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M McManus
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:25:00 -
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Oh noes 1 recharge delay.... Shields working as intended on a suit/race that's supposed to be shield dependant and everyone starts to cry about it..
FFS the armor fanboys need to give it a break, shields have been under powered for months and I really hope CCP mimics the 1 delay to Caldari Assault suits so people can actually realize there are flux grenades in this game.. And shields could maybe serve a purpose, that is, other then the contrary to armor fanboy beliefs "shields are only made for long ranges"....
Thank you CCP, hold to your guns on this..
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:38:00 -
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EDIT: Silly me, still says 1 sec. But I still think its ridiculous.
Gÿé Syeven 514
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
4527
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:39:00 -
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A one second delay on anything would be ridiculous, and I'm a shield tanker.
Knight Soiaire for SeePeeEm -1
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
7918
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:41:00 -
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1 second shield recharge would basically mean perma-recharge. With a single energizer you'd be able to take the regen of the sentinel up to over 50 HP/s, while having strong resistances and being able to stack extenders.
So yeah.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
5605
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:41:00 -
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This post is amusing for reasons.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
776
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:45:00 -
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It's probably a typo
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
985
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:45:00 -
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Its a 4 second recharge delay and a 1 second fully depleted delay
STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
10092
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:46:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:It's probably a typo
That has never once happened ever in the history of CCP releasing information early, ever.
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
4378
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:48:00 -
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Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1573
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:49:00 -
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Really what we're seeing is the advent of 'active' shield tanking where there is going to be more emphasis on taking cover for a couple seconds and getting rapid shield regeneration to offset a low base HP. If I were a Caldari Heavy I'd run a Regulator in my low, 1 shield extender, and then a mix of damage mods, energizers, and rechargers.
You have to remember that a flux grenade will royally **** these guys, even with splash damage reduction.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
1051
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:51:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
NO NO NO DONT NERF US!!!!
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
776
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:52:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
Where is your god now, Dust Fiend? Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it wont and now we have proof(ish)
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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:52:00 -
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Not that ridiculous, actually. It gives them a dead cat bounce if they get hit by a flux. You have to press them immediately if you flux them or they start regenerating.
The only thing I'm worried about is players throwing on modules to lower it even further. Some weapons have a low enough rate of fire that the suit could get a cycle between each hit. Maybe that's the idea, that you don't go up against a Caldari Sentinel with a shotgun, but it seems like there's a potential problem there.
The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
907
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:56:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Oh noes 1 recharge delay.... Shields working as intended on a suit/race that's supposed to be shield dependant and everyone starts to cry about it..
FFS the armor fanboys need to give it a break, shields have been under powered for months and I really hope CCP mimics the 1 delay to Caldari Assault suits so people can actually realize there are flux grenades in this game.. And shields could maybe serve a purpose, that is, other then the contrary to armor fanboy beliefs "shields are only made for long ranges"....
Thank you CCP, hold to your guns on this..
Ps: fix kb/m
I don't understand really. Armor Tankers use Anti-Shield weaponry...Plasma Rifles and Scrambler Rifles.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2009
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:57:00 -
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I'm really tired of this shields are unpowered crap. Armour plates are much better then shield extenders, but that doesn't means armour suits are better then shield based suits.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
970
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:09:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
Lol, I been waiting for that. Thanx. *Still laughing*
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pagl1u M
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:17:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
Thank! You! |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1573
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:17:00 -
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The 1 second depletion delay is obviously wrong, as depletion delay is always longer that natural recharge delay. I'd expect a value of 6 seconds.
Regardless, 4 seconds really is not THAT long, and the Caldari heavy needs that in order to sustain its HP. Keep in mind that even with the Sentinel bonus, the Caldari Heavy is going to take around 106% damage from laser weapons and even with 25% reduction to splash damage, a single flux grenade is going to wipe out its main line of defense. The CHeavy needs to be more focused on rapidly regenerating its shield HP and not so much on buffer like an armor heavy would.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1201
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:19:00 -
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Thoughts of every future caldari sentinel: hell yeah we're gonna be op as hell, wait what? IT WAS A TYPO!
On a side note, that sentinel probably would've brought 9 years of drake level opness
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4669
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:22:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Oh noes 1 recharge delay.... Shields working as intended on a suit/race that's supposed to be shield dependant and everyone starts to cry about it..
FFS the armor fanboys need to give it a break, shields have been under powered for months and I really hope CCP mimics the 1 delay to Caldari Assault suits so people can actually realize there are flux grenades in this game.. And shields could maybe serve a purpose, that is, other then the contrary to armor fanboy beliefs "shields are only made for long ranges"....
Thank you CCP, hold to your guns on this..
Ps: fix kb/m
Apparently someone forgot there are Locus Grenades in this game.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:27:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:M McManus wrote:Oh noes 1 recharge delay.... Shields working as intended on a suit/race that's supposed to be shield dependant and everyone starts to cry about it..
FFS the armor fanboys need to give it a break, shields have been under powered for months and I really hope CCP mimics the 1 delay to Caldari Assault suits so people can actually realize there are flux grenades in this game.. And shields could maybe serve a purpose, that is, other then the contrary to armor fanboy beliefs "shields are only made for long ranges"....
Thank you CCP, hold to your guns on this..
Ps: fix kb/m Apparently someone forgot there are Locus Grenades in this game.
The difference being that locus do significantly less damage than flux grenades do. They are also capable of outright killing someone, where flux is not.
Don't get me wrong, there are lots of explosive weapons that **** up armor, that's why the flux is so strong because it is a balancing mechanic.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:37:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:M McManus wrote:Oh noes 1 recharge delay.... Shields working as intended on a suit/race that's supposed to be shield dependant and everyone starts to cry about it..
FFS the armor fanboys need to give it a break, shields have been under powered for months and I really hope CCP mimics the 1 delay to Caldari Assault suits so people can actually realize there are flux grenades in this game.. And shields could maybe serve a purpose, that is, other then the contrary to armor fanboy beliefs "shields are only made for long ranges"....
Thank you CCP, hold to your guns on this..
Ps: fix kb/m Apparently someone forgot there are Locus Grenades in this game. The difference being that locus do significantly less damage than flux grenades do. They are also capable of outright killing someone, where flux is not. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of explosive weapons that **** up armor, that's why the flux is so strong because it is a balancing mechanic.
I've been pro shields for awhile and the locus grenade argument is kinda ridiculous if Locus grenades ONLY took Armor and left armor tankers with their dismal shields, then sure it makes sense, but Locus Grenades do a **** ton of damage to both...
ESpecially if shields are already gone via an insta melt flux nade... So throw an armor style flux nade in there (napalm nade?) and let me shoot your cloth like shields, this is what us shield tankers feel like when we aren't omni tanking.. I agree with OP maybe not 1sec but depleted delay needsto be low because of first line of defense and flux nades... |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1575
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:40:00 -
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Locus obviously hurt shields but at -20% damage.
Now I do know that explosives were registering too much damage before, I'm not sure if that is still an issue or if it has been fixed, so that could be part of the issue you're experiencing.
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Solitar Greywatch
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:51:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
Logibro... Logibro... (tears) Shield tankers have been ignored. Now my dreams of wielding a Caldari Sentinel suit that has an overpowered recharge delay will be gone. (Puts on tinfoil hat) I just know that the Gallente heathens were behind this.  |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:MassiveNine wrote:It's probably a typo That has never once happened ever in the history of CCP releasing information early, ever.
MassiveNine wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon. Where is your god now, Dust Fiend? Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it wont and now we have proof(ish)
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axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:32:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon.
got damn it gotdamnit got damn it!
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:34:00 -
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typo...lol, nice troll ccp. hill-lary-us |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3686
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:37:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:A one second delay on anything would be ridiculous, and I'm a shield tanker.
I agree.
Andi could see it on SCOUTS, 1 or 2 seconds as depleted shield recharge.
But on a heavy?
With 4 HIGH slots?
This smells like 2 Cx Shield Extenders and 2 Rechargers/Energizers to kick the shield regen per second to 40-50.
A repair module.
Light weapon of choosing
New metagame.
I've called it!
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
819
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:30:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon. NO NO NO DONT NERF US!!!!
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
777
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Posted - 2014.01.17 20:31:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:MassiveNine wrote:It's probably a typo That has never once happened ever in the history of CCP releasing information early, ever. MassiveNine wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Sorry guys, but I do think it's a typo. We'll try to get the actual number for you guys soon. Where is your god now, Dust Fiend? Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it wont and now we have proof(ish) ............................................________........................ ....................................,.-GÇÿGÇ¥...................``~.,.................. .............................,.-GÇ¥...................................GÇ£-.,............ .........................,/...............................................GÇ¥:,........ .....................,?......................................................\,..... .................../...........................................................,}.... ................./......................................................,:`^`..}.... .............../...................................................,:GÇ¥........./..... ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../..... ............./__.(.....GÇ£~-,_..............................,:`........../........ .........../(_....GÇ¥~,_........GÇ£~,_....................,:`........_/........... ..........{.._$;_......GÇ¥=,_.......GÇ£-,_.......,.-~-,},.~GÇ¥;/....}........... ...........((.....*~_.......GÇ¥=-._......GÇ£;,,./`..../GÇ¥............../............ ...,,,___.\`~,......GÇ£~.,....................`.....}............../............. ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-GÇ¥............... ............/.`~,......`-...............................\....../\................... .............\`~.*-,.....................................|,./.....\,__........... ,,_..........}.>-._\...................................|..............`=~-,.... .....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\........................ ...................`=~-,,.\,...............................\....................... ................................`:,,...........................`\..............__.. .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==``....... ........................................_\..........._,-%.......`\............... ...................................,<`.._|_,-&``................`\..............
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