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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
347
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:36:00 -
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Lets laugh at the irony of this situation right now and get it out of our systems. Now lets start:
District locking is bad. 1 alliance ruling MH with an iron fist is even worse. Both problems are mutual and exist due to eachother's existence. Some deep stuff, huh?
District locking should be the first to go. There are two ways to lock a district. So there need to be two fixes. These ideas are a rough draft and were made without total knowledge of how PC mechanics work. Open to discussion and revision. Note this is an attempt at making contesting district locking fair, not eliminating district locking altogether as a one time tactical choice mid war.
My idea for fixing district locking: Alt Corp Clone pack locking
Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an alt corp with a clone pack. In every instance of this, the alt corp attacking with a clone pack LOSES. This is the key to the fix. Following the successful defense of that district being locked, it should be immune to all clone pack attacks for the next 25 hours. (1 hour would not suffice as they could use an ally to move clones to lock, then lock up with a clone pack afterwards)
Add battle timers to the star map, all timers being visible for all corps for fair contesting district locks. On top of this, more info regarding who is attacking, how many clones they are sending (or not, debatable issue). Where they are attacking from, etc. (please suggest more possible info star map could reveal)
My idea for fixing district locking: Allies moving clones
[*]Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an ally via moving clones from another district. In every instance of this, the district being locked is victorious, and the district that moves clones is is defeated (technically not, but the clones sent are, and it should reflect back on that district negatively). Districts that move clones and are then defeated should be deemed unable to send for the next 24 hours (this is a very bad solution as it would limit how often people can go on the offensive in MH, please pipe up with a better solution if you think of one  )
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
347
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:36:00 -
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reserved
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Doc DDD
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
137
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Posted - 2014.01.19 11:48:00 -
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Just mash L3 R3 over and over.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
347
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:04:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote:Just mash L3 R3 over and over.
/thread
lol maybe I should have had someone more liked by the community post this for me so it gets taken seriously...
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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DJINN n Juice
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
23
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:18:00 -
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f*ck this care bare bull. this is molden heath. not nickelodeon. HTFU, we want comp, not farming sissies. only were allowed to farm in this piece. you gotta problem? well come attack us then. i dare you.
Krybrah is a faggot.
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
417
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:19:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Doc DDD wrote:Just mash L3 R3 over and over.
/thread lol maybe I should have had someone more liked by the community post this for me so it gets taken seriously...
Quiet glitcher
You have no opinion 
lol :P
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
347
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:20:00 -
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DJINN n Juice wrote:f*ck this care bare bull. this is molden heath. not nickelodeon. HTFU, we want comp, not farming sissies. only were allowed to farm in this piece. you gotta problem? well come attack us then. i dare you.
With starmap info and the removal of district locking farming will be fuucking hard to do without getting attacked a few times. Also, greedy bastard :p
You have to admit, the community is only gonna go downhill from here without something similar to this. Will update my plan for MH resurrection err'day
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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DJINN n Juice
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
23
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:26:00 -
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Arirana wrote:DJINN n Juice wrote:f*ck this care bare bull. this is molden heath. not nickelodeon. HTFU, we want comp, not farming sissies. only were allowed to farm in this piece. you gotta problem? well come attack us then. i dare you. With starmap info and the removal of district locking farming will be fuucking hard to do without getting attacked a few times. Also, greedy bastard :p You have to admit, the community is only gonna go downhill from here without something similar to this. Will update my plan for MH resurrection err'day
lol im all for attacks ari, i lovvve getting my ass kicked a few times. and greedy? psh, who isn't. lol MY DISTRICTS!! ALLL MINEE!!! :D
Krybrah is a faggot.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
347
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:31:00 -
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Soo I reported my OP for constructive ideas regarding district locking. Dunno if that was the right way to go about it, not like sh**s are given 
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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DJINN n Juice
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
23
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:33:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Soo I reported my OP for constructive ideas regarding district locking. Dunno if that was the right way to go about it, not like sh**s are given
inb4lock
Krybrah is a faggot.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2298
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:42:00 -
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District locking and increasing the number of corps in pc are not related. Those are two separate issues....i dont feel that a lower tiered corp doesnt want to pc because of district locking. They dont want to pc because they feel they may lose the one district overnight that they saved up a month to get.
Your idea sounds similar to the tiered system that was proposed way back. It's cool...but an issue that this has is that it may limit corps to fighting the same corps over and over. Stronger corps should just own one planet and merc out. More of MH would be available to lower tiered corps.....which would then allow for a more active merc game and more battles between those corps.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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DJINN n Juice
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
23
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Posted - 2014.01.19 12:45:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:District locking and increasing the number of corps in pc are not related. Those are two separate issues....i dont feel that a lower tiered corp doesnt want to pc because of district locking. They dont want to pc because they feel they may lose the one district overnight that they saved up a month to get.
Your idea sounds similar to the tiered system that was proposed way back. It's cool...but an issue that this has is that it may limit corps to fighting the same corps over and over. Stronger corps should just own one planet and merc out. More of MH would be available to lower tiered corps.....which would then allow for a more active merc game and more battles between those corps.
myb you should have proposed that when eon owned 70% of molden heath
Krybrah is a faggot.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
349
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:14:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:District locking and increasing the number of corps in pc are not related. Those are two separate issues....i dont feel that a lower tiered corp doesnt want to pc because of district locking. They dont want to pc because they feel they may lose the one district overnight that they saved up a month to get.
Your idea sounds similar to the tiered system that was proposed way back. It's cool...but an issue that this has is that it may limit corps to fighting the same corps over and over. Stronger corps should just own one planet and merc out. More of MH would be available to lower tiered corps.....which would then allow for a more active merc game and more battles between those corps.
MH Resurrection wouldn't work without district locking being fixed, because A team corps can't enforce the rules on someone locking their districts.
Never said mercing out wasn't an option, just that the tier method is alot more sandbox than only being allowed one planet. I don't want to stop all out wars, just seclude corps to prevent little guys being too afraid of the big guys. You can always do practice matches, if fighting the same corp gets boring. This is intended for growth in MH, not immediate excitement for everyone.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Roner General
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
418
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Posted - 2014.01.19 13:22:00 -
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Shotgun fag
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RevoItZ
The Rainbow Effect
321
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:54:00 -
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Hi Ari
Winner of EU Prime League Tournament
Winner of EU Squad Cup
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
351
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Posted - 2014.01.19 15:26:00 -
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o/
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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VIRDJINN Rampage
Diaper Rash.
2
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Posted - 2014.01.19 16:19:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Doc DDD wrote:Just mash L3 R3 over and over.
/thread lol maybe I should have had someone more liked by the community post this for me so it gets taken seriously...
Might have helped...but I doubt it
I failed English as a 2nd Language and wear a seatbelt on the shortbus.
don't laugh.. I only have 1 eye
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VIRDJINN Rampage
Diaper Rash.
2
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Posted - 2014.01.19 16:23:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:District locking and increasing the number of corps in pc are not related. Those are two separate issues....i dont feel that a lower tiered corp doesnt want to pc because of district locking. They dont want to pc because they feel they may lose the one district overnight that they saved up a month to get.
Your idea sounds similar to the tiered system that was proposed way back. It's cool...but an issue that this has is that it may limit corps to fighting the same corps over and over. Stronger corps should just own one planet and merc out. More of MH would be available to lower tiered corps.....which would then allow for a more active merc game and more battles between those corps.
U want a tier system it could be done easily, but requires programming...
EvE has lowsec/highsec/nullsec
same is present in dust and restrictions can be put in place for certain PC systems to be confined to 1, thus a tier system
#mindblown#toosimple#changesomethingsoicanberelevant
I failed English as a 2nd Language and wear a seatbelt on the shortbus.
don't laugh.. I only have 1 eye
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
226
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Posted - 2014.01.19 16:52:00 -
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It can be done but I don't know if Nyain San will be so willing to give up more than half of their districts. It will take a while to implement but expect problems along the way. I support this in hopes of a renewed MH just like when 1.0 released.
"Hiding will be seen as an act of aggression!" - Battlefield 3
Me: lol what?
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1380
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:02:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Doc DDD wrote:Just mash L3 R3 over and over.
/thread lol maybe I should have had someone more liked by the community post this for me so it gets taken seriously...
I know who started "your" exploit so don't even worry about it, hell more than just those 2 used it as well. But they epically failed with it. As for your idea people will say no cuz they don't want to lose districts to NS
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Long Evity
1145
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:06:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Lets laugh at the irony of this situation right now and get it out of our systems. Now lets start: District locking is bad. 1 alliance ruling MH with an iron fist is even worse. Both problems are mutual and exist due to eachother's existence. Some deep stuff, huh? District locking should be the first to go. There are two ways to lock a district. So there need to be two fixes. These ideas are a rough draft and were made without total knowledge of how PC mechanics work. Open to discussion and revision. Note this is an attempt at making contesting district locking fair, not eliminating district locking altogether as a one time tactical choice mid war. My idea for fixing district locking: Alt Corp Clone pack locking Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an alt corp with a clone pack. In every instance of this, the alt corp attacking with a clone pack LOSES. This is the key to the fix. Following the successful defense of that district being locked, it should be immune to all clone pack attacks for the next 25 hours. (1 hour would not suffice as they could use an ally to move clones to lock, then lock up with a clone pack afterwards)
Add battle timers to the star map, all timers being visible for all corps for fair contesting district locks. On top of this, more info regarding who is attacking, how many clones they are sending (or not, debatable issue). Where they are attacking from, etc. (please suggest more possible info star map could reveal)
My idea for fixing district locking: Allies moving clones Districts locked in this manner are attacked by an ally via moving clones from another district. In every instance of this, the district being locked is victorious, and the district that moves clones is is defeated (technically not, but the clones sent are, and it should reflect back on that district negatively). Districts that move clones and are then defeated should be deemed unable to send for the next 24 hours (this is a very bad solution as it would limit how often people can go on the offensive in MH, please pipe up with a better solution if you think of one )
You know what else is bad? Melee glitching. Didn't stop you from doing it until CCP fixed it themselves - so why is anyone going to listen to you now?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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The Baby Shaker
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
86
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:16:00 -
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They need to just let us attack a locked district but only by moving clones, no clone packs. I could care less about them getting the clone reinforcement, just as long as the attack will go through afterwards. This way they get their clones filled up then the attack goes through and every1 is happy. The problem with locked districts is you cant attack them and only have a very small window to launch an attack
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
8047
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:20:00 -
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Aside from the obvious 'ermahgerd glitcher cheater bashing on broken mechanics' these suggestions don't seem too bad.
It is, however, very open to abuse. Corp KDR a method of judging? No problem, get an alt corp with a bad KDR and field your top team to take B and C districts.
There are workarounds for that kind of thing I'm sure, but can you really cover everything?
Level 8 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Long Evity
1146
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:24:00 -
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The Baby Shaker wrote:The problem with locked districts is you cant attack them and only have a very small window to launch an attack
You're a damn genius. I see why DDB wins all there games themselves now.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Jigoku No ReizaSan
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:49:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:The Baby Shaker wrote:The problem with locked districts is you cant attack them and only have a very small window to launch an attack You're a damn genius. I see why DDB wins all there games themselves now.
Hey! Even though they're the butt of the Renegade alliance they still... I don't even know how to make fun of them, they're just sooooooo good. 
You, are a million years under-evolved, primitive monkey
Skype:JigokuNo.Reizasan
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Superhero Rawdon
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
151
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:15:00 -
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best proposals ive seen for fixing match-making (irrelevant here, i know, but hold on, my point is coming) and PC (THERE it is) are the ones that are tier-based. so +1 for that.
i personally am against mercing out, especially if MH gets active. even more so if it gets beehive-active.
and u should rethink those kds....most corps have logis that support and arent necessarily assault-logi, therefore their kd is lower which = corp kd being lower. or some corps are good bc of their tanking and tanking support, etc etc etc. see wut im saying?
but other than that, i like your proposal, regardless of your preceeding rep 
i bleed chocolate milk........and poop batarangs
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Kingseeker Kobra
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:24:00 -
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So the problem is locking districts, and one alliance ruling MH....both things renegade alliance does..
So the problem is you, OP? thanks, we already knew that.
Ariana glitches 31 free kills and loses anyways, LMFAO @ AE GARBAGE
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Superhero Rawdon
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
152
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:26:00 -
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Kingseeker Kobra wrote:So the problem is locking districts, and one alliance ruling MH....both things renegade alliance does..
So the problem is you, OP? thanks, we already knew that.
"......but on the other hand......."
sheesh. this community is fuc#ed
i bleed chocolate milk........and poop batarangs
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Long Evity
1154
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Posted - 2014.01.19 18:30:00 -
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I am going to continue to troll the **** out of you Arirana - even though I like you now - forgive me for it, you know I can't let it go.
But can you possibly repost this in the feedback section of the forums? It really is a good idea and well thought out. Hopefully the guys who hold a grudge against you, like myself, won't be there lurking. 
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1159
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Posted - 2014.01.19 19:17:00 -
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- This is way too complicated for anyone to police it, given how fail the community has been at policing PFC.
- KDR means nothing.
- If we find a good and balanced PC game, PFC becomes irrelevant. You shouldn't plan for it's continuity in a world where corps can fight corps on even tier.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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