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Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4435	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:13:00 - [31] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Its not that hard to damp an assault or logi suit and keep your speed. I can probably make a fit right now consisting of a Med Frame with Nova Knives that can achieve a similar performance to the Scout mk.0. Our bonus isn't as useful as you make it out to be. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4435	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:33:00 - [32] - Quote Logistics Mk.0 Highs 2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think) 1x Complex Shield Ext. 1x Enhanced Shield Ext. (408 EHP) Lows 2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s) 2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners) Weapon Ishukone Nova Knives Equipment ADV Active Scanner REs R-9 Uplinks (Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one) Nade Flux Nade You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique. Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2563	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:37:00 - [33] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Logistics Mk.0 Highs 2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think) 1x Complex Shield Ext. 1x Enhanced Shield Ext. (408 EHP) Lows 2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s) 2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners) Weapon Ishukone Nova Knives Equipment ADV Active Scanner REs R-9 Uplinks (Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one) Nade Flux Nade You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique. Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage Cool. Now, how cheaply can you make a Minmatar Scout fit that handles all of that except for 3 equipment plus can still carry a light weapon? I've said it before but the real beauty of this game is being able make suits do things they were never intended to do. You can make this fit that is fast, more durable than a scout and carries more equipment. The downside is that its expensive and doesn't have a second weapon. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 866	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:40:00 - [34] - Quote You could also blame the lack of scout-focused gear. We only have cloaks, shotguns, and nova knives. Sniper Rifle doesn't count because it's better off in other suits right now. They have to focus around that for now. Maybe in the future we'll get Scan Jammers, Trackers, decoy equipment, Jetpacks, and more scout oriented weapons(silenced pistols, miasma(smoke) grenades, Electronic Attack grenades, Anti-Personnel mines, etc). "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 268	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:46:00 - [35] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Logistics Mk.0 Highs 2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think) 1x Complex Shield Ext. 1x Enhanced Shield Ext. (408 EHP) Lows 2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s) 2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners) Weapon Ishukone Nova Knives Equipment ADV Active Scanner REs R-9 Uplinks (Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one) Nade Flux Nade You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique. Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage You want a cookie? I can achieve 1428 damage from a charge without any damage mods. I already know logis are the best suit at everything
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4436	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:47:00 - [36] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Logistics Mk.0 Highs 2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think) 1x Complex Shield Ext. 1x Enhanced Shield Ext. (408 EHP) Lows 2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s) 2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners) Weapon Ishukone Nova Knives Equipment ADV Active Scanner REs R-9 Uplinks (Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one) Nade Flux Nade You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique. Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage You want a cookie? I can achieve 1428 damage from a charge without any damage mods. I already know logis are the best suit at everything I just proved how useless our bonus truly is when compared to a Logi, yes, I'll take that cookie. Nom nom nom :3 Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 268	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:51:00 - [37] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Logistics Mk.0 Highs 2x Complex Sidearm Damage Mods (18.7% with Proficiency its 33.7% I think) 1x Complex Shield Ext. 1x Enhanced Shield Ext. (408 EHP) Lows 2x Complex Kinetic Catz (Sprint of 9.18m/s) 2x Complex Profile Dampeners (Enough to dodge Proto Scanners) Weapon Ishukone Nova Knives Equipment ADV Active Scanner REs R-9 Uplinks (Three Equips Compared to a Scout's one) Nade Flux Nade You're kidding yourself if you think this bonus makes Minmatar Scouts in anyway unique. Damage of Ishukone Knives, quick swipe = 534.8 Damage Full Charge = 1069.6 Damage You want a cookie? I can achieve 1428 damage from a charge without any damage mods. I already know logis are the best suit at everything I just proved how useless our bonus truly is when compared to a Logi, yes, I'll take that cookie. Nom nom nom :3 no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4437	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:57:00 - [38] - Quote mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive gamemodes like PC) Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2790	Posted - 2014.01.13 18:58:00 - [39] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive gamemodes like PC) Until open market hits and that 250k suit is more like 750k. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2565	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:00:00 - [40] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive game modes like PC) You think a knife only fit is competitive in any mode? // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana

Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4438	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:00:00 - [41] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive gamemodes like PC) Until open market hits and that 250k suit is more like 750k. And how did you come across this number? Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4438	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:04:00 - [42] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive game modes like PC) You think a knife only fit is competitive in any mode? Thats what the Minmatar Scout will be post Scout changes though. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4439	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:20:00 - [43] - Quote Eh, what do I care anyway, I'm going Caldari Scout anyway, at least I wont be a part of this sinking ship. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2568	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:21:00 - [44] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive game modes like PC) You think a knife only fit is competitive in any mode? Thats what the Minmatar Scout will be post Scout changes though. Remnant said that the Minmatar will most likely keep its current slot arrangement. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 269	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:22:00 - [45] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive game modes like PC) You think a knife only fit is competitive in any mode? Thats what the Minmatar Scout will be post Scout changes though. you must've overlooked the part where they said minny will be keeping its sidearm and will be the combat scout
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4439	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:24:00 - [46] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Remnant said that the Minmatar will most likely keep its current slot arrangement. So I've heard. Which means the Minmatar Scout wont get a true role. If they really want to Minmatar to remain relevant with its current bonus the layout for Primary / Sidearm / Equipment needs to be 1 / 1 / 2. So basically make the Minmatar the Amarr Logi of the Scout class. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1628	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:38:00 - [47] - Quote This is what it should be: 5%/lvl DMG bonus to knives 5%/lvl bonus to biotics effectiveness The melee bonus is garbage. WHO EQUIPS KNiVES AND then melees!? Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2794	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:41:00 - [48] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: This is what it should be: 5%/lvl DMG bonus to knives 5%/lvl bonus to biotics effectiveness The melee bonus is garbage. WHO EQUIPS KNiVES AND then melees!? Me when my R1 bugs out and it melees instead of knifes... But really though I think they're trying to make it so if you equip a different side arm meleeing would still be useful but... lets be honest are you going to punch someone if you have a scrambler pistol instead of a knife? I know I won't. Unless that melee is going to buffed so I can one hit kill MLT, STD, and some ADV suits that melee bonus is absolutely worthless in a realistic combat scenario. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 270	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:46:00 - [49] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: This is what it should be: 5%/lvl DMG bonus to knives 5%/lvl bonus to biotics effectiveness The melee bonus is garbage. WHO EQUIPS KNiVES AND then melees!? Me when my R1 bugs out and it melees instead of knifes... But really though I think they're trying to make it so if you equip a different side arm meleeing would still be useful but... lets be honest are you going to punch someone if you have a scrambler pistol instead of a knife? I know I won't. Unless that melee is going to buffed so I can one hit kill MLT, STD, and some ADV suits that melee bonus is absolutely worthless in a realistic combat scenario. I use the melee as a finisher for when the knives don't kill, I believe you do the same moody
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 786	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:46:00 - [50] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: relax and put away your crystal ball. Please stop saying this, last time CCP said this the proposed changes that everyone was complaining about actually made their way into the update. my point is that the changes involve CCP chaning the number of slots, DB values and potentially alot of other numbers for scouts, we have literally no idea what they will look like other then cloaks and some varients may have no sidearm or have an extra equipment slot. we dont even know what verients it applys to and wich ones it doesnt. theres so much that we DONT know that it doesnt really matter what we do know

Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4440	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:47:00 - [51] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: This is what it should be: 5%/lvl DMG bonus to knives 5%/lvl bonus to biotics effectiveness The melee bonus is garbage. WHO EQUIPS KNiVES AND then melees!? Me when my R1 bugs out and it melees instead of knifes... But really though I think they're trying to make it so if you equip a different side arm meleeing would still be useful but... lets be honest are you going to punch someone if you have a scrambler pistol instead of a knife? I know I won't. Unless that melee is going to buffed so I can one hit kill MLT, STD, and some ADV suits that melee bonus is absolutely worthless in a realistic combat scenario. They said it'll most likely be raised to 120, which is 150 at lvl 5. Its still going to be useless. Needs to be atleast 200 when added all up, but even then it still sucks. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 835	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:48:00 - [52] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I definitely agree that scouts should not be combat oriented at all, but purely stealth and intel oriented. In exchange, CCP can then release a new specialization from the light frame called "Assassin" which is a light frame more focused purely on combat. If scouts shouldn't be combat oriented then logi's should only have a sidearm Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4441	Posted - 2014.01.13 19:54:00 - [53] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I definitely agree that scouts should not be combat oriented at all, but purely stealth and intel oriented. In exchange, CCP can then release a new specialization from the light frame called "Assassin" which is a light frame more focused purely on combat. If scouts shouldn't be combat oriented then logi's should only have a sidearm Same could be said for Scouts, Logis are going to become true support classes, they'll get bonuses to support equipment, and their passive repping is finally being removed. On top of that, CCP will hopefully do the smart thing of making Logi Slot layout mirror that of the Assault class'. Its been said before, Scouts should be the anti-logi, using EWAR to their advantage to disrupt the advance of the enemy team, using items like Webifiers, Cloaks, and REs. If I wanted a class centred around frontline combat, I would've went for the Assault Suit, which is why I think Min Scouts becoming a 'Combat Scout' is just absolutely ridiculous. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 836	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:07:00 - [54] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I definitely agree that scouts should not be combat oriented at all, but purely stealth and intel oriented. In exchange, CCP can then release a new specialization from the light frame called "Assassin" which is a light frame more focused purely on combat. If scouts shouldn't be combat oriented then logi's should only have a sidearm Same could be said for Scouts, Logis are going to become true support classes, they'll get bonuses to support equipment, and their passive repping is finally being removed. On top of that, CCP will hopefully do the smart thing of making Logi Slot layout mirror that of the Assault class'. Its been said before, Scouts should be the anti-logi, using EWAR to their advantage to disrupt the advance of the enemy team, using items like Webifiers, Cloaks, and REs. If I wanted a class centred around frontline combat, I would've went for the Assault Suit, which is why I think Min Scouts becoming a 'Combat Scout' is just absolutely ridiculous. Well I think scouts becoming ** is rediculous. Do you remember chromozone scouts? Those where good, not the ** you and a few others seem to want to make scouts Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4443	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:10:00 - [55] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Well I think scouts becoming ** is rediculous. Do you remember chromozone scouts? Those where good, not the ** you and a few others seem to want to make scouts Chromosone Scouts were good, but they were not what Scouts are suppoused to be. If CCP give Scouts a huge boost to EWAR technology when it arrives, they can become some of the more useful classes in the game. Could you imagine a Scout that could use Jammers to scramble the Radars of enemies, a Scout that can near insta-hack objectives, a Scout that can cause enemies within a certain radius to slow down temporarily, and maybe even a Scout that can cause the weapons of enemies to jam. I want Scouts to be Scouts, not low HP version of an assault suit. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 837	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:13:00 - [56] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Well I think scouts becoming ** is rediculous. Do you remember chromozone scouts? Those where good, not the you and a few others seem to want to make scouts Chromosone Scouts were good, but they were not what Scouts are suppoused to be. If CCP give Scouts a huge boost to EWAR technology when it arrives, they can become some of the more useful classes in the game. Could you imagine a Scout that could use Jammers to scramble the Radars of enemies, a Scout that can near insta-hack objectives, a Scout that can cause enemies within a certain radius to slow down temporarily, and maybe even a Scout that can cause the weapons of enemies to jam. I want Scouts to be Scouts, not low HP version of an assault suit. I couldn't give a ** about EWAR garbage. Scouts should be skirmishers not little bitches like it seems CCP wants them to be Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F 4443	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:15:00 - [57] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: I couldn't give a ** about EWAR garbage. Scouts should be skirmishers not little bitches like it seems CCP wants them to be If you dont give a ** about EWAR than I dont see a reason with speaking to you any further. You clearly dont understand how useful and rewarding EWAR will be on the battlefield. Provider of Vanilla Scented Soap Bars EVE - White Sign Soapstone (Trial for newbs)
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 837	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:18:00 - [58] - Quote This should be how it works Assault > heavy > scout > logi > commando > assault Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 838	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:19:00 - [59] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: I couldn't give a ** about EWAR garbage. Scouts should be skirmishers not little bitches like it seems CCP wants them to be If you dont give a ** about EWAR than I dont see a reason with speaking to you any further. You clearly dont understand how useful and rewarding EWAR will be on the battlefield. You clearly don't understand the proper pecking order of which suit should trump the other Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2803	Posted - 2014.01.13 20:19:00 - [60] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: mr musturd wrote: no my proto fit has more ehp a primary weapon and can still achieve higher knife damage for under 100k You're Proto fit doesn't have three Equipment. What is your fit anyway? I should be able to stitch together an Assault suit with a Primary + Knife Later(TM) But for now, I'm off to enjoy my cookies. (Also, suit cost shouldn't matter in competitive gamemodes like PC) Until open market hits and that 250k suit is more like 750k. And how did you come across this number? Of course its a made up number but sure, cost may not be important now but eventually the cost of wars/fights will be important. The cost of your fitting will be important. There's a reason why people in eve don't fly the most expensive ships around all the time and use them for everything all willy nilly. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.



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