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:28:00 - [4] - Quote Bump! Signed and Whatever this Needs :)
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 922	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:32:00 - [5] - Quote Back on top
Mikey The Bandaid D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 142	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:34:00 - [6] - Quote We need corp battles! They were so much fun!
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 615	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:39:00 - [7] - Quote Bumping for visibility. Will be doing so throughout today and tomorrow then I'll leave it o7 BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:55:00 - [8] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Bumping for visibility. Will be doing so throughout today and tomorrow then I'll leave it o7 Been there done that lol
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 616	Posted - 2014.01.29 15:57:00 - [9] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Bumping for visibility. Will be doing so throughout today and tomorrow then I'll leave it o7 Been there done that lol And I thank you for your support :D We must all work together for this! Show CCP that we are a unified voice when it comes to corporation battles. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 926	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:11:00 - [10] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: NAV HIV wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Bumping for visibility. Will be doing so throughout today and tomorrow then I'll leave it o7 Been there done that lol And I thank you for your support :D We must all work together for this! Show CCP that we are a unified voice when it comes to corporation battles. But i guess we have to start another thread with NERF infront of it... That seems to do the work here

843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 618	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:13:00 - [11] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: 843-BANE wrote: NAV HIV wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Bumping for visibility. Will be doing so throughout today and tomorrow then I'll leave it o7 Been there done that lol And I thank you for your support :D We must all work together for this! Show CCP that we are a unified voice when it comes to corporation battles. But i guess we have to start another thread with NERF infront of it... That seems to do the work here Lmao, what I originally did was have a title like "SHOCKING QUOTE FROM CCP" Because that'll get the Devs running over here in their boxers. I didn't, however, want to ruin the image of what I want to achieve! x) BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 926	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:15:00 - [12] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: NAV HIV wrote: 843-BANE wrote: NAV HIV wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Bumping for visibility. Will be doing so throughout today and tomorrow then I'll leave it o7 Been there done that lol And I thank you for your support :D We must all work together for this! Show CCP that we are a unified voice when it comes to corporation battles. But i guess we have to start another thread with NERF infront of it... That seems to do the work here Lmao, what I originally did was have a title like "SHOCKING QUOTE FROM CCP" Because that'll get the Devs running over here in their boxers. I didn't, however, want to ruin the image of what I want to achieve! x) LOL Or you could say LEAKED CCP notes for 1.8
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 618	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:16:00 - [13] - Quote Paha, then all I'd receive is hate ;-) BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2797	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:19:00 - [14] - Quote a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ 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Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Give Corp Battles a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ Giv... "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 337	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:20:00 - [15] - Quote I seriously doubt corp battles will be reintroduced with PC in its current state. If you want real competition, PC is where CCP wants you. Corp battles would make PC and the current district locking less desirable to many corps. CCP is already facing a huge problem with the wealth PC corps are accumulating... Risk free. Corp battles would only make this problem worse as many corps would rather make money from winning corp battles then defending PC districts. You think Eve has a big blue donut... Dust PC would be worse.
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 96	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:21:00 - [16] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Considering there are 15,000+ active dust members 41 is not that many people. Actually, only about 3,000 ... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust FAME
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 621	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:23:00 - [17] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: I seriously doubt corp battles will be reintroduced with PC in its current state. If you want real competition, PC is where CCP wants you. Corp battles would make PC and the current district locking less desirable to many corps. CCP is already facing a huge problem with the wealth PC corps are accumulating... Risk free. Corp battles would only make this problem worse as many corps would rather make money from winning corp battles then defending PC districts. You think Eve has a big blue donut... Dust PC would be worse. The sad truth right here. However it does not change my views. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:25:00 - [18] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Isn't the customer always right? No. Oh my goodness, no. There aren't many more aggravating attitudes than a self-entitled consumer. Good products and good service != customer is always right. 843-BANE wrote: Corporation battles could save this game you know, or at least the competitive element. Bring back the fun, bring back the choice for US to call the shots on who we want to fight, when we want, for how much and for whatever motive. Gives us something to do other than proto stomp in public matches, right? Maybe this question would be better asked on your feedback thread, but isn't this what PC is about? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2327	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:26:00 - [19] - Quote Most of the front runners for CPM1 support Corporate Battles. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 96	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:27:00 - [20] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Jake Bloodworth wrote: I seriously doubt corp battles will be reintroduced with PC in its current state. If you want real competition, PC is where CCP wants you. Corp battles would make PC and the current district locking less desirable to many corps. CCP is already facing a huge problem with the wealth PC corps are accumulating... Risk free. Corp battles would only make this problem worse as many corps would rather make money from winning corp battles then defending PC districts. You think Eve has a big blue donut... Dust PC would be worse. The sad truth right here. However it does not change my views. Yea, I just want to play against a competent foe, with a competent team. I haven't joined a PC corp, but I kinda don't want to. I play casually and might not have "free" time to play a staged battle. Why can't we just set up our own engagements. Don't want to get stomped by cheese anymore. FAME

NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 932	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:27:00 - [21] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Jake Bloodworth wrote: I seriously doubt corp battles will be reintroduced with PC in its current state. If you want real competition, PC is where CCP wants you. Corp battles would make PC and the current district locking less desirable to many corps. CCP is already facing a huge problem with the wealth PC corps are accumulating... Risk free. Corp battles would only make this problem worse as many corps would rather make money from winning corp battles then defending PC districts. You think Eve has a big blue donut... Dust PC would be worse. The sad truth right here. However it does not change my views. They have stop that locking mechanism... Fix the lag... Fix the DC issues... Till then i'd stay away from it and would like to enjoy some no nonsense CORP vs CORP battles
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 932	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:44:00 - [22] - Quote Bump CCP
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 625	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:45:00 - [23] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Isn't the customer always right? No. Oh my goodness, no. There aren't many more aggravating attitudes than a self-entitled consumer. Good products and good service != customer is always right. 843-BANE wrote: Corporation battles could save this game you know, or at least the competitive element. Bring back the fun, bring back the choice for US to call the shots on who we want to fight, when we want, for how much and for whatever motive. Gives us something to do other than proto stomp in public matches, right? Maybe this question would be better asked on your feedback thread, but isn't this what PC is about? Normally I'd agree with you. However we are receiving quality below what we were promised, and I believe we are entitled to what we want on the game we pay and play. Of course we are entitled. The only reason Dust 514 lives is because of the people who play it. CCP lose customers every day because they ignore what the community wants in favour of some crappy EVE integration. We are gamers, and we are entitled to what we're promised - fun. It's what PC is SUPPOSED to be about. I mean, hell. In PC you can't call the shots, you can barely choose who you want to fight because of locking and availability and you are compulsed to fight on the terms (timers) set out by your opponent. And it is a question proposed on my thread, I place it to GD for further visibility. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:59:00 - [24] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: CCP lose customers every day because they ignore what the community wants in favour of some crappy EVE integration. We are gamers, and we are entitled to what we're promised - fun. Well, we'll have to disagree here then. See that inequality statement in my sig down there? I'm totally in favor of throwing any or every FPS convention out of the window if it means bringing integration with Eve Online. If you want a run-of-the-mill FPS (I don't mean moderate quality, I mean normal ideas), go over yonder to another game. That's my opinion. If that's how you get fun, then that's what you should do. Eve Online isn't for everyone, and I see no reason why Eve Dust514 should be any different. If all I wanted was sci-fi fps, I'd continue playing Halo. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2799	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:00:00 - [25] - Quote me without corp battles http://i.imgur.com/TnsFL5S.gif "The human brain named itself... :o" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficeiney 5 \o/
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2248	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:05:00 - [26] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Considering there are 15,000+ active dust members 41 is not that many people. Actually, only about 3,000 ... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust so you are saying the same 3,000 play the game for 24 hours a day everyday? Selling Rare Templar BPO's 250Mil ISK
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 937	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:09:00 - [27] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: 843-BANE wrote: CCP lose customers every day because they ignore what the community wants in favour of some crappy EVE integration. We are gamers, and we are entitled to what we're promised - fun. Well, we'll have to disagree here then. See that inequality statement in my sig down there? I'm totally in favor of throwing any or every FPS convention out of the window if it means bringing integration with Eve Online. If you want a run-of-the-mill FPS (I don't mean moderate quality, I mean normal ideas), go over yonder to another game. That's my opinion. If that's how you get fun, then that's what you should do. Eve Online isn't for everyone, and I see no reason why Eve Dust514 should be any different. If all I wanted was sci-fi fps, I'd continue playing Halo. FPS is still the Main focus in Dust. Eve integration is a great Feature. But right now it doesn't have any proper useful value.. Other than the fact that it's Cool... FW, good change, but could've been better. We could've seen changes made in the starmap and so on, received better payouts and bonuses. But currently it's an ISK sink... May be in the Future... Currently that integration has as much influence on dust as Plasma cannon has to infantry... PC well, currently it's worth playing... FPS players wants competitive battles, not 1 min to shoot 1 player... Corp battles allowed us to just go all out and have some fun...
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 629	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:11:00 - [28] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: 843-BANE wrote: CCP lose customers every day because they ignore what the community wants in favour of some crappy EVE integration. We are gamers, and we are entitled to what we're promised - fun. Well, we'll have to disagree here then. See that inequality statement in my sig down there? I'm totally in favor of throwing any or every FPS convention out of the window if it means bringing integration with Eve Online. If you want a run-of-the-mill FPS (I don't mean moderate quality, I mean normal ideas), go over yonder to another game. That's my opinion. If that's how you get fun, then that's what you should do. Eve Online isn't for everyone, and I see no reason why Eve Dust514 should be any different. If all I wanted was sci-fi fps, I'd continue playing Halo. I'd love EVE integration done right, but not at the expense of our enjoyment. I don't play EVE, no, I'm sure you play it somewhat for enjoyment, yes? That's why we play Dust, enjoyment. I don't want a run of the mil COD shooter, that's clearly not what I'm asking for. What I'm asking for is for CCP to make competitive gameplay viable for everyone, not just the elite few. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:21:00 - [29] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: FPS is still the Main focus in Dust. Eve integration is a great Feature. But right now it doesn't have any proper useful value.. Other than the fact that it's Cool... FW, good change, but could've been better. We could've seen changes made in the starmap and so on, received better payouts and bonuses. But currently it's an ISK sink... May be in the Future... Currently that integration has as much influence on dust as Plasma cannon has to infantry... PC well, currently it's worth playing... FPS players wants competitive battles, not 1 min to shoot 1 player... Corp battles allowed us to just go all out and have some fun... "FPS" is at most a genre, as little as merely a mechanical and user interface approach. (Extra Credits had a video where they criticize the way we think about game genres, but I can't remember which it was.) Eve Online integration isn't just a 'great feature'. CCP has said from the very beginning they want to create an in-depth, holistic science fiction universe. That's CCP's goal. Eve Online integration with Eve DUST514 isn't just a neat idea they are marketing, it's their foundation. If that integration is weak right now (which I'm not debating, it's horri-bad,) then that's what they need to be working on. Fundamental game mechanics(bugs, aim assist, balance, etc) and Eve Online integration should be their top to priorities if they are going to deliver on their vision. I don't think I understand "not 1 min to shoot 1 player". Could you rephrase that statement? By "just go all out and have some fun" do you mean 'without consequences beyond the cost of our lost suits."? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 97	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:22:00 - [30] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Considering there are 15,000+ active dust members 41 is not that many people. Actually, only about 3,000 ... http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust so you are saying the same 3,000 play the game for 24 hours a day everyday? Course not, that sounds ridiculous. Good catch. Where might one find out the total number of logins for a given day? FAME

Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:26:00 - [31] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: What I'm asking for is for CCP to make competitive gameplay viable for everyone, not just the elite few. I don't have behind-the-scenes numbers, I only have my experience. But most of the time when I'm playing with my corp I have really enjoyable, competitive, public matches. I'm not even into advanced suits yet, nor advanced equipment other than +dams and submachine guns. People in my squads aren't bringing their proto suits to stomp the pubs. And these enjoyable, competitive matches, we only win about half of those. So what I'm trying to say is you are asking for game design/mechanic changes to bring on competitive gameplay, and I am failing to see why those changes are necessary because I'm not failing to obtain competitive gameplay and I am not "elite few." (I suck at fps's, actually.) Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 630	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:27:00 - [32] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: NAV HIV wrote: FPS is still the Main focus in Dust. Eve integration is a great Feature. But right now it doesn't have any proper useful value.. Other than the fact that it's Cool... FW, good change, but could've been better. We could've seen changes made in the starmap and so on, received better payouts and bonuses. But currently it's an ISK sink... May be in the Future... Currently that integration has as much influence on dust as Plasma cannon has to infantry... PC well, currently it's worth playing... FPS players wants competitive battles, not 1 min to shoot 1 player... Corp battles allowed us to just go all out and have some fun... "FPS" is at most a genre, as little as merely a mechanical and user interface approach. (Extra Credits had a video where they criticize the way we think about game genres, but I can't remember which it was.) Eve Online integration isn't just a 'great feature'. CCP has said from the very beginning they want to create an in-depth, holistic science fiction universe. That's CCP's goal. Eve Online integration with Eve DUST514 isn't just a neat idea they are marketing, it's their foundation. If that integration is weak right now (which I'm not debating, it's horri-bad,) then that's what they need to be working on. Fundamental game mechanics(bugs, aim assist, balance, etc) and Eve Online integration should be their top to priorities if they are going to deliver on their vision. I don't think I understand "not 1 min to shoot 1 player". Could you rephrase that statement? By "just go all out and have some fun" do you mean 'without consequences beyond the cost of our lost suits."? I agree that EVE integration is essential, it's the point of this game just about.However I don't see why you're point is at all related to corporation battles, I'm not sure if you were around when they were going on. They were far preferable to PC as it let players actually play, no matter their class or rank. You can talk about EVE integration and place yourself on your space-sim pedestal all day, however it doesn't change the fact that players are not happy with the game. Something that was far better was removed and replaced with a crappier version that has lead people to quit and quite clearly uproar on the forums as we see daily. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 631	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:29:00 - [33] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: 843-BANE wrote: What I'm asking for is for CCP to make competitive gameplay viable for everyone, not just the elite few. I don't have behind-the-scenes numbers, I only have my experience. But most of the time when I'm playing with my corp I have really enjoyable, competitive, public matches. I'm not even into advanced suits yet, nor advanced equipment other than +dams and submachine guns. People in my squads aren't bringing their proto suits to stomp the pubs. And these enjoyable, competitive matches, we only win about half of those. So what I'm trying to say is you are asking for game design/mechanic changes to bring on competitive gameplay, and I am failing to see why those changes are necessary because I'm not failing to obtain competitive gameplay and I am not "elite few." (I suck at fps's, actually.) Probably about... 1 in every 5 public matches I have are competitive. The other 4 are us redlining the enemy and just ******* around in LAVs because the redberries are just awful. That's not their fault. You can not for one second compare public matches to corporation battles, that tells me you don't really understand competitive matches in Dust. Have you played a proper corporation battle? Or even PC? There is no comparison to public battles. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 940	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:40:00 - [34] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: NAV HIV wrote: FPS is still the Main focus in Dust. Eve integration is a great Feature. But right now it doesn't have any proper useful value.. Other than the fact that it's Cool... FW, good change, but could've been better. We could've seen changes made in the starmap and so on, received better payouts and bonuses. But currently it's an ISK sink... May be in the Future... Currently that integration has as much influence on dust as Plasma cannon has to infantry... PC well, currently it's worth playing... FPS players wants competitive battles, not 1 min to shoot 1 player... Corp battles allowed us to just go all out and have some fun... "FPS" is at most a genre, as little as merely a mechanical and user interface approach. (Extra Credits had a video where they criticize the way we think about game genres, but I can't remember which it was.) Eve Online integration isn't just a 'great feature'. CCP has said from the very beginning they want to create an in-depth, holistic science fiction universe. That's CCP's goal. Eve Online integration with Eve DUST514 isn't just a neat idea they are marketing, it's their foundation. If that integration is weak right now (which I'm not debating, it's horri-bad,) then that's what they need to be working on. Fundamental game mechanics(bugs, aim assist, balance, etc) and Eve Online integration should be their top to priorities if they are going to deliver on their vision. I don't think I understand "not 1 min to shoot 1 player". Could you rephrase that statement? By "just go all out and have some fun" do you mean 'without consequences beyond the cost of our lost suits."? Eve Integration and all those Promo videos are what attacked most of the shooters here. Most of the shooter who have been here for a while love idea of Teamwork, Risk Vs Reward... I love it... But they can't expect the shooters to stick around for an indefinite period of time while they don't fix even the most basic things... ie: lag, framerate, DC in general.... Aim Assist?!!! AA is for people who love to call themselves FPS players but can't shoot at a building without assist... It's not very competitive... PC is stale and the mechanism isn't that great... Locking districts and hiding behind timers, Inducing lag issues (Yes we all know how it was done) to win battles... So please tell me, for a starting Corp who want's to get better and competitive what are they supposed to do?! Save 36 mil, buy a clone pack and attack some CORP? What would be the end result ? Lag, Framerate, in-battle DC... RAGE and lot of rage... Besides they aren't even gonna fight the corp they are attacking... So all in all it's not very competitive... Missing the main focus from the FPS bit... With Corp battle we could do a battle for as low as 100k and have some good all out fight and practice to get into PC one day when it's worth getting into again... 1 min to shoot 1 player... Play any other competitive FPS and see how long a person can survive in a battle ?! Here people start crying over TTK if they are dead within 5 seconds of an encounter. They don't wanna use cover and stay alive for the longest time... These aren`t battleship vs battleship encounters...But people expect them to be so. That isn't my idea of proper EvE integration... I`m sure EvE players wouldnt like it +¼f it took them 5 seconds to blow up a ship... (excuse my knowledge on EvE there) Once again Dust is a shooter first, so they fix the very basics of a shooter first...
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:49:00 - [35] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: However I don't see why you're point is at all related to corporation battles, I'm not sure if you were around when they were going on. I wasn't, no, which is why my very first post in this thread was asking about PC as compared to corp battles. I am trying to understand the request. Incorporating a bit more of what you said below, let's see if I understand it better now: you are highly-skilled (character and player skill), as is to some degree your corporation. doing pub matches doesn't provide you challenge, as the reds don't practice any fing teamwork (my #1 issue). you want to be able to setup matches with other people who are at your skill level for challenging game play. 843-BANE wrote:* They were far preferable to PC as it let players actually play, no matter their class or rank. There's a restriction for that in PC? 843-BANE wrote: You can talk about EVE integration and place yourself on your space-sim pedestal all day, Hey, don't get personal, I am not being Eve Online-arrogant. There is no pedestal involved here. 843-BANE wrote: however it doesn't change the fact that players are not happy with the game. Something that was far better was removed and replaced with a crappier version that has lead people to quit and quite clearly uproar on the forums as we see daily. This is where I'm different from 99% of people out there, and I accept that. I don't give 1 rat's behind about $$. CCP has a vision. They should be doing quality work while striving to that goal. If that goal is unpopular, even to the point of becoming a non-viable business, I would not suggest nor support the compromising of the goal. If it can't get market support, then their dream is simply not viable and it "fails" (from a business perspective.) But they shouldn't compromise their dream. And I take the same approach when it means that I'll have to quit playing a game because the designer's goals and my fun don't line up. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 632	Posted - 2014.01.29 17:58:00 - [36] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: 843-BANE wrote: However I don't see why you're point is at all related to corporation battles, I'm not sure if you were around when they were going on. I wasn't, no, which is why my very first post in this thread was asking about PC as compared to corp battles. I am trying to understand the request. Incorporating a bit more of what you said below, let's see if I understand it better now: you are highly-skilled (character and player skill), as is to some degree your corporation. doing pub matches doesn't provide you challenge, as the reds don't practice any fing teamwork (my #1 issue). you want to be able to setup matches with other people who are at your skill level for challenging game play. 843-BANE wrote:* They were far preferable to PC as it let players actually play, no matter their class or rank. There's a restriction for that in PC? 843-BANE wrote: You can talk about EVE integration and place yourself on your space-sim pedestal all day, Hey, don't get personal, I am not being Eve Online-arrogant. There is no pedestal involved here. 843-BANE wrote: however it doesn't change the fact that players are not happy with the game. Something that was far better was removed and replaced with a crappier version that has lead people to quit and quite clearly uproar on the forums as we see daily. This is where I'm different from 99% of people out there, and I accept that. I don't give 1 rat's behind about $$. CCP has a vision. They should be doing quality work while striving to that goal. If that goal is unpopular, even to the point of becoming a non-viable business, I would not suggest nor support the compromising of the goal. If it can't get market support, then their dream is simply not viable and it "fails" (from a business perspective.) But they shouldn't compromise their dream. And I take the same approach when it means that I'll have to quit playing a game because the designer's goals and my fun don't line up. As far as the actual restriction goes, no it is not physical. But as NAV has pointed out it means that a corporation has to grind 36 million ISK (This is a hell of a lot for some people) only to be wiped out by people far more experienced. This creates an atmosphere where only the elite can play Apologies for the attack, I've had too many encounters with EVE players who view as COD-monkeys, I'm sure you don't, however. I whole heartedly sympathize with CCP if that really is their dream, and I have not once suggested that they compromise it. I support PC, I think it needs to be fixed as it's a great concept. I never debated that they should strive from their dream, as that is what makes this game so rich. However, that being said, their dream is only accomplish-able if they have an audience, if they have players. I'm sure it's also their dream to have a large, adoring and growing fanbase. Perhaps it's also their dream to make a lot of money. One way or another, they can't achieve any of those dreams without appeasing the players and to at least some degree offering us what they want. In fact they could create whatever EVE-lore behind corporation battles they want, have them as 'contracts' like they did before. We could still have EVE-OBs and all the cool stuff, just without all the crap-factory broken mechanics that reside in Molden Heath. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 48	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:00:00 - [37] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Eve Integration and all those Promo videos are what attacked most of the shooters here. Most of the shooter who have been here for a while love idea of Teamwork, Risk Vs Reward... I love it... But they can't expect the shooters to stick around for an indefinite period of time while they don't fix even the most basic things... ie: lag, framerate, DC in general.... {...} Once again Dust is a shooter first, so they fix the very basics of a shooter first... I can't really comment on most of those things. My preferred playstyle of FPSs is the campaign, so I'm not one to judge whether TTK is too low or too high. I really don't know much of anything about aim assist. Etc. FPSs make less than 10% of my game purchases. Clearly, they need to have all the basic bugs and elements of an FPS worked out. I can clearly see why some folks still consider Eve DUST to be in beta, despite it's official stance. My involvement in this thread is really to get an understanding of what place corp battles have in the game design, and what's the driving force behind the request. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 940	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:04:00 - [38] - Quote Well The designers have a one of a kind, wonderful Goal... Trust me, we are still here spending AUR and playing this because We are still hoping this game to deliver what was promised... Eve integration an all is fine, but i'm not a EvE player... I don't have the time to play EvE honestly along with Dust... Or else i would've... But there are few things that irritates me though... - Making an Alliance... Why is it only limited to EvE players ?! Us Dust players who don't have an EvE account should be allowed to make an alliance too and invite EvE corps to join us... Not just one sided business... - Comms... EvE comms are much more efficient than Dust. Even till this day i have to log in to my Alt to get my Comms to Work... ( i have over 1.5 mil SP on my alt by doing this) - Don't rely on EvE shooters all the time for weapon and gameplay balancing... It's like asking a PC player to Balance the DS3 controller or asking Dust players tr y and balance/fix issues in EvE... (btw even with 100% on Both X and Y, the movement and controls are too slow for my taste personally) - Player Market : Well it's lolMarket - Not enough rewards for the risk taken. I make the same amount of ISK if not more with standard gear, than i do with Proto... Just an example: Goin 14-9 against full proto team... My pay out was 162k isk ?! WHAT ?! they say dust is a F2P Multiplayer Shooter... Not just Dust-EvE integration... So it would be nice if they would focus on fixing the core gameplay too... make it enjoyable atleast... I would rather have Lag Free militia Battle than Laggy Proto weapon battles
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 48	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:05:00 - [39] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: As far as the actual restriction goes, no it is not physical. But as NAV has pointed out it means that a corporation has to grind 36 million ISK. {...} I whole heartedly sympathize with CCP if that really is their dream, and I have not once suggested that they compromise it. I support PC, I think it needs to be fixed as it's a great concept. I never debated that they should strive from their dream, as that is what makes this game so rich. However, that being said, their dream is only accomplish-able if they have an audience, if they have players. I'm sure it's also their dream to have a large, adoring and growing fanbase. Perhaps it's also their dream to make a lot of money. One way or another, they can't achieve any of those dreams without appeasing the players and to at least some degree offering us what we want. Ah, I get the PC restriction now. I think this might be better balanced as they work on Eve-O integration, as quite frankly if an alliance wants mercs to protect their planets....well we're called "mercenaries" for a reason... I see what you're saying in that latter paragraph. I think this is one of the places that CCP has bungled things from day 1 of Eve-O. Their "this will make people happy" priorities feel like they're coming from an 8-ball. Completely out of touch a lot of the time. And what they decided to prioritize in regards to PC and corp battles sounds like one of those times again. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1000	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:07:00 - [40] - Quote Just give us a stripped down version of the Battle Arena that CCP has talked about in the past. What? What would be the issues behind that? Simply: Set aside a planet outside MH(or use one of the untouched ones in MH) and give some lore about a businessman looking to get rich off of corporations who are looking to compete in a controlled atmosphere, aka an arena. Make sure that there's a cost to each arena battle with a confirmation between both groups on their upcoming battles. Would make doing player-made tournies easier along with Thunderdomes. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1113	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:07:00 - [41] - Quote Well, almost all districs in PC are now locked. CCP better give us corp battles. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 632	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:11:00 - [42] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Well, almost all districs in PC are now locked. CCP better give us corp battles. Hey that's an idea to get CCP to listen, compulse everyone to lock their districts in protest BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 942	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:25:00 - [43] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Eve Integration and all those Promo videos are what attacked most of the shooters here. Most of the shooter who have been here for a while love idea of Teamwork, Risk Vs Reward... I love it... But they can't expect the shooters to stick around for an indefinite period of time while they don't fix even the most basic things... ie: lag, framerate, DC in general.... {...} Once again Dust is a shooter first, so they fix the very basics of a shooter first... I can't really comment on most of those things. My preferred playstyle of FPSs is the campaign, so I'm not one to judge whether TTK is too low or too high. I really don't know much of anything about aim assist. Etc. FPSs make less than 10% of my game purchases. Clearly, they need to have all the basic bugs and elements of an FPS worked out. I can clearly see why some folks still consider Eve DUST to be in beta, despite it's official stance. My involvement in this thread is really to get an understanding of what place corp battles have in the game design, and what's the driving force behind the request. Corp Battle allows New Corps and Players to Get into the whole team based gameplay. Get a taste of What PC would feel like vs Fully organized Corps. Sometimes even take up Contracts against some of the best in the game to get some good practice in... They can Bring back Those Contracts and integrate it with FW may be ?! Use the Eve Dust link there ?! and make actual changes on the Starmap... trust me FPS players likes to see the Badge/Ribbon/Medal thingy lol... So Proper effect on Starmap and use of Eve ships and some decent return would be awesome...
Zene Ren Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 40	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:26:00 - [44] - Quote +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 942	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:33:00 - [45] - Quote Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration To simplify everything said... Yes to that ^
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 97	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:33:00 - [46] - Quote Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Let me get his straight, no isk loss from suit loss in CBs? If so, what would stop cheese tactics... FAME
Zene Ren Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 41	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:36:00 - [47] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Let me get his straight, no isk loss from suit loss in CBs? If so, what would stop cheese tactics... never said anything about not losing ISK when you die... there are still pubs and FW to earn some gear but the corp battles would be only for standings aka rated matches in other games Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 945	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:42:00 - [48] - Quote Zene Ren wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Let me get his straight, no isk loss from suit loss in CBs? If so, what would stop cheese tactics... never said anything about not losing ISK when you die... there are still pubs and FW to earn some gear but the corp battles would be only for standings aka rated matches in other games Hell make it a Harcore Version... No minimap, no scanners... Definitely No AIM ASSIST
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 632	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:44:00 - [49] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Zene Ren wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Let me get his straight, no isk loss from suit loss in CBs? If so, what would stop cheese tactics... never said anything about not losing ISK when you die... there are still pubs and FW to earn some gear but the corp battles would be only for standings aka rated matches in other games Hell make it a Harcore Version... No minimap, no scanners... Definitely No AIM ASSIST Now we're talking! BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 98	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:45:00 - [50] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Zene Ren wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Let me get his straight, no isk loss from suit loss in CBs? If so, what would stop cheese tactics... never said anything about not losing ISK when you die... there are still pubs and FW to earn some gear but the corp battles would be only for standings aka rated matches in other games Hell make it a Harcore Version... No minimap, no scanners... Definitely No AIM ASSIST No scanners? That's kinda what this game is about. But, you could get ride of the mini map and scans then show up as bright red carrots on your screen still. No AA is fine too. FAME

NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 945	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:46:00 - [51] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Zene Ren wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Zene Ren wrote: +1 for corp battles +1 for ISK free no reward corp battles with the only reward being the corp standings and +1 for Eve/Dust deeper integration Let me get his straight, no isk loss from suit loss in CBs? If so, what would stop cheese tactics... never said anything about not losing ISK when you die... there are still pubs and FW to earn some gear but the corp battles would be only for standings aka rated matches in other games Hell make it a Harcore Version... No minimap, no scanners... Definitely No AIM ASSIST No scanners? That's kinda what this game is about. But, you could get rid of the mini map and scans then show up as bright red carrots on your screen still. No AA is fine too. I'd love to fight most of the 1337 shooters without AA... Would be a good practice for me...
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 632	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:49:00 - [52] - Quote Quote: Hell make it a Harcore Version... No minimap, no scanners... Definitely No AIM ASSIST[ No scanners? That's kinda what this game is about. But, you could get rid of the mini map and scans then show up as bright red carrots on your screen still. No AA is fine too. I'd love to fight most of the 1337 shooters without AA... Would be a good practice for me...[/quote] Same here. That would be awesome. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 945	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:54:00 - [53] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Quote: Hell make it a Harcore Version... No minimap, no scanners... Definitely No AIM ASSIST[ No scanners? That's kinda what this game is about. But, you could get rid of the mini map and scans then show up as bright red carrots on your screen still. No AA is fine too. I'd love to fight most of the 1337 shooters without AA... Would be a good practice for me... Same here. That would be awesome.[/quote] I hope they make the DS3 controls and movement a bit quicker than what it is now... I usually feel like i'm a fat man trying to run and shoot very slowly...
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 945	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:06:00 - [54] - Quote Well they are saying PC is Dead... Must be sign !!!
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 636	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:10:00 - [55] - Quote The time is now! BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Sparky1510 Lunatic Response Unit 2	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:21:00 - [56] - Quote Signed. I wasn't around for Corp battles, but this sounds like something I would like to see. I lead a small corp with some new players who don't yet understand this game. This sounds like a great way to get them trained. PC is not an option for us and won't be for a long while. Will be spreading this petition to the rest of my guys.
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 638	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:22:00 - [57] - Quote Sparky1510 wrote: Signed. I wasn't around for Corp battles, but this sounds like something I would like to see. I lead a small corp with some new players who don't yet understand this game. This sounds like a great way to get them trained. PC is not an option for us and won't be for a long while. Will be spreading this petition to the rest of my guys. THIS MAN, CCP. THIS MAN IS EXACTLY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT. This is who needs Corp battles! BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 100	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:27:00 - [58] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Sparky1510 wrote: Signed. I wasn't around for Corp battles, but this sounds like something I would like to see. I lead a small corp with some new players who don't yet understand this game. This sounds like a great way to get them trained. PC is not an option for us and won't be for a long while. Will be spreading this petition to the rest of my guys. THIS MAN, CCP. THIS MAN IS EXACTLY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT. This is who needs Corp battles! Agreed +1 I would enjoy this more than random pubs all the time. The inconsistencies are the biggest issue with pubs. FAME
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 949	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:30:00 - [59] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Sparky1510 wrote: Signed. I wasn't around for Corp battles, but this sounds like something I would like to see. I lead a small corp with some new players who don't yet understand this game. This sounds like a great way to get them trained. PC is not an option for us and won't be for a long while. Will be spreading this petition to the rest of my guys. THIS MAN, CCP. THIS MAN IS EXACTLY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT. This is who needs Corp battles! Agreed +1 I would enjoy this more than random pubs all the time. The inconsistencies are the biggest issue with pubs. Agreed + 1... Let us help build a competitive group of mercs... Not just pub stomping crews.
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 640	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:31:00 - [60] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Sparky1510 wrote: Signed. I wasn't around for Corp battles, but this sounds like something I would like to see. I lead a small corp with some new players who don't yet understand this game. This sounds like a great way to get them trained. PC is not an option for us and won't be for a long while. Will be spreading this petition to the rest of my guys. THIS MAN, CCP. THIS MAN IS EXACTLY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT. This is who needs Corp battles! Agreed +1 I would enjoy this more than random pubs all the time. The inconsistencies are the biggest issue with pubs. Agreed + 1... Let us help build a competitive group of mercs... Not just pub stomping crews. Hell yeah. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 101	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:36:00 - [61] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Sparky1510 wrote: Signed. I wasn't around for Corp battles, but this sounds like something I would like to see. I lead a small corp with some new players who don't yet understand this game. This sounds like a great way to get them trained. PC is not an option for us and won't be for a long while. Will be spreading this petition to the rest of my guys. THIS MAN, CCP. THIS MAN IS EXACTLY WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT. This is who needs Corp battles! Agreed +1 I would enjoy this more than random pubs all the time. The inconsistencies are the biggest issue with pubs. Agreed + 1... Let us help build a competitive group of mercs... Not just pub stomping crews. Hell yeah. Double hell yeah! FAME
Mikey The Bandaid D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 145	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:37:00 - [62] - Quote Corp battles will eliminate the need for PFC. We all know how we at DL feel about PFC.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 949	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:46:00 - [63] - Quote Mikey The Bandaid wrote: Corp battles will eliminate the need for PFC. We all know how we at DL feel about PFC. Everyone will have a fair chance at having some great battles. Regardless of their ties
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 640	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:47:00 - [64] - Quote CCP, let's go through your planets shall we? Besateoden Meildolf - 10/10 districts locked Eoldulf Ennur VI - 6/6 Districts locked Skarkon II - 5/5 Districts locked Mimiror - 8/8 Districts locked Osvetur V - 12/14 Districts locked (Die Valkyrja, respect) Elfrard Klingt VI - 9/9 Districts locked Klingt VIII - 10/10 Districts locked Klingt X - 8/8 Districts locked Kadlina IV - 7/7 Districts locked Aeditide V - 11/11 Districts locked Aeditide VI - 12/12 Districts locked Egbinger VII - 7/7 Districts locked That only covers 3 systems, the others are pretty much the same. From scanning Molden Heath there are currently 8 districts from 3 corporations (Valor Coalition, Die Valk and third day) that aren't locked. Lol. 8 out of, what was it, 250? Interesting. I could literally type out every single planet but it would just be repitiion. Go have a look BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 102	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:51:00 - [65] - Quote Mikey The Bandaid wrote: Corp battles will eliminate the need for PFC. We all know how we at DL feel about PFC. Really? You can't win both PFC and Pubs. Where will the low tier players win? Corp battles are for players not as committed as PC players are. And if PC becomes less popular due to corp battles, doesn't that reflect what the community wants? FAME
TXSTORO Defenders of the Helghast Dream 12	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:54:00 - [66] - Quote Consider this my signature, FIGHT ON CORP BATTLES! --Adapt or Die-- Jack of All Trades Apply to "Defenders of the Helghast Dream"
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 953	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:03:00 - [67] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Mikey The Bandaid wrote: Corp battles will eliminate the need for PFC. We all know how we at DL feel about PFC. Really? You can't win both PFC and Pubs. Where will the low tier players win? Corp battles are for players not as committed as PC players are. And if PC becomes less popular due to corp battles, doesn't that reflect what the community wants? Agreed ^
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 641	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:06:00 - [68] - Quote Preach it! BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
Ankbar Latrommi S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 51	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:09:00 - [69] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: And if PC becomes less popular due to corp battles, doesn't that reflect what the community wants? Only after they have properly integrated the games. How many more people would play PCs if that was the way you could shoot down ships in Eve-O? (not entirely a rhetorical question) Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 642	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:15:00 - [70] - Quote CCP responds. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1779432#post1779432 That's what we get, folks. A locked thread. Keep pushing. BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE

excillon Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 193	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:51:00 - [71] - Quote Signed
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 650	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:16:00 - [72] - Quote Iron Wolf has spoken! Check the orignial thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1779532#post1779532 BRING BACK CORP BATTLES SIGN THE PEITION HERE
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 962	Posted - 2014.01.30 13:38:00 - [73] - Quote Bump !
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 689	Posted - 2014.01.30 15:54:00 - [74] - Quote Iw ill no longer be bumping or request Bumps for this situation, Hans from CPM has produced a good response that is useful, and the CPM are now responding well to us in discussion about Corp battles and the whole situation. We got we came for thus far o7 Thanks guys, this is what it took. Director // Major // BurgezzE.T.F Challenge me to Thunderdome.
Vag Eye Lenol Planetary Asset Protection Services 26	Posted - 2014.01.30 16:34:00 - [75] - Quote fun for evryone


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