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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:24:00 -
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The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
4057
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:24:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
No. buff jihad Jeeps.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Aizen Intiki
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
772
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:25:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into. No. buff jihad Jeeps.
**** off you little ****.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
4057
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:26:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into. No. buff jihad Jeeps. **** off you little ****.
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GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3633
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:27:00 -
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Ha Ha.
Pathetic.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1603
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:28:00 -
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Just wait till I get my rocket bikeGǪ
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6204
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:30:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Just wait till I get my rocket bikeGǪ I'll shot either you or the Remotes off of it. either way you look like a fool....don't think I can't.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3996
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:31:00 -
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Or you could stop being a btchy @$$ scrub and kill the Jeeps.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
265
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:32:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
Sure, as soon as they remove tanks. And 0 risk? Only people with bpos, and rented are still 3k then.
Most people who jihad don't have bpos though, its the last ditch (though first ditch more often then not now) for those who don't have the sp to use proper AV, which means they have not been here LNG enough to have bpo s. Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
4152
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:32:00 -
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Oh the hypocrisy! |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8552
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:33:00 -
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No
EDIT: This is as silly as a proto-suit user complaining that a free starter fit is able to kill them. If you payed enough attention, you could have seen it coming and destroyed it before it hit you. Tanking has become largely risk-free and very powerful in 1.7, this is one of the last effective ways to deal with them now. The conclude, NO.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6204
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:33:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:[quote=Aizen Intiki]Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you?
No that's bad ass!
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
115
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:34:00 -
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Hahahahaha
Jihad Jeeps forever. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
377
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:35:00 -
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We need a hard counter against it or limitations on what you can place those on.
I only drive a mlt Soma so I'm not that annoyed by it but all of my tanker buddies despise those things and understandably so
Cheer up a bit will you
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1606
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Just wait till I get my rocket bikeGǪ I'll shot either you or the Remotes off of it. either way you look like a fool....don't think I can't. It will be fun
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Erasmus Konstantin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:35:00 -
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Godin thebad |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
321
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:35:00 -
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Godin, why are you so bad? Imagining damage mods on my tank when there aren't any and leaving a match instead of AFKing for some ISk to make up for your lost tanks?
.:21:28:49:. Eltra_Ardell> One day I hope I can be like him .:21:28:51:. Eltra_Ardell> and finally be a good .:21:29:01:. Eltra_Ardell> I just want Godin-senpai to notice me .:21:29:21:. Sammus> I got him dukes of hazard style with my jeep, i flew right over a hill, next to a blue tank and plowed right into him .:21:29:34:. Sammus> So he brought out... another tank .:21:30:50:. Eltra_Ardell> you know .:21:30:56:. Eltra_Ardell> doing the exact same thing .:21:30:59:. Eltra_Ardell> in the exact same situation .:21:31:10:. Eltra_Ardell> and expecting something different to happen .:21:31:16:. Eltra_Ardell> is one definition of badness |
sammus420
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
362
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:36:00 -
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He's mad because I hit him 3 times with my jeep in a match, 2 of which while he was battling other tanks. After the first time he saw that we were running tanks and jeeps, his response was to bring in more tanks. The results were predictable. |
Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1392
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:36:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Oh the hypocrisy! ^He stalks Jihad Jeep threads inserts that line and leaves.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Or you could stop being a btchy @$$ scrub and kill the Jeeps. 30 bullets in 1 second that is so possible if your fighting a tank /sarcasm bottom line, its cheap, its op, its stupid, it costs them nothing, no risk too.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1606
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:devonus durga wrote:[quote=Aizen Intiki]Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you?
No that's bad ass! Thank you
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1039
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:38:00 -
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You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise. |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:38:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:He's mad because I hit him 3 times with my jeep in a match, 2 of which while he was battling other tanks. After the first time he saw that we were running tanks and jeeps, his response was to bring in more tanks. The results were predictable. noob you suck so bad you cant win a 1v1?
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
90
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into. No. buff jihad Jeeps. Lets start a petition. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
322
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:39:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:sammus420 wrote:He's mad because I hit him 3 times with my jeep in a match, 2 of which while he was battling other tanks. After the first time he saw that we were running tanks and jeeps, his response was to bring in more tanks. The results were predictable. noob you suck so bad you cant win a 1v1? We're all bads here. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6205
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:40:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise.
Its more like we need to rebalance/ redesignate the roles of HAV.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
90
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:40:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise. I will never stop jihad jeeping, it is so much damn fun |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
371
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:40:00 -
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Lol tanks are powerful, sometimes more powerful than infantry can deal with, If we can't even call in a tank to counter because there's like 5 enemy ones on the field what the hell do you expect us to do? Yeah I use them too but only when the vehicle threat is just overwhelming.
The problem isn't that people are using the LAVs this way, it's that we don't have a choice.
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sammus420
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
363
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:42:00 -
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NK Scout wrote: you suck so bad you cant win a 1v1?
I did win 1v1. I only ganked him while he was in a tank battle twice. I caught him all alone once as well. But i'm a total bads. |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:43:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote:NK Scout wrote:sammus420 wrote:He's mad because I hit him 3 times with my jeep in a match, 2 of which while he was battling other tanks. After the first time he saw that we were running tanks and jeeps, his response was to bring in more tanks. The results were predictable. noob you suck so bad you cant win a 1v1? We're all bads here. thats why i can kill proto's without thier butt buddies
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
266
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:46:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV, nerf Tanks, and Jihad Jeeps will disappear.
Nah I'll always run mine, to much fun.
Op, I can burn through 2-3 jihad keep fits trying to hit a tanker. There are plenty of measures that can stop or dissuade a jihad jeeper. I won't mention them, but I can easily blow through 90k chasing a tank.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3201
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:46:00 -
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Then remove tanks.
See where this is going?
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
268
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:51:00 -
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Faunher wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into. No. buff jihad Jeeps. Lets start a petition.
Search the breach remote explosive reccomendation and give it your love. 1 remote to rule the tanks, and in the darkness bind them.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1043
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Posted - 2014.01.27 03:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise. Its more like we need to rebalance/ redesignate the roles of HAV.
Because the last vehicle overhaul worked so well? Nerf HAVs and/or give us effective AV. Or both. F*ck riddles and stalling tactics.
Jihadi Jeeps are fun. But that's it. Sometimes effective. Always fun. They certainly aren't the problem. Tanks are the problem. Fix the problem.
"Redefine our role"? That's pretty far from specific. Kinda like "cancer is bad ... let's all think about it." |
Sgt Buttscratch
1400
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:00:00 -
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I've tried the boomercars tactic, against the 1.7 tankers its pretty funny, now against real tankers(the good ones from before 1.7), it's not funny, they just shoot your ass dead fast then continue to destroy the battlefield.
The problem here is the tankers(for the most) are very careless, they are missing a basic set of tactics that the real tankers learned when tanks cost money and keeping them alive was priority no.1. I wont go into this basic set of tactics, not my place to teach the fail ass scrub tanker 1.7 has created how to tank, the good tankers who chose to remain tankers still have it.
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6206
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:02:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise. Its more like we need to rebalance/ redesignate the roles of HAV. Because the last vehicle overhaul worked so well? Nerf HAVs and/or give us effective AV. Or both. F*ck riddles and stalling tactics. Jihadi Jeeps are fun. But that's it. Sometimes effective. Always fun. They certainly aren't the problem. Tanks are the problem. Fix the problem. "Redefine our role"? That's pretty far from specific. Kinda like "cancer is bad ... let's all think about it."
Buff AV is one aspect of rebalancing HAV. I used to tank a lot in previous builds but in this build I absolutely HATE tanking. Its too easy in a blaster vs infantry (to the point where I am actively suggesting we remove the large blasters), and even worse in Rail HAV where you shoot first you win.
Redefining the role of HAV is to keep them resilient, but have them carry massive vehicle busting ordinance. Refocus tanks as the ultimate ground based vehicle susceptible only to enemy HAV and AV (and an Aerial vehicle in future). Take away the tanks awesome anti infantry capacity and replace it with a new role.
MAV and MTAC can be infantry terrors, let AV and HAV deal with them.
As for you last sarcastic comment its not a ******* funny illness, when have people you know dealing with it it can be absolutely heart breaking.
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HYENAKILLER X
AGGRESSIVE TYPE
507
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:04:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. Shut your hole! Those guys are heros.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
90
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:06:00 -
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I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP. |
Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1045
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise. Its more like we need to rebalance/ redesignate the roles of HAV. Because the last vehicle overhaul worked so well? Nerf HAVs and/or give us effective AV. Or both. F*ck riddles and stalling tactics. Jihadi Jeeps are fun. But that's it. Sometimes effective. Always fun. They certainly aren't the problem. Tanks are the problem. Fix the problem. "Redefine our role"? That's pretty far from specific. Kinda like [REDACTED] Buff AV is one aspect of rebalancing HAV. I used to tank a lot in previous builds but in this build I absolutely HATE tanking. Its too easy in a blaster vs infantry (to the point where I am actively suggesting we remove the large blasters), and even worse in Rail HAV where you shoot first you win. Redefining the role of HAV is to keep them resilient, but have them carry massive vehicle busting ordinance. Refocus tanks as the ultimate ground based vehicle susceptible only to enemy HAV and AV (and an Aerial vehicle in future). Take away the tanks awesome anti infantry capacity and replace it with a new role. MAV and MTAC can be infantry terrors, let AV and HAV deal with them. As for you last sarcastic comment its not a ******* funny illness, when have people you know dealing with it it can be absolutely heart breaking. Edited post out of respect for your situation. Best of luck.
PS: Agreed on all points above. |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
118
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:11:00 -
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Why don't you simply keep watch and shoot the LAVs barreling right for you? Or if they're being sneaky pop out and riddle their jeeps with small arms (you'll set off the REs)?
Sorry, but one too many tank spams have gone down for sympathy.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
271
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:13:00 -
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Faunher wrote:I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP.
I just cried a little, you sir, are a saint.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
230
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:16:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. Stop being a ***** ass scrub and use a gun? Tanks are cheap as hell, my best maddy with 10 mil sp in tanks costs me 256,000 isk, not using proto turret, seriously 256,000 isk? And your bitching about a guy using a lav and in most cases a life to kill you? You will get no sympathy from infantry on this issue. Tanks got a nerf coming maybe then it will be changed, but atm jj is the most effective av out there. I say jj these tankers out of the game because most arent true tankers, they are either padding kd, or just started tanking for easy kills. Either way I love tanks and I love blowing them up, but truly tanks are scrubblet proof atm.... |
Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
115
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:16:00 -
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Nothing feels better than strapping six RE's to a free car in an entire BPO fit and driving it into one of you OP tankers. Money well spent.
You're seriously terrible at this game if you're complaining about jihads. Just shoot the front of the car and have better situational awareness. |
Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
93
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:21:00 -
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It is kind of like the situation with nova knives and heavies. It's damned hard to walk straight up to 1000ehp of 450 DPS and stab them with a knife. If you are that heavy, and you allow someone to get close enough to you that they can tickle you, you deserve to die.
Scale this up about 10 times and you have tanks and jeeps. If you shoot one of those REs on the front of that jeep, that thing is blown to oblivion. If you are going to be driving around 100 tons of heavy ordinance, it might be a good idea to have a degree of situational awareness. |
Spectre-M
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
231
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:21:00 -
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I thought dying was a risk. The jihad jeep is all risk, all reward (unless BPO swap).
If equipment was destroyed when switching suits, it would resolve lots of issues. You should lose those REs when the jeep hits, instead people can safely switch to a BPO suit and not lose ISK or the used REs. No one has even mentioned how 1.7 redid vehicles and made REs stick. I would say this is by design, and the players found the intent very quickly.
AV needs changes to reflect the new vehicles and equipment should be destroyed when suits have been switched. This tactic would then be 'legitimate', even though it is already.
Tanks have hard counters just like everything else. Welcome to the tankers version of the core locus.
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Jake Bloodworth
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
Nothing to see here, just another tanker asking that all viable counters be removed. Didn't CCP just do this for you?
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:25:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote: Nothing to see here, just another tanker asking that all viable counters be removed. Didn't CCP just do this for you?
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
Whaaa? I'm a tank driver and I say, they should be allowed to do this, seriously. They are annoying as hell, but they're still using a strategy. LAV and remotes are not free, plus most blow up the suit that held the explosives.
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devonus durga
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:32:00 -
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Yeah, I always forget to switch suiys, then again I'm usually in ambush so its not always an optin
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Zohar Colichemarde
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Faunher wrote:I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP.
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devonus durga
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devonus durga wrote:Faunher wrote:I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP. I just cried a little, you sir, are a saint.
I just might make a short story based off this if you don't mind? It will be amarran and in a favorable light towards our beloved jeep, and I'll credit you.
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:42:00 -
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This vicious cycle of me tanking:
- Ooo let's play on my vehicle alt
- Let's call out a missile tank
- Get's popped by Jihad jeep
- Oh well let's try a dropship
- Get's shot down by redline gunlogi with three damage mods
- Let's get a tank to kill him.. Oh wait they have a lazy jihad jeeper on their team.
It's honestly pathetic. AV still works you guys were just babied too long with your kill a hardened tank with three volleys of swarms BS to realize it.
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Faunher
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devonus durga wrote:devonus durga wrote:Faunher wrote:I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP. I just cried a little, you sir, are a saint. I just might make a short story based off this if you don't mind? It will be amarran and in a favorable light towards our beloved jeep, and I'll credit you. By the will of the Gods of AV, and the Patron Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarms, you have permission to write this story. May you get eternal WPs, Prophet Devonus Durga. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Scout Registry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Scout Registry wrote:You're b*tching about a symptom, and you neglect to see the cause. Buff AV and nerf Tanks ... Jihad Jeeps will magically disappear. Promise. Its more like we need to rebalance/ redesignate the roles of HAV. Because the last vehicle overhaul worked so well? Nerf HAVs and/or give us effective AV. Or both. F*ck riddles and stalling tactics. Jihadi Jeeps are fun. But that's it. Sometimes effective. Always fun. They certainly aren't the problem. Tanks are the problem. Fix the problem. "Redefine our role"? That's pretty far from specific. Kinda like [REDACTED] Buff AV is one aspect of rebalancing HAV. I used to tank a lot in previous builds but in this build I absolutely HATE tanking. Its too easy in a blaster vs infantry (to the point where I am actively suggesting we remove the large blasters), and even worse in Rail HAV where you shoot first you win. Redefining the role of HAV is to keep them resilient, but have them carry massive vehicle busting ordinance. Refocus tanks as the ultimate ground based vehicle susceptible only to enemy HAV and AV (and an Aerial vehicle in future). Take away the tanks awesome anti infantry capacity and replace it with a new role. MAV and MTAC can be infantry terrors, let AV and HAV deal with them. As for you last sarcastic comment its not a ******* funny illness, when have people you know dealing with it it can be absolutely heart breaking. Edited post out of respect for your situation. Best of luck. PS: Agreed on all points above.
The last thing I want to be while playing a game is bored. I am either bored or angry. Bored cause taking it too easy, or angry because tankng is too easy,,,,, The moment someone does something unexpected while tanking things get fun, from mounting small turrets to using missiles.
Bored of how Tanking is "Spam most rails by team X = tank domination by team X = Blaster tank spam by team X = team Y loosing".
That's no fun for anyone.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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devonus durga
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:48:00 -
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Faunher wrote:devonus durga wrote:devonus durga wrote:Faunher wrote:I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP. I just cried a little, you sir, are a saint. I just might make a short story based off this if you don't mind? It will be amarran and in a favorable light towards our beloved jeep, and I'll credit you. By the will of the Gods of AV, and the Patron Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarms, you have permission to write this story. May you get eternal WPs, Prophet Devonus Durga.
Many thanks, it will take a few weeks, I'm not very knowledgeable of eve dust lore, never mind amarran, so I want to get it right.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:We need a hard counter against it or limitations on what you can place those on.
I only drive a mlt Soma so I'm not that annoyed by it but all of my tanker buddies despise those things and understandably so Aim your large turret at it, and shoot it before it hits you; there is your hard counter.
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Miokai Zahou
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
Sure let's remove them when CCP nerds tanks or buff AV again to the correct levels and remove mlt tanks.
Until then.
Get gud and stop running a tank. Scrub.
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m twiggz
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:53:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. It's effective, it's COST effective and it's fun. You lose a 500k tank and I lose 2-4 150-200k suits trying to kill you with AV... OR ... You lose a 500k tank and I lose a BPO LAV and a 10k ISK suit.
You should be happy people come up with creative ways to do things. It makes the game more interesting for everyone. I actually find dodging Jihaad Jeeps fun when I'm tanking.
The real issue this whole thread should be pointing out to the devs that light AV is so weak people have to resort to cheap tactics. My Sica with militia shield hardeners should not be able to tank 3+ proto swarms, but it does with ease. |
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Posted - 2014.01.27 04:53:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
I see no reason not to. You would've had similar results with a second HAV coming out(the cost difference wouldn't have mattered). AV would've just turned the ride in your enemy's favor at a slower pace...or maybe not if you're highly susceptible to AV nades.
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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This is beautiful emergent gameplay. Stop trying to turn this game into a bland shooter with strictly defined roles.
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Waiyu Ren
Immortal Guides
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I've not actually tried JJ yet, but i think i will. I've been looking for a way to make my LAVs actually useful...
Slightly on topic anecdote: I played one match with a friend a few weeks back, Domination, couldn't tell you the name of the map (the objective sits exposed with a cluster of small buildings on one side and hills on the other). I almost always carry remotes, he often does too. And as the tanks rolled in, we found out that no less than four other blues on our team were as well.
One tank alone can run away, four or more fighting each other for the "easy kills" get tangled and cant. Granted there was only one good tank in the first wave, a Mady i think, and he did get away but he didn't come back. But here is the thing that made me first laugh, then gape, then rub my eyes in disbelief: They just kept spawning more tanks (not the good tanker, he went redlining i think). We killed one guy 7 times... 4 waves, same result, but that one guy just kept coming back...
Shouting doesn't make your opinion seem more valid, it just makes you seem more annoying.
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:23:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
Same could be said of redline rail tanks and dropships
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1359
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YOU DIE FOR ST. ARZAD!!!!!!
KABOOM!!!!
**Tanker immediately runs to forums to cry**
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
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straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into. No. buff jihad Jeeps.
I wanted to like this twice. |
straya fox
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Faunher wrote:I approach jihad jeeping not as some sneaky, deceitful way of defeating my opponent. Jihad jeeping is an art form. They say there is nothing in war but death and destruction, but I believe entirely in death with beauty.
I start off with the RE placement ritual. Each and every one of my REs must be placed perfectly on the jeep, or else I have to prematurely detonate it, as I can not be delivering an impure and tainted death to my enemies. After the RE ritual, I have to search the map to single out the suitable sacrificial tank. After thoroughly investigating the terrain that my sacrifice is grazing in, I carefully and painstakingly plan out the path. This path is what I like to call the Way of Enlightenment. While traveling down the Way of Enlightenment, I chant a prayer to the Gods of AV. I pray for the successful deliverance of mercy to my aggrieved target. The Way of Enlightenment must be tread with wary tires though, as any straying from the path in the form of rolling or otherwise hitting a bump and doing multiple, physics-shattering flips through the air will defile the holy vessel. Any corruption of the vessel will result in a mandatory premature detonation in order to maintain honor. Once you tread the Way of Enlightenment and you at last arrive to the sacrificial altar, much care has to be taken in order to pierce the Chosen Offering in such a way as to quickly end its suffering. The deliverer of the Holy Vessel of Mercy must take an active part as a sacrificial offering himself in order to successfully complete the ritual and ascend to the glory of the Gods of AV.
So next time you bad-mouth a jihad-jeeper, why don't you take some time to research what we have to go through. This game isn't a walk in the park for anyone.
May the Goddess of Wiyrkomi Swarm Launchers grant you eternal WP.
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Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
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I moonwalk up to your tank, gingerly place remotes on the side/front/back/top, walk off in slow motion, raise my Iron Man arm, click boom. Never looking at the explosion.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
457
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Someone once told me, 'You have to be some form of crazy anyway just to try and sneak up on a tank in the first place.' He also said 'They should hand out badges for this.' Where's my badge CCP?
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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Rorick Crawely
SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I moonwalk up to your tank, gingerly place remotes on the side/front/back/top, walk off in slow motion, raise my Iron Man arm, click boom. Never looking at the explosion.
You know what they say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
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Its so much cooler when you don't even have to look at the awesomeness of your doing...
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:44:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
*Ahem*
To quote Tankers over the last month with reference to the AV balance.
HTFU
Get Gud Scrub
Adapt or die
I ran a HAV last night, it's super effective against Jihad Jeeps!
No one should be able to solo my HAV.
The only counter for a Tank should be a Tank.
Waahhh waahhh he broke my toy!!!
*Ahem*
Honestly I don't know if this is a Troll thread but if it isn't, well you need help son cause Tanks are currently Cheap and Super effective against ALL threats while dedicated AV is stupid expensive and only good against vehicles.
You obviously lost your precious HAV to a superior player deal with it you can always call another one in.
Closed Beta AV veteran
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GRIMSNIPER69
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
14
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:46:00 -
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quit your complaining man your just mad that tanks finally have a criptonite like weakness
!!!!!SKIRMISH OVERHAUL!!!!! -> https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1769463#post1769463
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1694
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:46:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. Sure, as soon as they remove tanks. And 0 risk? Only people with bpos, and rented are still 3k then. Most people who jihad don't have bpos though, its the last ditch (though first ditch more often then not now) for those who don't have the sp to use proper AV, which means they have not been here LNG enough to have bpo s. Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you? Finally another one that has the brass to request removing tanks.
At least this scrublord admits it. The rest need to follow suit and put their true feelings out in the open.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
514
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:48:00 -
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Jihad Jeeps are a novel tactic that should be encouraged. There's a reason people do it. It gets results. |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
107
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Snagman 313 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. *Ahem* To quote Tankers over the last month with reference to the AV balance. HTFU Get Gud Scrub Adapt or die I ran a HAV last night, it's super effective against Jihad Jeeps! No one should be able to solo my HAV. The only counter for a Tank should be a Tank. Waahhh waahhh he broke my toy!!! *Ahem* Honestly I don't know if this is a Troll thread but if it isn't, well you need help son cause Tanks are currently Cheap and Super effective against ALL threats while dedicated AV is stupid expensive and only good against vehicles. You obviously lost your precious HAV to a superior player deal with it you can always call another one in. Who is going to grind 3 matches for a tank that gets killed by LOLjhad jeep
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Yokal Bob
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
314
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:00:00 -
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Sticking 3 ADV remotes = nothing Proto swarms = a laughing tanker Proto Forge = a harndened tank going zoom far away Proto AV nades = another hardened tank going zoom far away Remotes + Jeep = no laughing tanker but hilarious for the jeep driver
Its inventive and fun, I dont complain when they do it me I just laugh
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
299
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:02:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. *Ahem* To quote Tankers over the last month with reference to the AV balance. HTFU Get Gud Scrub Adapt or die I ran a HAV last night, it's super effective against Jihad Jeeps! No one should be able to solo my HAV. The only counter for a Tank should be a Tank. Waahhh waahhh he broke my toy!!! *Ahem* Honestly I don't know if this is a Troll thread but if it isn't, well you need help son cause Tanks are currently Cheap and Super effective against ALL threats while dedicated AV is stupid expensive and only good against vehicles. You obviously lost your precious HAV to a superior player deal with it you can always call another one in. Who is going to grind 3 matches for a tank that gets killed by LOLjhad jeep
The same can be said for my Pro AV fits.
Closed Beta AV veteran
I drink because I play Dust
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
547
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:devonus durga wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. Sure, as soon as they remove tanks. And 0 risk? Only people with bpos, and rented are still 3k then. Most people who jihad don't have bpos though, its the last ditch (though first ditch more often then not now) for those who don't have the sp to use proper AV, which means they have not been here LNG enough to have bpo s. Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you? Finally another one that has the brass to request removing tanks. At least this scrublord admits it. The rest need to follow suit and put their true feelings out in the open. It's not like you haven't been requesting for the removal of AV all along because god forbid your precious tank get killed by... infantry.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
16
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:03:00 -
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BPO L.A.V: 0 ISK BPO dropsuit with RE x2: 8000K
Blowing up tank after tank after tank: Priceless
Just wait till I get my BPO from my main, I will be right back in the thick of my glorious Jihad Jeep. I've killed a few dozen over the SP event--how many I don't know, it's all just a blur of
Sica Destruction +150 Kill +50
It actually makes my heart race--those few seconds as you make the approach are awesome. Will they see me? Will the impact be enough...Every single time the satisfaction overflows.
Tankers, I just want to remind you; I'm a 8K ISK 9000 damage super saiyan OHK swarm with infinite range and an addiction to making you burn. See you on the battlefield!
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
457
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:08:00 -
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Now try it on foot, adrenaline is a hell of a drug...
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:20:00 -
[81] - Quote
Snagman 313 wrote:NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. *Ahem* To quote Tankers over the last month with reference to the AV balance. HTFU Get Gud Scrub Adapt or die I ran a HAV last night, it's super effective against Jihad Jeeps! No one should be able to solo my HAV. The only counter for a Tank should be a Tank. Waahhh waahhh he broke my toy!!! *Ahem* Honestly I don't know if this is a Troll thread but if it isn't, well you need help son cause Tanks are currently Cheap and Super effective against ALL threats while dedicated AV is stupid expensive and only good against vehicles. You obviously lost your precious HAV to a superior player deal with it you can always call another one in. Who is going to grind 3 matches for a tank that gets killed by LOLjhad jeep The same can be said for my Pro AV fits. No, it cant His tank was 500k Yours is 50k if your stupid using all slots for proto 20k usualy for adv fit Like really wtf
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Medical Crash
cobra connection Dark Taboo
190
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:22:00 -
[82] - Quote
Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. No |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
457
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:30:00 -
[83] - Quote
Aww.. did a LAVBomb accidently get rammed up your Madruger/Sica/Soma/imtogoodtodie?
As Tidus said 'Go take a nap, *bangslamcrash* nite nite.'
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
520
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Posted - 2014.01.27 08:44:00 -
[84] - Quote
Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
Sadly ist the most effective way to destroy a HAV apart from sneaking up behind and place the RE's manually. BTW to be an effective Jihad driver you need SP and ISK invested...so it's not for free ist just cheap ISK wise.
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Maken Tosch
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
6597
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:02:00 -
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Looks like the LAV drivers got their share of tears now.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD
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Eurydice Itzhak
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
370
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:05:00 -
[86] - Quote
Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV.
I FULLY ENDORSE Jihaad Jeeps.
I used my first ones last week. Was so funny.
My only change is that I believe you should only be able to throw out one set of REs. This would require two people to pull off a jihaad jeep initially, then one could change back to regular and go about his business.
Jihaad jeeps have insane alpha, which is fine because they are:
Easy to kill if you see them.
Easy to avoid if you know its on the map.
Easily killed by infantry who have Assault Rifles!! (Infantry shoot the REs on the front, boom goes the jeep)
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
353
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:10:00 -
[87] - Quote
Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha *gaaasp* ahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaha |
Denchlad 7
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
67
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:17:00 -
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lolthread is lol.
But anyway, when I JJ a railgunner I like to slow down and drive straight up to the front of him. *idiot fires railgun* *I nearly die laughing with an extra 200 WP*
I've even been trying swarms again. 3 shot an unhardened Sica with Wiryikomi's and 5 Complex Damage Mods.
If thats right the best way to describe the scenario is what the f***.
If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world.
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Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
788
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:22:00 -
[89] - Quote
Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Mark Twain
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Blaze Ashra
DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
153
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:35:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:We need a hard counter against it or limitations on what you can place those on.
I only drive a mlt Soma so I'm not that annoyed by it but all of my tanker buddies despise those things and understandably so Most infantry despise being corralled and slaughtered mercilessly by tanks and having virtually no means to deal with them outside of fielding a vehicle or using remote explosives. Understandably so.
Also it's way better having sticky RE's than how they were. At least now they stay where I want them to be vs sliding around.
ADS Pilot/Amarr Loyalist/Logi/WP Whore
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1417
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Posted - 2014.01.27 09:54:00 -
[91] - Quote
Jihad jeeps are wrong.
Sticky RE are right.
Imo, CCP should not let us stick RE on friendly vehicles, if it's blue/green, the RE disappear.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Snagman 313
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
302
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:01:00 -
[92] - Quote
NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:NK Scout wrote:Snagman 313 wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. *Ahem* To quote Tankers over the last month with reference to the AV balance. HTFU Get Gud Scrub Adapt or die I ran a HAV last night, it's super effective against Jihad Jeeps! No one should be able to solo my HAV. The only counter for a Tank should be a Tank. Waahhh waahhh he broke my toy!!! *Ahem* Honestly I don't know if this is a Troll thread but if it isn't, well you need help son cause Tanks are currently Cheap and Super effective against ALL threats while dedicated AV is stupid expensive and only good against vehicles. You obviously lost your precious HAV to a superior player deal with it you can always call another one in. Who is going to grind 3 matches for a tank that gets killed by LOLjhad jeep The same can be said for my Pro AV fits. No, it cant His tank was 500k Yours is 50k if your stupid using all slots for proto 20k usualy for adv fit Like really wtf
Haha sure whatever bud, militia 20k advanced 88k pro 187k.
If thats your argument then he was dumb for using a Maddy/Gunnlogi with complex gear. Come back to this debate when you know about AV fitting, my gear is set up to waste tanks end of even if it takes 4 or 5 attempts.
ISK isn't an argument for HAVs they've never been so cheap.
Jihad jeeps are a result of the AV nerf to Light AV and the Tank spam, I don't like them but they work.
Closed Beta AV veteran
I drink because I play Dust
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
137
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:12:00 -
[93] - Quote
devonus durga wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. Sure, as soon as they remove tanks. And 0 risk? Only people with bpos, and rented are still 3k then. Most people who jihad don't have bpos though, its the last ditch (though first ditch more often then not now) for those who don't have the sp to use proper AV, which means they have not been here LNG enough to have bpo s. Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you?
no. cause the scout obvisly has skill to plant them while your not wtahcing then while your fighting another tank and loseing HP he detonates them for the kill. these scouts are nasty as they tend to use either FCKN BOUNDLESS or god f/45's. if a scout plants them on you and kills you with them without an LAV then he is a nasty pissy **** skilled scout. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2259
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:20:00 -
[94] - Quote
Ah, the guy with a 750 DPS AR (and possibly 2 other weapons firing at the same time) in a 4000 HP fitting is calling someone else and/or their tactics scrub-ish.
Hilarious.
Natalie Portman.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
175
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:20:00 -
[95] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into. No. buff jihad Jeeps.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
462
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:21:00 -
[96] - Quote
I plant remotes on tanks a lot, 3 remotes doesn't always kill the tank. Wish I had even adv. remotes.
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4404
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:22:00 -
[97] - Quote
this thread is hilarious, the tankers have spent ages telling AV to adapt or die, and now that AV has adapted they're calling them scrubs. oh god i'm trying hard not to laugh in class here.
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
462
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:26:00 -
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Hypocrites, never learn to STFU.
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6216
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:32:00 -
[99] - Quote
Vitharr Foebane wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:devonus durga wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:The most annoying thing ever? Trying to fight a damaged modded Gunnlogi, and then one of those ******* crashing into you, costing them 0 ISk, yet making you lose 500k. Stop allowing them to attach Re's to hulls, and if not, make it to where it only damages the hull, and not the thing it's crashing into.
EDIT: and for those who say it's the only way infantry can kill HAV's, stop being a bitchy ass scrub and use AV. Sure, as soon as they remove tanks. And 0 risk? Only people with bpos, and rented are still 3k then. Most people who jihad don't have bpos though, its the last ditch (though first ditch more often then not now) for those who don't have the sp to use proper AV, which means they have not been here LNG enough to have bpo s. Tell me would you be as upset if a scout ran up and did it by planting the remote on you? Finally another one that has the brass to request removing tanks. At least this scrublord admits it. The rest need to follow suit and put their true feelings out in the open. It's not like you haven't been requesting for the removal of AV all along because god forbid your precious tank get killed by... infantry.
Why he **** do people keep saying
"This is the Tanker Mentality" when its a huge fallacy. I am constantly looking for ways, or suggesting them to rebalance, bring into line, or redesignate the role of HAV on the field.
Removing HAV is not the way to go, redesigning how the operate so the impact the infantry roles in a meaningful, but less drastic manner is perhaps what we need to be considering.
For the most part people don't really hate HAV, they hate the capacity or infantry based slaughter one or more HAV can dish out, which is essentially as selfish as one tanker trying to defend the current HAV situation.
However if HAV were redesignated and re designed to cost more, have a higher SP threshold, extended vulnerability timers for active modules, keep their resilience and mobility, but have their main turrets redesigned to provide Anti Vehicle armaments with less capacity of Anti Infantry, coupled with an AV buff....much of the QQ as I see it would fade.
Realistically speaking .....
"A tank is a tracked, armoured fighting vehicle designed for front-line combat which combines operational mobility and tactical offensive and defensive capabilities. Firepower is normally provided by a large-calibre main gun in a rotating turret and secondary machine guns, while heavy armour and all-terrain mobility provide protection for the tank and its crew, allowing it to perform all primary tasks required of armoured troops on the battlefield."
Very few modern tanks (and don't get me wrong I understand more than most people this is New Eden, it is sci fi) have primary anti infantry main guns, however they do carry sponson/ mounted anti infantry guns.
If the primary role of a tanker became to pilot a powerful ground based anti vehicle weapons platform with limited Anti Infantry capacity, and AV got a buff to its damage models much of the current imbalance would be resolved as I see it. As most AVers complain about the tanks capacity to simply turn its main gun on them (blaster) and mow them down. Under this proposal any Tanker wishing to do that would have to skilfully aim his main turret....which on connecting would instantly kill a human player, dropsuit or no.
AVers want tanks to have team work, but having one driver and one primary gunner would essentially break vehicles......however what if small turrets carried extra weight as anti infantry weapons? A tank could have its anti vehicle fire power and role, and require mounted small turrets to provide anti infantry protection.
I mention his model only because I feel it in future would bring a wider range of vehicle roles and divide up the vehicle sizes into meaningful and usuable categories.
LAV- Fast Adaptable Recon and Minor Troop transport with light armour/ shields, light on fire power. MAV- Infantry Support Vehicle, Moderate Armour/Shields, Moderate Firepower (in the form of a secondary medium Turret or Infantry Repper), Moderate Speed MTAC- Solid Speed, Moderate Armour/Shield, High Fire Anti Infantry Fire power/ HAV- Strong Anti vehicle fire power, slow speed, High Armour/Shields, Primary Mid to long range unit. AV- Counter to All vehicle units in various manners.
Currently Tanks lack a purpose on the battlefield one that was neither rectified nor made clear in 1.7. They have windows of opportunity. Good, but those vulnerability windows are very small.... They have varied types of turret.....yet the blaster unbalanced infantry combat significantly and defeats the primary purpose of a tank......
Nerfs are not the way to go, we need to consider what need changing in order to make all vehicle related content balanced against one another, and be able to enter into, aid, and synergise with infantry combat.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1678
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:33:00 -
[100] - Quote
*cough* I shall now read an extract from the "tankers of 1.7", this term commonly used by tankers seems rather relevant.
GET GUD SON, HTFU
In all honesty, you told us to adapt, so we did, the ball is your court.
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen
462
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:35:00 -
[101] - Quote
^
Freelance Psycho
I don't mind heavies with light weapons cause I moonwalk around them in slow motion with my shotty
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1420
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Posted - 2014.01.27 10:35:00 -
[102] - Quote
PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I plant remotes on tanks a lot, 3 remotes doesn't always kill the tank. Wish I had even adv. remotes. There are secret spots, the triangle behind madrugar/soma and between the caterpillars in the logi/sica.
ADV are wothless because you have only 3 of them in stock and they have the same stat of the std. The only good thing is they are faster to equip. Support this request to have all 4 the adv RE and all 5 the pro RE!
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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