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Jebus McKing Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 235	Posted - 2014.01.20 10:44:00 - [1] - Quote With the upcoming accelerated SP week (Jan. 22-29) I propose to make this week a no proto, no advanced gear week. Yea, I know, but hear me out. I see people, probably new players, going 0/5, 0/8, 0/12 or even worse in every single match and I can not imagine that these guys are having any fun whatsoever. But we need more people to stick to this game if we want it to succeed. I'd imagine that many people who have given up on this game might return for this event to see if the game got any better and additionally this event is a good opportunity for new players to catch up on SP. So what we as a community can do is make it a little easier for those guys to get into the game and have fun without getting roflstomped 23/7. At least for one week. So, for just this one week, I'd ask everyone of this lovely community to only use standard dropsuits, weapons, and modules in pub matches. (you are free to use whatever you like in FW and PC, of course) I know I can not stop everyone from using proto gear and the trolls will inevitably keep stomping, but the more people participate the better. even without advanced gear veterans will still have more than enough bonuses from their skills and knowledge about the game to distinguish themselves from the rest of the people. You can not lose anything, except your KDR might take a slight hit, if you care for such silly things. So, if you are with me on this, please let your corpmates know about this aswell, and refrain from using anything but standard gear for this one week. Just 1 week. Thanks. @JebusMcKing // Rifle stats comparison spreadsheet. ò_Ô
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 663	Posted - 2014.01.20 10:56:00 - [2] - Quote No. Imma cap out as quick as possible. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 625	Posted - 2014.01.20 10:56:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah... While I would like to believe that we will make a gentleman's agreement I'm kind of hesitant. No longer a shield of Cat Merc.
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 512	Posted - 2014.01.20 10:57:00 - [4] - Quote Never gonna happen. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole Durka durka.... Bitch.
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 95	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:00:00 - [5] - Quote Count me in std works fine. Cant say anything about other beercases. Thanks for your domination squad last weekend ML those were fun matches with and against you guys! "If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you." Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 627	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:02:00 - [6] - Quote then again it would not matter for me - 2 dmg mods and a rail on my std logi and I would just stand there in the middle of the field looking scary. No longer a shield of Cat Merc.
Lorhak Gannarsein 1251	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:03:00 - [7] - Quote I need to cap out quickly or I would :( gonna be spamming uplinks and reps this coming week . Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters. Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
Jebus McKing Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 236	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:04:00 - [8] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: No. Imma cap out as quick as possible. Since we get 5x the SP per match but the cap is only 3x as normal shouldn't we be able to vcap out faster anyway? @JebusMcKing // Rifle stats comparison spreadsheet. ò_Ô
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 836	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:06:00 - [9] - Quote I just spent a week trashing my stats, stabbing 200 people. I intend to recover ground lost, though it has been said: Proto or not, there's no such thing as "stomping" with a Scout. - Mr Musturd
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:06:00 - [10] - Quote Import Beercase wrote: Count me in std works fine. Cant say anything about other beercases. Thanks for your domination squad last weekend ML those were fun matches with and against you guys! Nothing different I run std gear 90% of my time anyway...

Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 41	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:08:00 - [11] - Quote An honorable and well reasoned idea. However it will likely be the opposite, with so much SP on the table I think people are more likely to go proto to gain as much as possible, with ISK being a low concern. It will be a horrible week for newberries IMO.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1360	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:08:00 - [12] - Quote No, please, i love to get higher rewards at the end of the match. 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 95	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:08:00 - [13] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Import Beercase wrote: Count me in std works fine. Cant say anything about other beercases. Thanks for your domination squad last weekend ML those were fun matches with and against you guys! Nothing different I run std gear 90% of my time anyway... Same here so no big difference in playstyle. Korvin still doing Domination? "If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you." Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2674	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:09:00 - [14] - Quote So I should worry about those guys having fun but I'm still getting revived by a blueberry in the middle of firefight? The blueberry doesn't even shoot at enemies when we are under attack, but waits until another blueberry is dead and the red is close to death before he pulls his trigger? The same blueberry who complains about a reload skip/cancel animation? The same blueberry who will just sit in the MCC when the poop hits the fan? And you want people to put aside their hard work to get to where they are now just for the fun of blueberry? I say no. Stop babying these blueberries. You didn't learn how to tackle or play football by playing in air conditioned padded room, did you? Blueberries need to organize and work with other blueberries. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2206	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:12:00 - [15] - Quote There's a relatively new guy I know that always seems like he's having fun. I checked his K/D and it was something like 0.1. I wish I could give him some of my kills. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 480	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:14:00 - [16] - Quote Import Beercase wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Import Beercase wrote: Count me in std works fine. Cant say anything about other beercases. Thanks for your domination squad last weekend ML those were fun matches with and against you guys! Nothing different I run std gear 90% of my time anyway... Same here so no big difference in playstyle. Korvin still doing Domination? Yupp from time to time i normally have both skrim and domi checked for pubs
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1469	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:15:00 - [17] - Quote If i play in my standard bpo set it makes no diffrence how many new blueberries i go through, but vs the squad on the otherside, i might need my proto gear to compete against 6 players in protogear, its already 6 vs 1. Wouldnt wanna get my enemies thinking that Rei Shepard got soft. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2168	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:16:00 - [18] - Quote I allready run around in std only i still get 30 plus kills and i make wwwwaaayy more isk :-). Also yeh never gunna the forum population makes up less 1% of Dust514 players. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 536	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:21:00 - [19] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: No. Imma cap out as quick as possible. Since we get 5x the SP per match but the cap is only 3x as normal shouldn't we be able to vcap out faster anyway? No because it's only 5x multiplier on WPs earned, base is still the same at 1x. It's going to be a very long week. I don't know why they never change the base, that is always so much more fun and quicker to cap. Now we get the WP whores...lots of logis with proto equipment and lots of pub stomping.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1838	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:22:00 - [20] - Quote I mostly run meta 1 loadouts anyway so yeah I'm down with continuing to do so SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System

Vanell Sin Dust2Dust. Top Men. 39	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:22:00 - [21] - Quote Ican can wear and afford Proto but im always in std cause hardocre mode Its funnier in std and you can sharpen your skills Im playing since Uprising 1.0 and still have 8m SP.Im I doing something wrong?
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 233	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:25:00 - [22] - Quote I don't care about the new player base it's al about me and only me. Every one gets 50 000 a pop killing me in this ongoing event but I have to kill ppl with nova knifes to get anything in return. Yeah I will proto stomp, spam militia tanks do whatever it takes to stomp the reds face throw the grownd. War never changes
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 536	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:28:00 - [23] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: I don't care about the new player base it's al about me and only me. Every one gets 50 000 a pop killing me in this ongoing event but I have to kill ppl with nova knifes to get anything in return. Yeah I will proto stomp, spam militia tanks do whatever it takes to stomp the reds face throw the grownd. If your are focusing on killing only in the next event then you are doing it wrong. You just want WPs...a logi repping, hacking, and reviving is so much better than a straight up killer.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 242	Posted - 2014.01.20 11:29:00 - [24] - Quote Eh. Usually run standard/adv in pubs already. Was planning on a good week of proto stomping to cap quickly due to work and real life. We'll see how it turns out. Highly doubt the usual pub stomp corps will be running anything but proto this week as usual. Good luck to all, hope you guys saved an omega booster for this event. 1.2mil SP here I come.
Summer Sault Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 26	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:26:00 - [25] - Quote My prototype fits and advanced fits will be deleted during the SP event. Good idea, more people should get on board! ;) \ Not that it really matters if I wear prototype or not,but still.... Hello, Worlds!
Happy Violentime L0ST PR0FITS 180	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:39:00 - [26] - Quote STD TANK LULZ! I have no issues with protosuits it's the ******* tanks dude.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 421	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:42:00 - [27] - Quote I don't protostomp in pubs, but against the Minmatar, I don't hold back.
Nestil Seraphim Auxiliaries 101	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:42:00 - [28] - Quote nah i wont happen... this game just has too many tryhards
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 30	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:47:00 - [29] - Quote Nestil wrote: nah i wont happen... this game just has too many tryhards Also no tanks Nyan sayns kd would fall so hard and they have to q sync like noobs and all be heavies with core focued reps
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 30	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:47:00 - [30] - Quote Vanell Sin wrote: Ican can wear and afford Proto but im always in std cause hardocre mode Its funnier in std and you can sharpen your skills That would explain alot....

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4370	Posted - 2014.01.20 12:56:00 - [31] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So I should worry about those guys having fun but I'm still getting revived by a blueberry in the middle of firefight? The blueberry doesn't even shoot at enemies when we are under attack, but waits until another blueberry is dead and the red is close to death before he pulls his trigger? The same blueberry who complains about a reload skip/cancel animation? The same blueberry who will just sit in the MCC when the poop hits the fan? And you want people to put aside their hard work to get to where they are now just for the fun of blueberry? I say no. Stop babying these blueberries. You didn't learn how to tackle or play football by playing in air conditioned padded room, did you? Blueberries need to organize and work with other blueberries. you don't learn how to play if your constantly getting tackled by the best players on the team either, to stop doing that they need to learn, to learn they need an environment where they can succeed, they need an environment that they will want to experience and enjoy, none of which will happen if they just keep getting shat on by vets like yourself. don't complain about the blueberry, teach him what he's doing wrong, get him involved in the game, make him a better player. we do that, we might gain a new community member and we'll improve the community's attitude and tone. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Mortedeamor 1264	Posted - 2014.01.20 13:31:00 - [32] - Quote lols riiiiight jihhhaders = av lvl 0 swarm master = av lvl 99+
noobsniper the 2nd cobra connection Public Disorder. 122	Posted - 2014.01.20 13:35:00 - [33] - Quote I haven't used std gear in weeks I don't think I have any fits for it either just call me scumbag noob
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 146	Posted - 2014.01.20 13:46:00 - [34] - Quote No. i'm about to use all proto logistic all week to gain max wp/battle so I'm repping and fielding hives (proto ones) all over the place. My gun in std or adv (assault combet rifle, mmm.. I love it..) but I rarely use it. If solo... thale's . I hope there will be lots of researchfacility battles (domination) because it's the best map to farm some sweet wp's Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 93	Posted - 2014.01.20 13:54:00 - [35] - Quote Im always in my Advanced gear anyway so, yeah, I'll do it. =)
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2096	Posted - 2014.01.20 14:20:00 - [36] - Quote no cause why should i care about new player experience? I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 130	Posted - 2014.01.20 14:41:00 - [37] - Quote I love the sentiment, considering I'm one of the few newberries to migrate to the forum after so short a time in game. However, as this very post demonstrates, only 1/4 of the forum player base demonstrates compassion, understanding, for the newberry cause. Sportsmanship and honor is a lacking quality amongst these mercs, and will continue to be so till an over arching reason to play besides grinding sp/risk/ kills is introduced. I of course, will be rolling standard gear, with an advance AR, as always. And yes I have proto gear, I got my duvolle this morning and have plenty state proto assaults. To those of you have posted their desire to honor this agreement, I thank you, and encourage our to hold out. The desire to run protos will tear at you, but please refrain. Remember that week, remember the difficulties you may face running just standard gear, look at your kdr, and weep. And then remember that your standard suit is practicly as good as an advance, because of your skills. Remember that those newberries around you are not running in a 6 man squad. Also, proto AVers, don't stop running proto AV. Tankers, and tank spammers, need to die. I feel bad for the real newberry who falls to your forge, but I pity more the 10 newberries who fall to that tank due to its indestructible nature in relation to the AV options available to newberries. And well, most tankers won't park their proto plaster madrugar for a match, never mind a week. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 628	Posted - 2014.01.20 14:45:00 - [38] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: If i play in my standard bpo set it makes no diffrence how many new blueberries i go through, but vs the squad on the otherside, i might need my proto gear to compete against 6 players in protogear, its already 6 vs 1. Wouldnt wanna get my enemies thinking that Rei Shepard got soft. I hope I can get my aim to your level. Damn. I run ADV though :) Makes me feel baws when a proto logi runs after me and then hides behind a column because it went the wrong way. No longer a shield of Cat Merc.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 74	Posted - 2014.01.20 16:05:00 - [39] - Quote TLDR - people are more fussed about stupid KDR`s and being "the best" than the good of the community. To be honest its not their responsibility. CCP should have set up a much longer academy with way more training involved. I was in a match yesterday where the blue berries had no idea what was going on. They had been playing for around an hour and randomly joined our squad. They got the basic gist of the game types but had no idea about weapon and suit levels and just how much of a difference they make. On top of that they were being killed by things like forge guns and they were like "What the hell is a forge gun?" looking around like it was a rifle of some sort, never thinking to look up in high places, to expect a heavy suit or what really to expect from it. Also the way spawning works seemed to have them baffled until I explained how they could use equipment and things like drop uplinks to place a spawn beacon. All of this real basic stuff they should get at least a reasonable grasp on before they leave the academy its absurd.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 656	Posted - 2014.01.20 16:50:00 - [40] - Quote I will not run proto gear for that time either. Then again, I will not be playing due to real life commitments. But at least, I will be honoring the no proto gear in spirit.

DR FEB DARKSTAR ARMY 141	Posted - 2014.01.20 16:53:00 - [41] - Quote never gona happen just like me giving up.imma fighter ans so should everybody else HTFU -Put a dick in a their mouths so I guess it's fuck what they say -I'm so awesome,when I walk in a pub, I raise the bar
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 116	Posted - 2014.01.20 16:55:00 - [42] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: With the upcoming accelerated SP week (Jan. 22-29) I propose to make this week a no proto, no advanced gear week. Yea, I know, but hear me out. I see people, probably new players, going 0/5, 0/8, 0/12 or even worse in every single match and I can not imagine that these guys are having any fun whatsoever. But we need more people to stick to this game if we want it to succeed. I'd imagine that many people who have given up on this game might return for this event to see if the game got any better and additionally this event is a good opportunity for new players to catch up on SP. So what we as a community can do is make it a little easier for those guys to get into the game and have fun without getting roflstomped 23/7. At least for one week. So, for just this one week, I'd ask everyone of this lovely community to only use standard dropsuits, weapons, and modules in pub matches. (you are free to use whatever you like in FW and PC, of course) I know I can not stop everyone from using proto gear and the trolls will inevitably keep stomping, but the more people participate the better. even without advanced gear veterans will still have more than enough bonuses from their skills and knowledge about the game to distinguish themselves from the rest of the people. You can not lose anything, except your KDR might take a slight hit, if you care for such silly things. So, if you are with me on this, please let your corpmates know about this aswell, and refrain from using anything but standard gear for this one week. Just 1 week. Thanks. im sure if you can convince nyian san/chan everyone else would be willing to ...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it. i eat babies forum warrior Lv0
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2014.01.20 17:23:00 - [43] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: With the upcoming accelerated SP week (Jan. 22-29) I propose to make this week a no proto, no advanced gear week. Yea, I know, but hear me out. I see people, probably new players, going 0/5, 0/8, 0/12 or even worse in every single match and I can not imagine that these guys are having any fun whatsoever. But we need more people to stick to this game if we want it to succeed. I'd imagine that many people who have given up on this game might return for this event to see if the game got any better and additionally this event is a good opportunity for new players to catch up on SP. So what we as a community can do is make it a little easier for those guys to get into the game and have fun without getting roflstomped 23/7. At least for one week. So, for just this one week, I'd ask everyone of this lovely community to only use standard dropsuits, weapons, and modules in pub matches. (you are free to use whatever you like in FW and PC, of course) I know I can not stop everyone from using proto gear and the trolls will inevitably keep stomping, but the more people participate the better. even without advanced gear veterans will still have more than enough bonuses from their skills and knowledge about the game to distinguish themselves from the rest of the people. You can not lose anything, except your KDR might take a slight hit, if you care for such silly things. So, if you are with me on this, please let your corpmates know about this aswell, and refrain from using anything but standard gear for this one week. Just 1 week. Thanks. I was going to suggest Noob Tuesdays. The discussion of pub stomps always devolves into one group calling new players whiners and that they should get good and the other camp calling the other bullies. There are whiners and there are bullies, including some of those who answered but t've squadded with some of the stompers randomly a few times and they are nice, helpful guys. They have a point that they are just playing the game as it was intended, to kill the other team, but there is also no doubt that the stomping hurts the game for everybody (except the bullies who like no challenge killing). The solution should be CCP's but it isn't as easy a fix as it would seem. I have yet to play a Multiplayer that handles it really well. So the solution has to come from the players, and only the more experienced, better players can change it. I'm surprised but pleased to see ML suggesting this, they have been the most prominent and one of the most blatant pubstompers I have seen. I don't doubt they are mostly good guys who just like playing well, but the effect has been to decimate the new ranks. I personally have invited 5 friends, all experienced gamers much better than me to play Dust, even started my own corp in anticipation. All of them quit after one night because of the stomps and the futility of playing without committing 2 months to getting a chance. I think they are the norm, not the exception.
Jebus McKing Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 242	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:57:00 - [44] - Quote Hahaha, seems like there are more douchebags in this community than I thought... jk, jk! (but it is true) I'm surprised that ML has such a bad reputation (I personally never use proto suits in pub matches.) and I want to make clear that I'm not officially speaking for ML. This proposal is not an official ML one but a personal one from my side. I can not say if any of my corpmates will join me, but I hope so. Yes, I agree that it is upon CCP to improve the new player experience, but I think we as a community also can do something to make this game more fun for new players every once in a while. At least for as long as the NPE is not fixed. I don't think that this is too much to ask for. But I can also understand if people want to use this event to grind a ton of WP, so I have a new proposal: Lets try to keep at least one game mode, lets say pub Skirmishes, free from stomping. Maybe I was aiming too high with my first proposal, but I hope we can all agree on this one. Thanks. @JebusMcKing // Rifle stats comparison spreadsheet. ò_Ô
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1991	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:00:00 - [45] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: You can not lose anything, except your KDR might take a slight hit, if you care for such silly things. I could say the same about ISK i say we all run proto to get SP as quickly as possible so you lose some ISK but why should you care about such a silly thing. Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 94	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:35:00 - [46] - Quote I don't normally run proto in pubs anyway, so I'm on board with this. Perhaps add a big brothers/big sister element and find one person fresh out of the academy, squad with them for a bit, give them fitting advice, tactical/strategy tips and maybe 1 million isk in seed money to try out fittings. -Aramis
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 139	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:46:00 - [47] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Hahaha, seems like there are more douchebags in this community than I thought... jk, jk! (but it is true) I'm surprised that ML has such a bad reputation (I personally never use proto suits in pub matches.) and I want to make clear that I'm not officially speaking for ML. This proposal is not an official ML one but a personal one from my side. I can not say if any of my corpmates will join me, but I hope so. Yes, I agree that it is upon CCP to improve the new player experience, but I think we as a community also can do something to make this game more fun for new players every once in a while. At least for as long as the NPE is not fixed. I don't think that this is too much to ask for. But I can also understand if people want to use this event to grind a ton of WP, so I have a new proposal: Lets try to keep at least one game mode, lets say pub Skirmishes, free from stomping. Maybe I was aiming too high with my first proposal, but I hope we can all agree on this one. Thanks. From what I have seen it is not so much that ML actively tries to stomp, just that they are doing it incidently. The effect is still the same. There sheer number of your payers and their relatively high sp amounts causes your corp squads to regularly be OP. It does not seem to be intended, your just running with your corp mates, much as I do, but your members are more experienced andbetter equip, and done ttheir proto gear without a second thought, which is just the nature of most proto players. You also tend to have multiple corp squads running at one time which may result in que syncs without being intended. In MLs case it seems mostly to be a case of ignorance, then purposely stomping. However the net effect is still the same, and without an active attempt to ch#nge the mindset of your members, it will continue. Unfortunately there also elements of your corp that do know their doing it, and enjoy doing so, as some of your own corp mates replies n this thread show. I have squared with many proto stompers at various times, thou I tend to avoid such circumstances now, and they are in general decent enough folk. Competitive, hard working, enthusiastic players anyone would be glad to squad with for a match or two. That does not however make them sympathetic to newberries, nor make them acknowledge the effect their actions have, much as a common soldier thinks little of what colkatoral damage may occur from his mission, at least not at the time. Its leaderships job to make sure their common corpmate behaves in a befitting way, and lacking that guidance they will do as they please, and often remain ignoran of the concewuences of their actions. This be fact begets a cycle in which proto stompers feel the need to proto stomp, weather it be in defence against other protos, or simply because they can, and they often do this without regard for others outside their corp, squad, friends, etc. The newberries who survive this feel the need to do the same, and feel justified because it is what they paid their dues dealing with, and often become jaded by this point. In effect protostomping is somewhat like the cold war arms race. Each corp feels the need to field better and better equipment, and having this equipment they feel the need to use it, to test it. As it happens more often the players feel the need to do it more, to compete and fund their wars with the other power houses, and to improve their skills. Newberry pubs are like Korea and Vietnam, an inderect war against the other powerhouses. A way to increase their military power and status without having to engage the other military power houses directly too often. You grind your risk, your sp, and then field the equipment that is earned because you earned it, and because the other power houses did it. The problem is there are no real lives at stake, and so the worth of a newberry is barely register. Y your common proto player, nor by the leadership of the larger corps. It was the value of human life that ended the arms race and stopped all out war during the cold war, with that value non existent, and no real risk involved, players use jier nukes (protos) without qualms, pubs and newberries are just he test subjects, income, and collateral damage. Dust needs a Geneva convention. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2284	Posted - 2014.01.20 22:23:00 - [48] - Quote Proposing gentlemens rules in a mercenary game is amusing if ill-informed. Pile on the additional motivation of bonus sp and skill cap as well and people will run what they need in order to hit their goals. Hail Satan
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2014.01.21 00:01:00 - [49] - Quote I doubt this will happen. It may persuade some to put the proto gear away for a week, but I doubt it. Good efort though. I suspect most of the proto users would still do very well with Standard gear. They just fear losing a few points on their stats. I only use standard suits and guns. I know it is possible to kill these top proto users with the standard gear. I know they could do the same, and do it better than I. If only we had kill mails in DUST. EVE players get kill mails for DUST players, so I know CCP could just give them to us. If the proto users could see how bad their ISK efficiency was it would become a stat they cared about. We would hopefully see less proto stomping then. Not to mention the player retention. I would have a lot of fun being proto stomped if I got several kill mails of high level proto users to show off for it. I could care less about dying a dozen times with my 13K ISK suit if I got to take out 4 proto users with 100K+ fits. It would just improve my PVP stats in my book.
J0LLY R0G3R Tickle My Null-Sac 384	Posted - 2014.01.21 01:33:00 - [50] - Quote lol goodluck XD XD Indeed, chase me friend XD

lee corwood Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 385	Posted - 2014.01.21 01:42:00 - [51] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: I don't know why they never change the base, that is always so much more fun and quicker to cap. Now we get the WP whores...lots of logis with proto equipment and lots of pub stomping. Not this logisis. Full support logi who really can't afford to lose my 200k suit in a regular pub match Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1983	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:03:00 - [52] - Quote I run BPO most of the time anyway. sounds like fun, I'll only bust out proto to counter other proto gear. Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1064	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:11:00 - [53] - Quote Sounds good to me... I've been doing this every week for the past year.
Cooper Eudaemon DUST University Ivy League 115	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:51:00 - [54] - Quote Good sportsmanship is in appallingly short supply here, but I salute and support your effort. I need a break from Dust! I'll just go hop on the forums... I need a break from the forums! I'll just go hop on Dust...
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2731	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:03:00 - [55] - Quote Mregomies wrote: No. i'm about to use all proto logistic all week to gain max wp/battle so I'm repping and fielding hives (proto ones) all over the place. My gun in std or adv (assault combet rifle, mmm.. I love it..) but I rarely use it. If solo... thale's . I hope there will be lots of researchfacility battles (domination) because it's the best map to farm some sweet wp's I call that the "Meat-grinder" map, and I love the way it encourages the use of my uplinks and triage hives. When I'm not busy replacing equipment I'll break out a needle and rep tool. It's not guaranteed though, as I've been in a redline match there and my stuff was hardly touched.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 181	Posted - 2014.01.21 07:10:00 - [56] - Quote I like this proposal. I will run standard or mil fits only in Skirmish during this week. I actually like this idea as a permanent fixture. I don't think it's too much to ask that the community, of it's own volition, makes one public game mode be friendly to the NPE. CCP apparently doesn't care much about it, since they do nothing about a topic that regularly generates threadnauts on their own forums -- otherwise, they would have done something about it by now. I've been here a year, and in all the time we got the Academy, in which no noob spends any significant period of time there to matter. The only conclusion is that they prefer the NPE to be brutal. I think it's a (possibly fatal) mistake on their part, but I'm just a weekend warrior lacking the NDA-knowledge of a dev or CPM, so wtf do I know... but still, it should give CCP more pause than what they show publicly. Most of the protostomping will be in Ambush, I'm sure, which anybody with any sense stays out of anyways, but I'm sure it will be a miserable week for most noobs, whatever game mode they play. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 227	Posted - 2014.01.21 08:24:00 - [57] - Quote hell I'll do it sounds good to me. actually i take that back im gonna run proto against proto but keep track of the low pointing players and if I am in a proto fit when I see one imma let them kill me. if im in standards fights on boys.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 227	Posted - 2014.01.21 08:27:00 - [58] - Quote actually on my logi alt I'm fitting for full logi and logi-ing the **** out of some care bears
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 227	Posted - 2014.01.21 08:34:00 - [59] - Quote from the event page Earn extra Skill Points during the week of January 22 to 29. During the week, you will receive 5 times the normal SP from War Points earned during a match. The weekly Skill Point cap will be boosted to 3 times the normal amount during the week as well. This will be a short week which will also be good for the BB, tryhards will get in get out and get on with life.
Jebus McKing Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 262	Posted - 2014.01.22 10:18:00 - [60] - Quote Ok guys, no proto week starting in a few minutes. I'd like to thank everyone who is willing to participate and keep pub Skirmishes free from proto and advanced gear to make life a little easier for new players. If you are not willing to quit using proto gear I'd ask you to not play pub Skirmishes and instead use the other game modes to stomp and farm WP. Thanks. @JebusMcKing // Rifle stats comparison spreadsheet. ò_Ô

Jackof All-Trades The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 345	Posted - 2014.01.22 10:35:00 - [61] - Quote I don't care if this isn't honoured, I'll go along with it! It'll mean me making money easier anyway. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1627	Posted - 2014.01.22 10:45:00 - [62] - Quote I would love for this kind of event to happen, however coming across another NK wielding scout and engaging in an honourable knife duel to have them switch back to their primary before even trying to duel has lead me to the conclusion that Echivalry is dead. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Teilka Darkmist 37	Posted - 2014.01.22 10:54:00 - [63] - Quote I'm probably not going to be able to use most proto gear by this point (most likely only sniper rifles which I don't use protos of at the moment anyway due to lack of pg and cpu on my dropsuits). But I might drop back to basic and militia gear for a match or two, for the 'lols'. (More accurately for the challenge of it). I wonder how many would do it if they made it an event with rewards for using basic and militia gear only. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 164	Posted - 2014.01.22 12:53:00 - [64] - Quote Well so far, no proto week, is not being followed by the following corps: Nyansan/chan (no surprise) Mottqnai japan (no surprise) Ravenclaw something or other That's as of 12:52 dust time. Will update as more become known Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Jebus McKing Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 264	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:00:00 - [65] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Well so far, no proto week, is not being followed by the following corps: Nyansan/chan (no surprise) Mottqnai japan (no surprise) Ravenclaw something or other That's as of 12:52 dust time. Will update as more become known Please do not call people out. It won't help. Also you can't say for sure if they are deliberately ignoring (or even trying to exploit) this event or if they just don't know about it. Not everyone is reading the forums. Just keep using standard-only fittings yourself and ignore the trolls. Thanks. @JebusMcKing // Rifle stats comparison spreadsheet. ò_Ô
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 164	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:13:00 - [66] - Quote Jebus, I'm beyond caring if it works, if it warns one lil nooberry that looks on here I'm happy. If it makes people actually do something, better ******* yet. But I'll leave it out of your thread, my apologies. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 164	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:16:00 - [67] - Quote Also removed my post if you want to delete the quote, so t doesn't result in any unwanted rage in your thread. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Not The CEO Nothecorp... 3	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:26:00 - [68] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: I don't care about the new player base it's al about me and only me. Every one gets 50 000 a pop killing me in this ongoing event but I have to kill ppl with nova knifes to get anything in return. Yeah I will proto stomp, spam militia tanks do whatever it takes to stomp the reds face throw the grownd. Idiot. You are so irrelevant my pet pig won't aknowledge you.. D1cklord#2
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 566	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:31:00 - [69] - Quote J0hlss0n wrote: Im always in my Advanced gear anyway so, yeah, I'll do it. =) Yes you are, if you ran your proto there would be many tears, what's up buddy? CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 566	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:35:00 - [70] - Quote devonus durga wrote: I love the sentiment, considering I'm one of the few newberries to migrate to the forum after so short a time in game. However, as this very post demonstrates, only 1/4 of the forum player base demonstrates compassion, understanding, for the newberry cause. Sportsmanship and honor is a lacking quality amongst these mercs, and will continue to be so till an over arching reason to play besides grinding sp/risk/ kills is introduced. I of course, will be rolling standard gear, with an advance AR, as always. And yes I have proto gear, I got my duvolle this morning and have plenty state proto assaults. To those of you have posted their desire to honor this agreement, I thank you, and encourage our to hold out. The desire to run protos will tear at you, but please refrain. Remember that week, remember the difficulties you may face running just standard gear, look at your kdr, and weep. And then remember that your standard suit is practicly as good as an advance, because of your skills. Remember that those newberries around you are not running in a 6 man squad. Also, proto AVers, don't stop running proto AV. Tankers, and tank spammers, need to die. I feel bad for the real newberry who falls to your forge, but I pity more the 10 newberries who fall to that tank due to its indestructible nature in relation to the AV options available to newberries. And well, most tankers won't park their proto plaster madrugar for a match, never mind a week. Ran against a squad of you guys last night a couple battles in a row, good fights. 99% of the time we roll STD gear anyway so nothing out of the ordinary, no proto from Death Firm and I am spreading the word throughout the alliance as well. See you on the letters... CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"

CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 567	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:48:00 - [71] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Hahaha, seems like there are more douchebags in this community than I thought... jk, jk! (but it is true) I'm surprised that ML has such a bad reputation (I personally never use proto suits in pub matches.) and I want to make clear that I'm not officially speaking for ML. This proposal is not an official ML one but a personal one from my side. I can not say if any of my corpmates will join me, but I hope so. Yes, I agree that it is upon CCP to improve the new player experience, but I think we as a community also can do something to make this game more fun for new players every once in a while. At least for as long as the NPE is not fixed. I don't think that this is too much to ask for. But I can also understand if people want to use this event to grind a ton of WP, so I have a new proposal: Lets try to keep at least one game mode, lets say pub Skirmishes, free from stomping. Maybe I was aiming too high with my first proposal, but I hope we can all agree on this one. Thanks. I commend you Jebus, I have friends in ML and some of you don't run proto every day. There some that really take it to a new level such as camping a CRU in a proto suit and spamming remote explosives just to be azzholes, not naming names. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 552	Posted - 2014.01.22 13:53:00 - [72] - Quote Wont bother me, I only even upgrade to ADV once in a while. Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 856	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:04:00 - [73] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: With the upcoming accelerated SP week (Jan. 22-29) I propose to make this week a no proto, no advanced gear week. Yea, I know, but hear me out. I see people, probably new players, going 0/5, 0/8, 0/12 or even worse in every single match and I can not imagine that these guys are having any fun whatsoever. But we need more people to stick to this game if we want it to succeed. I'd imagine that many people who have given up on this game might return for this event to see if the game got any better and additionally this event is a good opportunity for new players to catch up on SP. So what we as a community can do is make it a little easier for those guys to get into the game and have fun without getting roflstomped 23/7. At least for one week. So, for just this one week, I'd ask everyone of this lovely community to only use standard dropsuits, weapons, and modules in pub matches. (you are free to use whatever you like in FW and PC, of course) I know I can not stop everyone from using proto gear and the trolls will inevitably keep stomping, but the more people participate the better. even without advanced gear veterans will still have more than enough bonuses from their skills and knowledge about the game to distinguish themselves from the rest of the people. You can not lose anything, except your KDR might take a slight hit, if you care for such silly things. So, if you are with me on this, please let your corpmates know about this aswell, and refrain from using anything but standard gear for this one week. Just 1 week. Thanks. EDIT: Jebus McKing wrote: But I can also understand if people want to use this event to grind a ton of WP, so I have a new proposal: Lets try to keep at least one game mode, lets say pub Skirmishes, free from stomping. Maybe I was aiming too high with my first proposal, but I hope we can all agree on this one. you should make a list of yes and nos..... oh how i love lists. - LOGI REGISTRY / H.O.F. *NEW SEC ADDED -
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 439	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:24:00 - [74] - Quote BRING OUT THE PROTO TRAIN!! TOOT TOOT!! Nuff Said
dullrust Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:35:00 - [75] - Quote I doubt that my corp will. still most of us usually don't run proto. There are times we are left with no choice though. What I do love about this is how low the payouts will be for the stompers. 200k suit? here have 120k payout. May your kdr rise and your isk sink.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 569	Posted - 2014.01.22 16:34:00 - [76] - Quote dullrust wrote: I doubt that my corp will. still most of us usually don't run proto. There are times we are left with no choice though. What I do love about this is how low the payouts will be for the stompers. 200k suit? here have 120k payout. May your kdr rise and your isk sink. Cause you know KDR is everything. LOL!!! CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 283	Posted - 2014.01.22 16:45:00 - [77] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Ok guys, no proto week starting in a few minutes. I'd like to thank everyone who is willing to participate and keep pub Skirmishes free from proto and advanced gear to make life a little easier for new players. If you are not willing to quit using proto gear I'd ask you to not play pub Skirmishes and instead use the other game modes to stomp and farm WP. Thanks. Looks up from polishing Boundless HMG
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 100	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:05:00 - [78] - Quote Solo with std gear... dont try... http://imgur.com/9KNp7IE And yeah public domination scotty kinda hates me... nice matchmaking.... Still gonna try to play with std unless Rei "the beast" Shepard is on the red side... then it will be some kinky playstyle with overexpensive protodonna gear I really dont have a clue how to use in full effect... "If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you." Snowflake in hell those are my odds in ambush
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command 976	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:14:00 - [79] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: You didn't learn how to tackle or play football by playing in air conditioned padded room, did you? ... No... Lore-wise: Calamari are my preferred. Amarricans are my despised. Importantly: Frogs n' Brutes have all my stuff...
Toro Navajo Defenders of the Helghast Dream 25	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:24:00 - [80] - Quote This would be awesome if you could pull it off, If there were say..10 corps that agreed, I would make sure my Corp joined. We could make a chat channel and try and get into matches at the same time. Let me know if you can gather the 10 corps with 20 members or more.

Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:25:00 - [81] - Quote No, but my first game and every practice match wasn't against pro teams, in full gear, going all out. How about you?
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:28:00 - [82] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Michael Arck wrote: You didn't learn how to tackle or play football by playing in air conditioned padded room, did you? ... No... Sorry, this is the post I was responding to above.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 496	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:31:00 - [83] - Quote I almost (only one weapon on one suit is higher than STD) never use anything higher than standard on my dropsuits. In fact half of them are MLT-STD hybrids. Green technology baby. I really have to laugh at people who can't put down PRO suits for a week. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:32:00 - [84] - Quote I don't know if this attempt was successful but Monday night was the most enjoyable night I have had in Dust, probably 5 really close fun battles and a couple that went lopsided but weren't stomps. Last night though it was back to usual with a well known corp running a full squad with proto, dropsies and tanks added for effect.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2710	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:41:00 - [85] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: No, but my first game and every practice match wasn't against pro teams, in full gear, going all out. How about you? Freshman, on the boards, going up against seniors in practice that helped clear out any sinus problems I was having. The point is, the blueberries need to be taught how to fight. The exclusion of prototype suits doesn't train them. Yet the blueberry still doesn't have battlefield awareness. He still drops uplinks facing the wall. He still revives people in the middle of a gunfight. While the idea is commendable, the truth is it doesn't train the blueberry anything. My coach didn't put me up against freshmens when we did tackling. They put me up against seniors in order for me to gain experience of what happens when I get on the field for a game. Coaches didn't soften up practice just for us to get a handle. Hell, our T-shirts had on em, "Go Hard or Go Home" I don't know, I come from a different background than most. Not to say that makes me better than anybody else, that's not what I'm implying. But where I come from, the toughness is what built character and instilled skills that aren't perishable as opposed to someone getting the easy way out all the time. Just to add, I run adv fits in pubs anyway. But there has been some tough matches where the prototype is necessary to bring out. If I run across those situations, I will do it. And when its done to me, I don't get mad. I find a way to get even. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 183	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:33:00 - [86] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: The point is, the blueberries need to be taught how to fight. The exclusion of prototype suits doesn't train them. Yet the blueberry still doesn't have battlefield awareness. He still drops uplinks facing the wall. He still revives people in the middle of a gunfight. While the idea is commendable, the truth is it doesn't train the blueberry anything. My coach didn't put me up against freshmens when we did tackling. They put me up against seniors in order for me to gain experience of what happens when I get on the field for a game. Coaches didn't soften up practice just for us to get a handle. Hell, our T-shirts had on em, "Go Hard or Go Home" I don't know, I come from a different background than most. Not to say that makes me better than anybody else, that's not what I'm implying. But where I come from, the toughness is what built character and instilled skills that aren't perishable as opposed to someone getting the easy way out all the time. I see where you are coming from, but the problem is this is a video game, which is supposed to be both enjoyable and challenging, and the NPE is neither of those. It is unenjoyable and brutal for most, which is why we have few new players. What you propose is fine for real life, but this game is what most of us are doing as a temporary escape from real life, as a way to unwind after a hard day of being challenged at work, at school, or on the football field. It's fine for a game to be challenging, and everybody's idea of how "difficult" their entertainment should be to consume is different. Personally, I like whatever entertains me to challenge me on a somewhat higher level than what most people would probably consider enjoyable -- and I suspect most of the Dust/Eve community feel the same, otherwise they wouldn't be playing this game. But it can't be so difficult that a person begins to feel iike there is no progression, which is what being stomped feels like. Then it just sucks, and makes people want to do something else. And that's bad for this community. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
Andius Fidelitas The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 108	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:35:00 - [87] - Quote How about a big cup of no.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2714	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:47:00 - [88] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: Michael Arck wrote: The point is, the blueberries need to be taught how to fight. The exclusion of prototype suits doesn't train them. Yet the blueberry still doesn't have battlefield awareness. He still drops uplinks facing the wall. He still revives people in the middle of a gunfight. While the idea is commendable, the truth is it doesn't train the blueberry anything. My coach didn't put me up against freshmens when we did tackling. They put me up against seniors in order for me to gain experience of what happens when I get on the field for a game. Coaches didn't soften up practice just for us to get a handle. Hell, our T-shirts had on em, "Go Hard or Go Home" I don't know, I come from a different background than most. Not to say that makes me better than anybody else, that's not what I'm implying. But where I come from, the toughness is what built character and instilled skills that aren't perishable as opposed to someone getting the easy way out all the time. I see where you are coming from, but the problem is this is a video game, which is supposed to be both enjoyable and challenging, and the NPE is neither of those. It is unenjoyable and brutal for most, which is why we have few new players. What you propose is fine for real life, but this game is what most of us are doing as a temporary escape from real life, as a way to unwind after a hard day of being challenged at work, at school, or on the football field. It's fine for a game to be challenging, and everybody's idea of how "difficult" their entertainment should be to consume is different. Personally, I like whatever entertains me to challenge me on a somewhat higher level than what most people would probably consider enjoyable -- and I suspect most of the Dust/Eve community feel the same, otherwise they wouldn't be playing this game. But it can't be so difficult that a person begins to feel iike there is no progression, which is what being stomped feels like. Then it just sucks, and makes people want to do something else. And that's bad for this community. What I'm talking about is a mindset that can be applied to all things. That "don't give up and continue the fight" type of attitude. It's nonsense to say "well this isn't real life so that doesn't apply here" when we are in competitive gaming world where winning and losing matters. If this is just a video game, then why are we even having this discussion on prototypes? Win and losing doesn't change in both worlds. I was talking with a guy the other day when we were doing some Caldari FW. We were discussing about the first time we arrived to New Eden and the hardships we faced. He said to me, "You know man, it takes a certain character to tough this game out. Cause, you know, you get a major whooping when you first come here and you have to take it. You just have to take it. It takes a certain strong character to make it through that. Man, there were some days I was just so pissed. But I stuck with it and I'm glad I did. It's made me a better player." It was refreshing to hear someone view the New Eden experience objectively and truthfully. It's a glaring problem with the gaming community as a whole and its not just with Dust. Games have progressively gotten easier to accommodate for less skilled players. I remember in my youth, the games I played then were way more difficult than games now. Games nowadays hold your hands. Pop up tutorials throughout the whole game and button icons. Yet, Demon's Souls is celebrated and acknowledged for its difficulty but ironically all games were like that back then. Folks have just grown soft. While I do support game modes that exclude prototype suits for newer players, at the same time, I remember my first arrival here. I went through the trial by fire and it made me a not so bad mercenary. They can do the same themselves. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 164	Posted - 2014.01.23 04:31:00 - [89] - Quote Well it seems the usual guys said ** this idea, triple SP "lets see which corp can be the biggest cunts" que sync FW? ** that lets que sync pubs lol, the people who play this game are pathetic and so are the devs for enabling this type of behavior =). What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 645	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:11:00 - [90] - Quote There will never be a fix where proto is removed so that players can have a private wading pool to pee in. What can happen is Corp Battles could return and if done properly could attract these roaming squads. Emphasis on "done properly." Higher SP / ISK yield for higher tier competition. Not saying raise weekly cap, but getting them to achieve it faster might make them more restless in PC and if you have ever lurked the War Room you know they are itching to beat the **** out of each other. Up and coming corps would have a proving ground outside of pubs and pfc so they wouldn't have to flex in pubs for rep. "Because beer, that's why."

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2730	Posted - 2014.01.23 05:50:00 - [91] - Quote Corp battles FTW! This would be an excellent tool for training since PFC is basically a dead fish in the water. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1727	Posted - 2014.01.23 06:39:00 - [92] - Quote Noooo not my advanced gear "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein


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