DUST Search - **Fix for locking districts discussion**[As well as my ideas for resurrecting MH]

Arirana wrote:

Lets laugh at the irony of this situation right now and get it out of our systems. Now lets start:

District locking is bad. 1 alliance ruling MH with an iron fist is even worse. Both problems are mutual and exist due to eachother's existence. Some deep stuff, huh?

District locking should be the first to go. There are two ways to lock a district. So there need to be two fixes. These ideas are a rough draft and were made without total knowledge of how PC mechanics work. Open to discussion and revision. Note this is an attempt at making contesting district locking fair, not eliminating district locking altogether as a one time tactical choice mid war.

My idea for fixing district locking: Alt Corp Clone pack locking

Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an alt corp with a clone pack. In every instance of this, the alt corp attacking with a clone pack LOSES. This is the key to the fix. Following the successful defense of that district being locked, it should be immune to all clone pack attacks for the next 25 hours. (1 hour would not suffice as they could use an ally to move clones to lock, then lock up with a clone pack afterwards)

Add battle timers to the star map, all timers being visible for all corps for fair contesting district locks. On top of this, more info regarding who is attacking, how many clones they are sending (or not, debatable issue). Where they are attacking from, etc. (please suggest more possible info star map could reveal)

My idea for fixing district locking: Allies moving clones

Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an ally via moving clones from another district. In every instance of this, the district being locked is victorious, and the district that moves clones is is defeated (technically not, but the clones sent are, and it should reflect back on that district negatively). Districts that move clones and are then defeated should be deemed unable to send for the next 24 hours (this is a very bad solution as it would limit how often people can go on the offensive in MH, please pipe up with a better solution if you think of one Big smile

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Long Evity 1145	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:06:00 - [1] - Quote Arirana wrote: Lets laugh at the irony of this situation right now and get it out of our systems. Now lets start: District locking is bad. 1 alliance ruling MH with an iron fist is even worse. Both problems are mutual and exist due to eachother's existence. Some deep stuff, huh? District locking should be the first to go. There are two ways to lock a district. So there need to be two fixes. These ideas are a rough draft and were made without total knowledge of how PC mechanics work. Open to discussion and revision. Note this is an attempt at making contesting district locking fair, not eliminating district locking altogether as a one time tactical choice mid war. My idea for fixing district locking: Alt Corp Clone pack locking Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an alt corp with a clone pack. In every instance of this, the alt corp attacking with a clone pack LOSES. This is the key to the fix. Following the successful defense of that district being locked, it should be immune to all clone pack attacks for the next 25 hours. (1 hour would not suffice as they could use an ally to move clones to lock, then lock up with a clone pack afterwards) Add battle timers to the star map, all timers being visible for all corps for fair contesting district locks. On top of this, more info regarding who is attacking, how many clones they are sending (or not, debatable issue). Where they are attacking from, etc. (please suggest more possible info star map could reveal) My idea for fixing district locking: Allies moving clones Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an ally via moving clones from another district. In every instance of this, the district being locked is victorious, and the district that moves clones is is defeated (technically not, but the clones sent are, and it should reflect back on that district negatively). Districts that move clones and are then defeated should be deemed unable to send for the next 24 hours (this is a very bad solution as it would limit how often people can go on the offensive in MH, please pipe up with a better solution if you think of one ) You know what else is bad? Melee glitching. Didn't stop you from doing it until CCP fixed it themselves - so why is anyone going to listen to you now? I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1146	Posted - 2014.01.19 17:24:00 - [2] - Quote The Baby Shaker wrote: The problem with locked districts is you cant attack them and only have a very small window to launch an attack You're a damn genius. I see why DDB wins all there games themselves now. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1154	Posted - 2014.01.19 18:30:00 - [3] - Quote I am going to continue to troll the **** out of you Arirana - even though I like you now - forgive me for it, you know I can't let it go. But can you possibly repost this in the feedback section of the forums? It really is a good idea and well thought out. Hopefully the guys who hold a grudge against you, like myself, won't be there lurking. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1191	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:12:00 - [4] - Quote Arirana wrote: I'm kinda disappointed this immediately became a "Lol, fk this sh, ima troll" thread. Then again it is the war room and I'm me so... Still gonna keep updating the thread You expect feedback in the war room? You realize... there's a feedback section of the forums? I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1191	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:17:00 - [5] - Quote Arirana wrote: Long Evity wrote: Arirana wrote: I'm kinda disappointed this immediately became a "Lol, fk this sh, ima troll" thread. Then again it is the war room and I'm me so... Still gonna keep updating the thread You expect feedback in the war room? You realize... there's a feedback section of the forums? Actually considering we are the forum section directly related to PC, it made more sense to post it in here to get a good discussion going. A bunch of FW and pub players wouldn't give a crap about this issue. But you're right. I'll try my luck there, par the course. I see, your reasonings is logical, but your rep around here prevents that meaningful conversation. Everyone whose PC active has also had there face smacked in by you at one point. Lol I'll wish you luck getting proper feedback in the feedback section, though. The big core mechanic guys will tear your post to shreds for ya and critique / discuss it in the manner you're searching for. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1202	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:01:00 - [6] - Quote Arirana wrote: You should all feel ashamed. A glitcher cares more about the state of this game than you do. Oh, what's this? You care more about a game you helped ruin for many people? Someone should give you a flaming cookie. LOL I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1202	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:15:00 - [7] - Quote I'm really shocked how you go from glitching to win every game for 3 months - to wanting everyone else to stop doing it. What did it take for you to stop glitching in the past? Oh, right, CCP had to do it themselves. General Discussion is probably a better place for you - that's where the rest of the idiots go. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1203	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:33:00 - [8] - Quote Arirana wrote: Long Evity wrote: I'm really shocked how you go from glitching to win every game for 3 months - to wanting everyone else to stop doing it. What did it take for you to stop glitching in the past? Oh, right, CCP had to do it themselves. General Discussion is probably a better place for you - that's where the rest of the idiots go. I really don't care how it gets done, what is said about me, or how things were that complicates this. I made this post because I wanted to see it happen and no one else is willing to suggest it. I'm suggesting that my own alliance gives up land and goes out of their way to make this game more fun for new players. Its not glitching in general thats the problem, its the lack of anything going on besides petty fighting and farming. It was only a suggestion, so you don't really need to get pissed over it Pissed? Over the suggestion? Nah, I even suggested you put it where it belongs. What I find strange is this: Arirana wrote: So lets fix this sh** together. I'm sure you wanted melee glitch to get fixed too - and that's why you spammed it everywhere. So why not let ppl spam lock districts till CCP fixes that too? Isn't that your logic, as well? I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1204	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:43:00 - [9] - Quote Well, in that regard I couldn't agree more. But there won't be any PC action for indie corps if all the mid tier corps have to pick on them to get games themselves. If you hadn't noticed - no one is fighting each other - it's all AE and FA vs everyone else. The reason we're in this state is because of loss of interest, and it's because of bad game mechanics that allow people to play dirty. Does this ring any bells? But getting away from the cheap shot: There's no solution to the indie problem that's going to work. The only real solution is open up more systems other then MH so that indies have breathing room. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1204	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:50:00 - [10] - Quote Tiercide for PC? Good luck policing that. It's put a strain on corps just dealing with PFC. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.

Long Evity 1204	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:57:00 - [11] - Quote Arirana wrote: Long Evity wrote: Tiercide for PC? Good luck policing that. It's put a strain on corps just dealing with PFC. Better than whats happening now. Its a question of whether you want struggle or no competition at all. Also, corps mentioned above can more than keep the community in line. You know what some of us did when competition got stale? We left our corp and made a new one. Maybe you guys should consider it? :3 I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1204	Posted - 2014.01.20 03:09:00 - [12] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Fixing district locking only guarantees more and more players give up on PC altogether and the continuing flow of ISK to an ever shrinking portion of the player base. I wonder if anyone else realizes this. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Long Evity 1246	Posted - 2014.01.21 19:41:00 - [13] - Quote Let's stop with this pointless confrontation of Arirana's past vs his present, he's making an honest effort and it's for all to see. But it's unrealistic at best. If you could get the entire AE leadership here with FA and NF saying they'd support this, then we'd have something to continue your idea with. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.