EVE online is not the be all end all of what Dust could be. We have this tiny player base, it has its disadvantages and its advantages. Simply saying its human nature to group up and stomp on the indies and not trying just isn't gonna cut it anymore. You wot have fun? We wot have fun.

So lets fix this sh** together. We have only scratched the surface of what a sandbox game can become at the hands of a tiny community with PFC.

This is a real possibility and all it will take is for those A division corps to enforce these rules. We have the power to push everyone out of MH, thats obvious because we already do. So it is well within our power to get a handful of leaders together and set something similar to this up. Farming isk is fun and all, but I feel we're at the stage of the game where we just want good fights.

F**k me, right?

Tiercide for PC?

Good luck policing that. It's put a strain on corps just dealing with PFC.

Better than whats happening now. Its a question of whether you want struggle or no competition at all. Also, corps mentioned above can more than keep the community in line.

I support the idea. It's a good concept and hopefully CCP can look at it and put a thinking cap to categorize this as high priority: district locking that is.

Everyone wants fights in PC, it's why you join PC in the first place. Veteran players don't login daily to pub stomp, they login to either get their ass handed to them or whoop up on someone else.

The only way, as mentioned - for the idea to take off, would be for fixing district locking.

Nyain San just wants Renegade to hold x amount of districts. When it comes to some players in the community though, it's hard to steer people away from ISK. That's the biggest issue PC has is the ISK rewards when you hold land.
- In order to give up a vast amount of land, means your players are being paid less. Personally, I couldn't care about ISK. I am probably one of the brokest CEO's in the game to be honest. But to some players, and AE. is guilty: ISK is what makes Dust 514 fun, and make people whine about proto stomping.

The tiered ranking is still good on paper - however, every corp in MH would have to abide by being allotted a certain amount of land. With current mechanics, you will see corporations spreading into territory outside their division. And by having "A tiered" corps regulating those rules that may be broken, it's asking common enemies to join up and fix it. To some egos, that's another issue to fix. In simpler words, your asking FA and AE. essentially to police these divisions together as a join op. That's hard convincing when we are enemies at heart.

There's a lot of underlying factors that are problematic which can not be 'fixed.' (A few mentioned above.)

At what cost does enemies have to rally up to fix a game we didn't design? Is the community making this game or is CCP? It's supposed to be CCP, but quite frankly it seems to the be community actually calling the shots. Has it's ups and downs, it's a good business idea - "the customer is always right." But economics is a customer based section of the world. Without customers, there would be no economics. In our every day jobs, we see where the saying "The customer is always right" becomes faulty. In which, they are sometimes wrong, more times than not to be fair.

It's a consensus of problems with possible fixations - it's up to CCP to implement.

Fixing district locking only guarantees more and more players give up on PC altogether and the continuing flow of ISK to an ever shrinking portion of the player base.

I support the idea. It's a good concept and hopefully CCP can look at it and put a thinking cap to categorize this as high priority: district locking that is.

Everyone wants fights in PC, it's why you join PC in the first place. Veteran players don't login daily to pub stomp, they login to either get their ass handed to them or whoop up on someone else.

The only way, as mentioned - for the idea to take off, would be for fixing district locking.

Nyain San just wants Renegade to hold x amount of districts. When it comes to some players in the community though, it's hard to steer people away from ISK. That's the biggest issue PC has is the ISK rewards when you hold land.
- In order to give up a vast amount of land, means your players are being paid less. Personally, I couldn't care about ISK. I am probably one of the brokest CEO's in the game to be honest. But to some players, and AE. is guilty: ISK is what makes Dust 514 fun, and make people whine about proto stomping.

The tiered ranking is still good on paper - however, every corp in MH would have to abide by being allotted a certain amount of land. With current mechanics, you will see corporations spreading into territory outside their division. And by having "A tiered" corps regulating those rules that may be broken, it's asking common enemies to join up and fix it. To some egos, that's another issue to fix. In simpler words, your asking FA and AE. essentially to police these divisions together as a join op. That's hard convincing when we are enemies at heart.

There's a lot of underlying factors that are problematic which can not be 'fixed.' (A few mentioned above.)

At what cost does enemies have to rally up to fix a game we didn't design? Is the community making this game or is CCP? It's supposed to be CCP, but quite frankly it seems to the be community actually calling the shots. Has it's ups and downs, it's a good business idea - "the customer is always right." But economics is a customer based section of the world. Without customers, there would be no economics. In our every day jobs, we see where the saying "The customer is always right" becomes faulty. In which, they are sometimes wrong, more times than not to be fair.

It's a consensus of problems with possible fixations - it's up to CCP to implement.

Again it's the mechanics. PC has to get away from the 24 to 48 hr wait for battles. You should be able to attack and have that battle happen within 30 minutes to an hour. This would eliminate the possibility of small groups of players from controlling huge chunks of land.

It should be a pain in the ass to face AE, but if I've got 80 people online I should be able to put pressure on them. It would be difficult for anyone to dominate even large alliances. You'd have constant battles going on.

Just allow a corp to set a window of 8-12 hours of downtime on their district. It would force corps to use players that aren't on their A teams as well. If you want to see an improvement in gameplay there needs to be a better flow in these attacks.

Take the passive ISK away and increase payouts for attacks, consecutive wins, and multipliers for consecutive successful defenses.

Fixing district locking only guarantees more and more players give up on PC altogether and the continuing flow of ISK to an ever shrinking portion of the player base.

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Window timers should be how its played. A corp sets their districts to a certain timer, and at any time during that timer, a corp could attack them and the battle would take place within the hour.

Fixing district locking is still necessary to make it fair. I know it will force more corps to quit which is why I want to immediately implement MHR after the district lock fix. It would be better if CCP implemented tiericide in PC though :/

lol maybe I should have had someone more liked by the community post this for me so it gets taken seriously...

If you take away passive ISK and provide larger payouts for successful attacks and defenses with multipliers for consecutive wins I don't think you'd have any incentive to lock districts. Small corps, no matter how good, couldn't control so much land. You'd see a lot more activity in PC and I think it wouldn't take long for the overall competitiveness to rise.

Not really... a locked district battle would still be a successful defense, which would only increase the profit of locking districts. There is no way to make locking districts less profitable without making PC less profitable in general. That goes for making it more profitable as well. District locking needs to become easily counterable.

I'm kinda disappointed this immediately became a "Lol, f**k this sh**, ima troll" thread. Then again it is the war room and I'm me so...

Still gonna keep updating the thread

u posted it in the WAR room FFS...

myb you should have proposed that when eon owned 70% of molden heath

Lets laugh at the irony of this situation right now and get it out of our systems. Now lets start:

Blah blah blah ... yadda yadda yadda ... (lets throw some more horsedung and the community)

Excusez-moi!

All this horsedung coming from someone who abused the game mechanics in every possible way... You must really like to to chew on all the horsedung coming out of your mouth right? Whats the secret ? Siracha Sauce?

After abusing the game mechanics for months you try to portray yourself as a the savior of PC just because you are so fatted up on ISK you got nothing better to do?

Creating corps and alts on Dust are like bunnies humping during peak season. There numerous ways to counter the nonsense that just came out of your mouth and the simplest thing to do is create multiple corps or alts.

KD? Seriously? All you need is a single corp with a single dude as a sniper. Get a kill... leave the game... You can statpad your alt to kingdom come.

Stick to glitching Arirana... That's your forte... Dont even try attempting anything that remotely has to do with using your common sense or lack there off.

Excusez-moi!

All this horsedung coming from someone who abused the game mechanics in every possible way... You must really like to to chew on all the horsedung coming out of your mouth right? Whats the secret ? Siracha Sauce?

After abusing the game mechanics for months you try to portray yourself as a the savior of PC just because you are so fatted up on ISK you got nothing better to do?

Creating corps and alts on Dust are like bunnies humping during peak season. There numerous ways to counter the nonsense that just came out of your mouth and the simplest thing to do is create multiple corps or alts.

KD? Seriously? All you need is a single corp with a single dude as a sniper. Get a kill... leave the game... You can statpad your alt to kingdom come.

Stick to glitching Arirana... That's your forte... Dont even try attempting anything that remotely has to do with using your common sense or lack there off.

I know alot of what you said is warranted so I'll let that slide. Furthermore, the idea behind MHR is all I was trying to portray in this post, not the final product. As I stated in the OP, I don't care for taking credit, whether this will make people like me again, or if I get rich off it. I want 2-3 constellations set aside for noob corps that want in on PC, that's it.

Unless you're willing to contribute to this idea I suggest you refrain from posting. This is like looking at Hit-ler trying to stage a humanitarian operation to atone for his sins and telling him to stfu and stay a genocidal maniac. You guys are counter-productive in your own right. Mature the fuuck up.

Now that that's out of the way, can you explain what can be countered and how from what I've stated?

If you're talking about district locking I've already considered the possibility of double locking to counter the fix, and I've estimated that if an alliance were to try and lock up their districts, at least half would be left open within a day, while ALL of their districts could be "sniped" (as what the guys at DDB like to call attacking a district in the 30 second window before they have the chance to lock it). What this fix will accomplish will make district locking alot more obvious and impossible to do constantly, as well as to make sniping districts easier and less "wait an hour spamming x" time consuming.

With MHR, the KDR requirements are held for the purpose of the Battle Royale that will take play as soon as all of the corps that want to participate have districts in their designated division. If they prove to be too weak, or too strong for their division, MHR police would demote and promote corps accordingly, as well as set more accurate requirements for each division based on some consistencies and patterns in the skill level of each corp participating based on their division. Kinda like a survey, if you will.

Im sorry! You mistake me for someone that gives a ding dong didley to what you think or say or do. You are as insignificant now as the melee glitch.

But... since you asked someone has already put in a much better sugestion than you.

It takes someone with common sense to understand that the PC issues can only be sorted out by the strong corps giving up their districts and letting the smaller corps fight it among themselves. The smaller corps dont need any policing untill something goes out of hand. You with you exceptional common or lack there off either fails to see this or doesnt give a ding dong didley. Either way its bad news.

And if you or those numnuts in AE really care why dont you dont some ISK to people or corps that dont have it? If I can have over 500 million ISK after donating to randoms along the way I dont see any reason why you wont be able to do that.

Try to take action rather than force feeding the community with that horsedung you call lollogic.

You are fuucking ignorant. First of all, he doesn't give a single fix for district locking. One thing my post has better than his.

Second, the whole idea of MHR is based off of most of strong corps, MY ALLIANCE WAS SPECIFIED, in giving up districts and handing them off to smaller corps. If you read all of the important bits instead of skipping straight to the A-B-C division requirements like a e-peen stroking idiot that has no intention of giving a shiit about anything else, you would have realized that.

Ydubbs has a good idea, its good on paper. The same could be said about my idea. But my idea is a lot more realistic. Telling a corp capable of holding a quarter of Molden Heath they may only have 1 planet and never leave it defeats the whole purpose of "Planetary Conquest".

Hello! Dumdum! Dust 514 is a sandbox game! Google it genius.

It is in the Eve environment which has High, Low and Null Sec. Carebaring takes place in High sec which are your pub matches and FW matches.

PC falls under the low sec category which means no carebaring i.e. no policing.

Your Battle Royale scheme is as flawed as your MHR. Whats to stop a A class corp with a single dude of 3.0 KD to get in ringers to defend a district?

Go back to drawing board son and rethink this. (My bad I shouldnt have used think and Arirana in the same sentence. My apologies for my gramatical errors)

Sureeeee. My ignorance is at the same level of the ignorance of people who think you cannot AFK anymore.

Your alliance is nothing but a bunch of rejects with PBS and glory holes so big you could shove the Washington Monument through it. The only the worthwhile in your alliance is eatsbabies cienfuegos and his bunch of pirates. I have mad respect for that guy. The rest of y'all are scrubs to the nth order.

Ydubbs idea is the best. Period! Your idea on paper is as good as the paper is use to wipe my royal behind when im done taking a dump.

when will people learn that the LEAST amount of work to get the expected result is what will happen, so crackpot off the wall ideas, while many are cool, simply aren't gonna happen before PS5 is released..


remove passive isk, implement a system to increase payouts for actually playing matches, with a mechanic that the match becomes void when less than 12ppl in there.

some huge isk bonus for capturing a district

have to look at it in this regard... attempting to separate areas and divide skill levels etc will only lead to sandbagging, alt corps and people finding ways to work around it.

a universal, as simple as possible fix is the solution,

that and someone remembering to pick up rampage from his ballet class at 3:30.

#suxtoB2Young2Drive#11thgraderepeater#BooMRoasTeD

Its as simple as PFC, just on a bigger scale. Waiting around for CCP to take care of this while it is well within our power, frankly, its embarrassing. I'm honestly ashamed to be a part of a playerbase that is willing to ***** and complain about glitching but do nothing about it. I may have glitched, but the difference between me and the rest of you, is that I'm willing to take action.

The same goes for the state of PC. We are in control, there is nothing stopping us besides district locking from keeping tiny corps and griefers w/ringers in line. In fact, I am looking forward to it. It will be fun.